Vegas Gives The Eagles Better Odds At 2013 Title Than Giants
by JasonB on Feb 6, 2012 4:47 PM EST
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PrintThere are times that Vegas odds make sense to me and times they don't... This is one where they don't. Here are MGM Grand's odds for the winner of Super Bowl 2013.
New England Patriots 5-1 Green Bay Packers 11-2 Pittsburgh Steelers 6-1 Philadelphia Eagles 6-1 New York Giants 8-1 New Orleans Saints 10-1 San Francisco 49ers 10-1 San Diego Chargers 12-1 Houston Texans 12-1
I don't really know what the Eagles did to make themselves essentially the third favorite to win it all next season... And I'm sure Giants fans will be miffed at seeing their team fifth after just winning it all. Although I can actually see why you might not favor New York to repeat. They would certainly be my favorite to win it all if they get in the playoffs... but that's certainly no guarantee with that team. They're kind of odd like that. They'll play down to their competition and lose winnable games. So really, 9-7 and no playoffs is just as likely as another title for me.
But what is really most unbelievable is seeing the Patriots as the favorites. Nothing about that team tells me that they should be considered the favorites to win it all. I'd favor teams like Houston, New Orleans, Green Bay & Pittsburgh over them without question.
The Jaguars are the longest odds at 150-1 and the Redskins are the second longest at 125-1.
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For what it's worth...
The Eagles went to the NFC championship the year after the Giants won the Super Bowl last time.
Seriously, I think they are looking at the last several years worth of games to make those odds. They aren’t just looking at one game or even the last 3 games. Only a betting fool looks at a sample size of 3 games to make a bet. Not to mention the Giants clearly were outplayed by the 49ers and possibly outplayed by the Pats (Giants had great fumble luck.)
The Patriots, Packers, Steelers, and Eagles have an excellent track record if you look at the last several years of data. Those teams are going to be in the playoffs and competitive for a Super Bowl more often then not so it should be no surprise the smart money would be going there.
Your first point I noticed too
Trevor Laws: "Thank Giants for kicking to (Desean)."
Mike Vick: "Why would they kick to Desean?"
Matt Dodge: "Snap too high!"
NJ Eagle: "Fly Eagles Fly!!!"
Day Dream Team!!!
Trevor Laws: "Thank Giants for kicking to (Desean)."
Mike Vick: "Why would they kick to Desean?"
Matt Dodge: "Snap too high!"
NJ Eagle: "Fly Eagles Fly!!!"
If I were a betting man...
…I would ask myself this…is this Eagles team, which is going to go 7-9 next season, likely to make the playoffs much less the Super Bowl.
The answer, of course, is no
The bad news? Castillo's back.
The good news? With the 7-9 season coming up and all the Eagles games being played at 1:00 (and in the bag for the opponent by 2:30 at the latest), we'll all have plenty of time to rake the leaves and whack off. Stock up on your Astro Glide, ladies!
Always can count on you EB...
Trevor Laws: "Thank Giants for kicking to (Desean)."
Mike Vick: "Why would they kick to Desean?"
Matt Dodge: "Snap too high!"
NJ Eagle: "Fly Eagles Fly!!!"
I would bet on 10-6 easy. I’d put the over/under of the Eagles win total next season at 10.5
So its easy to see why they are favored over the Giants. The Giants are inconsistent and lucky, and that can lead to good or bad results. That’s not a good bet to make. The Eagles have been consistently good, maybe not great, but good. And coupled with the last view playoff runs, being good and getting into the playoffs can mean a Super Bowl win.
2011 New York Giants- Worst Super Bowl Champs Ever
10.5? Your nuts. Everybody would bet the ‘under’ on that and the money line would quickly move. Eagles have won more than 10 games ONCE since ‘04 (’09 when they went 11-5).
Based on how they think people will bet, the money line, and the outcome. My bet is that it opens at 9.5 or 9 next year depending on what the Eagles do this offseason.
It’s entirely dependent on what happens in the offseason
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I’ll admit I’m not a gambler. But if I were accepting bets, that’s what I would take it as. If my goal is to win money, I’m that confident that I can win set at 10.5.
