Cullen Jenkins Continues To Be A Voice Of Reason
by JasonB on Jan 3, 2012 1:00 PM EST
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PrintCullen Jenkins won a Super Bowl last year and he generally played a pretty high level this season so as we've said before, his words have weight. He's been remarkably honest and plain spoke this season, something you don't usually see from the tight lipped Eagles, and we've found it to be refreshing. His comments as he packed his locker for the offseason were just as candid as we've come to expect.
He says there were red flags early on this season and that team needed to learn how hard it is to get a Super Bowl.
"There were definitely red flags," said Jenkins. "A lot of people see Super Bowl, or I think they let the fact that the Super Bowl is there, and so many people talk about it right away. You can hear people nowadays, they come out of the draft talking about Super Bowl and I think it kind of gets thrown around too loosely now.
"It’s obviously the ultimate goal in where you want to get to, but you have to understand that you have to work hard. It’s something that is a process and you have to take it each step at a time to get to it and I think a lot of time people just want to jump from preseason to the Super Bowl without doing what it takes in between."
And while some have mocked the idea of the Eagles gaining "momentum" for next season, after the jump Jenkins calls it something else, confidence.
He says that the team learned that winning doesn't just happen.
"Everybody is real upbeat. Everybody believes that can play or we can beat anybody right now, and that’s the attitude that we’re supposed to have," said Jenkins. "And it’s not that same feeling that we had in training camp, where it was, oh because we have talented players, we should beat people. It’s oh, because we know how to play now. We know how to fight. We know how to go out there and impose your will on another team that can allow us to beat another team."
Another criticism that's been leveled at the Eagles in regards to their strong finish was that they didn't play good teams. But Jenkins, who would know, says that winning over anyone is a good sign. Plus, as he points out, they couldn't even beat bad teams early in the year.
"Once you get that confidence, whether you think it’s from a team that wasn’t as good or a team that was one of the top – once you get that rolling, it helps you out a lot," Jenkins said, recalling that the Eagles were beaten by John Skelton and Tarvaris Jackson.
"We had games this year where we’re going against offenses that weren’t as good, and they still did well against us. It’s still an accomplishment in itself to go take care of business, regardless of who it’s against."
The Eagles are one of the winningest franchises in the NFL over the past decade. Guys in the league are used to seeing them in the playoffs nearly every year. So you can see how all these new faces came to this team just expecting to win because it's the Eagles and usually they always do. From what Jenkins says, that seems to have been the feeling. But obviously that's not how it works. And this core does not have years and years of playoff appearances.
So while we're trying to decide what this four game winning streak to end the year meant, this just might be the positive to take from it. You'll hear some term it "momentum" but what it really can be is that the team learned how to win. They learned that winning isn't something you're entitled to in this league. They learned that past performance is no guarantee of future results.
Or at least that's what we hope they learned...
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One thing I can say
5-1 in the division this year will be a great confidence boost and swagger for next year. Division domination goes a long way.
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 3, 2012 1:11 PM EST reply actions
Confidence and swagger
if the players feel it, will be evident in the locker room and maybe on the practice field, if the Coaches nurse it.
Once they’re on the field, if an opposing player gets the best on a few plays, swagger, and unfortunately, for some, confidence will scurry away and hide.
If going 5-1 in the division one year meant an improvement the following year, the world would be a much different place. Much better for some; much worse for others.
A lot of people are trying to say the 4 game win streak isn’t as impressive for the D because of the offenses we played but like Cullen said we lost to John freaking Skelton plus here are the points the offenses averaged in the previous 5 game before we faced them Dolphins 28(10), Jets 25(19), Cowboys 25(7), Redskins 23(10)
The Legend
Yet
All those teams that came in “so hot” didn’t make the playoffs.. Stop sugarcoating mediocre teams, their stats, and their momentum coming in our games.
Here’s the real facts: When it counted, we didn’t get it done. That’s why we were 8-8.
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
Here’s the real facts: When it counted, we didn’t get it done. That’s why we were 8-8.
This IS what it comes down to….
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 3, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I mean these comments are comical
We beat 4 bad teams and the attitude and the tone that the fans have are a complete dichotomy of what they were when the Eagles were 4-8 .
