Nate Allen Ends His Season On A High Note
Nate Allen got his 2011 season off to a rough start. No doubt a large part of the reason was that he was still getting over a knee injury suffered last in 2012, but it doesn't change the fact that he struggled. And the struggles were all around. His tackling was poor, his coverage was lacking...
But things got better. His tackling improved and lapses in coverage disappeared. I've been encouraged to see how he's been positively graded by Pro Football Focus over the last month. They say that the season finale was his best game of the year.
Second-round 2010 pick Nate Allen had his best game of the year (+3.3). He allowed none of the three passes thrown at him to be completed (including knocking down two passes) and made a heads-up play by intercepting a tipped pass downfield. He was stood up on one run by the fullback, but otherwise did solid work in the run game, notching four solo tackles, one of which was a stop.
He was also graded positively in the Miami game and they singled out his performance against the Cowboys for praise as well.
With Asante Samuel out and the Cowboys’ strong receiving targets, the Eagles needed to make sure their secondary wasn’t going to be a reason for concern. Some of their lesser known players stepped up like safety Nate Allen (+3.0 coverage) who used his physical nature to prevent two passes from being caught by hitting the receiver while in the act, which forced two dropped passes. While he was thrown at five times, he allowed just one catch for no yards.
It was a good end to the year for Allen and certainly a sign that at least one of the two safety positions looks to be filled for next season.
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by LEKSensei on Jan 4, 2012 9:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions
he had a real bad injury people forget
anyone needing injections to run probably doesnt deserve to be on a football field in the first place. its sad a injured sophomore was our best option there.
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by DaaaBirdsDaBirds on Jan 4, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
It wouldn’t surprise me if the Eagles took a safety in the 2nd round for the 3rd straight year. I like Nate, and think he’ll be a solid starter for the next 8 years. But the other side… eh. I like Kurt Coleman, but I like him as a backup and special teamer. If I were an opposing coach with some speed at WR/TE, I’d be trying to figure out ways to exploit Kurt specifically. I think a goal of the front office is always to try to upgrade positions where you have guys like that. The X factor is Jaiquawn Jarrett, of course. I have absolutely no idea what he is.
Horrible safety play in the NFL has become extremely common. Pair a guy like Nate with another safety that pans out, and maybe you’re solid at a position that the rest of the league isn’t.
Very true
Jai Jarret is a complete unknown quantity. Picking up a S around Rd 3 would not surprise me in the slightest
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by ProtoTyler on Jan 4, 2012 9:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't want a safety pick
It seems to me that adding a vet to the mix makes more sense than another young guy. If Allen has one spot locked down, we already don’t have enough playing time to give the young guys we have.
I actually think they had the right idea with Jarrad Page. Obviously the wrong guy, but a serviceable vet in case either Jarrett or Coleman don’t step up.
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agreed
I don’t want one either but we are nothing if not unpredictable in the Draft
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Draft
we hit on Offensive players all the time, but Defensive guys we havent and we got unlucky with Allen and Graham injuries because they looked like hits.
by StevenKerwood on Jan 4, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Jarrett was horrendous in the lolskins game...
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by DesertEagle59 on Jan 4, 2012 1:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Depends
I agree that we should look to upgrade safety but how how are the prospects in the draft (I don’t follow that much)? I guess my point is that if we could upgrade 2 linebacker spots with better prospects we may be better off doing that rather than taking a safety in the second that may be a reach. Plus like you said, we have Jarrett and he would have a complete offseason.
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Barron and Lester are coming out of Alabama. Saban gets good recruits and teaches a great defense.
McDonald is coming out of USC. USC always has great talent and Monte Kiffin coaches an NFL defense.
I do not know where a Kiper or McShay would rank these guys, but they are coming out of good programs. I would love the front office to spend some picks on a few defensive players from Alabama this year.
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I thought McDonald was staying?
Shady is the man.
by ProtoTyler on Jan 4, 2012 9:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
oops
Did not see that.
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I think Kurt’s a solid starter. Seems to always be around the ball. Good tackler.
