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Lurie: Reid And Roseman Will Return

Although there was never any real doubt that Andy Reid would be back, Eagles owner Jeff Lurie confirmed that both he and GM Howie Roseman would return for 2012.

Lurie said that it didn't mean he was satisfied with the season and that he expressed his anger and disappointment to Reid "very directly."

"There's no legitimate excuse. This team was too talented. This team was poised to succeed in a big way. and there's no legitimate excuses to be 8-8 when you're starting out with a team that is theoretically better than the one last year that was 10-6 ans won the NFC East"

Lurie did not address any other staffing changes (ie Juan Castiilo) and would say only that Andy Reid has final say on all of his assistants and Lurie would never try to tell him otherwise. He was complimentary of Castillo, but didn't exactly deny that he may have been in over his head.

"Anyone who's known Juan Castillo knows he's an incredibly impressive man. Was he put into a tough situation early? Tough to say."

And again, he said that these are decisions that are up to Andy, but I thought this was an interesting quote.

"Andy Reid has never been afraid to make change, something uncommon among head coaches."

He was pretty candid with his disappointment in the season and for those worrying that the ownership would see these last four wins as a sign of something positive... worry no more. Lurie recognized that they did not play great teams and that the last stretch didn't really prove anything.

To hold onto the last four games against non-playoff teams as hope would be "fool's gold."

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Well of course they will. Glad to hear it.

RIP Patrice O'Neal

by Ichiban on Jan 3, 2012 3:07 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

IMO

It sounds like Andy is going to fire Juan.

I'm great like Gatsby.

by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 3:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I was just about to type that.

You can tell even if Lurie didnt say it directly.

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by FloridaEagle on Jan 3, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

If he was staying Lurie would have said.

I'm great like Gatsby.

by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 3:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No he wouldn't

He’d say exactly what he did. Andy makes all of his own staffing decisions.

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by JasonB on Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

But he did talk about how he's had long discussions with Andy

And how Andy knows that he’s made some big mistakes
And that the last 4 games don’t really prove anything.

I also got the impression that the decision has been made to fire Juan, but that it wasn’t Lurie’s place to reveal it.

by deg0ey on Jan 3, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

“I also got the impression that the decision has been made to fire Juan, but that it wasn’t Lurie’s place to reveal it.”

Well, that could be true as well.

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by JasonB on Jan 3, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah even if there was some agreement to fire Castillo I don’t think that it is Lurie’s style to announce it.

Go Eagles!

by MRPH on Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not. And it shouldn’t be.

See: Jones, Jerry

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yep. I’d much rather have Lurie as an owner than Jones.

Go Eagles!

by MRPH on Jan 3, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

That dude is delusional

Saying that hiring a GM would complicate the process. SMH

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by FloridaEagle on Jan 3, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Well he is right. It would complicate the process. His process.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it would complicate it for him, lol. As an Eagles fan I heart Jerry.

Go Eagles!

by MRPH on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea

I love it. It doesnt bother one bit hahaha

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by FloridaEagle on Jan 3, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

More like his pride won’t let him.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s ego, not pride.

Go Eagles!

by MRPH on Jan 3, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

So would I. I think there is something to be said for people who think things through as opposed to being irrational and delusional.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It sounds like Lurie is pissed.

He mentioned the blown 4th quarter leads multiple times. IMO it sounds like he’s upset with the defense, but maybe I’m just reading to much into it.

I'm great like Gatsby.

by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 3:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I didn't get that

He said that Andy’s staff is Andy’s pick. It’s that simple.

Whether or not they do fire him remains to be seen, but I wouldn’t take this as a signal.

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by JasonB on Jan 3, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

IDK

Maybe Im looking too deep into stuff that isnt there.

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by FloridaEagle on Jan 3, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

IN this case I think so

We have to remember the dynamics of this organization. Lurie is a hands off guy. I don’t think he would want to appear to be making a decision for the coach.

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by JasonB on Jan 3, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, why fire him. He seems to be a good O-Line coach, I recall him being a TE coach. Perhaps he just gets reassigned to the Offensive side of the ball again. With the lockout, this was a terrible year to install a new defense and an entirely green (NPI) coach to the role of DC. I don’t think there’s any way he stays in that role. That said, it’s also not entirely his fault that the Linebackers are crap.

by Cormican on Jan 4, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

and

Spags will be joining them right?? :D

by Eagles swag on Jan 3, 2012 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Castillo goes if Spags joins

There you have it, no Spags and Castillo stays, Spags says yes Castillo is back to offense or an assistant on defense. We all know Andy has man love for Castillo so he will have a job with the birds next year…..

by QuillGordon on Jan 3, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t know that I have ever seen a guy hold a 40 minute press conference to say that as of yet nothing has changed but that the season was unacceptable.

Seemed to me like Lurie felt like he had to justify it all to the media and the fans.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

“Seemed to me like Lurie felt like he had to justify it all to the media and the fans.”

Well, yeah.

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by JasonB on Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

But he really didn’t have to. Reid is under contract and that’s all he really had to say. He doesn’t owe justification to anyone.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure he does. He’s got paying customers.

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by JasonB on Jan 3, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

And a media that has the same customers.

Eagles: Season, but they'll be back with a vengeance next year. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Looking to next year

by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Paying customers that will keep showing up whether Andy is the coach or not.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Paying customers that might buy a bit more team gear or consider going to more games if they are satisfied with how the organization is being run.
Don’t you think jersey sales spiked during training camp and preseason?

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by Rabbit T on Jan 3, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

My God, I listened to that Missinelli idiot on Mike & Mike. Makes me glad I don’t live in Philly to pick up the station.

by Cormican on Jan 4, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

COMPLETELY AGREED!!!
Don’t know that I have ever seen a guy hold a 40 minute press conference to say that as of yet nothing has changed but that the season was unacceptable.

Seemed to me like Lurie felt like he had to justify it all to the media and the fans.

WHAT A F@CKIN WASTE OF 40 MINS. HE IS JUST ABOUT COMMITTED TO WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP AS TEBOW IS TO THE CHURCH OF SATAN! BULLSHIT LURIE, BULLSHIT!!!

by timiglide on Jan 3, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting that Desean wasnt mentioned.

I thought he was going to be mentioned either by Lurie or by one of the reporters.

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by FloridaEagle on Jan 3, 2012 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

I think they were told beforehand

That he wasn’t going to discuss player transactions because it’s not what he does.

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by JasonB on Jan 3, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

He was mentioned in the post presser interview. Lurie said he would welcome Desean back if the numbers work.

by Route36 on Jan 3, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Good

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by abains007 on Jan 3, 2012 3:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Appropriate for a CEO. Support the decision making of your coach or fire him. There is no room for micro-managing in an NFL lockerroom

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by NJBammer on Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

That was the most pointless shit ever.

He takes the entire team to task talking about how there are no excuses, how it was unacceptable and how it was the most disappointing year ever in his tenure as the owner of the Eagles and then he changes nothing. Nobody is held accountable, he just maintains the status quo.

But it really did sound like he was going to drop a bomb for a couple minutes there.

