The Linc - The Kickoff Rule Had A Big Effect
Kickoff rule change has big effect on NFL - Stats & Info Blog - ESPN
Touchbacks skyrocketed to 43.5 percent this season, more than two and a half times last year’s rate of 16.4 percent. Did the rule change deprive fans of excitement? From a numbers standpoint, the answer is yes. Nine kickoffs were returned for a touchdown in 2011, compared to 23 in 2010.
Mathis To Reid Haters: "You’re An Idiot"
"If you wanted Andy Reid gone, you’re an idiot," said left guard Evan Mathis on Twitter.
Keeping Reid right choice for Eagles -- because no replacement's better - NFL - CBSSports.com News, Rumors, Scores, Stats, Fantasy Advice
Eagles coach Andy Reid had a tough year, not producing with a club loaded with hype and expectation. Clark Judge says that while Reid and the club largely failed, Jeff Lurie does the right thing by keeping a proven winner.
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The one thing that Lurie did shed light on during his press conference were the two different sides of Andy, the one we see in the press conferences is not the real Andy. Does anybody buy that ?
On whether the fan fatigue surrounding coach Reid and the team factored into his decision: “I think you do factor that in. You’re a football team that has lots of incredible fans, passionate fan base and I think you do factor that in, that there’s sometimes disenchantment with a coach over a long period of time. I think you factor it in, but you have to put it in the right perspective. One of the very sort of disconnected aspects of Andy Reid and he’s a, as you all know, a pretty interesting guy, but when you’re trying to communicate the way Andy does where the first priority is protecting the players, managing their egos, trying to get ready for a football game the next Sunday and replying to questions from a game that just happened, you’re not really getting the Andy Reid that I’m evaluating. And unfortunately, that’s a disconnect because the fans are getting the Andy Reid that is communicating in a press conference. They’re getting the Andy Reid who’s whole priority is to defend and keep a very close circle in terms of what he does managing his players and his coaches, it’s one of the reasons he’s loved so much around the league and by his team. It’s a tough media market, it’s a big market; when you can sacrifice your own popularity for your players, believe me it wins a locker room for a long, long time. And that’s what he accomplishes, but he loses his ability to communicate the way he does with all of us; he may one-on-one with you guys. But that’s what I face as the owner. I have a coach that handles press conferences and communicates with the media in a way that’s incredibly protective of his team and that creates a tremendous unselfishness on his part because he’s going to suffer in popularity, that’s the dynamic here. We all have to realize it. I think it’s one of the reasons why he’s been so successful, but it’s sometimes frustrating, and you know I can use a line of Andy’s and say Andy’s got to do a better job of that.”
And he elaborates further:
On why he permits coach Reid to be arrogant and dismissive to media and fans: “I think it’s a legitimate question, but to describe it as arrogant is completely wrong; it’s protective and there’s a difference how you interpret protectiveness. You can convert it to arrogance if you misjudge it. There’s no arrogance in this man. One of the analysis I do when I meet with Andy for multiple times in the last month and I do it every year is how humble he is and how self-critical he is and that goes into my analysis. So you’re dealing with a completely non-arrogant man who blames himself for a lot of the troubles with the team but at the same time can openly talk to me about each player and each strengths and weaknesses that you can’t talk to the press about. So that’s what our experience is. And I sometimes do feel bad as an organization that that gets presented in a way that never would be interpreted as arrogant because I don’t think you’re ever going to meet a head coach who’s any less arrogant than Andy Reid.”
What’s your take, do you buy this ?
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by Dr. PHILadelphia on Jan 4, 2012 6:19 AM EST reply actions
I agree and always thought that he was being protective
I’m not sure he will ever put it all together to win a SB but he is a good coach. He’s not a great one based on his inability to make in game changes.
At least one more year of Andy and Juan. If they don't win it all they both better be gone!
by MightyJoeBanner on Jan 4, 2012 7:51 AM EST up reply actions
That has always been my opinion of Andy
Andy can be a little stubborn from time to time, but I wouldn’t call him arrogant.
I think the gentleman who works with Andy on a daily basis is a better judge of his character than the gentleman watching him on TV during games and pressers.
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by ChaosOnion on Jan 4, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 4, 2012 12:48 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I never cared about that
Frankly, I thought it was silly that the media was basically complaining to the owner that Reid doesn’t answer their questions enough.
IT’s not important. It’s a peripheral issue. We only care about Andy in press conferences when the team loses because we’re angry.
