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Let the QB controversy begin!!!!

Bob Grotz says Feeley creates a controversy

But of course, And Reid says there is no controversy.

After the game, when Andy Reid was asked if McNabb is still his starter, he said: "Yes."

Asked if he knew Feeley had this kind of game in him, Reid said: "We know he does. We know what kind of player he is. He's confident. We're confident in him. He's been through this before and he's won some games for us."

That said, the Philly media seems to have thrown their support behind AJ...

Mike Sielski - Burlco Times | Time to stick with Feeley

That Feeley and the Eagles didn't beat the Patriots, though, doesn't mean they can't beat the Seahawks next week. If Feeley plays against Seattle like he did against New England, the Eagles probably will win. The Seahawks, after all, are a lesser opponent than the 11-0 Patriots. Every team in the league is. Feeley had to be darned near perfect to beat the Patriots, and he wasn't, but if he's good enough to win next Sunday, then it becomes fair to wonder if and when McNabb might see the field again. By drafting Kevin Kolb, the Eagles already have signaled they're prepared to move on without McNabb, and if the injuries keep him out of the lineup, the transition from him to Kolb -- with Feeley as the bridge -- would be made much easier.

"I'm not out for the season this year," McNabb said last week. "It's a sprain that we can treat and hopefully get back out there again. They're doing great things. You just want to get out there and compete and hopefully try to do whatever it takes to win."

For the first time since McNabb arrived in Philadelphia in 1999, "whatever it takes" signifies something different for the Eagles. Based on that near-miracle last night, it means A.J. Feeley. It means someone at quarterback other than Donovan McNabb. Now, and maybe forever.

John Smallwood | Daily News In this corner, A.J.'s the way

There shouldn't even be a debate. Andy Reid needs to reconsider his proclamation immediately after the Eagles lost to the New England Patriots, 31-28, that Donovan McNabb will be back at quarterback if he's healthy enough on Sunday against the Seattle Seahawks.

That's not a smart move, not with what is at stake, not after the way A.J. Feeley played against the Patriots; the way he played a week earlier against the Miami Dolphins.

McNabb has had 10 games to figure things out, knock off the rust, recover from injury, regain his form. For whatever reason, it hasn't happened. The Eagles were lucky to be 5-5 in those starts.

Finally, I thought the Patriots were rather conciliatory after the game. For all the stories about how arrogant they are, I found them to be pretty nice and complimentary. I think it speaks to the fact that Andy Reid is so well respected around the league.

"I wish we had played a little better, but I give those guys a lot of credit," said Brady.

"They gave us some problems," Patriots coach Bill Belichick said of the Eagles' defense. "They did some things we didn't expect.''

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Mcnabb vs. AJ
It should be plain and simple. Whoever is playing better should be starting. Right now, that is AJ Feeley. It would be funny if we could trade Mcnabb to Chicago for... Devin Hester. I swear that man is the only reason why Chicago's winning any games. Andy Reid got it right: don't punt or kick anywhere near him. And yet people are stupid enough to do it.

by dawkfan20 on Nov 26, 2007 8:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

mcnabb for hester eh
please tell me your joking... not that hester isnt ridiculous ... why are we doubting #5 when he fails ? because we are failing to realize the team around isnt playing any better ... but thats what we pay top dollar for right ! avg players ... big roster cuts this off season if im in charge ... rebuild the o-line ... our defense is fine ... get rid of go cong and bringback trotter ... bahhhh angry rambling lol

by NorthPhillyKid on Nov 26, 2007 9:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You know...
I was joking, but now that I think about it, I wouldn't be opposed to such a trade. Someone said we'd definitely get a first round pick for Mcnabb. What would you rather have, a first round pick or the guy who will soon become the greatest return specialist ever? At first, it seems like a ridiculous trade but I'd still take it! But I doubt that the Chicago fans would be willing to part with Hester.

by dawkfan20 on Nov 27, 2007 12:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wow
North Philly Kidd, I couldnt disagree with you any more lol!!!

a) the oline is fine
b) trotter is compltely done and washed up
c) mcnabb CLEARLY isnt failing because the rest of the team is failing. It's pretty evident through last year and this year it's the other way around.

by JoeD on Nov 26, 2007 10:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

McNabb gets one final chance
Look, this is Andy Reid we're talking about, we know how he works, and he isn't going to change now.

