PFF Looks At Safety Tackling, Was Quintin Mikell A Bust In STL?
Pro Football Focus released their latest tackling study and this time they focused on how safeties performed. No current Eagles made their top 20 or bottom 20, but a few ex-birds did.
For one, it should come as no surprise that Jarrad Page ranked among the 20 worst tackling safeties in the NFL. He missed one tackle for every 5.1 he attempted this season. No surprise at all.
One former Eagle that did surprise with his struggles is Quintin Mikell, who finished among the bottom 30 in tackling, missing one every 6.2 attempts. Mikell was also credited with just 5 pass defenses this season, down from 15 last year and 13 the previous year. It's same to assume that the Rams expected more for their $27 million.
The worst tackler amongst safeties in the league was Tampa Bay's Tanard Jackson, who missed an amazing 24 tackles, or one for every 2.4 he attempted.
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I never realized how bad of a tackler Tanard Jackson was. I always thought he was a pretty good player overall.
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I think it comes with the tampa territory now….I’ll still take him over any of our safeties right now
by eagles0133 on Jan 29, 2012 12:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
tells you a lot bout our safeties....
any way we can clone another dawkins, lito, and sheldon?
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Seriously?
He’s awful. Worse than Jarrad Page awful.
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Although the funny thing is that the Bucs had the worst tackler in the NFL last year (I think) with Sabby Piscatelli.
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Right just about everytime
People endlessly rip the Eagles’ FO on not resigning their older players but with almost no exception they are right. Guys they let go via FA almost immediately decline and shortly are out of the league in a few years.
You also have to keep in mind
the mental state of the Rams. I’m willing to bet if Quin was on a playoff bound team, he’d perform a little better. The whole Rams team just looked like they didn’t want to play.
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So blame him for that
He was brought in to be a vet leader on that team. So he failed in that along with his play on the field.
That makes Q look worse, not better.
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Agreed
Everyone on here thought he was a defensive leader because he’s paid his dues. Well I agree with JasonB on this one, one big reason he was brought in to the young Rams teams was to be a leader…..if what you say is true it makes it an even worse signing.
This year...
… it looked like the Eagles got rid of all the right players to dump but only picked up one or two worth keeping. I suppose that gives them a C grade. Maybe if some of the FNG’s from this year start stepping up, the grade might improve.
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1 or 2 worth keeping? Which 1 or 2? Because I can think of at least three.
by PhilsForever on Jan 29, 2012 2:59 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I’ll concede maybe three and with time four. The ones who showed up to play did it late. They played like an 8-8 team and they earned the record they had. Two pro-bowlers and the rest will at best be reliable guys who don’t screw up too often. And Babin, though I love his pass rush, isn’t a complete player like Cole
I suppose I should relax the "worth keeping’ to ‘have much faith in being a real difference maker.’
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Babin, Jenkins, Nnamdi, DRC (if he can play on the outside), Mathis, Landri are all worth keeping. The only relatively high-priced FA that was truly a bust was VY and he only got a one year deal.
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by alcatraz0109 on Jan 29, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Steve Smith was an absolute waste of money.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 29, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t call $2.2M high-priced.
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by alcatraz0109 on Jan 29, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Neither would I, but it doesn’t make what I said any less true. He was a FA bust.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 29, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but I didn’t say “bust”, I said “high-priced bust”.
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by alcatraz0109 on Jan 29, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Seems like every single mock
Has us taking Kuechly, Rainey, Ladarius Green, Markus Zusevics, Kirk Cousins, Vinny Curry, and Chase Minnifield. Or at least 4 out of that list. Why is that?
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Wrong thread, nvmd.
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It would probably be a good idea if you just stayed in the eternal thread.
You can say anything you want there all day long, like, you know, if you have no life or anythng. I’m not saying that you have no life, or that anyone would think that from all the time you spend posting here.
I think you are probably a really great guy who really is going to make $100,000 a year as an guy with a bachelors in Anthropology just like you say, and not be a Barrister at Starbucks because you won’t be able to find work after spending all of Daddy’s money in a useless major. And you certainly won’t be one of those people that defaults on his student loans and makes us all pay down your debts with our taxes because we have real jobs and you picked an idiot major just above basket-weaving on the food chain and now you can’t earn enough to get out of your Mom’s basement. If I said something like that it would be a personal attack, so I am going to just refrain from that.
Nope, I would never say anything like that. As a matter of fact, I apologize for even thinking it. It really wasn’t me, I was just thinking of what other people might be thinking about you and I think they are just being unfair and don’t understand the real AnthroEagle.
Personally, I think you a gem of a fellow. And I won’t mention that there were two majors that the dumbest of the football players were herded into at my alma mater. Phys ed and Anthropology. Just because Anthy was considered the ‘cake major’ at my school – where they could tutor even the dimmest football stars that really had no business being in college at all – tutor them through and keep their GPA up high enough to stay eligible for the team – that doesn’t mean that it is that way at your school where I am sure Anthy is held in much higher esteem and is much more intellectually demanding.
No Anthy, and I would like to apologize for thinking that you are a liar for saying that I disrespect everyone on BGN when I clearly told you it was you and the five or six minions that play in the kiddy pool over in the eternal thread that I scoff at. I shouldn’t have thought that you are a liar, when clearly you just cannot understand. Don’t hate, celebrate.
And also I apologize for laughing at you when you abused me as arrogant for citing my IQ when someone called me stupid, yet somehow you had to say how you were just as smart as I am when you made that post. I shouldn’t have thought that you were insecure and pathetic and I was out of line for thinking so. Sorry about that, dude. You deserve much better.
I really do apologize from the bottom of my heart.
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Didnt Tanard come back off league suspension not to mention the lockout? If thats him, it probably had a large hand in that.
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by Illadelphia-Braintrust on Jan 29, 2012 3:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Q
He was one hell of an underrated player for us for a couple years the last year he was here was the first he was really recognized. I remember his goal line stop against Dallas for us a couple of years ago when he stuffed Marion Barber behind the line, he made like 2 or 3 stops right at the goal line. I can’t believe his production dropped off that much but once a player has high expectations it hard to live up to that on a really bad team, I would still take him over Coleman or Allen because I believe he’s still a better player then both of them, he was just in a new defense and had a whole new group of players around him it’s not always easy to produce in that situation.
by EaglesManiacMaz on Jan 29, 2012 9:19 PM EST reply actions
Is our system that different that all these guys can perform well here and then completely collapse elsewhere? A lot of guys felt we were fools to trade Q, Kolb, McNabb, Lito, and Stew Bradley. Those are the guys that come to mind off the top of my head. I’m sure there are more. But I wouldn’t want to trade the Eagles for anybody considering recent history.
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offense has the Upper hand
players r second guessing the point of impact! They don’t want to be fined for illegal hits.. It’s hard times nation wide they need their Duckie$!!!
by pragit on Jan 30, 2012 10:03 AM EST via Android app reply actions

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