2011 New York Giants- Worst Super Bowl Champs Ever
I'm sure that you are.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
The only consistency on the Eagles --
The Eagles will consistently fail in the playoffs.
Andy Reid will consistently insist that only a few tweaks are needed, as he stays on as head coach for another season.
by UnclaimedFright on Feb 7, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
You say some stupid shit.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Feb 6, 2012 5:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I wish they would stop this
We always seem to have better odds then people
"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company
Yeah we do
Vegas knows a sucker bet when it sees one.
Cowboys always have much better odds than they should too. I do not think this is a mistake.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
exactly
This really kills me, but we are who I hate. We won the offseason last year, and then failed to have a good season… we are the redskins. Throughout the season, and now apparently, Vegas gives us odds that are better than we deserve, because they set the line to make money off of people who dont know the truth, but believe in some flash..,. we are the cowboys.
why cant we be like the giants, and win?
Lines are set to make money,
Why wouldn’t you lowball the Eagles, a team with a huge, passionate fan base who will bet their heart – it’s a great bet for Vegas, because the Eagles will never win.
You leverage people’s hopeless optimism into money.
Sounds a lot like the Eagles Front Office,.
by UnclaimedFright on Feb 7, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Packers and Giants
These teams in the last two years have shown a surprising strategy of energy conservation. They were’t great right out of the gate, and both barely made it above 8-8 for the regular season. But having some injured key players return for the last several games, plus having decent bench depth, meant that these teams could “peak” much later in the season than the other teams that were playing so hot in weeks 1-12…
Sounds about right to me
I like turtles.
by Bleediots on Feb 6, 2012 5:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
the giants are going to be full of themselves
i guess i am still a little in denial. they barely won the division. they lost twice to the redskins. they won a couple games with a bunch of luck.
the eagles will be hungry and pissed and better organized than they were last year.
seriously. i agree with the odds.
at least who is more likely to win it all. giants or eagles?
by andyfrombrooklyn on Feb 6, 2012 5:40 PM EST reply actions
Yeah they lost to the Skins, yeah they barely won the division
But you known what Andy? They are the Super Bowl Champions. Could’ve been the Eagles or the Boys but they didn’t win enougn to games to qualify for the playoffs. The Giants did
by Guess Who's Back? on Feb 6, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Well
there is that superbowl parade,
there is that Eli being Elite thing
And meeting the president next year is not bad
And they are getting plenty of players back from DL
You have to put it into perspective. Like point spreads, odds aren’t necessarily meant to be predictive; they’re part of a strategy to get the right amount of money bet on something.
A simplistic explanation, if they anticipate lots of money to be bet on one team, they can lower the odds to minimize risk.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Exactly.
Luxury rap, the Hermes of verses. Sophisticated ignorance, write my curses in cursive
by Eaglesadvocate on Feb 6, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Right, but the principal works either way. In this case I’m surprised that Vegas believes that the rest of the country will see the Eagles as the 3rd most likely team to win it all
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A lot of that probably comes down to fanbase loyalty. Homers are what allow professional gamblers to survive.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
This.
Safe line for Vegas. Rake in the cash.
by UnclaimedFright on Feb 7, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Vegas betting on the hunger factor
The Giants just won’t be as motivated next year. Same thing happened to the Saints, the Colts, etc. Plus, when you have to go balls to the wall to make the playoffs, you do run the risk of injury, and the Giants were blessed to avoid late-season injuries.
My money would be on the Saints next year. They had a lot of changes, like the Eagles, and will probably gel given the additional time to work out together.
I want no hype surrounding this team at all next year
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 6, 2012 6:30 PM EST reply actions
Seriously
as much for the players’ sake as ours. I want them feeling humbled and disrespected and shat on all offseason so they put the work in. Being anointed kings before the first game did not work out so well.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
Makes plenty sense to me.......