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by d-jackfan10 on Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

i thought he was gonna drop the axe on juan

especially after he talked about the last 4 games not proving anything

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

yea when he was saying the win streak didn’t make up for the slop that we saw before then i actually started to think Reid was done

by G31 on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Not his place to do so

and the bottom line is he has faith in AR, and if AR has faith in JC, then it really doesn’t matter what the rest of us think, does it?

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by NJBammer on Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn’t pointless. He needed to stop the questions of Reid’s tenure. He not only said he would be back, but went into why. He said he was horribly disappointed- but that also doesn’t mean making rash decisions that might make things worse.

I was quite impressed.

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by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Also quite impressed. We Eagles fans are lucky to have such a man for CEO. Realist, to the point in these press conferences, doesn’t micro-manage.

by Wokjab on Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Case in Point: Jerry Jones

by MidnightGreenGunner on Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Listening to the way he was talking, someone is gone. I’m not sure if I’m reading into it too much, but the way he was talking about the leads being blown, and how the last month wasn’t reflective of a whole body of work (i.e. beating a bunch of teams with bad records), someone is getting fired.

by MidnightGreenGunner on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Some Juan, me thinks

Lurie is just going to make Andy the official ax-wielder

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by Rabbit T on Jan 3, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do people think..

…that holding someone accountable means firing them? Is that the extent of the thought process for some people? Maclin dropped some passes… fire him! See how that doesn’t work?

by EagleinDC on Jan 3, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Um

Maclin has much more experience at his position. And I am pretty sure we would have to pay maclin whether we keep him or not. Juan on the other hand I don’t think is guaranteed anything.

by Saidrick on Jan 3, 2012 4:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

juan's on his way out or being demoted

even if laurie said it’s up to andy he clearly stated his displeasure with the defense blowing those leads and he even brought up the fact that those last 4 games were against “not very competitive” teams

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

Yes!!!

I’m glad Reid is staying! Let him finish the job!

by G00SE on Jan 3, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

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Well that worked out great

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You'll never be at peace, like the souls of child molestors I'll cut you and bless your festering wounds with alcohol This is the final call, for all the rappers that wanna brawl Immortal Technique, the wrong motherfucker to diss
'Cause I allow God to let you motherfuckers existI got a Black Panther mentality with a spic fist You don't want beef with people like me so don't pretend
I'll resurrect your aborted baby and kill it again You get no props in hip-hop like feminine men You ain't hardcore, I'll smack the shit out of your mother You wanna be gutter? I'll leave you laid out in the street Signed yours truly, the motherfucking Immortal Technique

by So. Cal Swag on Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

HE was asked about DeSean Jackson

He said that if things work out financially he is optimistic DeSean will return next year and that he was impressed with him at the end of the year.

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by JasonB on Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

you typed that while listening?

you posted it before he even finished spitting it out

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That conference was just about selling Reid being back again.
The fact he said Andy is the least arrogant person he knows had me shaking my head.
Once again more accountability with zero action taking .

by Easedel on Jan 3, 2012 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

Why would the truth lead you to shaking your head?

If accountability means the team will be worse, what’s the point?

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by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I do think changes are coming

Whether it’s the changes we want is the question. You can’t go “all-in”, go 8-8 and missing the playoffs without some accountability occuring and changes made.

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by FloridaEagle on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Hoepfully

because if the last four games don’t make up for the first half of season disaster then Juan should go. He even said we beat crap teams in those 4.

by G31 on Jan 3, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Andy definitely comes off as arrogant in press conferences but I think it’s because he is just socially awkward and not because he actually is arrogant.

Ponder this for a second, athletes are universally seen as the most arrogant and ego driven guys in the planet, and yet by all accounts 99% of them love playing for and want to play for Reid. I would think that wouldn’t be the case if Reid were indeed arrogant.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think it’s also because he keeps the internal stuff internal ….. probably why the players like him.

Go Eagles!

by MRPH on Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely. And that’s not the mark of an arrogant person at all.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

he is just socially awkward and not because he actually is arrogant

Exactly, and I think Dom Brown suffers from that too.

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by philiafan14364 on Jan 3, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely

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by kmrblue1027 on Jan 3, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Reid is accountable to Lurie only….

by Labah on Jan 3, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s why BGN has the best coverage around!

by Wokjab on Jan 3, 2012 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

I hope this idiom is in your head because you recently watched the movie “Warrior”

that movie was sick

by smeagle on Jan 3, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Sigh.

While I am in no way surprised, I am disappointed (again). I think I’ll send Mr. Lurie an Oxford Dictionary so he can look up the definition of insanity.

by michellemtsu on Jan 3, 2012 3:15 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

He’s well aware of it. He quoted it after years ago after the season ended.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he was using the Webster’s dictionary. Everyone knows the English are better at this whole “English language” thing! ;-)

by michellemtsu on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

See what I mean?

adjective
in a state of mind which prevents normal perception, behaviour, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill:
“he had gone insane”

(of an action or quality) characterized or caused by madness:
“his eyes were glowing with insane fury”

extremely annoyed:
“a fly whose buzzing had been driving me insane”

extremely foolish; irrational:
“she had an insane desire to giggle”

by waterfield on Jan 4, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

we all knew this was what he was gonna say

N the more I hear about spats coming to philly the less likely I think it becomes true. It all has this gruden to become eagles hc vibe

I had alien women suck me off when god said let there be light i turned it the fuck off I'll leave your body drenched in the blood of all your ancestors
You'll never be at peace, like the souls of child molestors I'll cut you and bless your festering wounds with alcohol This is the final call, for all the rappers that wanna brawl Immortal Technique, the wrong motherfucker to diss
'Cause I allow God to let you motherfuckers existI got a Black Panther mentality with a spic fist You don't want beef with people like me so don't pretend
I'll resurrect your aborted baby and kill it again You get no props in hip-hop like feminine men You ain't hardcore, I'll smack the shit out of your mother You wanna be gutter? I'll leave you laid out in the street Signed yours truly, the motherfucking Immortal Technique

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It’s going to be uploaded on PE.com


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

You would know, wouldn’t you haha.

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by immynimmy on Jan 3, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Wondering out loud here: What kind of accountability will there be for this season?

If we made the playoffs last year, and fired our DC and defensive staff… what are we going to see happen in a year where we did even worse?

Is it really possible we go into next season with the same team? (Obviously there will be player changes, but I’m talking FO/coaching staff.)


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

Simply put

I will not be surprised if Juan is fired and I will not be surprised if Juan is retained.

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by FloridaEagle on Jan 3, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like Sumith agrees with me:

There must be some accountability for this season. Reid, Banner, Roseman, Mudd, and Washburn are all coming back. That leaves only juan man.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone has to be the fall guy.

I'm great like Gatsby.

by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 3:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well there has to be, right? How do you have an “unacceptable” season and then plan to go into next season without making any changes, all the while expecting different (meaning: better) results?


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think so. For instance, Reid has two years left on his contract, it certainly sounded to me like Reid has to make the playoffs next year or he is done. That to me sounds like accountability, even if it doesn’t end with someone being fired.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

If they weren’t good enough for the playoffs this year, what’s going to change to significantly make them better to make the playoffs next year?

