Ex Eagles Not Sorry To See Pats Lose Super Bowl

by JasonB on Feb 12, 2012 3:00 PM EST in Philadelphia Eagles News

Geoff Mosher wrote a great piece this week that I had missed in which he talked to a few Eagles from the 2004 Super Bowl team to get their feelings on the recent Giants win over the Patriots. As it turns out, they were probably pretty happy with the outcome. They really seem to think that the Patriots were cheating at the time.

"I want my ring back, and you can write it," DT Darwin Walker said. "I'm still mad about it."

"Do I think they were cheating? Point blank, the answer is yes," he said.

He is of course referencing the Patriots "spygate" scandal which broke a few years after that game. The NFL penalized the Patriots for illegally videotaping opponent's defensive signals.

Hugh Douglas pointed out that Tom Brady hasn't quite been the same in big games afterward.

"You can't cry over spilled milk, but you do look at it and it makes you wonder how, in the game, in those situations, Tom Brady used to be lights out and couldn't be stopped,"

Ike Reese actually gives them some credit.

"I guess I'm one of the few that think, 'Kudos to those guys for coming up with a more conniving, deceptive way to win games.' I wish they had gotten caught after [beating Carolina in Super Bowl XXXVIII, the year before], and we would have benefited."

It's interesting that these guys still feel so strongly about this. And the quotes here are just a sampling. Check out the full article for more. These guys are serious about this.

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I feel the same way Ike does

At least one more year of Andy and Juan. If they don't win it all they both better be gone!

No way Eagles draft a LB in the first round 2012.

We will see if Spags was in the right place at the right time in the Gmens SB run. Or was that the fluke year and he really is just mediocre.

by MightyJoeBanner on Feb 12, 2012 3:03 PM EST reply actions

hey let's beat a dead horse..

I spit on your grave then I grab my Charles Dickens.

by jeffthenry on Feb 12, 2012 3:18 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions

Liking the sig

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by FloridaEagle on Feb 12, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions

The worst is that the NFL destroyed the evidence, so that just ad to the whole feeling about it.

by Anders Jensen on Feb 12, 2012 3:19 PM EST reply actions

Yeah, I always wondered why they did that…very strange…

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by immynimmy on Feb 12, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions

you think they wanted a disputed super bowl? you can bet that if jeff lurie or andy reid saw those tapes and it was proven that they did cheat, it would probably still be in the courts today. you think the nfl wants that kind of controversy and bad publicit? it was much easier to destroy the evidence and fine them

by bula412 on Feb 13, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions

1. Commissioner works for the owners.
2. What immynimmy said.

It’d have been horrible for the league, and the Commish’s job is to prevent that. Injustice? Sure. Surprising? Not really.

by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 13, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions

Firing Andy Reid...

…would go a long way towards making what happened in 2004 go away.

The bad news? Castillo's back.

The good news? With the 7-9 season coming up and all the Eagles games being played at 1:00 (and in the bag for the opponent by 2:30 at the latest), we'll all have plenty of time to rake the leaves and whack off. Stock up on your Astro Glide, ladies!

by EvilBanner on Feb 12, 2012 3:46 PM EST reply actions

Funny thing is

Brady has been statistically many times better after spygate than before it.

During the Pat’s first two superbowl seasons, Brady was practically Game Manager maximus

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by Willgfass on Feb 12, 2012 5:21 PM EST reply actions

sidenote: I forgot Q use to wear 46.

Trevor Laws: "Thank Giants for kicking to (Desean)."
Mike Vick: "Why would they kick to Desean?"
Matt Dodge: "Snap too high!"
NJ Eagle: "Fly Eagles Fly!!!"

by NJEagle on Feb 12, 2012 5:22 PM EST reply actions

Seriously it was 7 years ago

And it seems like it was longer than that. That loss sucked but cripes it was a long time ago and I’m over it.

Go Eagles!

by MRPH on Feb 12, 2012 5:29 PM EST reply actions

I can't say that I blame them too much.

For a lot of those guys on the team it was their only chance at winning a Ring. So to have to retire without one must make you extremely bitter.

SN: Some clock management would have went a long way in that game.

"I once had a friend named Charlie, and Charlie was always late to school
He had a black eye one day, but he wouldn’t say just what happened to him
Charlie got mad in class one day, and stood up with a .22 pistol
Told everybody that he couldn’t take it anymore, he was over being the victim"

by Snax on Feb 12, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions

I hear them but

there were other factors why we lost that game. 1) We couldn’t run the ball (you can still out physical ppl even if they know your plays) 2) Chad Lewis getting hurt in the NFCC…LJ Smith stunk 3) McNabb came up small on a number on plays like the int to Harrison. It was a late throw to Bwest and he had the WHOLE right side to run.. 4)Like Snax said above clock management and once again McNabb not running when he needed to lol gotta pull out all the weapons in a game like that but whatever I’m over it too lol.

by mcnabb2010 on Feb 12, 2012 11:32 PM EST reply actions

I agree, but...

Still…it was a 3 point game. One first down either way could have made the difference.

by BrianS on Feb 13, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions

If the Pats had the defensive signals...

Then why could they basically not move the ball at all in the first half?

The Eagles lost because of the two minute drill that wasn’t a two minute drill. That was really the difference, the Patriots were lucky enough to have the Eagles run out the clock for them.

by MP-17 on Feb 13, 2012 5:08 PM EST reply actions

Even with that long drive we still had a chance. I wondered why we tried the onside kick. We had timeouts (yeah, imagine that) and the defense was rested and got a stop last time they were out there. One first down by the Patriots and it’s over anyway. And, we only need a field goal. As it turns out we did get the ball back with 40 some seconds left. If we only needed 20 – 30 yards we may have had a chance at a FG. Starting inside the 20 it was over.

I was pissed when Reid decided to onside kick.

Go Eagles!

by MRPH on Feb 14, 2012 6:16 AM EST up reply actions