Plaxico, Moss, Jackson, Maclin?

by PhillyEagles0710 on Feb 13, 2012 2:51 PM EST

Last year the Eagles were by far the most successful team during free agency as we loaded our seconday with Pro Bowlers and decided to give them to Juan Castillo who was the teams O Line coach for the past 13 season. I can just imagine the conversation between Coach Reid and Juan, "Hey Juan, you've been coaching the O Line for the past 13 years, why don't you come coach defense?". Anyways if the Eagles want to make a legit Super Bowl run this upcoming season, we have to add on to Vick's receivers. With Jackson being franchised and Maclin on board for at least 2 more years, the Eagles have to look for size and experience at the WR position to give Vick more options and make it easier for him. The O Line is improvig with Danny Watkins showing promise at the end of the season and Jason Peters looking like a sure Hall of Fame candidate. McCoy is looking like the best RB in the league so all that's left on Offense is playmakers. Randy Moss wants to go to a team where he can have fun playing football and win at the same time. Plaxico as of recent is showing interest and claiming he "really wants" to come play in Philly (what we also thought when he left prison in a Phillies hat). The Patriots are unlikely to pick back up the recent post-retired Moss and even though he struggled a little with Tennesse with only 6 receptions for 80 yards and 0 touchdowns, he was just in the wrong situation. With Moss and Plaxico on the outside alongside Maclin and Jackson in the slots, now that's a killer rotation. Giving Nnamdi the benefit of the doubt in that the lockout affected his play and athleticsim and DRC was just getting used to playing the slot, the defense will be lights out on defense and as long as the Eagles score points, we don't lose. I'll end with this, 8th in points last year with a -14 turnover ratio which is terrible. If Vick knows he has a 6'4 Randy Moss and a 6'5 Plaxico Burress on each side of him then when all else fails throw it up. They don't call it getting "MOSSED" for no reason.

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by d-jackfan10 on Feb 13, 2012 3:15 PM EST reply actions 4 recs

Wouldn't do it if I were you.

You like to see some continuity with the WR corps so that eventually they all complement each other. You’d be getting 1 year rentals with Plax and Moss.

As a Giants fan though, I’d say definitely do it.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 13, 2012 3:16 PM EST reply actions 2 recs

Well, we do need a physical presence in the RZ

And Reid is on the hot seat so a 1 or 2 year rental would fit in with that. I’d be OK with one of them, not both. And it would be a situational role, we’re fine between the 20’s.

But my ideal scenario is LB in free agency and physical receiver early in the draft.

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by MRPH on Feb 14, 2012 6:42 AM EST up reply actions

Yup

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by KeepSwinging on Feb 14, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions

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by KByars on Feb 13, 2012 3:29 PM EST reply actions 6 recs

C'mon.

I agree with you, KB, that this guys post was sub-par, but give the guy the honor of a reason why you didn’t like his post.

Example:

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Bookend geriatrics in the red zone is not a good answer, assuming DeSean is back is …well.. assumptive, and having a a tall target is no choice for firing off the ball in a panic when you are under pressure.

And Jeez, dude, have you ever heard of a paragraph break?

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by IggleGreen on Feb 16, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions

It would take me more time to write out what’s wrong with it than he spent writing it in the first place.

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by KByars on Feb 16, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions

I hear you, but I really think o’s are cheating – if you want to keep up the high standard of the posts on here and mentor people into putting up better posts.

I don’t know if you were around when Wild Eagle started posting, but he got a lot of criticism, some hurtful, but most productive. Now his posts are outstanding – especially with regards to the workings of the front lines.

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by IggleGreen on Feb 16, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions

If he thinks that this is a good idea, I’m not sure that I’m capable of helping him.

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by KByars on Feb 16, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions

You don’t have to. There are others still on the site who do it from time to time.

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by IggleGreen on Feb 17, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions

What a dysfunctional crew that would be...

I like all of those WRs individually, but all jumbled together I think that would be a nightmare scenario for us. I like Maclin, he should stay around for a while. If we don’t bring back DeSean then I’d say we could bring in Moss and sign a rookie. If we do bring DeSean back Plax is worth a shot as a redzone threat. But those are the only scenarios that I like involving those players.

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by AnthroEagle on Feb 13, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

Release Maclin and Avant. 3 WR set:

Plaxico and Moss with T.O. in the slot.

Championship!

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 13, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions

Don’t leave out Boldyn.

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by KByars on Feb 13, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions

Hell maybe we can get

Vincent Jackson and we can just have the all about MEMEME bunch. Will be unstoppable to ruin the season.

by DcEagles29 on Feb 13, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions

That would be completely unstoppable! It’s still 2007, right?