And how do you sell to the fans the idea of no changes after a season like this?


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

If they weren’t good enough for the playoffs this year, what’s going to change to significantly make them better to make the playoffs next year?

They went 5-1 in their division and had the same record as the team who won the division.

To me, that means that there doesn’t need to be that significant of a change for them to make the playoffs.

But Lurie did say that making the playoffs was not enough for this team.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

But you have to look at what I originally said -

There big changes last year after a season that was better than this season. How do you really expect NO changes with an even worse year?


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That depends on how much stock Andy or Lurie put into the lack of a proper off season. I’m not making excused, just putting that out there.

I don’t disagree with you for what it’s worse. I just don’t think that a firing is the only way to show that something is unacceptable.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn’t even have to be a firing. It could be something like demoting Juan and hiring Spags, or just hiring Spags as assistant to Juan. I just don’t see how there wouldn’t be ANY kind of significant change.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

spags won’t come here to be an assistant, unless he doesn’t get any other offers because of how bad his HC stint was but to his defense the rams lack so much talent on d its unfair to even judge him by their numbers.

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, you don’t know that. I see what you’re thinking: he won’t come here and accept a lowly assistant job when he could be a DC (or HC maybe) elsewhere. The incentive to being an assistant here would be being next-in-line for the HC job here should Andy’s spot become vacant.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm this is true

but i doubt laurie would go with spags as a HC after his terrible run with the rams but maybe things can change in 2 seasons

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

He doesn’t necessarily have to do that, though. It can just be a selling point for him to come here. He could be hired elsewhere if he does a good job here.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Umm Giants

are 9-7 right?

ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th

Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT

Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by EagleEyes on Jan 3, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

No he is right, 8-8. That was my mistake.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow I did it again. I was wrong, the Giants were 9-7, but either way the point remains, it wasn’t like the Eagles were that far off from winning the division, in terms of record at least.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

If it was 8-8, we’d be in the playoffs right now since we had the tiebreaker over them. It’s 9-7.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

they beat the Jets

I know in our heads they were supposed to loose but that isnt how it went. 9-7

ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th

Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT

Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
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by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by EagleEyes on Jan 3, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, there's a draft and a free agency between now and next season

If we can patch up the obvious holes on defense (LB) and stop with the stupid turnovers on offense (which firing Juan won’t solve anyway) then the team would be good enough to make it to the playoffs next year.

I don’t see why anyone should need to ‘sell’ that to the fans; makes perfect sense to me

by deg0ey on Jan 3, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

(Obviously there will be player changes, but I’m talking FO/coaching staff.)


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Im neutral on Juan

Regardless the turnovers have to stop. No matter who the DC was, he wasn’t going to succeed at the rate the Eagles were turning the ball over.

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by FloridaEagle on Jan 3, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, turnovers are a huge problem, but not the only problem.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

How do you think that problem gets fixed?


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Put the players in a better position to execute. Whatever the hell that means anymore.

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That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't know; it's not my job to figure that out

But I’m pretty sure that firing Andy, Roseman and Juan wouldn’t have done it.

by deg0ey on Jan 3, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t necessarily disagree. I was asking that question genuinely to see if you had any thoughts on the matter.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Apologies for my facetious response...

I’m just kinda hoping that if Vick gets a full offseason to practice with the rest of the guys then he’ll be able to keep the turnovers to a minimum. Not the greatest plan, but the best I can think of at this point.

by deg0ey on Jan 3, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Turnovers are the biggest problem.

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by JasonB on Jan 3, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

And how do you think that problem gets fixed?


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Cut all the players? A coaching change won’t help turnovers.

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by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Once again, I’m not saying that’s what has to be done; I’m genuinely wondering how that problem gets fixed. It’s hard for me to believe we lead in the league in turnovers due to being severely unlucky.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I know, I don’t know how you fix it either. It is worrying to hear some players say that turnovers just happen. They do, but be responsible about them too.

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by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s hard for me to believe we lead in the league in turnovers due to being severely unlucky.

Well without that awful luck we certainly would not have lead the league in turnovers, but they still would have been a problem.

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by Ed Van Chimp on Jan 4, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

what’s going to change to significantly make them better to make the playoffs next year?

turnovers

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by philiafan14364 on Jan 3, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

So they went into this season without trying to prevent turnovers? What’s going to the change the amount of turnovers? (Seriously, I don’t know how you fix that.)


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I just think they got pretty unlucky with a lot of them, and hopefully that will change next year.

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by philiafan14364 on Jan 3, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

While I do think some of them were unlucky, I don’t think you lead the league in turnovers by being unlucky.

For example, some of them were bad play calls. IE: Pulling with Kyle DeVan on the goal line leaving Vick exposed to be tackled as he’s handing the ball off.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Well certainly some of them were deserved, Vick had a least a couple of wtf throws, but I don’t think they were careless enough with the ball to lead the league in them. And if just a few of them hadn’t resulted in turnovers, I think this teams in the playoffs.

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by philiafan14364 on Jan 3, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

And if just a few of them hadn’t resulted in turnovers, I think this teams in the playoffs.

Probably true, but then they get smoked when they play GB or NO.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, I don’t know, after all, this team was constructed to stop those 2 teams.

I’m not saying we would definitely win those games, but I think it would at least be competitive.

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by philiafan14364 on Jan 3, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean like during the Patriots game?


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 4, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Well hopefully Vince Young and Riley Cooper wouldn’t be in the starting lineup.

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by philiafan14364 on Jan 4, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

How is making the playoffs good enough to keep your job anymore, Reid has done that plenty of times in the 14 years he’s been here. It has to be a superbowl this year anything else is just same old results. We haven’t won a playoff game since the Giants game in ‘09. Anything other than a championship is a failure now, frankly I think this year should have been it for Reid he hasn’t built on his success in the ‘08-’09 season. All we’ve done is steadily decline and finally missed the playoffs. This really should have been the end for Reid.

by fhqwagads on Jan 3, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

At some point, I think there has to be a “Win the Superbowl or You’re Fired” moment in the Andy Reid era, whether that’s ever spoken between Reid and Lurie or is just a thought in Lurie’s head.

I completely appreciate that he built a quality organization and I have confidence that the Eagles will make the playoffs more often than not, but where I don’t have confidence is in what they’ll do once they get there.

Reid’s philosophy is to build a strong organization that is in the mix every year, since winning the Superbowl requires some lucky breaks, too, so you keep your team in position to be the team that peaks at the right time or gets those breaks.

The thing is though, he’s had enough chances that it seemed like the Eagles would have been that team by now. We probably thought it was them after the Giants game last year, but of course lost to the team that actually did peak at the right time.

Reid’s theory can never be proven wrong as long as he’s coach, but when does Lurie have enough evidence against it? I would suggest he already does.

I’ve explained my own philosophy on the fire Reid debate by citing the inconsistency of Andy Reid’s Eagles within each season, evidenced by the random awful games against mediocre to bad teams that the Eagles have each season. The Raiders game in ’08. The Jacksonville, Tampa, Tennessee games in 06, the AZ game this year. Those games count. Win against those bad teams in 06 and the Eagles play the Saints outside in the cold, perhaps. Beat AZ this year and the Eagles are probably in the playoffs this year.