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“If you wanted Andy Reid gone, you’re an idiot,” said left guard Evan Mathis on Twitter.
So what percentage of BGN are comprised of idiots lol.
Also, that cheerleader pic is divine.
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Bill Parcels, Mike Ditka and Tony Dungy etc were not above being fired and they all won SB’s FOR THOSE TEAMS. Does that mean they were bad coaches? Lost their coaching ability? Their team didn’t appreciate them? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO. It means things got stale and changes were needed to further progress. Because of Vick Andy needed to stay. Because there aren’t any proven coaches to step in Andy needed to stay. Because we just threw everything on the line and a new coach would prolong this team getting on the same page Andy needed to stay. Next year is a different story.
At least one more year of Andy and Juan. If they don't win it all they both better be gone!
by MightyJoeBanner on Jan 4, 2012 7:57 AM EST up reply actions
Personally, I’m convinced “things got stale” is a bad inexcusably horrible reason to fire a coach. That sort of reasoning tells me that it’s not a football decision, but a decision based on the fans being tired of a guy and getting up in arms about it. I’m not convinced Parcells, Ditka, or Dungy was fired for that particular reason, but if one of them was, it was a bad idea. Actually, I’m fully convinced that trading an entire draft for Gruden was a bad idea… but sometimes you get lucky and bad ideas work out okay. Doesn’t make them good ideas.
Out of those guys, only Ditka was fired.
Parcells retired after his stint with the Giants. He resigned from the Patriots job, retired from the Jets, and retired from the Cowboys.
Dungy was fired from the Bucs (didn’t win a SB there, Gruden won it the next year) and retired from the Colts.
Ditka was fired after a 5-11 season, and it was 7 seasons or so after he won the Super Bowl.
But I agree that Andy gets one more year. And even though he somewhat denied it, I think that it’s Super Bowl or bust for Andy’s coaching career in Philly in 2012.
Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
1 out of 3 ain't bad?
Bill Parcels, Mike Ditka and Tony Dungy etc were not above being fired and they all won SB’s FOR THOSE TEAMS.
As wildcatlh said, Parcels and Dungy retired. Not the same thing as being fired.
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That is a cool pic
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 4, 2012 8:48 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I do not know. She has a kinda thing going on there on here neck. I know its all the flesh being flung to one side, but I am getting this image of Courtney Cox when she wore that fat suit in Friends.
It is mildly disturbing…
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haha
I see what you’re saying. The photo is too small on my iPhone
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 4, 2012 12:49 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
To get the full effect, Mathis should have spelled it “your an idiot”…
Oh boy, is this great!
by MayIhave10,000marblesplease? on Jan 4, 2012 7:22 AM EST reply actions
haha
Just like many on here are guilty of doing all the time
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 4, 2012 8:42 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Think about this:
many on this blog pat themselves on the back for being among the ( if not #1) smartest fan bases in the NFL.
I think it’s funny, and we should be able to laugh at ourselves over it.
just got a new phone
And the sb nation app! Not sure if I like it yet. Guess it will take some getting used to.
On subject though I certainly believe that Andy is different when not in front of the media. Just like many people can act differently when in situations they might not like or be comfortable in. I like Andy as a person and as a coach. He just needs to learn to adapt to situations a little better on and off the field.
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 4, 2012 8:45 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Great article bt CBS sports pointing out how mediocre Gruden and Fisher have been since their SuperBowl appearances, and on Cowher’s multiple losing seasons. Lots of revisionist history going on around here. Fisher and Gruden are that fool’s gold Lurie loves to mention. They ain’t Belichick or Dungy. They’re not even Sean Payton.
by ghostofandrewatters on Jan 4, 2012 8:54 AM EST reply actions
This
Glad to see so many reasonable posters in this thread. Bringing back Andy was definitely the right move, whether he’s “the best” or not. Because the alternatives right now are not doing it for me, and Reid deserves one more year to see if this particular formula of players they put together before last season has the spark that both he and Lurie seem to think they might. It needs a full year, that much is for certain. After 2012, then decisions can be reflected on.
They’re not even Sean Payton.
Payton/Tomlin/McCarthy is the prototype I want the Eagles to go for when they finally do move on from Reid. I’m not interested in a retread. I want a relatively young, hungry and capable up-and-comer. That’s what is more likely to breathes life into a stale franchise it seems.
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The problem there is that an up-and-comer is also pretty likely to fall on his face and get fired 4 years later.
