The Desean Jackson situation...
by wild_eagle on Feb 22, 2012 3:45 PM EST
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PrintIt's pretty obvious we as Eagle fans have a fairly large issue with Desean Jackson and his contract issue. Everybody has been throwing their two cents worth in so I figured that I would also comment in detail about it.
In this post I'm pretty much going to cover what I feel about the whole situation, what Desean brings to this team and a few directions the team could go should Desean not return.
What does Desean Jackson bring to the table?
First off we need to realize that up until this year Desean factored into two different categories here in Philly, he is a Wide Receiver and a Punt Returner. I personally do take into account the Return abilities because more times than not they're game changing plays that are nearly impossible to replace.
Desean has had some very crazy plays as a Punt Returner, we all saw what he did to the Giants 2 years ago and we've seen his magic over and over again. In his 4 years Desean has 116 returns for 1,226 yards and 4 TD's. While he only has 4 TD's he adds an average of 10.6 yards per return... The hidden yardage that special teams brings to the table makes a huge difference in the long run.
As a Wide Receiver Desean is electrifying when he actually puts forth an effort. In his 4 years Desean has 230 rec for 4,096 yards and 21 TD's. And while those are some good stats it doesn't tell the whole story of Desean, when he lines up his speed and presence forces teams to play their safety's back in order to try and limit the big plays.
However with all of the good we get out of Desean we get a level on inconsistency from him and he tends to disappear in the redzone, he'll go 3-4 games with only 2 catches for 30 yards and then he'll explode with a 4 catch game for 150 yards and a TD. In Desean we have a very streaky player to put it as simply as I can.
Options should we not resign Desean...
There are plenty of options should the Eagles and/or Desean decide a divorce is best for themselves or both parties.. My options will range from in-house guys, Free Agency and even the draft... I'll be picking the guys I feel are the best fit for the Eagles.
Free Agency:
- Vincent Jackson- Jackson is a deep threat WR, while not the same style as Desean he is a big play type of guy. One of the bonus's we could obtain by replacing Desean with Vincent is that we'd get a more physical receiver who can and will fight for the ball and even go across the middle.
- Dwayne Bowe- Bowe's likely to be franchised, I would actually be surprised if he wasn't at this point. However the reason I have Bowe on my list right now is because without a steady QB situation he still puts up great numbers and I feel that if we could promise him a steady QB situation and a winning team we could lure him away. Bowe actually isn't so much of a Desean replacement in this case as he is a complimentary guy for Maclin. Not to mention he is a Redzone target, and everybody knows how bad we need one of those.
- Steve Johnson- One of my boys from Kentucky is set to his Free Agency. I don't think the Bills will franchise Johnson due to the fact that there's plenty of WR's available in FA and the Draft... This could be good for the Eagles because Johnson provides a similar skill set as Jackson but a much bigger frame. If he holds onto the ball a bit better he's easily one of the better WR's out there this FA.
- Laurent Robinson- Robinson would surely be a risk if we picked him up, he's been ineffective pretty much everywhere until he signed with the Cowboys then something just seemed to click. I feel he could come in on a decent contract and provide a solid #2 option for Vick to throw to if we miss out on some of the bigger name guys.
For the draft aspect of this I'm going to basically go over some of the guys I feel will be there when we pick, I'm going to try and aim for 1 prospect per pick per round... So here we go.
- Round 1 (#15): Kendall Wright- Kendall is a vertical threat like Desean however he seems to be a little bit bigger and will go and fight for the ball. This kid will even go over the middle and put his body on the line. I feel like he could be a guy you can build a team around.
- Round 2 (#46): Alshon Jeffrey- Jeffrey's a big physical guy, if he runs in the sub-4.5's then he's a first rounder, however much of what I've seen has him in the early to mid 2nd.
- Round 2 (#51): Joe Adams- I love watching him play, he's an amazing returner and could potentially develop into a weapon close to what Desean has become.
- Round 3 (#77): Dwight Jones- Another big target who could potentially fill in and match the production that we lose by letting Desean walk.
- Round 4 (#99): Tommy Streeter- Another talented WR, I honestly don't know to much from him aside from what I've heard here on BGN.
- Round 4 (#114): Jarius Wright- A speedster who would likely need some time to develop.
Now lets take a look at a bit lesser talked about option to replace Desean Jackson should he end up in another teams uniform.. In my opinion our guy to move over into that slot left by Jackson would be Jason Avant, and I firmly believe that Avant could adequately fill that position and move out of the slot and be productive. Just take a look at his production when he's lined up on the outside in place of an injured Jackson or Maclin.