We know, under Reid that the Eagles over several years will consistently win the division or wild card. But within a season, we have no idea of which Eagles team will show up each week. Does that sound like a Super Bowl Champion? Do we really think the Eagles can play 3 or 4 very good games against very good to great opponents to win the Super bowl? I sure don’t.

by BrianS on Jan 3, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

If we can go 10-6 and fire our DC, the. If we go 8-8 there has to be some changes and if it’s not Andy it has to be Juan. Especially if Lurie is upset with the blown leads and doesn’t put much stock in the final 4 games of the season. I don’t think he told Andy to fire Juan but he probably strongly recommended it.

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by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That assumes that the difference in record was because the D got worse

If you look at the numbers, our D is better this year in pretty much every category than last year. The O on the other hand is worse in pretty much every category.

Not saying it would be the wrong decision to fire Juan, just that the record is not necessarily the reason to do it.

by deg0ey on Jan 3, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

on one hand i like that reid is back

But I have this growing part of me that is curious what a new coach can do with this team.

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by So. Cal Swag on Jan 3, 2012 3:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

This season is unacceptable and yet Lurie has accepted it. No consequences or accountability make it acceptable. That press conference was just lip service. Nothing will ever change. Andy Reid is coach for life.

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by d-jackfan10 on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

you people calling for andy's head are rediculous

i’m just as pissed off as the next guy that we didn’t make the playoffs this season but did you forget who built this talented team? Who took us to the playoffs 9/12 seasons he’s been here, or who turned this god awful franchise around after a miserable 90s? Common now we’ve been spoiled with a winning tradition for the last decade,went to the big game once and and multiple NFC title games. Would you rather have one of the browns 10 coaches in the same time period? some of the shit people say about andy is ridiculous, and they really need to look back on before he got here

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re content to just have winning seasons? That’s cool, I think the ultimate goal is to win a championship and odds are that Andy Reid isn’t going to do that for us. We’ve hit a plateau and I think we need a new voice to take us to the next level, to exceed our current level.

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by d-jackfan10 on Jan 3, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

i like your point of view

it’s different than people bashing Andy abd saying how much he sucks. He’s done so much for this franchise and people just seem to look past it like it was nothing. I wouldn’t say I’m content with just winning seasons but i will say that I enjoy the winning seasons and I enjoy being able to say “Wow, I’m glad my team doesn’t suck that bad, it would be terrible to know we’re doomed before preseason” you know where i’m comin from?

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I get it.

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by d-jackfan10 on Jan 3, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

yet Lurie has accepted it

Where do you get that. Had he not had a PC, you could say that maybe, but the fact that he said something about it publicly clearly means he wasn’t happy about it.

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by immynimmy on Jan 3, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

he also stated how upset he was by teh defensive side of the ball and how the last 4 games didn’t mean much because the teams weren’t real contenders

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Not only were they not contenders, he actually said…

We proved we could dominate the last four games of the year against teams that werent competitive.

It’s nice to have an owner that actually understands football.

by Route36 on Jan 3, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

thats the phrase i was looking for but contenders came to thought first lol. but yes, it is a nice luxury having a passionate owner. if Andy wasn’t the coach that he has proven to be, I’m sure he would have been fired after starting 1-5.

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m REALLY glad he knows this. Thank you Jeff Lurie for vindicating my POV on this issue!

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by d-jackfan10 on Jan 3, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. That was good to hear.

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by JasonB on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

While I agree with much of what he said, they weren’t competitive overall, but they weren’t the Colts or the Rams. They came in hot.

I think it says more that we did dominate them- it means Juan is on the right track.

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by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

And yet he did nothing to change it.

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by d-jackfan10 on Jan 3, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...

He didn’t fire the coach. We can’t say he did “nothing” yet.

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by JasonB on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Well… He kept the “Big 3” in place. Juan is just a side-show.

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by d-jackfan10 on Jan 3, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he believes the pieces in place are better than the alternatives, and actually sees a strong future with them? D-Jackfan10 you seem to want blood for blood’s sake alone.

by EagleinDC on Jan 3, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I just think that a new voice, a new process and a new way of doing things could do good things for this team. That’s all.

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by d-jackfan10 on Jan 3, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

it could just as easily spell disaster

seems like an unreasonable risk to take when we’re so close.

by smeagle on Jan 3, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

How do you feel so close? When’s the last time we won a playoff game? 3 years ago…1 and done 2 years in a row got shut out by the cowboys in 09 week 17 then blown out the following week. Lost our chance against the lowly Vikings to earn a No.2 seed in the postseason and then lose to the Packers. Then what? We go 8-8 and miss the playoffs. Sure doesn’t feel like we’re heading in the right direction, that Seahawks game reeked of failure and was the final straw for me.

by fhqwagads on Jan 3, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

it isn't just about wins

I like the way the team is developing. We lose McNabb and Westbrook, but we get Vick and Shady. Our corners start to fade, and now we (currently) have 3 probowlers. Our lines have improved, especially our D line. Our line coaches have been upgraded.

I dunno man, I’m a fan. I like the direction the team is trying to head in. I also understood before the season that this was basically a rebuilding year, despite all the talent that was brought in.

by smeagle on Jan 3, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with Smeags

The team could’ve started falling off in a serious way, but instead it seems like they’re correcting before a big run.

by EagleinDC on Jan 3, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the problem here:

Delusion. We’re not close, we’re not close at all. Did you see us get ripped apart at the seems by the New England Patriots? Did you miss us collapse against the Falcons and 49ers? We’ve beaten one playoff team this year (the Giants). We’re not close.

It could be a disaster or it could pay off big time, that’s a risk that I am willing to take and that I hope Lurie is willing to take at some point. You don’t win the Superbowl by playing it safe and playing “averages”. I think that after 13 years, Andy Reid has grown stale and that it’s time for a new voice to command this team.

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by d-jackfan10 on Jan 3, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

We are close. Just one more game, and we’re in the playoffs. With a full offseason and some upgrades, this team can compete against the Patriots and Packers. Especially if the offense can stop turning the ball over.

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by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

We are close. Just one more game, and we’re in the playoffs.

Only then to get smoked by GB or NO.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

This year. I believe next year will be different. You don’t know who’s going to be good. Who’s going to be injured. Things change quickly in this league.

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by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by d-jackfan10 on Jan 3, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Get you a new team then

We are a offseason and a couple of players away,and a lucky break or two,you should watch a game without drinking,maybe youll see it.

by Mrrc7 on Jan 4, 2012 4:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The problem is that the voices available out there are pretty weak voices right now, and some of the coaches out there which are now thought of as “winners” took longer to get there than Reid has had with the Eagles. Reid may not ever get the ring – in fact, the Eagles may not ever get the ring period! The SuperBowl is not some thing you just determine to do and go out and get. Beyond needing to be a good team, you need luck.

Look at Green Bay. We could easily have beaten them last year on a single play, and then suddenly they’re not returning champs.