If #5 can get them to the playoffs, perhaps a reprieve and they get a do over next year.  (I mean, we all know even if they sneak in at 9-7 they aren't going more than a game or two in, right?)

If he does not get them to a wild card, especially if he doesn't play well, I'm afraid that his career in Philly is done.

(I say I'm afraid, because unlike a lot of people, I'm a Donovan McNabb fan, still.  It's all about expectations, of course: if McNabb had played the very good game that Feeley played and made the several key mistakes that Feeley did -- the two INTs as well as the underthrown ball to Curtis when #80 had the Pats backup CB beaten by several steps that would have put the Iggles up 35-24 -- everyone would be focusing on how he couldn't get the job done when it counted.  Nothing wrong with expectations: McNabb is supposed to play better than he has been this year, but let's be realistic, A. J. Feeley isn't the second coming, haven't we been through this before?  Didn't he get a chance to start in Miami and it didn't work out real well?  Not to say that he isn't potentially a starting QB in the NFL, but if McNabb's time in Philly is almost done, then the future isn't Feeley, it is, of course, Kevin Kolb.)

(Ends much longer comment then originally intended.)

by sdf on Nov 26, 2007 10:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'll have to go with Feely
As much as I like Donovan Mcnabb I think A.J. Feely is playing better and the Eagles neeed to goe with the Quaterback who gives them the best chance to win and that seems to be Feely
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by bowst on Nov 26, 2007 11:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think that Donovan is
suffocating the team.  I don't really have anything totally against him, but my friend from boston said he thought donovan was like drew bledsoe, had some quality time but was bringing down an otherwise talented team.

Now while I don't think bledsoe and mcnabb should ever be mentioned even in the same sentence, I do think my friend has a point.  I think this team is talented, and it takes someone like garcia or feeley to truly realize it.  I just think this is the second time that the team rallies behind a quarterback other than mcnabb.  It's telling me something.

In all honesty, I say we start mcnabb the rest of this year and then see if he fully heals next year.  If he still isn't playing well, get rid of him.

Although if we traded him now we could probably get more for him, and chicago would definitely give us a first round pick for him...

by MaxB on Nov 27, 2007 12:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Feely showed fire and urgency that McNabb hasn't
Energy and enthusiasm radiated from Feely last night. He may not have the arm strength that McNabb but he was accurate, got rid of the ball quickly and didn't needlessly take sacks. Feely's three touchdown passes were all sensational throws. And I think Feely could be better moving in the pocket. McNabb has looked slugish in the pocket this year.

by master94 on Nov 27, 2007 1:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

McNabb is the Starter
Feeley played pretty well for most of the game, but he made critical mistakes.

His first pass in a pick six, which is inexcusable. Then on the drive to possibly win the game, he has a death pick.

If McNabb had had the same game, people would have said he choked and is a bum.

McNabb gets such unfair criticism for stupid things. People ripped him for his passes being a little off in the Redskins game, where he had 4 TDs, and 0 INTs.

Now Feeley is "playing great", even though he lost the game with his 2 stupid INTs.

The guy is a solid backup, and that is all. McNabb when healthy is one of the best.

As soon as McNabb's ankle is feeling better, he is the starter.

by Inside the Iggles on Nov 27, 2007 6:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

How many times does A.J. need to prove himself?
A.J. Feeley is one of those players that when given the chance (and the right system) has shown he has the talent to start and be successful in this league.  

There are several phenominal QBs playing backup right now that got picked in later rounds because they didn't have the buzz and the promotional machine of their schools behind them.

Most people I've heard on Philly sports radio comment that A.J. is ready to fill in or merely "bridge the gap" until Kolb can take over (which most people assume is next season)

I totally disagree...what do we really know about Kolb?  Nothing...he seemed to do well in pre-season...but that is preseason.  I don't think anyone can truely say that they are sure and excited that Kolb is the future.

I think that the Eagles have a QB RIGHT NOW which can give them several years of success. Sports commentators and analysts refuse to entertain arguments that A.J. could be a better QB in this system than McNabb.