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by Mikesta on Jan 4, 2012 9:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree but he’s best as a fall back option. If you can get someone better you do it, but playing Coleman won’t hold back the D.
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by ProtoTyler on Jan 4, 2012 9:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Instead of drafting a guy
They may bring in a veteran the (hopefully new) DC likes. This way you can stabilize the position by having a good veteran back there. I don’t know who, so don’t ask. Just throwing it out there. They already have a bunch of young guys, I can see them drafting a cornerback higher this year honestly. Asante is probably out and you’re down to Assmugger, DRC, and Joselio (who is ONLY useful in the slot.) Other than that, we have a bunch of late round unproven guys backing them up. Again, maybe they’ll sign a vet there. Who knows.
Loooooooong offseason.
True.
I think someone else will brought in. A vet would might be preferable. Would depend on who is available tho
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by ProtoTyler on Jan 4, 2012 10:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lmao...that was fuked up
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by DesertEagle59 on Jan 4, 2012 1:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Laron Landry seems like he would compliment Allen well, but he hasn’t been healthy and the Skins might resign him.
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by philiafan14364 on Jan 4, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Allen
Has the ability to stabilize the S position. I’m optimistic to see how he improves with a full healthy offseason
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by ProtoTyler on Jan 4, 2012 9:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Allen
I’m not sure why so many people were down on him. Maybe it’s that he isn’t Dawk (getting over that pipe dream). Maybe it’s that they sort of tied him to Jarrett in that Jarrett was a reach so they now feel Allen was. The reality is he was a fringe 1st round 4 year starter whom most mock drafters had going to the Eagles with that exact pick.
He was a quality player in college so there’s no reason to think he can’t be that in the pros.
People were down on him because he had some brutal games early in the season, but, as jason mentioned, he got better as the season progressed.
And it's not mentioned much
but with that brutal first half he just didn’t trust his knee enough to go 100%.
I also think the new defense had something to do with it. I’m sure he’s much more comfortable with everything now and healthy. I’m hoping he has a great season this coming year. I liked him coming out of college.
brutal games
I’m speaking in overall terms. People were soured minutes after he was drafted and the fact he wasn’t a major impact last year just increased that thought.
Exactly.
He’s played thru a fucked up knee. Showed a lot of promise,and I think we should stick with him.
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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Jan 5, 2012 8:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wait I thought he was FS and Coleman was SS. I like Coleman, he showed a lot of promise this year, and even glimpses of BDawk in his hitting. Maybe with new coaching, he will be even better. He can tackle, catch, so so with his coverages but, like we all criticized this season about the zone coverages called, it is not his strong point. I can see Spags sending him on blitzes and dropping down to cover TEs and HBs.
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i think the names of the two positions were reversed this year.
by RogerPodacter on Jan 4, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
The positions are basically interchangeable in this defense.
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What? Nate Allen sucks
“He gets lost in coverage, doesn’t break down well in space, horrible tackler, runs a slow 40, too stiff to play man coverage, he shouldn’t even be starting, he’s the worst safety in the nfl, I miss jarrad page, blah, blah, blah”
by con-vick on Jan 4, 2012 11:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions
he’s the worst safety in the nfl, I miss jarrad page
You take that back!
He had a really bad knee injury and he MIGHT not ever get back to what talent or speed he had before, but its too early to tell that. We will see this season whether he is worth an investment.
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by thePurpleLion on Jan 4, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
i think he was being sarcastic, judging by the part about jarrad page
by RogerPodacter on Jan 4, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I miss jarrad page

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by DaaaBirdsDaBirds on Jan 4, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Nate Allen 11th best NFL Saftey
NFL Saftey Rankings (atleast 60% of snaps)
Nate Allen finished 11th ahead of Brian Dawkins at #14
How dare you?
Brian Dawkins’ best attributes dont usually show up on the stat sheet….