Come on, Juan should not be back next season, we need to upgrade our line backers, Vick needs to be more careful with the ball and like MRPH said the team needs to play with a sense of urgency with each and every game.
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
I agree. I have given up on the thought that Reid will be leaving…..but Castillo has to go. Whether that will be Spags or not (all depends on which scheme they want to go with), I dont know. But Castillo’s lack experience will keep costing the Eagles games for more years to come. The risk of letting him “test it out” again next year is not worth it in my mind.
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 3, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
im not willing to risk another year with JC…. We have the talent to win now
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
I’ll take Cullen Jenkin’s word over yours. Above he talks about the wrong attitude they had in training camp: “…oh because we have talented players, we should beat people. …”
by Wokjab on Jan 3, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So… in all the years he has been playing organized football, he never learned that "…oh because we have talented players, we should beat people. …" is not the right attitude until ,…now?
I don’t believe he learned anything, and next year he might easily believe "…oh because we have talented players, we should beat people. …", or some other equally idiotic idea.
The tone isn’t the opposite of what it was. Its that it was a shitty season but there is hope. Not let’s blow it up.
Juan doesn’t need to go- if there wasn’t 37 turnovers, this team could be 10-6. Does that mean it was Super Bowl bound? No probably not.
But you can’t just ignore the 4 wins when other teams in similar situations just give up. This team fought.
Eagles: Season, but they'll be back with a vengeance next year. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Looking to next year
While I appreciate the media savvy cullen jenkins
I’m still not buying momentum or confidence. We had quite a few veteran guys who should have confidence every time they step on the field. Vick, Samuel, NA, Jenkins, Babin (two of those guys won a SB, 2 went to the NFC CG), Herremanes, Peters, Celek….
They are pro athletes not pop warner kids. I see beating the lowly redskins , the lowly Jets and the putrid Cowboys as having minimal effect carrying over into next year.
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
What I am hoping for is that they remember the 1-4 start, and realize that there needs to be a sense of urgency all year long. Every game counts, even the ones in September. It just seem to me that guys were just thinking that it would happen.
While it’s nice that we acquired some confidence going into next year I agree that it is no guarantee.
Go Eagles!
by MRPH on Jan 3, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. I definitely think the guys will have some pride out there
and will not want to repeat this disastrous season.
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
Well you would certainly know better than him.
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by Eaglesadvocate on Jan 3, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah don’t you know its so easy to play in the NFL..
I like turtles.
by Bleediots on Jan 3, 2012 1:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is that a serious comment?
If that’s what you got out of my comment you have some serious, serious reading comprehension issues. But I knew that from before
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
Please show me
Please show me a co-erlation that teams who ‘’finish strong’’ having a carry-over effect into next season.
Or do you really believe everything a player says to the media?
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
DETROIT
the lions finished on a 4 or 5 game win streak last year, and they started out 6-0 this year
That's 1
and I actually can name the Bengals in 2004 finished strong to have a good 2005 campaign.
and I don’t think the Lions had a 4-5 game win streak, they won a few, don’t think it was that much though.
However, I’m looking for a co-relation. Just because a few teams here and there have done it, does not make it a guarantee that it builds momentum.
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
and they went undefeated this past preseason I believe as well
I know it’s just preseason and it really doesn’t count. But it does show that it can carry over, maybe not every single time like Joe_D is looking for, but it can help.
Confidence can go a long way in any situation.
Just because a fewteams here and thereplayers on the team should havedone itconfidence, does not make it a guarantee thatit builds momentumthe whole team should have confidence.
Your narrative that we have enough “veteran guys that should have confidence” is just as absent of fact and “co-relation” as his regarding “strong finishes.”
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Do you really want to compare the eagles to a team that values linebackers?
by Saidrick on Jan 3, 2012 1:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why would Jenkins lie?
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by Eaglesadvocate on Jan 3, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
He's not lying per se
It’s just how you talk to the media.
He’s not going to say “nah, it don’t mean shit.” next question. He’s going to put a positive spin on everything, haven’t you listened to a presser before?
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
The Green Bay Packers finished pretty strong last year, despite being somewhat mediocre all year last year. They were pretty good in 2011.
