I Haven't Seen Real Eagle Football In 13 Years And Counting!

DId you delete and then repost this? I saw that it disappeared and now it’s back.

Historically from 1960 to 1999 Eagles football has been losing football. Sooo i guess the last 13 years isnt real Eagles ball?

Mcnabb was the best qb in that draft class hands down. Outside of peyton and maybe Luck, there aren’t any qb’s coming of college in the last 30 years that are in the same league as Montana

I’m not the biggest Andy Reid fan but even I can admit that he’s had a nice run. By the way i voted no.

but in todays football. the best defense is a great offense. saints, packers and patriots are testament to that

You must hate winning.

im 25 going on 26 soon and I grew up watching tough defense and an all around blue collar team.

To be honest with you, most of the NFL is more like the eagles. very few “power” teams around these days. its a passing league and defense more and more are being built to rush the qb

CHAD HALL IS AN AMERICAN HERO

I agree with most of what you said. They don’t know when to run or when to pass, they don’t establish the run, so the defense can pretty much go after the Qb, no wonder Vick’s play regressed this year, the defenses knew that they were pretty much going to pass the ball. I’m not sure how to fix that, if it’s an Andy problem or a Marty problem. I thought they did use Duce and Buck better when Childress was in charge, they still didn’t run the ball enough, but they did have some sort of balance. Where as now, probably most of our rushes this year are in the 4th quarter when we’re up by a lot, comparatively, the other 3 quarters our run/pass ratio is probably way off.

But here’s one thing I’ll say about Andy, he was stuck with Donovan forever, and when he got rid of him, I thought he turned a new page and he is trying to re-invent himself a little bit. I don’t blame him for the last 2 years because 2 years ago he turned the Kolb injury into a positive by going out on a limb and inserting Vick and keeping him in there despite of Kolb returning and we all saw how that worked out. The most recent year, he did some good things by changing his philosophy on both the offensive and defensive lines and that worked out well, but the whole lockout situation really effed us up this past season. I know where you’re coming from, cuz I’ve been watching the Eagles since the early 90’s myself, but I don’t think Reid is the biggest problem here, I think we are on the verge of something special and hopefully all of us can be patient enough to finally enjoy the Super Bowl year that is not too far away (maybe even in 2012) !!!

But I definitely felt what you felt, especially after the Seattle game, in regards to the defense being soft and not hard-hitting, that’s when I thought that this was not Eagles football, I’ve never seen them like this, good thing they cleaned that up a little bit. I think the players had pretty much quit on the coaches for most of the season but somehow put up a fight in the last 4 games to save Reid’s job. I hope next year is much better with a new D-Coordinator and in my personal opinion, we all need a change at O-Coordinator.

But great job, and keep posting, minus all the spelling mistakes.

Andy Reid may not win a SB here and that should be the ultimate goal for any coach. But winning a SB shouldn’t be the requirement for any coach. Winning a SB requires many things that a coach simply does not and cannot control. What should be the measuring stick for a coach, IMO, is getting within striking distance of a SB consistently. Recently, Reid has slipped in that regard, but for 10+ years he brought this team from being terrible to being SB contenders almost every year. He has had plenty chances and this year was a very big misstep. If next year doesn’t have us getting back within striking distance, I have no problem saying it’s time to move on (I wouldn’t have even complained that much this year).

What really bugs me about all the Reid haters is this delusion that they have been watching a shitty Eagles team for 13 years. To hear you all talk it’s as if we were 2-14 every year. What you have actually been watching is the most successful Eagles run in the SB era. It’s ok to admit that fact while also saying that you think Reid’s time should be done.

And another thing: chill out with the Buddy Ryan fellating already. Is there a more overrated figure in Eagles history? Oooh he had tough, mean defenses and he was a real blue-collar asshole. Hooray! How about win a damn playoff game? You wanna talk mediocre? Buddy Ryan was a mediocre head coach. Brilliant defensive coordinator, sure, but mediocre head coach.

I’ve seen two Eagles last two years: the week 17 last year against Dallas and this year second Redskins game. They were both completely meaningless, but fun as hell. You’re missing out buddy.

Its a new Era in NFL football. It evolved. You want defense, running and a Super Bowl. But look at all of the top seeds in the playoffs this year. High flying passing teams with shitty defenses.
I dont think that any of the 12 playoff teams this year are feared because of their defense. You may be able to make a case for Balt, Hou, or SF….but they’ve all 3 been torched in one game or another. And these passing teams that are seeded ahead of them are just the kind of teams that can nullify their ‘good’ defenses.