I like that Reid produces winning football teams. I like that teams are afraid to play the Eagles. I am content with making the playoffs each yea, and certainly I would love to win the SuperBowl, but until someone says, “replace Reid with this guy here,” and we can evaluate who that guy is, why would I want to change things up just out of frustration? Look at the pathetic revolving door of coaches and staff some franchises in this league have. That is not for me. I rather have respect and pride in my team than constantly be agitating for a ring and ready to throw it all away to get one.

by EagleinDC on Jan 3, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem is that the voices available out there are pretty weak voices right now,

The voices that we know of maybe. And this is an argument that I see all the time and I don’t understand it. I am not calling you out, just the thought process. Defenders always point to the lack of other well known or obvious candidates out there as a reason to stay the course but a guy like Mike McCarthy has to get his start somewhere.

For the record, before being the Packers coach McCarthy was the OC for the Niners for one year. That season the Niners had the 3rd worst offense in the league.

Clearly McCarthy is an outlier and not the expectation but there are guys out there, we just may not know who they are. It’s also possible that someone who has sucked can be good in a different situation.

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by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Completely

But how do you evaluate that? I mean yes, the coaching talent is going to be out there – but can Lurie take that chance with this franchise when everyone is ready to take to the streets with pitchforks and torches? Forget that I like Reid – it’s just the case that winning franchises don’t go the “newcomer” route after a pattern of success has been established. Green Bay was an unusual case where there seemed to be a breakdown occuring at the higher levels of the organization when McCarthy was brought in. I’ll note also that Reid was the newcomer choice when the Eagles were at the bottom of the bottom.

by EagleinDC on Jan 3, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Let’s wait for the Castillo decision.

by Route36 on Jan 3, 2012 5:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Regardless of any of this, I hope Andy isn’t allowed to draft anymore, especially defensive talent. When you have to go out and add NA, DRC, Babin and Jenkins to your defense it’s because you generally suck at finding the right guys through the draft.

At least Reid mastered the art of The Challenge this year, maybe next year it will be clock management.

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by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

but you have a point about drafting defense

The only defensive starter drafted by the Eagles that is proven is Trent Cole…Mike Patterson is solid too but 2/11 is horrible

by G31 on Jan 3, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what you have

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by JasonB on Jan 3, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Since 2002...

The Eagles have drafted ONE defensive player who’s made the Pro Bowl (or, really, has been worth a damn), and that’s Trent Cole. Coming out of college he was an undersized OLB/DE (6-2, 236 when measured at the Combine) who was thought would only have a chance to succeed in the NFL as an edge rusher in a 3-4. The Eagles took him in the fifth round because of his college production, upside, and “motor” (gee, sounds familiar). Remember, while Cole had an immediate impact his first season (46 tackles, 5 sacks), it wasn’t until he beefed up (listed at 270 now) that he started to become the player he is today.

Anyway, until this franchise gets better at drafting defensive players, it’ll be stuck in neutral (or going in reverse).

by thehorah on Jan 3, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, I knew that Reid would be back. As far as Juan goes, for the love of God please no.

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by macjack09 on Jan 3, 2012 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

What's the deal with Marty?

Any mention? Obviously Andy’s decision.

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by joetimek on Jan 3, 2012 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

i forgot all about him till now

i would like to see a change there but i would say he’s probably back.

by G31 on Jan 3, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Im pretty positive

that Marty is coming back.

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by FloridaEagle on Jan 3, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

might as well let him finish with andy. besides the turnovers our offense has been outstanding the past 2 seasons, i can’t see how people can be upset with him. Sure the ronnie brown call was retarded, but they did something right if we’re one of the best offenses in the league for multiple seasons.

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

oops and redzone offense

i guess that could be a strong argument, but that can be improved. i know it hasn’t been in years but they looked better in the red zone the last few weeks, granted the defenses we faced wern’t very good but if we have maclin healthy all season and celek playing a full season catching passes i bet those number improve durastically

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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

How does he call Asante a “me” ayer but doesn’t mention DeSean?

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Asante makes 11m a year. desean makes 600k

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Things I liked from the press conference:

1) Lurie mentioned that he goes to every practice, and he truly has never seen better practices or a group of players that meshed up as well with each other. It could be lip service, but it didn’t feel like it at all. You can tell Lurie takes the direction and condition of the team quite seriously, and I felt encouraged by what he was saying about the camaraderie amongst the guys. I also think that contrary to some others, they are going to try and keep DeSean if possible.

2) Lurie mentioned the advantages the Eagles have had in free agency, and how players want to play for the Eagles, and specifically, he called out Reid as a factor in that. I think Reid is a great coach, personally, that has done a ton of good for this franchise, and actually does make adjustments and takes losses on himself. You can see the improvements to the run game, and the improvements on throwing challenges.

3) I like how Lurie mentioned that despite the press, the fans, and the hype, he never felt that the team was SB ready this year. He was hopeful that the team would pick up the scheme changes a bit more quickly, but felt that we weren’t at Green Bay or New Orleans levels yet. He feels that the talent is there though.

Personally, I’m fairly excited about next year. I think the division will be tougher in 2012, which is unfortunate, as will the Eagles schedule overall. But if the Eagles push into the playoffs next year, it will be because they beat tougher teams than this year.

And, although I am on the keep Reid bandwagon anyway, I really felt that Lurie made the right case by highlighting that no NFC team has gone to the playoffs more often in recent history than the Eagles. I think fans take it for granted nowadays, and just bitch and whine. They can’t even say who they would want coaching instead, because they are not thinking into the future any farther than to voice their frustrations.

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by EagleinDC on Jan 3, 2012 3:36 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

couldn't agree more

especially with your last statement. people seem unappreciative of having a winning franchise to cheer on when they could be a browns fan or something who hasn’t found a qb or offense in general for 12 years with the exception of 1 10-6 season in which they got snubbed from the playoffs.

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I am. “who the hell is good in the nfl?!”

by TimmyGee on Jan 3, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Well even Lurie said the Packers and Saints are elite teams.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, it’s pretty funny.

by MidnightGreenGunner on Jan 3, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets just hope

If Jaun is fired. They don’t wait until the last minute to pick up another DC. Like they did last year.

by greenage on Jan 3, 2012 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

Congratulations, Jeffy. You just bought another load of bullshit from the world's fattest fertilizer salesman.

Way to take so long to say nothing, you pasty little pussy. Reid OWNS your ass. Because he has you figured. He knows that as long as the team stays competitive, you’ll keep his fuckin’ fat ass around. Another year of the same old bullshit and the same fucking Reid SYCOPHANTS regurgitating his “track record” on the rest of us whenever we dare to criticize that gaping asshole of a fat, arrogant cocksucker. Fuck Reid and fuck Lurie.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

Doesn't mean I'm wrong.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually that’s exactly what it means.

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by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would we gloat elsewhere except here?