Oh boy, is this great!
by MayIhave10,000marblesplease? on Jan 3, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
And yet the won
got confidence and look what it did for them. They had their backups gaining confidence and game experience and it went a long way.
We had a bunch of new pieces come in this year, they all had to learn a new defense. Once everyone started to get comfortable with it, things started to change. The defense has gotten better as the year went on. The offense can score points if Vick can stay healthy (SLIDE DAMN IT!!!!). The team is good and hopefully they can build off the end of the season.
“We had quite a few veteran guys who should have confidence every time they step on the field”
And we had a lot more guys who aren’t veterans. That was his whole point.
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Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
Before being drafted Quintin Demps says he was a Super bowl player
lol…………… trust actions, not words
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
Listen, if he says that the confidence from they way they finished will help them next season, why should I not believe them? Are you in the locker room? No, we are all monday morning quarterbacks.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
Because it doesnt work that way
Finishing strong doesn’t mean anything from next season to the next. There will be new players on this team next year. It’s like saying winning your pre season games will have a carry over effect it never does
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
Of course there will be new guys but the majority will still be here. If that is how the locker room feels then why not believe them? And your point about pre-season is stupid. At least our starters were playing to end the season.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
Here's why you should not believe him:
HE CAN NOT PREDICT THE FUTURE!
Maybe he’s sorry for losing so often this year, and no doubt he would rather win, but that’s about it.
Keep posting,
you’re one of the few people making sense.
Myths I hate
1) The final game was meaningless: It was not to me and not to the players who put their lives on the line – it was only meaningless to those for whom winning a Superbowl is the only thing with meaning and you really can’t argue with those people.
2) We beat 4 bad teams – these are teams which other than when playing us looked pretty good. If dallas had gone 2-0 against us they would be considered dark horses for making the Superbowl. The Jets had gone 3-0 before we blew them out of the water. Had Maimi beaten us they would have finished the season 7-2 after starting 0-7.
Of course, Washington still sucks, but before we shut them down to 10 points, they had scored 24, 23, 19, 27, 23, and 26 – our D really had their number this year.
"Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body."
― Seneca
Dark horses into the SB LOL!!!!
Come on man, allow me to cover up my spleen before it shoots out of my body from laughing so hard.
Did you watch the Jets vs the Giants or the Cowboys play the Giants? Did you watch the Jets crash and burn in their final game as well? These are not myths, these are bad teams, they didn’t make the playoffs FOR A REASON!!!!
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
Sir
the Cowboys were actually quite a good team in the second half of the year, except for the games they played us and the final game of the season. If they had beaten the Eagles twice, they would have been resting their starters against the Giants.
As I said, the same Jets you mock went 3-0 in the month preceding their tilt against us. Furthermore, we didn’t just go 4-0 against these teams, we demolished them, with no score being closer than 13 points, and the average margin of victory being almost 20. That is a sign of a really quality team, not just a team coasting along with a few narrow victories against bad teams.
"Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body."
― Seneca
9-7. Nothing good follows that record. You’re the laughing stock of the play offs and the cow pies didn’t even make the play offs.
Well I guess if you wanted to get technical you could claim you finished above five hundred.
by Saidrick on Jan 3, 2012 1:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You are using useless stats to skew your view point
None of those teams are in the playoffs, even when they had winnable games that would’ve featured their teams in the dance.
You can say WSH put up 20+ pts in 3 games before us, but they are still a 5-11 team. They aren’t very good. They were without Santanna Moss, Fred Davis and Chris Cooley by far and large their most potent offensive talent…
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
its not that they put up 20 ppg. its the fact that they put up 20 ppg and we held them to 10 is what he is trying to stress here. it doesnt matter who you are playing in this case. your opponent averages X amount of points offensively per game. If your defense can hold them to half that (in most of the other cases, less than half), you are doing something right.
by RogerPodacter on Jan 3, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
There is no use
arguing with a demagogue.
"Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body."
― Seneca
Moss played.
I know that because he dropped a sure TD pass that hit him in the hands; vs Cromartie.
They were not "quite a good team" when they let the Giants receivers run free all over the field against them in their early 37-34 loss
They didn’t get blown out because the Giants D was also an abomination.