I do realize he dropped a few big balls this season but the norm for Avant is that he is sure handed and will make the catch and while his catch, yardage and touchdown totals are low he's always been just a slot guy who they use to go over the middle and try to make something happen, if we moved him to the outside we'd make him a bigger part of the offense and I think he'd respond by putting up respectable numbers, just take a look at what he did against SD in 2009 and the Bills this past season, he's definitely capable of putting up some big numbers.
Now I do realize this would create a void in the slot and I'm not a firm believer in Riley Cooper anymore, I think the Eagles should they decide not to bring in help through Free Agency should just draft a young guy who has the potential to move outside and let them learn the ropes in the slot, or if they do decide that Avant can be the answer to the Djax void then they can draft somebody like Rainey as a primary slot guy.
My 2 cents worth:
As far as I am concerned Desean can walk or stay and I'll be just as happy either way. There are enough FA WR's and enough depth at WR in the draft to ensure the loss of Desean will take a minimal toll. And by looking at the FA options and some of the options in the draft we could actually end up improving our situation moving into the future by letting him walk and taking the initial hit now and letting a young guy grow and develop past what we had with Jackson.
Or we could sign him, he'll grow a set and actually make some plays in 2012. If he signs here I think the Eagles will ensure that if he doesn't produce in 2012 that the hit is minimal when we dump his ass.
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Welp. Thanks for rehashing everything we’ve already talked about.
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Wait, you honestly believe that you wrote something original? Lol…
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Why can’t we all just get along…
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by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Because that’s boring.
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So to prevent boredom, you disagree ? ha ha
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
Hey d-jackfan
Can you do a post on the wr’s in the early part of this draft and who would best fit the Eagles if we somehow end up trading Desean. At 15, I think everyone other than Blackmon should be available, so a compare-contrast, strengths eval. on the likes of Floyd, Sanu, Jeffry, Wright etc.
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
W_E makes decent points in this article
I am with it, I would be fine if he stays or goes as long as we don’t spend too much or draft to high in a sense.
Trevor Laws: "Thank Giants for kicking to (Desean)."
Mike Vick: "Why would they kick to Desean?"
Matt Dodge: "Snap too high!"
NJ Eagle: "Fly Eagles Fly!!!"
I didn't say I wrote anything original, I wanted to explain my thoughts on the situation.
I don’t understand why you’re being such a little baby about it.
Also I haven’t heard anybody mention Avant as a possible solution should Djax leave.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Get rid of Marty and get someone who can really take advantage of the talent we have at receiver.
Tag Desean and either trade him for a bounty or bring him back for one more year.
Cut Avant.
Bring in Burress especially for the redzone.
And draft a receiver high in the draft just in case Desean leaves this year or the following year.
Of course no matter who you have at receiver, it won’t help if Vick can’t throw the ball without it being knocked down at the LOS.
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Cut Avant why?
And Marty who has set offensive records here doesnt know how to take advantage of WR Talent when his biggest criticism is he doesnt run enough andd passes too much?
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Avant is mediocre at best, there’s nothing special about him, he doesn’t do anything special.
Marty is just a plain idiot, he wouldn’t have set offensive records with James Thrash and Todd Pinkston or Charles Johnson and Torrance Small, it’s all about the talent, has nothing to do with Marty’s “brilliant schemes”, if anything he doesn’t use Desean to the fullest ability. The reverses he draws up take forever to develop. It’s not Marty that is the reason for the offensive records, I hope you realize that.
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Avant is a solid 3rd
he also does plenty of things that Desean cant. Like catching the majority of balls thrown his way, running routes, and not being a whiney bitch.
Look Marty might not be the best OC but thats a crazy complaint saying he doesnt utilize the WR Talent. “I hope you realize that”
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Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company
All I’m saying is that with the talent we have at receiver, they should be just lighting it up, and we played average at best last year, so who does the blame fall on ? I would say that Marty and Andy deserve a part of the blame on not capitalizing on the talent we have on this team. Do you realize the talent we have ??? It’s crazy, but we just couldn’t get it done last year, bad play-calling, unmotivated players reflect poorly on the coaches, especially the O.C. who is supposed to be in charge of them.
And Avant is a solid 5th, we should add a lot more talent and depth to our receivers this year.
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Avant's a solid 5th?
He was badass every year but last year. And everyone had a shit year last year.. I think he has some of the best hands in league, hands down. I’m just fine with him over Steve Smith at the 3rd spot, Even though Smith put up great numbers in NY. Avant’s tough and he blocks. I don’t care if he’s as slow as a tight end.
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
I think you kinda ruined your point with the “slow as a tight end” remark.
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
.....So you are saying speed is all that is needed?
Cause if “Slow as a tight end” is your biggest criticism of him then im pretty sure thats a good thing. We dont need him to be a burner
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Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company
He’s not just slow, I never seen him break any tackles or drag anybody with him for a couple of yards, possession receivers are a dime a dozen, again, nothing special about this guy.