The Eagles should go back to old time Eagles football — 240 lb tackles, and leather helmets, no face masks. That’s tough smash mouth shit there. The game has changed a bit in the last 50 years, but that’s no reason the Eagles have to go along with the changes in the league. Make Chad Hall a linebacker!

/TROLL

Only I remember things differently than you. I remember the team winning a moajority of it’s games in the 80’s and 90’s yet still not comming close to winning a SB. Then came Reid. Not only did he win games but there was actually a chance trhe team wouls win a SB. 4 years straight. 2 losing season in 13 years. Yeah Reid sucks big time.

The problem with nostalgia is that if you look at it too long it starts to take over reality. Instead of saying you pine for those Buddy Ryan days say you wish the Eagles would hire a DC that coaches the type of playing style. Unfortunately, that playing style is not goingto win a SB. Look at the teams in the playoffs right now….only 2 are truely smash mouth (Ravens, 49ers) with one (Broncos) just a step away. The Steelers are no longer a black and blue team. Everybody else is going to air it out. The sad part is with the right OC none of these teams would have been able to beat the Eagles. Not the Packers, not the Saints, and definitely not the 49ers. Yes, Castillo was bad but, he was not calling the plays that prevented the Eagles from scoring a TD in the 4th quarter of 6 of their 8 loses while leading the game going into half time. Even in the Seattle game where they should have passed the ball 30-40 times they guessed wrong and went with a heavy dose of running the ball.

I tell you what fire Marty and hire Norv Turner if he gets the axe and watch the Eagles win a SB. It’s the playcalling that holds his team back. Childress was a horrible HC but you must admit that while he was the OC this team ruled offensively and didn’t have 1/3 of the weapons it has now.

I am good with Andy for 1 more season. Bring in Spags, start using Shady more in the begininnig of the game and watch what happens……

was the most exciting defense and game style I have witnessed in Philadelphia Eagle history. During those times I always wondered what it would be like to have a Houston Oilers style offense. A team that could just throw up yards and points but it’s defense sucked. Now I know.

Andy was carried by Jim Johnson’s defense in many ways. And when Jim’s defense let us down….we lost NFC Champ games and the SB. Not that our offense isn’t/wasn’t potent. Just that it seemed when Andy went flat our “D” did too. Besides the Carolina NFC Champ game and Jim’s defense SHUT CAROLINA DOWN!!!!!!!!! But our offense got raped! And the 5 yard bump rule was made bc of that game.

Any way I see a lot of people ishing on Buddy’s results…..but it was mean and more ferocious than imaginable compared to today’s standards bc guys would of been fined, suspended and maybe even thrown out of the league. And Randall was electric. The team just had a swagger that engulfed the city.

He was not gonna take running the ball serious.

So the three headed monster (Staley, Buckhalter, Westbrook) wasn’t taking running the ball serious? Shady’s season this year wasn’t taking running the ball serious? The Eagles were 6th in the NFL in rushing this season.

The fact is, running the ball does not guarantee success like it used to. Look at every playoff team. I’d say there are three teams whose running game was the sole reason they got there – the Ravens, the Texans, and the Broncos. The best teams in the playoffs (Patriots, Saints, Packers, and for the most part, the 49ers) got there with their passing game.

Look at the difference between Buddy’s point of view on quarterbacks and Andy’s point of view. In Buddy’s own words, quarterbacks were “overpaid, overrated divas.” Who is the most important player on the field? Wouldn’t you want a coach who will put his focus on quarterback play?

I am so sick of this “back in the day when the Eagles D was good” asshattery. Guess what: they had a great Defense and never won a damn thing. The vaunted Buddy Ryan couldn’t offensively coach his way out of a paper bag and it looks like that Tradition is continuing up the turnpike (Rob must be the milkman’s baby).

Was it exciting to watch the 90s defenses? Yes, but it lead to nothing. It’s like laughing at the kid who talks back to the teacher. Sure you see him do it and say… “Wow that kid is cool” then he gets his ass thrown in the principals office and nothing is achieved.

So yeah I hope for your sake we go back. Hell let’s bring back Kotite and lose games because the charts were wet, or we can all get real pumped up about beating Dallas once while they go win superbowls. Awesome idea.