I AGREE mostly wit this except 1 thing
Just that, watching that game, it was almost as frustrating as the 1st game against the “lowly rams”. I mean at times they were really eating huge chunks of yardage and could have easily gotten more points then they did. Moss was beating our guys for several key downs. But One time we got lucky and the ball hit the defender in the back of the head when he was that close to being penalized..hwever only for the ball to being deflected in the area where Nate Allen could show off his athletiscm and hands to make a beautiful dive and catch for the INT. Another play Moss clearly beat Cromartie but at the last minute was distracted by Cromarties waving arms and missed an easy TD in the endzone. Then theres the blocked kick..So, in the end, at least 10 points were left on the feild. Secondary was beat a lil bit, but hey you could say be held a Redskins team that scored 27 against the Pats. :::Shrugs::
eh
Your nitpicking a bit here. Cromartie had moss locked down. Not one time was he open deep. Drc ran with him all game. He played well.
by PhilsForever on Jan 3, 2012 8:23 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
You are mistaken, with all due respect.
Moss got behind Cromartie, who played “trail” coverage. Cromartie put his hand up, good for him, he gave it all he could, but the ball hit Moss in the hands at or near the goal line. TD.
The announcer said Moss catches that most of the time. He also said should Moss have caught that? Yes.
I guess you just don’t remember that one, oh well.
Eagle fans are the most knowledgeable, right?
Dear mr. Jenkins
You are mistaken: taking care of business is NOT an accomplishment in of itself. If I go to work everyday and do my job, I am taking care of business. If I do more than my job, or I do it really wel, that is an accomplishment.
by Saidrick on Jan 3, 2012 1:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
is beating an opposing team not doing one’s job really well? Also, anyone else tired of people comparing their normal jobs to those in the NFL?
Apples and oranges to sat the LEAST
Beating a good team is doing ones job well. Beating redskins not so much. Unless its the early nineties.
And last I checked if I don’t do my job I get fired . If an nfl player doesn’t do his job he gets released.
So based on semantics I am comparing apples to oranges.
by Saidrick on Jan 3, 2012 2:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Doing your job well
doesn’t depend on how hard the work is. Whether you close out a multi-million dollar deal with a major corporation or you make great coffee for the boss, you are still doing your job well. The complexity of the job your doing doesn’t matter, it’s the way in which you do it that matters
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
thusly
we did our job well in those last four games, regardless of level of competition.
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
You do realize
The Redskins swept THE NFC CHAMPION NYG. the same team that beat the Eagles at home. I WAS as dissappointed as everyone else until I realized something about this season. 5 of the Eagles 8 losses were not on the Defense they were on the offense for not scoring ONE MORE TD. Just one more TD in 15:00 minutes would have beaten the Falcons, 49ers, Bills, Bears, and Cardinals. Thats 13-3 with a first round bye. Hell, If the Eagles had TACKLED in the first Giants game that’s 14-2. I know " if if was a fifth". This team has talent that needed to gel, it geled late and they are out of the playoffs.
I would love to blow up Texas Stadium... With team still in it
36 plus years of rooting for the Eagles I think are comming to fruition this year.
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You do realize
the Giants were a mediocre team also.
Of the first 12 games,Eagles won:
30-13
20-13
34-7
17-10
Eagles lost (* = 4th Q collapse):
31-35*
16-29*
23-24*
24-31
24-30*
17-21*
20-38
14-31
Last 4 games:
26-10
45-19
20-7
34-10
They were 8-8 because they couldn’t win enough games that were up for grabs in the 4th Q.
The way I remember it, sometimes it was the offense, more often the defense.
I think the game in East Rutherford was the best, contested effort all year. The Eagles did not beat 1 good team all year.
I'm pretty sure
that nobody is saying we’re good to go next year and will easily be an elite team just because we ended the season on a winning streak. But is there significance in the team playing cohesively and consistently for four straight weeks when they hadn’t been able to do it for two all season? Yes.
Sure changes still need to be made, but the last four games say just as much about the team as some of the previous losses did. 8-8 is much different than 4-12 or something.