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
You arent watching all that well than
I never seen him break any tackles
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I'm sorry but Avant's decent at breaking tackles.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
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Eagla hates Avant because of that one comment he made during the season that everybody took the wrong way.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 23, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, it makes sense now...
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Avant is a solid 3rd WR who has actually produced quite well when filling in on the outside.
A player like him is what you need on a team like this.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I read it
although I’ve seen better work from His Wildness… it’s better than nothing, there haven’t been too many great posts lately, it seems like everyone’s gone into hibernation after the Giants won the SB.
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
I think we need to bring him back for another year
When he and Vick are together they can be dynamic, Vick needs Desean to be his deep threat and nobody does it like Desean. Give him a whole camp to get ready for the season and I think we’ll see Desean at his best this year. Either way we must tag him, no sense in letting our assets walk away for free.
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Feb 22, 2012 3:59 PM EST reply actions
Tag him. Trade him. Draft Sanu.
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You know one
guy that no one talks about that I think could be a solid #2 in this league. Junior Hemingway from Michigan. He is a big guy and he is possibly a UDFA. He could be a complete steal. He is 6’1" 230 a 4.5 40 but I watched him play alot as a Michigan guy and he will go get that ball.
What does him being from Harrisburg have to do with anything
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Because
if you’re up for one final deal and have a chance to join your local team as well as a team that could be up there in the mix for a SuperBowl, it is easier than just taking the money option especially if the money being offered is broadly compareable.
by Kernowblazer on Feb 23, 2012 5:59 AM EST up reply actions
Good point, however I don't think he'll end up
leaving New Orleans.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Honestly I don't think it's all about the money with him.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
No home town discount
The Saints have to resign Drew Brees, Carl Nicks as well as Meacham and Colston and Marques has allegedly told them that he will not give them a home town discount – they either have to pay big … or tag him and pay big
by Kernowblazer on Feb 23, 2012 5:57 AM EST up reply actions
HE A PA. BOY
Totally agree. And I ALSO like teh Pennsylvania connection. May not mean much to others but I dig when we can promote our own.
btw
Bonus’s = bonuses
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
Ahh my bad.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
That is the right question -
All I’m saying is that with the talent we have at receiver, they should be just lighting it up, and we played average at best last year, so who does the blame fall on ?
Three thoughts:
(1) Michael Vick – short by qb standards. Tasked with the first full year of starting qb for the eagles. Given responsibilities to call protection scheme to his linemen with little time to learn the terminology nor to get comfortable in the driver seat. Vick regressed in 2011. I believe he was caught in the success of 2010 and did not committ sufficient time in the lockout offseason to be game ready in 2011.
(2) Offensive line – it was a work in progress with moving parts that did not settle in until week 5. By that time, the team was 1-4 and the climb back to .500 would continue until the last game of the year. BTW, our last 11 games we played 8-4 ball.
(3) Offensive playcalling – if you follow the eagles, you know what I’m talking about. goal line offense and your big RB tries to lateral the ball??!?!? 2nd and long and it’s suddenly 2 running plays? Up by 17 points late in the game and suddenly the offense is doing 3 incomplete passes and out?
I don’t think I’d hold Avant hostage to the eagles offensive whoas…
by milroyigglesfan on Feb 22, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions
I see that math error...
our last 12 games we were 8-4…
by milroyigglesfan on Feb 22, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
Or 7-5
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
All great points
Agree with you on all 3. But Vick will be better this year and so will the offensive line, but will the Marty-led offensive play-calling be any better this year ?
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of tagging and trading Desean and then grabbing Kendall Wright in the draft.
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
how could anyone....
in their right mind try to justify trading desean to bring in a player who for all we know could be a bust, its a moot point anyway deseans not goin anywhere mark my words.
by goldenbird09 on Feb 22, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Cheaper, less of a headache, younger and almost the same skill set as Desean, save yourself some cap space so you can better the rest of the team.
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
i hear ya......
but this team needs 2 win now and if there gonna win the lombardi desean is a must have, only player i would be happy to have if hes gone is vinny jack.
by goldenbird09 on Feb 22, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Well
If we’re trading Desean, you still have cap space to pick up a FA Wr of the caliber of Vincent Jackson and also get a top Wr in the draft, the likes of Kendall Wright, if you think Wright isn’t ready to star right away. I’d love to have some talented depth at the Wr position.
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I just hate players who put themselves before the team, i.e. Desean and Asante, can’t wait till they’re gone.