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by AnthroEagle on Feb 13, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions

Aw yea, we’ll sign Peyton to throw to them.

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by KByars on Feb 13, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions

Shit, that sounds like a great plan. LT is coming on the market too, we should pick him up. It’ll be the Pro Bowl team.

(Sorry, PE0710 — I’m not trying to be an ass, it’s just fun to talk about all the former stars who are on the market right now)

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by AnthroEagle on Feb 13, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions

funny.. 4 years ago

Moss was the hardest WR to defend on the pats
TO was catching TDs and helped the cowboys to a 1st round bye and the 1 seed I believe
Plaxico was almost impossible to cover too
And Westbrook was better than LT

Just wait until December..

by maximdim on Feb 13, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions

Westbrook better than LT??????homer much?

At least one more year of Andy and Juan. If they don't win it all they both better be gone!

No way Eagles draft a LB in the first round 2012.

We will see if Spags was in the right place at the right time in the Gmens SB run. Or was that the fluke year and he really is just mediocre.

by MightyJoeBanner on Feb 13, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions

That year he was

He had like 45% of our total offense.. If I could take 07 BWest or 07 LT, I would take 07 BWest, wouldn’t you?

Just wait until December..

by maximdim on Feb 13, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions

Looked it up and no.

LT had over 100 more rushing yards(no big deal), Westy had more receptions and yards(90 for 771 vs 60 for 475) But LT crushed Westy in TD’s(18 vs 12) . Back then LT was hands down the best RB in the league. Defenses were geared just to stop him. McNabb was great at spreading the attack around. He made Curtis look like an all pro that year.

At least one more year of Andy and Juan. If they don't win it all they both better be gone!

No way Eagles draft a LB in the first round 2012.

We will see if Spags was in the right place at the right time in the Gmens SB run. Or was that the fluke year and he really is just mediocre.

by MightyJoeBanner on Feb 14, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions

You evil man.
:)

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by IggleGreen on Feb 16, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions

Like Anthro said, individually those wr’s have merits, with plax and moss on the decline if not already out of it, but jumbled together I think it would just be a complete mess. Maybe if we were playing madden it’d be ok..

by notfromphilly on Feb 13, 2012 5:44 PM EST reply actions

A mess...or Incredible

Oh and just to clarify I totally messed up my coach conversation, supposed to “want to come coach defense?” sincere apologies. But Plaxico didn’t have the greatest season this past year which is why I think he’s humble now. He finished the year off with 8 touchdowns and would help Philly tremendously in the red zone as a tall target. Moss is the same way. He wants to win and isn’t necessarily worried about his stats over winning a championship. Just a thought, but thanks you guys for the comments.

by PhillyEagles0710 on Feb 13, 2012 6:53 PM EST reply actions

What is this I don’t even

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by Djax10 on Feb 13, 2012 9:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

Moss is a bum with no heart and no talent left

At least one more year of Andy and Juan. If they don't win it all they both better be gone!

No way Eagles draft a LB in the first round 2012.

We will see if Spags was in the right place at the right time in the Gmens SB run. Or was that the fluke year and he really is just mediocre.

by MightyJoeBanner on Feb 13, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions

Agreed.

Don’t need anymore marquee names. We need some players to come in and make a name for themselves (Cruz, Jordy Nelson, Brian Rolle, etc.), Screw Plaxico and definetly screw Randy Moss.

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by EagleDomiNation on Feb 13, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions

I hate to be that guy

but no paragraphs = ow, my eyes.

I could take on either Plax or Moss. I don’t see why we’d want or need both plus all the WRs we currently have.

Oddly I’d prefer Plax because I think he’s willing to work as a role player, that role being “All he does is catch touchdowns.”

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by D3Keith on Feb 13, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions

Paragraphs. Please edit this into sectioned off thoughts.

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by h2o_34_35_44 on Feb 14, 2012 12:59 AM EST reply actions

Is there something wrong with the Wrs we have?

Didn’t the Eagles offense have a statistically great year? Sign Jackson and put resources somewhere else, not on an aging WR who will be a cancer in the locker room of a young team.

PS Paragraphs are your friend.

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by stinkypants on Feb 14, 2012 1:01 AM EST reply actions

We do need to

put some resources into a redzone target. Someone we can throw that corner fade and he just jump up and get and please dont say Cooper or I just may have to piss on the driver seat of your car

by DcEagles29 on Feb 14, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions

MAI I’Z

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by HawaiianGreen on Feb 14, 2012 2:44 AM EST reply actions

Try a bowl of Saimen. That is really good for hurtin’ I’z.