Absolutely right
Both are out of the play offs but one team gets to draft much higher than the other team.
by Saidrick on Jan 3, 2012 1:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
draft draft draft
how is it that teams like carolina get great draft picks every year and still suck
and teams like new england draft low constantly, yet have been the most successful team of the last decade? You put too much stock in draft ranking.
Jamarcus Russel was a #1 pick
Tom Brady was #199
Wow
You compare the worst run team to the best run team, way to keep it realistic.
by Saidrick on Jan 3, 2012 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But seriously
The lions and niners have had a decade of high draft picks and they’re both in the play offs. And Alex smith was also a number one overall pick, wasn’t Matt stafford a number obe overall pick too.
by Saidrick on Jan 3, 2012 2:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But but seriously...
Your telling me you’d trade a decade of horrible performances for one playoff appearance? You’d take an 0-16 season for a single playoff appearance where you might get bounced in the first round?
Alex smith was a 1st round pick….IN 2006! His recorded an amazing 1TD to 11int in his rookie season. He missed half his second season, and his entire third season. He missed another half season in 2010, and is finally finding success in 2011 under a scheme that minimizes the amount of work he has to do.
is that the magical 1st rounder your looking for?
Those teams suffered from historically bad coaches
But they drafted pretty well. We have A good coach but have drafted low for awhile now. Since Fat ass is not leaving anytime soon, we need higher draft picks to get over the one and done hump
by Saidrick on Jan 3, 2012 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
drafted pretty well?
Have you heard of a guy named matt millen that destroyed any hope the lions had of succeeding for multiple seasons? Taking a WR first round 3 years in a row does not mean you drafted well. Joey Harrington was not a great draft pick. If you keep stockpiling top 5 picks you should do at least slightly better pretty quickly, and they did not. How is that drafting well?
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by layout ultimate on Jan 3, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Thats exactly the point!
A well run team can take any pick and turn them into something useful. A badly run team fails every year while praying for a magical god-like draft pick to lift them from obscurity.
You want something more realistic?
2003 NFL draft
- Philadelphia Eagles – Jerome McDougle
- Pittsburgh Steelers – Troy Polamalu
auto formating fail
that is supposed to read
- and #17
As MRPH stated
No one seemed to quit on Reid. That’s really the only guranteed thing we can take from this
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
And I hated stating that because Reid really pissed me off this year. But I’ll give him credit for that one.
Go Eagles!
Everyone bashes him for his pressers (which are meaningless anyway)
but he doesn’t disrespect his players and in return his players keep fighting for him
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
Well with me it’s really not the pressers. He’s been like that since day 1. And even the game management stuff didn’t get me. I think that giving the impression of being all in (yeah it’s wasn’t all him but he is in charge) then making your OL coach your DC and not addressing the LB position among other things. Mixed signals.
I was ready for Reid to go now I am not as sure but am leaning that way. The fact that the team didn’t quit (forget the 4 wins, they didn’t quit was what was important) helps his cause. Maybe if he gave up some control. GDDMN we need to draft some defensive players.
Go Eagles!
It's been that way with Reid since day 1.
It’s a part of his MO.
His Nov and Dec record is very good. It probably just boils down to players and coaches on other teams slacking off.
Compare it to fishing. Reid is fishing for wins. Nov and Dec brings more easy pickings.
Players on other teams are discouraged, they don’t feel gung ho in the least. They care incrementally less what the coaches say or think. Off-season pussy is calling to them. Whole lot of shit going on.
Reid recruits players that can focus on what he is putting out and, for the most part, respond like adults. It’s a great formula, up to a point.
IMO, just work a little harder on defense next year. Apply what you’ve learned. Simplify the schemes at least to the point that the players you put out there are relaxed and confident enough to have a “kick some ass” attitude instead of feeling and playing as if they are lost.
And do what you can to get your QB to work with the OL and not against it. Make that your fucking target, and hit it.
It builds confidence in your players
who cares about what everybody else thinks. It also builds confidence in other players that may want to come here via free agency.
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
The only thing to take from those 4 Magical, Glorious wins vs those 4 inferior teams is that the Eagles didn't quit.
As insipid as those games were, I’d rather rewatch them than if the team had quit and failed.