Eagles: Season, but they'll be back with a vengeance next year. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Looking to next year

by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Fine. If you can gloat, I can gripe.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

sycophants. I like that word.

by TimmyGee on Jan 3, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It literally means "fig exposer"

In ancient Athens, there was an embargo against figs because Megara was a big producer of them, and Megara was at war with Athens at the time. So it was illegal to have figs. Had a grudge against someone? Accuse them of having figs at home, and you were a “fig exposer”. Funny how it developed into its modern meaning of false flatterer.

French fries are really Belgian, sausages and bagels have the same amount of protein, two countries' names mean "turkey", and Santa Claus was invented by the Coca-Cola company. Is life weird or what?

Debe ser verde y volante - Πράσινο και να πετάει - It's gotta be green and it's gotta fly!

by Rabbit T on Jan 3, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

+1 for the little history lesson. Learn something new everyday

by TimmyGee on Jan 3, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You a history major like me?

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

was

U of Washington class of 1994

French fries are really Belgian, sausages and bagels have the same amount of protein, two countries' names mean "turkey", and Santa Claus was invented by the Coca-Cola company. Is life weird or what?

Debe ser verde y volante - Πράσινο και να πετάει - It's gotta be green and it's gotta fly!

by Rabbit T on Jan 3, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Drew University, Class of 2007

American Studies, Civil War specifically. Bully for ya, mate.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah smart folks

so yall ,should be smart enough to relize that the rones who really have a problem with andy is the media ,they can’t pry info from him his s voice can’t be stale to the players most only beem here a couple seasons.

by Mrrc7 on Jan 4, 2012 4:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

this small a.. phone

Got me misspelling

by Mrrc7 on Jan 4, 2012 4:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey Jaws, who do you want for head coach? Just curious. Certainly you must have an opinion.

by EagleinDC on Jan 3, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Cowher, Fisher, I’d fucking take my Grandmammy at this point.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Well Cowher’s not an option, and Fisher has the entire NFL chasing him, so I guess it’s Reid or your grandmammy. And since you’d choose her, I think that shows how little thought you’ve actually put into it.

by EagleinDC on Jan 3, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Pardon me while I recover from the blow of your whipsaw wit.

And allow me to retort…(AHEM) Blow me.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds about on the level you’re operating on.

by EagleinDC on Jan 3, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh, so now we're doing the thing where you try to belittle my intellect? Because you know me so well, right?

I’m answering like that because I don’t know you, I don’t care about you, and the more I talk to you, I realize that I’m entreating with yet another redundant pile of protoplasm to whose opinion I give less thought than a morning dump. So say what you please.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Uh, I’ll say that for someone who just posted a bunch of words related to how little he cares about posting in response to me, uh… well you get the idea.

by EagleinDC on Jan 3, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Enlighten me.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

???

You keep posting in response. Either:

I don’t care about you, and the more I talk to you, I realize that I’m entreating with yet another redundant pile of protoplasm to whose opinion I give less thought than a morning dump.

…or, in fact you do feel compelled to keep responding. And after this most recent post of yours when the meaning of the above was clear, it’s most clearly the later.

by EagleinDC on Jan 3, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok fair

I disagree with you about Reid and his worth to the organization, but not trying to argue or start a fight. We’ll just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

by EagleinDC on Jan 3, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly think your grandmammy can change the culture of this team.

by TimmyGee on Jan 3, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

You're God-Damned Skippy she can. She's got balls like kettlebells.

They raise ’em right over in Kensington.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

She has balls? That helps explain a lot.

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 4:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You ever been to Kensington?

It’s where the men are men and so are the women.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 4:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

wtf?

so your one of those guys who didn’t like watching the eagles be near to top of the league the past 12 seasons? Would you rather have your favorite team not be “competitive”? What the fuck more could you ask for besides 8 playoff appearances and 5 NFC championship appearances? Ya we havn’t won the big on, but we haven’t exactly been a shitty team either. You need to appreciate our team wasn’t the 0-16 lions or decade of losing the browns have done since returning to the league.

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't tell me what I need to appreciate.

I’m not going to switch places with Cleveland fans or Detroit fans. Every year it’s the same thing and you guys just drink the Kool-Aid because you’re desensitized and complacent.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

He is, but never fear. We have won our last four games, so we got that going for us.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya Cullen Jenkins is a retard. KByars is out on the field all year, he knows.

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 4:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You need to be on the field to understand logical fallacies?

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
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by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe not. What logical fallacy?

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 4:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Winning meaningless games over bad teams to achieve a .500 record, means that all is well.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Andy's M.O.

is shining up shit and calling it gold.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know that anyone ever said all is well. Not even on this website. I see Lurie saying “by no means do the last 4 games change the work we have to do in the FO this offseason. Roseman and Reid gotta riz it now.” But it is good for the players and the locker room. Even Jenkins said, they had to learn how to win after being shown how.

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 4:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The locker room that’s now on vacation. Until next season.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Solid solid point. Marvelous.

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 4:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If this were a 20 game season, the last 4 games might count for a lot more, but the season is done.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Roughly 80 percent of that locker room will be back, though. Teammates in the offseason too, ya know.

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 4:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

There’s a big difference between continuity during a season and continuity between seasons.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

well either you believe that or you don’t. i strongly disagree.

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

And yet nobody is saying that. So that makes that a classic straw man logical fallacy. Good job!

Eagles: Season, but they'll be back with a vengeance next year. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Looking to next year

by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

So what exactly are you saying about it. Perhaps you could clarify.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

For the one millionth time:

Finish 8-8 isn’t good. It was a crappy season. But starting 8-4 and ended 8-8 is different that what happened to this team. Ask the Giants how finishing week feels.

And there is a large difference between 4-12 and 8-8. This team could have given up. It could’ve tanked it. But it didn’t. They fought for pride, each other, and their coach. It doesn’t mean 19-0 next year. It doesn’t guarantee a Super Bowl. But it sure as hell doesn’t hurt to see them fight, and I believe it will help them. They know they can’t get by on talent, they can’t just turn it on and everything will be fine. They tried that. They know they have to work hard, fight, and win every game. That’s an important lesson that this team learned the hard way.

Eagles: Season, but they'll be back with a vengeance next year. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Looking to next year

by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Please be realistic.

They’re an insanely talented team that didn’t give a shit for 12 games. Then they proceeded to beat up on four awful teams with awful quarterbacks. They easily could have gone 4-12. But they were pretty much done after the Patriots and Seahawks, so playing like they had nothing to lose became easy. Don’t get suckered in by those last four games, this team should have been playing like that long before.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Your point boils down to this,

They know they can’t get by on talent, they can’t just turn it on and everything will be fine. They tried that. They know they have to work hard, fight, and win every game. That’s an important lesson that this team learned the hard way.

That’s just spin. If the players had to learn that now, it’s not the sort of lesson that’s going to stick. If you’re a professional football player, and you didn’t all ready know that, there’s really not much hope for you.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

THIS

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Its not spin. Its human nature.

Eagles: Season, but they'll be back with a vengeance next year. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Looking to next year

by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

What?

The Curse of Lombardi
#TeamFireAndyReid
"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."

by d-jackfan10 on Jan 3, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I second your what?

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Its human nature to rest on your laurels. To think you don’t have to work hard. Sometimes people need reminded that they can’t just get by.

