Teams Can Use The Franchise Tag Starting Today
by JasonB on Feb 20, 2012 6:45 PM EST
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PrintToday was the first of a nearly two week period in which NFL teams can use the franchise tag on free agents to be. The deadline to tag a player is March 5th, so there's certainly no rush, which is why no one got the tag today. Teams will head to the combine this week, where pretty much every agent in the NFL will be as well. So there will without a doubt be lots of negotiating going on in Indy.
If teams aren't close after that, you'll probably start seeing tags applied afterward. For the Eagles, the only candidate is DeSean Jackson, who when we last checked was looking for "Larry Fitzgerald" money that would pay him upwards of $10 million a year. If he's tagged, he'll actually get close to that, but just for this one year.
With guys like Stevie Johnson, Marques Colston, Vincent Jackson & Wes Welker all due to hit free agency, the Eagles would really only need one or two to get an extension this week to at least have a basis to work off for Jackson's deal. If they can't though, expect him to get the tag before the March 5th deadline.
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It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop !
We don't need the best players at every position,
we need players that play their best , at every position.
Tag him.
Based on what we know, it makes the most sense
What we know:
Desean Wants:
Long term deal
Guaranteed money (as much as possible)
Eagles want:
Long Term deal
Roughly 5-7M
It’s pretty obvious that in free agency market that includes V-Jax, Bowe, Colston, and Johnson, Desean isn’t going to get that money as arguably the fifth best wide receiver on the market.
If the Eagles tag him, it will allow the market to show him that any WR is going to make Fitz money, yet will guarantee that he stays in Philly for that 5-7 million rather than somewhere that might bid slightly more.
I am pretty sure that he would sign elsewhere for more money, even if the offer was just a penny more. 1Yard knows this could be his last chance to sign a big deal, he has to take the deal with as much guaranteed money as he can. He is 1 concussion away from never being offered a contract again.
I doubt that...
Is it about the money? Certainly. Is it entirely about the money? Doubtful.
Like I said in a previous thread, DJax needs a QB with a strong arm and good downfield accuracy to be successful. That limits the teams he would want to go to. Cross reference that with teams that already have a bonafide number 1 receiver they are paying upwards of 6 mil, and you end up with a very short list of potential suitors.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
The list could be very short, but he really only needs 2 teams to have interest in him for he and Rosenwhore to make them dance in hopes of driving up his asking price and maximizing his value.
As for the perceived need for him to go to a team with a strong-armed QB, you may have something there, but it could also work in his favor. Say a few of them (teams with strong-armed QBs) are intrigued by the thought of adding one of the most dynamic deep threats to their strong-armed QB, it may drive up his asking price and subsequent return should they work out a trade with Mr Piggy after we franchise him and the other team extends him.
Some risk in waiting, though...
Who here thought Santonio Holmes would get 5 years/45 million?? If one or two of these receivers get that kind of money:
A: Rosenhaus will be yelling from the tree tops…SEE, SEE, what I’m asking is not unfair!"
B: The price of the franchise tag for WR’s rises. Currently, the average of the top 5 is at 9.16 Mil. If two players in this crop gets 9 mil averages, the average of the top 5 goes to 9.8. Sure, that’s only a bit more…but it’s a lot when you consider the Eagles don’t even want to pay the first amount.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
franchise tag is different in the new CBA….no longer average of the top 5 players…
Under Article 9, Section 2(a)(i) of the CBA, the franchise tender for each position arises from a formula that takes the value of franchise tags for the last five years, adds them up, divides them by the total value of the salary cap for the last five years, and multiplies the resulting percentage by the salary cap for the current year. (Since there was no salary cap in 2010, the number to be used will be the average of the salary cap in 2009 and 2011.)link
The WR franchise would’ve been 11.4, but with the new CBA rules it is only 9.6 and will not increase dramatically unless there is a drastic increase in the overall cap.
Jeremy Lin already gets more foul calls than the Sixers
This whole situation makes me
want to puke.
They should have gotten a fair deal done way earlier.
Might have played better last year , and we wouldn’t have to endure this bullshit .
rosehaus is the anichrist.I might hate him as much as Dallas.
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop !
We don't need the best players at every position,
we need players that play their best , at every position.
Slightly OT
Anyone else kind of worried that the Eagles haven’t (from what it seems) opened talks with Evan Mathis on a long term contract? Maybe I’m being a little preemptive, but I’m getting nervous that they won’t bring him back.