Going to the playoffs last season didn’t seem to do much for teaching this season’s team how to win, but going 8-8 by beating 4 weak teams at the year’s end will?
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 3, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Cullen Jenkins said it built confidence
So therefore it will.. Believe everything you hear in a presser
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
how could winning four straight games to end the season
not build confidence? Use your brain. If you really sucked at a sport when you first start playing it your confidence would be shot, but as you improved and starting beating your competition would it not in turn boost your confidence level?
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Let me tell you how it could not build confidence.
The players with enough smarts to know ( most players, I think ) know that they beat 4 shitty teams. The ones that are too stupid to realize it have what is colloquially called " false confidence". Not the same as realistic, contactful confidence.
Give that they didn’t win two of the games that mattered, you could argue that the carry over was destined to be bad.
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Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Looking to next year
To say that we beat 4 weak teams is unfair...
no matter how “weak” they were, the Cowboys and Giants and Jets were all still vying for a playoff spot and had everything to play for. Now the win against the Redskins, I think that game was over after the first half. Everyone on the Redskins gave up. That is not momentum.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 1:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
You mean the Dolphins, Seahawks, etc...
Very disappointing losses to teams that we are better than (talent-wise)
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
BUT ...
We played them before they were eliminated and were on the verge of being eliminated.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You have the games mixed up.
Miami-6-10
NYJ-8-8 (free fall over last 3 games )
Cboys-8-8 ( no reason to play game )
’Skins-5-11
Not one good team.
love, love, love
Cullen Jenkins. Best pickup of the offseason. Exactly the kind of veteran presence we need in the locker room. I agree 100%. Don’t underestimate the power of confidence. WIth enough confidence even the biggest nerd can land a dime piece.
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i.e
the Eagles landing the lomabardi
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Reid Resigns as Coach.
Goes to the Front Office.
Thoughts?
I could see it happening.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Ive thought about that for a while now ... and think that is his ultimate landing spot.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
I could see him stepping down in the future and taking a GM spot.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 2:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, but would you like that?
French fries are really Belgian, sausages and bagels have the same amount of protein, two countries' names mean "turkey", and Santa Claus was invented by the Coca-Cola company. Is life weird or what?
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i think we should have a lurie press conference open thread
Anyone agree???
by VRFC8 on Jan 3, 2012 2:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
yes!!!
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
They keep bringing up the DJax contract ... this presser is NOT going to address that.
That is not usually the owners deal.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
UGH!!! my cellphone doesnt have enough signal to get the video to stream uninterrupted.
I am only getting some words here and there.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
me too
It doesn’t have the ability to play the plugin straight from the site. I couldn’t even watch it.
by sandiegoeaglesfan on Jan 3, 2012 3:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
YES!!
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think momentum is the wrong word, but maybe confidence. And not confidence of themselves, but about their teammates. About the coaches. About the scheme. That’s important to learn- especially at a time when everything seems dire.
That will help next year. Will it mean 19-0? Will it mean a championship? No that’s stupid to think that. What it does mean is that they have a much better chance then if they went out on a low note. They know that if they work hard and fight, good things can happen.
Eagles: Season, but they'll be back with a vengeance next year. #KeepAndyReid
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Phillies: Looking to next year
I had no idea all of those wr's
were going to be free agents. Id take any of those guys Dave just mentioned
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Over DeSean? Most are old guys!
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
true
they are older but can still play at a high level. I would much prefer desean but if it does come down to one of those other guys I wouldn’t be too disappointed.
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Dwayne Bowe?
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 2:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
UGH !!!! What is he saying!!!!
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
This season was unacceptable, and he is disappointed, but as of now, nothing is changing coaching wise.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
HE said "no coaching changes?!?!"
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
he has not said anything about that yet
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
you can always watch the replay later
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
at least he's honest
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from what im hearing …. he is making a case for getting rid of andy?
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
sounds like it
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
that would be insane
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
It sounds like he’s been reading BGN. He came with counter-arguments prepared.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
holy shit!
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I can't get a read on him
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Two things:
No thread for the presser
And sanu is entering the draft.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 2:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Just f*cking say it Lurie. One way or the other, just say it.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
RIGHT!!!!