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
It's a good point, but there are some huge risks involved with that.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Tag and trade djax plus 1st round pick to get up and snag Blackmon. Hmmm maybe I been hittin the hookah
by smoothskittle on Feb 22, 2012 11:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That’s another way to do it as well, but how high would they have to go to get him and how much would they have to give up to get up that high. I’m all for LB in free agency, we need a sure thing at LB, a proven commodity in the NFL, not going thru another year of starting a rookie at MLB.
I'm all-in for the 2012 season !
Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Feb 22, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Does ANYBODY have any stats to prove that Desean doesn't go over the middle?
According to the broadcasts I was watching, he DOES. Especially last season where he didn’t catch as many bombs as usual, he still racked up 900+ yards. They had to come from somewhere. Where do they keep the stats that tell where a receiver’s passes were caught? I’m tired of people saying he doesn’t catch passes in the middle when I know that he does.
THE IN-HOUSE ANSWER IS RILEY COOPER.
The Eagles website on January 14 had this to say about Riley Cooper;
Speaking of bigger-framed receivers, one has to wonder how much the lockout hurt Riley Cooper? Senior offensive assistant/wide receivers coach David Culley could make Cooper his pet project this offseason.
It’s at the bottom of the page. Here’s the link:
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Offseason-Preview-Wide-Receiver/eccbb1ce-f715-45ca-984b-c13e203eb51f
Don’t argue with me, this came off the Eagles site.
Dave Spadaro is a homer and Riley Cooper sucks.
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by d-jackfan10 on Feb 23, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Yep
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by HawaiianGreen on Feb 23, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Um...
You’re reading something that said “David Culley could make Cooper his pet project this offseason…”…
I’m sorry, how many times is a player “probably going to be made” a pet project by a coach then 2 months later they’re gone?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I dont care if Djax is back
Personally Djax is the man.. but now that Mike Wallace Might be available there are soooo many options…
Sanu,Wright, and a few other top receivers will be available for us.
Free Agency is just so loaded up..
If anything trade Avant… Whats wrong with have three primo receivers…
1 – Djax
2 – Maclin
3 – Sanu
that would be a perfect receiving core
On Wallace
Don’t think he ends up here, there are teams that need a WR alot more and would be happy to give a first and a new contract (New England, San Francisco).
Laurent Robinson
one man who has half as many TD’s as Desean Jackson has in 4 years in only 2/3rds of a season spent subbing in for injured recievers
Makes me doubt his worth…. but the highlight tapes keep clawing me back into resigning him….
Laurent Robinson
also was the teams 3rd WR. If Desean Jackson played a whole season in the slot getting the same attention Laurent got he would have doubled his numbers.
yuhuh
But what about the games in which Miles Austin was out and he played as the number 1/2 reciever?
by Molemiester on Feb 24, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I would add him as a 3rd WR who can play the slot and play on the outside...
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I know I'm going to get crucified for this
but if Luke and Brockers are gone by 15th I wouldn’t be upset about trading a 1st for Mike Wallace. I don’t know how Wright and Wallace compare but Wallace is crazy good. If not I would love me some Dwayne Bowe
#DontfuckupJuan
Come on Andy
Shady McCoy is Still Dirty
Ravens 4 SB '12
No, why would we trade a 1st for a guy who's just like Desean?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
actually
Wallace is better than Jackson becuase of his route running and WILLINGNESS to go over the middle….
I would love to blow up Texas Stadium... With team still in it
36 plus years of rooting for the Eagles I think are comming to fruition this year.
I am not a FAN.... I am a FANATIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by eaglelover1 on Feb 25, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Some Fans Don't Get It
This isn’t Madden with our receiving core, the reason Avant is a good player is he does well in the slot, you can’t just move a DeSean or Sanu or someone into the slot and say he can play great there because the Giants (hit a gold mine) got lucky with Cruz who can play both inside and outside. Shouldn’t our corner situation last year prove that you can’t just take a talented player and play him out of position? What makes any commenter here saying “dump Avant and play some draft pick in the slot” think that slot receiver is different than slot corner in the sense of, it’s a totally different skill set than playing outside. Sorry to rant, but I liked it W_E nice summarization of the WR situation in the offseason, though I disagree on Avant being able to take over outside at Maclin’s spot and moving Maclin over to DeSean’s.
by BKing in the AZ on Feb 24, 2012 2:18 PM EST reply actions
I agree, Avant's a solid as they come in the slot.
I wouldn’t mind him on the outside as long as we had a young guy we were using Avant to bridge with.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Personally, I think our in-house option is a sleeper in Mardy Gilyard.
I think Gilyard will turn it on and do well enough here to break the starting lineup and keep Avant in the slot if they chose to ship Djack and not bring in a new WR although I’m not against that idea either. I just like the fact that Gilyard is on our roster. Unless I totally missed something and he isn’t anymore.
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