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by philiafan14364 on Jan 4, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Sure.
But who says you don’t run that risk with a retread? Shanahan isn’t exactly tearing it up in Washington for example. An older, accomplished coach might not feel the same passion to put everything into winning a SB (or another SB).
Aside from the Patriots, which successful teams are playing for a retread coach? I guess you could throw the Giants in there since Coughlin was a retread from Jacksonville (after being a head coach in college). Denver may be in the playoffs, but I’m not sure “successful” can be applied to them just yet.
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Payton, Tomlin and McCarthy
don’t have enough in common to be lumped together as “prototype”.
The 1 thing they definitely share is being HC for a SB winner, thus they would be retreads, IMO.
They were all relatively young assistants that were not prior NFL headcoaches when they got headcoaching gigs.
That is what I meant by “prototype”. I am very aware that they are all very different as coaches. And I’m not suggesting we should bring in any of them (not that that is even a remote possibility).
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I love Evan Mathis. Bringing him back next year has to be a priority.
Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
definitely
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 4, 2012 12:51 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
i kind of dont like evan mathis
as a person, that is. as a player i guess he’s pretty good. i dunno, this is the second time he’s called a portion of us “idiots”. i kind of take offense to that..
Only because.......
the term Jackasses would have been frowned upon.
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by JJeaglerooter on Jan 4, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
A portion of Eagles fans are idiots.
Statistically that’s just a fact.
And think about it: you work for someone who makes you a priority (when you are at your best) while also being among the best at what he does. Thousands of people that know your boss solely through a third-party (media) are saying he is incompetent, lousy, shitty, out-of-touch and/or should be fired. You think you might take some offense at that? I bet you would. If the players didn’t have Reid’s back, we wouldn’t be having this discussion because he would have been fired already.
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thats true that he is protecting his coach. but i dont like the “team vs the fans” attitude…
the way i see it, they should win a playoff game or two to shut us up. if they cant do that, then guess what, they suck. it’s very simple — if they continue to fail, they’ll get boo’ed, and they’ll probably lose their jobs unless they please the fans by winning. calling us idiots wont please the fans…
Playing in Philly is often automatically a "team vs. fans" situation.
Any amount of failure is met with harsh and swift criticism. I don’t think that’s a bad thing, but from a team perspective it probably seems as though the fans can often be as much of an opponent as the other teams.
I think it’s also worth noting that Mathis played for the Bengals. He may be coming from a position where he is saying, “I know what it’s like to have bad coaching and Andy Reid is not bad coaching.”
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the way i see it, they should win a playoff game or two to shut us up. if they cant do that, then guess what, they suck.
If you don’t like being told that you are an idiot, then express yourself more intelligently.
If you can, that is. I don’t want to put too much pressure on you.
hahahaha
umm i never said i wanted andy fired. so therefore, whats-his-name wasnt talking about me.
oh sorry i didnt capitalize and/or use proper punctuation.
maybe so. but why should i like him? he’s not making a fan out of me by calling us idiots. he doesnt know how knowledgeable we are..
I don't mind the new kickoff rule...
big kickoff returns are rare and usually get called back by penalty anyway.
But what makes it crazy is that returners are stubbornly trying to keep themselves involved in the game by returning kicks from deep in the endzone and usually getting tackled inside the 15. It’s so freaking annoying when Dion Lewis does that.
Does anyone have the stats for average starting field position? I really feel like the average for the Eagles was inside the 20 this season.
The Kickoff is one of the worst rules implemented recently by the NFL. It made kickoffs boring. Commercial. Kick. Touchback. Commercial.
They need to either put it back to the 30 or just give the ball on the 20 every time now.
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Flyers: On a nice roll
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I loathe the commercial-touchback sandwich… but it wasn’t much better in past years. Big kickoff returns were always rare, even before the rule change. The sheer number of commercials and the redundancy drive me nuts. Is seeing the same stupid Lexus commercial for the 7th time really going to get more people to buy it if they weren’t already?
Btw
Lexus is going bankrupt. Nobody in America can afford to buy them and the rest of the world doesn’t want them. ( source: road and track)
by Saidrick on Jan 4, 2012 12:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Saab too
The article was written by Sam Mitanni or Calvin Kim. They usually cover the Asian car manufacturers .
by Saidrick on Jan 4, 2012 12:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah
People live Lexus in this country. High quality machines. They aren’t going bankrupt anytime soon
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