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
even I'm intrigued...
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Julio Jones,
not to be confused with Julius Jones.
Andy is staying
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Andy is staying
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 2:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
most definitely
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
I was nervous for a second!
Eagles: Season, but they'll be back with a vengeance next year. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Looking to next year
me too my friend
me too
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
intangibles
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
dear god jeff make up your mind
Oh wait here we go….
by VRFC8 on Jan 3, 2012 2:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It's all about the intangibles...
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 2:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
ANDY!!!!!!!!
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
Great Decision Jeff!
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it was the smart thing.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think he knows what he wants to do
by VRFC8 on Jan 3, 2012 2:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Juan decision left up to andy
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He is not going to address Juan?!?!?!
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
Reid will make the judgement on Juan...
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 2:50 PM EST reply actions
Sounds like Juan is gone.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 2:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Howie is not going anywhere.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
he should
Unless he really nails some defensive picks this yr.
by VRFC8 on Jan 3, 2012 2:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
should go or stay?!?!
There is no question in my mind that the moves he made in this past offseason were nothing short of miraculous. He stays.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Told ya.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
In Andy We Trust
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 2:56 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
A press conference would be a great time to go into the background behind that Jaun decision.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Juan*
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Andy has final say on Juan.
Sounds like he’s either gone or it hasn’t been decided.
Eagles: Season, but they'll be back with a vengeance next year. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Looking to next year
Sounds like he is gone. And Lurie is letting Andy be the guy to do it.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Agreed
If he was staying he would just say it.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 2:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You think so?
I think that Lurie is sincere when he says that it is Andy’s decision. I think that is a fact. Whether Reid consults anyone else on Castillo’s future is another question, but I have no doubts that Lurie does not choose Andy’s assistants for him.
Andy is here until he chooses to leave.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 2:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
agreed.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
There are only two years left on the contract
He had two years to win a ring. Then he can choose his fate.
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Lurie basically just said
The fans need to get over not liking Andy because Andy’s behavior works in the locker-room.
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Arrogance question guy is bold.
And probably will not be let into the press room ever again.
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haha
true
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Howie and Andy are staying.
And that reporter was trolling
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 2:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
haha yep.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Howie and Andy are staying.
And that reporter was trolling
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 3:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah but its a good question for a segue to defend Andy. Lurie did it well.
Eagles: Season, but they'll be back with a vengeance next year. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Looking to next year
Lurie is a professional. Very diplomatic.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm
I wonder if Evil Banner has thrown anything at his tv yet.
by Saidrick on Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Great point ...
Andy is not afraid to make changes. That is what saved him in my mind.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
Lurie definately reads BGN.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 3:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He asked me not to say this
but he thinks the world of you guys.
Andy Reid is Job now?
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Only on Wednesdays.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 3, 2012 3:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No key players drafted in the first round since 2005?
Maclin and Watkins?
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stupid people
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
on defense.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 3, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
This is true. They are still very high on Brandon Graham, which is why I do not think the Eagles will draft any high motor / tweener / speed ball DEs this year.
Until the 5th round.
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i don't understand why people want roseman out
what more could they have asked of him this offseason? he was able to bring many key, successful players onto the team during the offseason. why do people want him him gone? someone explain this to me.
I wonder the same thing
the guy obviously knows how to get players and make moves. Maybe they didn’t all work out but that’s not his fault. he guy is a mover and shaker. I’m glad he’s staying
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
exactly.
he brought the players in. its not up to him to make sure that they are playing their best.
Is Andy doing a PC today?
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damn
I can’t wait
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
I like
what Lurie said about Djax. Bring him back!!
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although
I wouldn’t mind Colston, Stevie Johnson or Vjax
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, IDK about Stevie Johnson or VJax. Jackson strikes me as somebody with poor work ethic who cruises by on his athleticism and Rivers’ talent and Johnson has some maturity issues a la DeSean. But I’m a huge Colston fan, and I’m not opposed to signing Johnson if that’s how the cards fall.
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just don't break the bank
djax kinda screwed himself. he wanted 12 mil this year. instead he didn’t get paid anything this year instead of taking the 7-8 mil offered.
it's ok
we forgive you
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 3, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
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