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by IggleGreen on Feb 16, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions

I'd possibly take a flyer on one of them...

probably Plaxico since he actually played in the NFL last year, just to have a change of pace from the quick, shifty Maclin and Djax, plus he’d help the notorious red zone woes, but it all depends on what they do in the draft. If they address the LB/S issues in FA, and go for one of the receivers after Blackmon, then no. If they take Kuechly or someone like Mark Barron (SS, Bama) and wait for someone like Stephen Hill in a later round, Plax or Moss may be a worthwhile risk, especially if one of the other (probably Randy Moss) comes cheap and cuttable.

Derek Moye from PSU seems like a UFA candidate too… he’s tall, but he’s also skinny, and Andy loves him some skinny receivers.

by BPB on Feb 14, 2012 12:09 PM EST reply actions

i really dont mind grabbing Plax.

I think that he can be that big target we are looking for and i think he dislikes the g-men as much as some of us do.

by KrumbSnatcha on Feb 14, 2012 12:18 PM EST reply actions

I like how fitting this comment in considering your user name, lol.

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by AnthroEagle on Feb 14, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions

Just one problem

Philly does not have the salary cap to feed a money hungry Jackson, Moss who knows he should be paid good and plaxico who is all about money. Maclin is the only humble one and even with all the games he sat out he still performed better than Jackson IMO this year.

by joseph32 on Feb 14, 2012 12:22 PM EST reply actions

OH Maclin

hands down out performed Jackson, Plax and Moss will not be as money hungry as people think, well maybe Plax because he did have a descent season on a piss poor pass team but Moss didnt play last year because of money I believe and that will change for the better so he can get in an earn as any contract for him you have to think will be incentive based. Perform get paid, dont get squat. Easy as that

by DcEagles29 on Feb 14, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t understand the obsession Eagle fans have with getting these old, over the hill, rental players. We tried the Dan Snyder root last season and got embarrassed. We need to bring in players on more than a 1 year contract, and we need those players to be under 30. Like BBI said, these guys are rentals. Plus they haven’t been particularly effective in recent memory. I get that they’re tall, and we need to improve in the red zone, but these guys aren’t the way to do it. It seems like a lot people have a “Plax or bust” mentality about the Eagles right now. They must have been so traumatized by the 05 season they still think it’s 2006.

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by KeepSwinging on Feb 14, 2012 1:34 PM EST reply actions

With Banner's fantasy football fetish...

…and Henchman Howie looking to bleacher report as if it’s the gospel truth, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if TO and Randy were both here next season.

The bad news? Castillo's back.

The good news? With the 7-9 season coming up and all the Eagles games being played at 1:00 (and in the bag for the opponent by 2:30 at the latest), we'll all have plenty of time to rake the leaves and whack off. Stock up on your Astro Glide, ladies!

by EvilBanner on Feb 14, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions

T.O.?!

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by ILL Eagle on Feb 15, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions

Why would you post this

by ieatcrayons on Feb 14, 2012 5:03 PM EST reply actions

Throw in TO as well. lol

by N4S on Feb 15, 2012 2:40 PM EST reply actions

someone on pft sincerely suggested it ...

smh

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by NorthPhillyKid on Feb 15, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions

DANG

If that happen, Tat will be scary fo the other team.. Good luck with that but to me, I think we dont need both just get Burgess cause we hella need defense.. LIKE THEY SAID, DEFENSE WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS.

by jx619 on Feb 15, 2012 3:35 PM EST reply actions

If it was 2007, this would be awesome.

by MG77 on Feb 15, 2012 9:36 PM EST reply actions

Funny how we drafted Maclin as a compliment to Jackson (well not really but that's how it was perceived)

But now that it’s clear that Maclin’s the #1 WR here in Philly and clearly the guy we want to build upon in the WR core I am beginning to think that we need to find a compliment to Maclin…

Now people don’t realize it but Maclin is a deep threat, the dude is pretty fast and he’s reliable… I think Jackson’s the perfect guy to pair with Maclin skill wise however do you want to bring in young guys to learn behind Maclin or Jackson? Because you get two polar opposites and while one will teach humility the other could mindfuck the shit outta the young guy…

It’s just another thought I got from reading this and the responses.. Point being I think we should sign Desean for a reasonable price and possibly look at adding another young, talented threat to our offense who has the ability to play outside because I think moving Desean into the slot could be deadly because he’ll get a free release the majority of the time.

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