Eagles: Season, but they'll be back with a vengeance next year. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Looking to next year

by bdawk4ever on Jan 3, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, they do say

The further you are away from the ball, the less you know about the game. And fans do sit the furthest from the ball.

Of course, an offensive lineman came up with that one to grief on a wide receiver.

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by ChaosOnion on Jan 3, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

They also say, “You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.”

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

If it looks like shit, smells like shit, and feels like shit

you don’t have to eat it to know it’s shit.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

hes not the only one

he’s the one who built the team and has been winning consistently for a decade. So you just ignore the last decade because we lost to the eventual SB champions last year quarterbacked by the best in the business and our defense blew multiple leads this season and we had a bad year. Blame it all on Andy fuck it he doesn’t know shit about football. fuck it. you go out there and get the ring for us since its so fucking easy

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

False comparison. So you hang on to underwhelming or mediocre stocks in hopes they rebound?

by MG77 on Jan 3, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

This is what I am sayin'
wtf?
so your one of those guys who didn’t like watching the eagles be near to top of the league the past 12 seasons? Would you rather have your favorite team not be "competitive"? What the fuck more could you ask for besides 8 playoff appearances and 5 NFC championship appearances? Ya we havn’t won the big on, but we haven’t exactly been a shitty team either. You need to appreciate our team wasn’t the 0-16 lions or decade of losing the browns have done since returning to the league.

I would rather be the Tampa Bucs and suck for 10 seasons if it meant one Lombardi Trophy! 13 years of Mediocrity! You make the playoffs and fail to win it all, IMO you’re still a failure. Yes, I am that guy who would trade Reid’s entire tenure for one Championship Ring!!!

by timiglide on Jan 3, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol

I had alien women suck me off when god said let there be light i turned it the fuck off I'll leave your body drenched in the blood of all your ancestors
You'll never be at peace, like the souls of child molestors I'll cut you and bless your festering wounds with alcohol This is the final call, for all the rappers that wanna brawl Immortal Technique, the wrong motherfucker to diss
'Cause I allow God to let you motherfuckers existI got a Black Panther mentality with a spic fist You don't want beef with people like me so don't pretend
I'll resurrect your aborted baby and kill it again You get no props in hip-hop like feminine men You ain't hardcore, I'll smack the shit out of your mother You wanna be gutter? I'll leave you laid out in the street Signed yours truly, the motherfucking Immortal Technique

by So. Cal Swag on Jan 3, 2012 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This guy. When you own/manage/coach/assist/provide water for a team, you can show em how its done.

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

By that rationale, unless we're directly involved in the NFL, we have no opinion?

Or is it just that my opinion doesn’t coincide with yours?

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Bleediots thinks he’s hot shit.

The Curse of Lombardi
#TeamFireAndyReid
"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."

by d-jackfan10 on Jan 3, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

He is writing a Chappellesque satire as we speak. He must know something.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh you’re still waiting on that? My bad yo, lemme get back to it.

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 4:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

For someone who insists valid sports talk can only come from guys on the field, you sure do seem to be quite invested in this discussion.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Well by comparison to the man in the locker room of the team we follow. I thought I explained my point further, if you scroll up. Or we can do the cute jabs at each other too. That’s fun.

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 4:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well you’re dismissing things out of hand with the reasoning that CJ said something in an interview. So is there weight to any discussion that does not agree with a player’s interview?

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I only seem to dismiss as you dismiss. Somewhere up the page you brought up the win streak. 2 things I will do, defend Reid, and find value in winning games that are dubbed ‘pointless’.

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 5:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No, you were dismissing things that you disagreed with by using the rationale that those arguments weren’t coming from the players or coaches, therefore nuh-huh.

This guy. When you own/manage/coach/assist/provide water for a team, you can show em how its done.
Ya Cullen Jenkins is a retard. KByars is out on the field all year, he knows.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

if i must spell everything out.

it’s a blunt way of saying keep your vagina vinegar in it’s jar when you wanna criticize by using the same jar myself. you’re beating to death the 4 game win streak argument when i think maybe you don’t even know what the argument is. we talked about it already. i say it matters in the locker room to win, you say next year’s locker room is not the same.

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Pot, Kettle. And his whole ugly ass family. Again, you’re making WE look real good.

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 4:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ok let me rescind and say this… It’s too easy to demand for peoples’ heads. If life were like that, there would be no leadership, stability, order. If you’re unhappy that all the past seasons have failed to win a super bowl, that’s fair. But step far back and look at the grand scheme. There are literally hundreds of factors involved in a league that is strictly do or die. When you die, it can be long and harsh. I don’t want to compare us to the browns as much as I don’t to the steelers. Bc we are who we are, no one else. Fire reid, then what?

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 4:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Something else will happen, that much I can guarantee you.

But believe it or not, someday there WILL be life after Andy. No one said firing him was the whole solution, just part of it. Won’t be all sunshine and rainbows, but maybe some other coach can shake things up. That’s all I want, is for this team to try a different approach.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok fine. But I’ll say sorry, unless you answer my then what question differently, I’ll put my eggs in the Reid-sunshine-rainbow-hope basket. Especially with a roster on paper primed to do some damage.

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 4:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The roster is not the issue here, Dude!

Did you like my Walter Sobchak impression there? In response to “then what,” I’d say pursue Jeff Fisher. He’s defensive-minded and the Eagles’ former defensive coordinator (of that amazing Gang Green defense from 1988 to 1990). We have the talent on offense. Fisher could help make our defense a proud unit again. Who cares that the rest of the NFL would be after him, he’s been here before and I think he’d relish a shot at taking this team all the way.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

of course, that was my answer before Lurie said Reid will be back next season.

I guess it’s a moot point now.

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by jaws1385 on Jan 3, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i remember last year we had like 7 candidates to replace mcdermott. and they all signed elsewhere or kept their current jobs. not saying mcdermott is good, but trying to show it’s a tall order to replace someone like reid when nothing is guaranteed with his potential replacements

I like turtles.

by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

.

I'M GONNA TRIP BALLS!!! -Frank Reynolds

by Mapost1 on Jan 3, 2012 3:47 PM EST reply actions  

All I can think to say is horse pucky.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jan 3, 2012 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

Thought this was relevant:

Both with new defensive coordinators. @JonathanTamari For record, though, 06 Giants, 08 Saints went 8-8, won championships the next season.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 3, 2012 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

as you have said...

there is a fall guy…and that’s juan…

You can’t just fire a Rory Segrest again…(I know he was fired with Sean McD but still)

This is an important offseason, some needs to be the lamb.

Trevor Laws: "Thank Giants for kicking to (Desean)."
Mike Vick: "Why would they kick to Desean?"
Matt Dodge: "Snap too high!"
NJ Eagle: "Fly Eagles Fly!!!"

by NJEagle on Jan 3, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone think that marty may be gone?

i think i would like this a lot more than Juan gone.

by eagsfanMBG22 on Jan 3, 2012 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

why?

marty is a genius developing QBs and our offense has been one of the most explosive in the nfl in recent years. Our only fault is redzone execution and putting Chad Hall on the field in any situation

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

i just haven't been impressed with him for a long time.