All the football analyst know what the Eagles are capable of. This past season with all the new players and new coaches it too longer for everyone to get on the same page. The Eagles have a very talented team, but when Vince Young opened his big mouth and yelled ‘Dream Team’, the spot light was on them all season. Even though in the first part of the season they looked like a team in disarray, they still had a chance to when every game they lost…..plus they were 5-1 in the division. Destroyed the Cowgirls, the Redskins and split with NY. What the Eagles are capable of began to show during the last 4 games of the season……and it doesn’t matter what team they played, they were NFL teams. With a whole off season to prepare, with the defense now understanding the new schemes, with a new and respected DB coach (the fired one has to take some of the blame for players being out of position)…..the Eagles WILL make the playoffs next year. If you know anything about the history of the Eagles…..after each losing season (only 2) and each 8-8 season (2), they always made the playoffs the next year. Also, the OL and the DL will be considered one of the best in the league. They already have the best DE combo in Babin and Cole. Have faith my fellow Eagles fans,,,,have faith. Brighter days are ahead………and if you are a doubter……you can always root for the Giants……lol.
Goooooooooooooooooooooo Eagles……………..
The pats are baffling
Worst defense, no real weapons outside of Brady and their two TEs.. Sorry but Deon Branch, Ocho, and Woodhead are hardly going to scare a defense.
How many rings does brady have without a good defense? zero
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How many does he have after spygate?
Coincidence, I think not
by TimmyGee on Feb 6, 2012 7:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Actually I think coincidence...
All 5 of their SB’s were very very close and could’ve gone either way. If that hail mary had bounced two yards closer to gronkowski last night, would you have made this post?
Eagles' line is baffling
Better odds than the Saints or Giants for a team that will likely be pretty hard pressed to win more than 10 games next year?
Certainly can’t be recent playoff success either too.
None of that is predictive
The Giants hadn’t one a single playoff game since 200 before this year.
And I don’t know how you can presume that the Eagles will be “hard pressed” to win 10 games. We don’t even know what the roster will look like yet.
And as for the Saints… If they can’t get homefield throughout, they can’t win it all.
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No you don’t know what the roster will look like but winning 11 games or more in the NFL is pretty tough. Think it is around 10% of teams since ’00.
Eagles haven’t won more than 10 games since ’04.
About that 04 thing
If the Buccs don’t kick a 62? yard FG with 0 time left, we go 11-5 in 06
2009 we went 11-5
2010, if we play the Vikings when we were supposed to play them, this team goes 12-4 and gets homefield adv.
While it’s true that we haven’t won more than 10 games since 04 (besides 09) it’s not like we’ve been far off..
Just wait until December..
maybe its cause
The Giants will have one hell of a schedule next year since they: A.) won the divison and B.) won the Super Bowl. Plus as we all know they are going to have 16 mini super bowls meaning every team they play will be playing as to guage where their team is compared to the defending champs, not surprised they are ranked so low.
As for the Eagles, ehh maybe its because the “DT” will finally get a real offseason to come together as well as finishing as “hot” as they did at the end of this season.
there has been no repeat champ since 2004, which could be enough reason in itself
Go Giants!
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So..
1-6 odds means division winner and strong championship game contender, right?
1-8 means lucky to have wildcard, right?
This shit drives me nuts. 12 championships in the NFC East and Philly, 0. I felt that they were the best NFC East team in most of the 2000s. Just put it freaking together.
I would like to thank my hands for being so great, for allowing me to type this post.
by corn on the kolb on Feb 6, 2012 8:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
As of last night...
griffeagles said he’s still working on it
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 6, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
How Odds are Determined
Surely Vegas odds are determined much the same way they are over here in the UK – where the odds are as much risk mitigation for the bookies as anything else. If there are a lot of bets being placed for a given outcome, the odds shorten as the bookies want to reduce the amount of money they will pay out if the event happens. This means that, for instance, the odds of England winning the Euro championships this summer would suggest they have a very good chance of winning, but much of that is due to patriotic betting. German bookies (for example) would give much better value for the same bet.
If the betting public think the Eagles have a good chance, this would presumably shorten the odds regardless of whether the bookies really think it’s likely.
Vegas is simply stating the obvious.....
There is no chance, with EVERYBODY’S job on the line, that this organization shits the bed two seasons in a row. This team is due to win one, fellas.
Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!
I guess, like any good gambler...
They figure “Haven’t won in more than 60 years? They’re due!”
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