Top 10 observations (Think about each of these for a minute), why AJ is a long term solution:

A.J. Feeley came off the bench and went toe-to-toe with the best QB ever.  For much of the game, Feeley had a BETTER RATING than Brady (and did not have the superstar receivers Brady does).

A.J. had incredible accuracy.  This is not a fluke.  He came in in 2002 and went 4-1.  Miami was the wrong situation for a QB like Feeley, but Philly seems to compliment him.

A.J. is better suited to the system.  He gets rid of the ball quickly, a key to the West Coast Offense.  

McNabb has never been wired to get rid of the ball quickly, but used to be able to make plays with his feet.  Remember the comments "the way to beat Donovan is to keep him in the pocket" in 2000-2002.  His injuries stole his mobility, his ability to "buy time".  

After 2002, McNabb made up for his noticable loss of mobility with the addition of T.O.  He couldn't "buy time" with his feet, but he could throw less than perfect passes to a great receiver and not have to spend time taking two or three looks down field.

The Eagles will never have great pass protection under this system.  It looked like A.J. had great protection against the Pats (and the line did have a better than average performance), but AJ held the ball for far less time than McNabb does.  Do you change the whole system, or change one player?

The McNabb supporters say that if we gave him the right weapons, he can be great again.  AJ went up against the best team in NFL history with the same weapons McNabb struggled with, and nearly made history...the players respond better to his approach.  Is a player really better if you have to surround him with great players to have him play to his old form?

I don't think McNabb is washed up, I just think his game has changed and no longer works with the system. He may thrive somewhere else, but not here.

Andy Reid needs to get over his ego because he brought McNabb to Philadelphia and go with a less conservative choice.  Most people in New England never thought a sixth round pick could be a starter, but Bill Belichick went with the un-orthodox choice when Drew Bledsoe was struggling...now Tom Brady is possibly the best QB in the history of the NFL...

AJ responds well to pressure, McNabb struggles with it.  Look at McNabb's stats in the three NFC championship games and the Super Bowl...now compare those stats with his regular season play. He plays far worse in the "big games", when he's not throwing up in the huddle.  AJ thrives on pressure and plays better football in those high-pressure games.

There are many more reasons...but think about these...why could Feeley not the starter?
I have not heard a single reason WHY McNabb is a better QB.  Howard Eskin LOVES to say McNabb is a better QB, but can give no reason as to why...

Feeley should never have thrown that pass on 2nd and 4, but considering three interceptions with that many passing plays is an accomplishment.  

That play have been a run to WestBrook...bad (horrible) play call on Reid's part...Feeley was put in a bad spot on that one, but should have thrown it away.

In spite of the loss, he made this team play several levels above where they have been all season.

by Czyzyk on Nov 27, 2007 10:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

AJ as a long term solution
The problem is that with Kevin Kolb sitting there I can't see AJ ever getting shot to be anything close to a permanent replacement.

by JasonB on Nov 27, 2007 11:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope they go with Feeley
I don't have the same recollection of 2002 as many others.  I remember a quarterback who was given a very limited playbook and a very good team that played inspired football to produce four wins in five games.

Sunday night was different.  They asked Feeley to make some plays and he performed very well.  He had a quick release and was very accurate in his throws.  The antithesis of McNabb this season.

I am also growing convinced that the team plays better with someone other than McNabb as the quarterback.  It's too bad, because, based on what I see in the media, I really like how McNabb handles his business.

I also continue to believe that McNabb has both the physical skills (although he won't be back to his old self I think he'll get more healthy than he has been this season) and the decision making ability to be very successful in this league.

Reid has the perfect opportunity here to go with Feeley under the premise that McNabb is not 100% healthy.  If Feeley continues to perform (not a given in my mind), he can say that he doesn't want to go away from the hot hand.  Unfortunately, that will spell the end of McNabb's days in Philadelphia.

So, here's a reluctant vote to go with an inferior quarterback and potentially end the Philadelphia career of one of the all-time great Eagles.

P.S.  Despite giving up a lot of yards and a lot of points, the defense looked great on Sunday - aggressive and vicious.  It was more than the scheme, they came with a different attitude.

by dave in san mateo on Nov 27, 2007 1:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So...
Feeley cost them the game with critical INTs to start and end the game, and everyone wants him over DMac?  I guess I just don't get it.

by brooksy on Nov 27, 2007 1:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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