There is a ton of talent on this team, and they are going to be successful at whatever they do. But, I just feel like they could of done more. I felt like the offense was more explosive last year than this year. I know we broke the record for most yards, but it could of been better.

Do you remember when Mudd was yelling at Marty on the sideline as we were blowing a lead? I took it to mean that Marty had been doing a shotty job for a while and Mudd finally snapped.

by eagsfanMBG22 on Jan 3, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

well

vick missed 2 games and maclin and desean were injured a lot. It just wasn’t a smooth season for us all around and the blown 4th quarter leads just seemed to save us the despair of having to wait til the end of the playoffs to realize we wern’t winning the sb

by phillyfan330 on Jan 3, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

honestly

if we can’t win with those injuries, we aren’t going to a super bowl. i’ll be honest. i don’t think that one player or two players in a game is an excuse for a loss.

by eagsfanMBG22 on Jan 3, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

No Reid is a genius developing QB's

Marty:
-has seemingly no intellect when it comes to running the ball or running situations (he ran the draw play to death)
-He throws screens to Celek,Maclin more than the more explosive jackson
-His in game adjustments need work
-Short yard situations need work
-Goalline playcalling is always like pulling teeth
Just too name a few, I too feel he should be let go. I actually feel loosing Chilly was on par with loosing Spags

ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th

Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT

Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by EagleEyes on Jan 3, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

If they could get both of these guys back....

Than this offense would probably be the best it could be….

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jan 4, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

valid points

i would have to agree with all of that, especially the screens to jackson but when you think about it theres atleast 4-6 eyes on jackson at all times so a wr screen to him would be hard to pull off. it’s badass in madden though

by phillyfan330 on Jan 4, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

only

if marty gets a head coaching job

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
R2C2!
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Jan 3, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's get Spags as the D Coord now.

"Remember, it's not over until the fat lady drops one."

by n0va on Jan 3, 2012 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

hahah spud just said “bitch” on here.

by eagsfanMBG22 on Jan 3, 2012 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

Spud is flipping out today

by TimmyGee on Jan 3, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

When is he not?

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by ChaosOnion on Jan 3, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he curses like a MOFO off the air — I heard him one time when I called in.

by Dallas Sucks! on Jan 3, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

True story…3 teams going to the playoffs had a – in the +/- turnover stat.

New Orleans – 4
Broncos – 11
Steeelers – 8

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Jan 3, 2012 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

When was the last time Lurie publically announced he was dissatified with the team?

Lurie just called the entire team, the entire organization, out on the carpet. Lurie is a business man and he does things in a more subtle manner than one might appreciate. He is not going to stand up there and speak like Rex Ryan or Lou down the street operating a jackhammer. Plainly put, he is not going to call a coach that helped him increase his franchise value by some $750M fat and dump him on the street.

A man like that does not use phrases like “there’s no legitimate excuse” or “fools gold” lightly. He is a cool and calculating executive. The most telling quote:

Andy Reid has never been afraid to make change, something uncommon among head coaches.

That means he knows something went wrong and he is telling Andy to fix it. When a man like that tells you to fix it, you fix it or he takes a few hours to be cold and calculating about your place in his organization.

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by ChaosOnion on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 PM EST reply actions  

It’s okay guys, AR is like the best 6-7th round drafter in history.

by Off_The_Hook on Jan 3, 2012 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

Except when Tom Brady was on the board

by TheAL76 on Jan 3, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

zing

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by ChaosOnion on Jan 3, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

thank you, thank you. I’m here till 5.

by TheAL76 on Jan 3, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

In his defense, he got McNabb a year before so he wasn’t looking for a QB.

by Off_The_Hook on Jan 3, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I couldn’t find time to get through and talk with Spuds on Eagles Live! and wanted to vent my opinions. Perhaps you guys can give me your own opinions — one of the major topics at the moment is bringing Spags to Philadelphia, right? If that happened, I certainly wouldn’t mind but I’m not that opposed to keeping Juan for another year. I feel that there were a number of reasons, just as Lurie mentioned in his PC, as to why this team has underachieved this year. We, as fans, are hungry for a superbowl and that’s understandably so. But the problem I run into every year with everyone is that people, fans in general, want to put a face to the reasons why we come up short. I think it’s unfair to isolate Juan in the sense that because he’s been an OL coach for so many years and had a horrendous 50-60% of the season as DC, we’re going to chase him out of Philadelphia with fire and pitchforks just to replace him with Spags (who’s really only proven himself as a great DC in NY for one year).

To be honest? The Eagles played great the last four weeks and I’ve heard excuses such as “Oh, well, it wasn’t like Juan was producing a scheme against Brady, Rodgers, or Brees.” That’s true, of course. But, if you don’t recall, we lost to teams such as the Cardinals and Seahawks (who are, IMO, on the same caliber if not a little worse than the teams we’ve played the last four weeks). So, it’s not as if it’s just been SUPERB teams that have been picking this defense apart for most of the season. As a fan, I think the pieces are starting to fall into place. I think when Washburn implemented his own DL scheme, new free agents were continuously signed, the offense committing a great amount of turnovers, and the lack of time Juan had to really evaluate his players strengths and weaknesses, it sort of put Juan behind the 8-ball and (call me crazy) I really do believe, with what has happened over the season, he did an okay job. I think consistency is a big component to winning championships and if you give Juan a full off season to improve his scheming and to work with his players on defense (not to mention upgrading the LB position), we may very well find ourselves with a decent product.

Overall, I say we should obviously see what’s out there and what potential defensive coordinators are willing to bring to this defense. But, I think our best shot is to continue to let Juan and this defense improve.

by Dallas Sucks! on Jan 3, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Just thought of this now

No mention of Banner?

French fries are really Belgian, sausages and bagels have the same amount of protein, two countries' names mean "turkey", and Santa Claus was invented by the Coca-Cola company. Is life weird or what?

Debe ser verde y volante - Πράσινο και να πετάει - It's gotta be green and it's gotta fly!

by Rabbit T on Jan 3, 2012 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

He isnt budging.

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Jan 3, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Natives are restless

Although I believe you would get a slight majority (just a slight one) of Eagles’ fans who would vote for Reid to be back next year. I would imagine you would find less support for Roseman even after just 2 years.

by MG77 on Jan 3, 2012 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

Castillo should at least be demoted

by jjhh05 on Jan 3, 2012 6:37 PM EST reply actions  

Bloodthirsty you guys are

"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Jan 3, 2012 6:41 PM EST reply actions  

HEY LURIE!

Show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser.

If you can accept losing, you can’t win.

~ V.LOMBARDI

by timiglide on Jan 3, 2012 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

LOL

“Reid still has that fire in his belly”

LOL what doesn’t he have in there?

Formerly number5
RIP JJ
"But for you to open your big fucking mouth and call Shady "overrated" makes me want to take my big cock and shut you up." - Brotherman initiates EB’s prison stay/Brotherman on getting his dick wet.

by HawaiianGreen on Jan 4, 2012 1:21 AM EST reply actions  

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