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 4, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Advanced Nate Allen vs B-Dawk Breakdown
Categories in BOLD is the higher rated in that category
Nate Allen 770 Snaps
Overall- +3.8
Blitzing- 0.5 +0.7
Coverage
Run D- +2.4
Tackles and Assists- 55
Missed Tackles- 6
Stops- 19
Targets- 28
Receptions- 12
NFL QB Rating throwing at NA- 48.8
INT- 2
Pass Defended- 6
TDs Allowed- 1
Brain Dawkins 796 Snaps
Overall- +2.3
Blitzing- +0.7
Coverage- 3.4 +4.9
Run D
Tackles and Assists- 48
Missed Tackles- 5
Stops- 21
Targets- 23
Receptions- 13
NFL QB Rating throwing at NA- 114.8
INT- 0
Pass Defended- 2
TDs Allowed- 2
by StevenKerwood on Jan 4, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder what kurt coleman stats look like
by Bleeding_Green_Eagle on Jan 4, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah well at least his ranking among safeties.
by Bleeding_Green_Eagle on Jan 4, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Sure
What would really help people to become informed would be if you could post the stats of all Safeties in the league, so that we can learn who is good and who is not. That’s the only way to know.
let me see
I dont think I can
Im ask pro football focus on twitter if I can post everything because you have to pay for it
by StevenKerwood on Jan 4, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
For Asante and Nnamdi haters
No CB gave up less yards per times they were in coverage than the Jaguars Derek Cox. Top 5 was Grimes, Samuel, Gamble and Asomugha
via PFF twitter
by StevenKerwood on Jan 4, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
HAve you ever played on a team?
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 4, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
yeh, why?
let me guess since Im not in the NFL I couldnt imagine what BDawk brings to the table
by StevenKerwood on Jan 4, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
You’re ignoring it
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 4, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Leadership!
Motivator!
Intensity!
Where do they show up on the stat sheet?
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 4, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Im talking about FOOTBALL and what he does on the field not his personality traits!!
by StevenKerwood on Jan 4, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
You should probably just stop now, before you make a fool of yourself
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 4, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Leadership
You talk about leadership like someone says hey im the leader
anybody can be a leader its getting ppl to follow you is the hard part!!
by StevenKerwood on Jan 4, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
smh….
If you have no clue, you shouldnt speak
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 4, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Let me try to understand
you judge players on their personality traits not what they do on the NFL field?
by StevenKerwood on Jan 4, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
same place they show up for Tebow
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by StevenKerwood on Jan 4, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
are followers not as important as the leader?
if no1 follows who leads?
are you from the city or suburbs?
by StevenKerwood on Jan 4, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
/WIP’d
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by philiafan14364 on Jan 4, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Brian Dawkins’ best attributes don’t show up now that he’s 38…
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Allen v Dawkins
Strictly 2011 season Im talking about
When it comes to Dawkins career Nate Allen shouldnt even be mentioned in comparison!
by StevenKerwood on Jan 4, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I know. That’s what I was saying. We’re thinking of Dawkins in his prime… not what he is now.
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Lets B Serious
You really dont know what hes like soo stop the BS until your in the locker room and let me know stop acting like you do
2nd hes such a good motivator he motivated the Broncos into running a 3 Saftey Set to help cover up his pass coverage kinda like the Pats used to do
hes a great Eagle and all that but stop with all the soap opera stufff making him good this isnt ESPN!
so if Dawkins was our S instead of Nate Allen we would of won?
by StevenKerwood on Jan 4, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
What was he gonna do?
Get the offense not to turn the ball over?
I dont think so.
Off Topic
Celek had surgery for a sports hernia and a torn hip labrum. That man was playing extremely well through some pain folks
Shady is the man.
Celek had a good year
I wont say hes not good because of
Leadership!
Motivator!
Intensity
by StevenKerwood on Jan 4, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Should of drafted Taylor Mays
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 4, 2012 3:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Shut it.
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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Jan 5, 2012 8:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I like
Coleman way better than Allen. Coleman will have a better career than Allen.
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Good
I have stuck with this kid while a majority of fans talked shit. He’s my Nxt jersey if he continues to improve. Not sure Wuts ahead for my DeSean jersey.
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