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Eagles = worried lol
who knows what they r thinking… could move Todd back to left guard n draft or pick up a RT FA, maybe WJ gets put back at RT :( lol, or they draft a LG …its Andys’ thinking which always seems to pretty much baffle us fans lol….
No need to be nervous yet
The Eagles can’t extend Mathis because of the rules of the CBA for veterans signed on one year deals. So they have to resign him once free agency starts. Whether or not they are allowed to talk to him, I’m not sure. It’s possible that they aren’t allowed to officially enter into talks until free agency starts, just like they can’t with another team’s potential free agent. That’s a guess on my part, though. Either way, I won’t be nervous about him leaving until he starts taking plane trips elsewhere. I think both he and the Eagles realize that this is pretty much a perfect fit for him, so they will do what it takes to get the deal done.
by footballisgod on Feb 20, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
If Mathis doesn’t get resigned I will probably burn down an abandoned warehouse. I wouldn’t spend another penny on the Eagles until Roseman got fired.
Shady McCoy: Franchise records or GTFO
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by KeepSwinging on Feb 20, 2012 11:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
An abandoned warehouse? Really?
Not an Orphanage? Or a puppy store? Maybe Dunta Robinsons summer home?
What a waste of a good arson.
I would like to thank my hands for being so great, for allowing me to type this post.
by corn on the kolb on Feb 21, 2012 1:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The abandoned warehouse is NovaCare because no one will want to go there and let Howie drive their careers into the ground.
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by KeepSwinging on Feb 21, 2012 3:26 AM EST up reply actions
They have to resign Mathis,
Who else is going to take down the “Fire Andy Reid” Banners next year? Jason Kelce can’t do it by himself!
by UnclaimedFright on Feb 21, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t speak on how the Eagles feel about him, but I’m pretty sure he wants to be back here.
Why?
- Likes Mudd / Mudd’s system
- Likes his fellow offensive lineman
- Likes Andy Reid a lot
I understand why you’re bringing this up though. There hasn’t been a big discussion about this… it’s almost assumed that the Eagles will without a doubt re-sign him. I think they will end up signing him, but it’s something to watch. I don’t really think he can command that crazy of a deal. He played REALLY well here this year, and has played decently when he has played elsewhere (mostly Cincy, from what I can remember) … but it’s not like he’s been doing this all his career. Therefore, I think the Eagles should be able to get him at a reasonable price.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 21, 2012 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
The price shouldnt be a problem consider how much value the Eagles put into there dline and oline.
by Anders Jensen on Feb 21, 2012 7:12 AM EST up reply actions
He'll be back..
I don’t think they’ll let the best rated OG walk.
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They will if
he is asking for more money than Mr Piggy has “slotted” for him in his grand salary scheme of things.
by The Reddgie on Feb 21, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Andy Reid penny-pinching? Were you not around last offseason?
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by alcatraz0109 on Feb 21, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't say penny pinching
I implied that Mr Piggy determines what he thinks a player’s monetary worth is and refuses to go beyond that threshold, even if it means that player will no longer be an Eagle.
Honestly I want DeCastro if Mathis is gone.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Given Mudd's
past success with finding hidden OL gems in the later rounds, I want our high picks spent on defensive BPAs (unless someone falls that is too good to pass on, ala The Mac when we got him b/c OAK took Hey-Bey’s 40 yard dash).
Yes, however if we can take a guy like DeCastro who seems to fit Mudds scheme very well and
would be a solid-great player for 15 years then you invest the 1st on him.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
The Eagles value the O-line. And don’t forget, Leonard Weaver was in a similar contract situation and the first thing the Eagles did was re-sign him to a long-term deal.
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by alcatraz0109 on Feb 21, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
I wish we could get Colston or Steve Johnson instead of tagging Desean. I like Desean too but I feel his style of play isn’t fitting in with this team. We desperately need someone to go across the middle. I would miss Desean a lot but I don’t feel he isn’t replaceable.
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Call me crazy but if the Steelers don’t franchise Wallace why wouldn’t we spend $10 mil on a receiver who is actually worth it. Plus our combination of run and pass game Wallace and Maclin would dominate for sure. Although I doubt he gets let go, but one can hope!
We need Luke more than we need Mike Wallace.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
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