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Jason Babin Acknowledges Early Struggles With Castillo Scheme

ST. LOUIS - SEPTEMBER 11: Jason Babin #93 of the Philadelphia Eagles celebrates a sack against St. Louis Rams at the Edward Jones Dome on September 11, 2011 in St. Louis, Missouri. The Eagles beat the Rams 31-13. (Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)

Jason Babin spoke with Yahoo! Sports this week about a number of things, but the one that really caught my eye was what he had to say about Juan Castillo. He did clearly say that the players, not the coaches truly deserve the blame for the problems last year, but he did acknowledge that things took longer to work out than anyone liked.

Early on, Castillo was more or less a transition, when you go from offensive line coach to coordinator, you're doing more than just coaching; you're creating a style, a system. So that can take time. It took a little longer to work out than we would have liked and I'm sure he would have liked.

I think there was a lot of growing going on and that's what makes him good as a coach. He listened, we listened — we all learned.

For me, this is one of those "no kidding" moments. Installing a new scheme with a slew of new players (half of the starting lineup) with no offseason or training camp would have been a incredibly hard task for experienced defense coordinator. For a guy in his first year? It's ridiculous.

And Juan doesn't deserve the blame for that. Reid does. He knew the situation and he made the decision anyway.

So with a full year under his belt, a full offseason and camp with players... Juan is going to be better next year. The question is whether he'll get better enough and as I said yesterday, will he get the help he needs to be successful?

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Not to much to say on a topic beaten like a dead horse, but this does offer more hope for further improvement next year.

by Dave King on Jan 21, 2012 9:06 AM EST reply actions  

I excited to see IF the Eagle D improves ALOT this year under Juan with a full offseason

to coach and teach his system with hopefully some needed additions at LB thru FA and/or draft,
and part of the excitement is that if the Eagles fail to meet FO’s expectations for sure there will be coaching changes next year starting with Andy.
At this point I still support Andy.

I grew up in Pa. but my job has taken me deep into the swamps of louisiana where all you here is "who dat, who dat" and on clear nights when the wind is gently blowing from the northwest you can hear the wimpers and sobs of jerry and his herd of cowgirls.

by eagleflownsouth on Jan 21, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure if having an offseason is automatically going to make Castillo better. We said the same exact thing with McDermott. “Oh, he struggled because he couldn’t imprint his scheme in time. Give him an offseason and some players improvement and he’ll be fine!”

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"WHY IS THIS PINK-HAIRED BITCH A CAR?!"

by Imp on Jan 21, 2012 9:13 AM EST reply actions  

yea but people arent even giving juan that.

And Juan is not mcd, he actually has more experience coaching in the NFL, so who knows what the results will be. But he deserves atleast one more year, just like we all said about mcd.

by VRFC8 on Jan 21, 2012 9:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It's happened to a lot of others as well

IIRC, I saw a chart of top DC’s performances in their first year, compared to the second. There is a big jump.

by Dave King on Jan 21, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

McDermott failed his first year

mostly because the defense was ravaged with injury. I still remember that playoff game versus the Cowboys where the Eagles had to call a timeout just to get any healthy defender on the field. The next season the defense was relatively healthier, so he didn’t have as much of an excuse (although I thought he deserved one more year). This year, the defense was very healthy (save Trent Cole and Nnamdi Asomugha) so Juan gets to pull the “I’m new here and just need more time” card.

"This game is...over!" -Chuck Bednarik

by Matt Harkenreader on Jan 21, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Other cards in Juan's deck:

- Shortened offseason
- improvement over the course of the year
- the fact that his defense was absolutely fine this year on the whole and he didn’t actually fail

Nope.

by bigmeanie08 on Jan 21, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The last one is BS

His defense was crap for most of the year. Remember the ATL game when he went into prevent and let Ryan sit with no pressure and pick apart our zone, even though for most of the game applying pressure on Ryan was going well?

by nyeaglesfan624 on Jan 21, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but Juan actually improved at the end of his first year. McDermott didn’t.

And I think this defense has more talent than McDermott’s.

by bdawk4ever on Jan 21, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

McDermott’s D actually declined.

by BrandonB on Jan 22, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Juan did better than McDermott.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jan 22, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Well no matter what the consequences were...

I’m very very optimistic about next year’s defense. I will admit I was hopeful for a Super Bowl appearance this year, but I didn’t think about the short off season and new acquisitions being affected like they were.
Now that a system is in place and film to watch, I am thinking we may have a top five defense next year.

Brian Dawkins for President

by BDawkins20 on Jan 21, 2012 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

there really was no reason to think that we would make it to the superbowl this year

waaaaaaay to many changes. new dc and half the starting D was new.

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Im not JIBTA.

by howard is better than pujols on Jan 21, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He is juan simpleminded jackass.

Unable to think
His man corners play in zone
Another touchdown.

God Damn you, Andy Reid.

The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.

by EvilBanner on Jan 21, 2012 9:29 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

That's bullshit

I'm great like Gatsby.

by Clint Eastwood on Jan 21, 2012 9:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

That was an abusive and inappropriate reply.

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by IggleGreen on Jan 21, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

EB's Post...

…deserves the same respect as anyone else’s. Those are the rules. If I have to follow the rules. CE has to follow them, too.

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by IggleGreen on Jan 21, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

what rules would that be?

Jason and the guys let people say what they want for the most part. There is a line and I even got dinged for crossing it earlier this week. But what makes this blog great is we can use big boy words when we want. Don’t be a prude. Also eb’s act gets annoying and for us who it annoys we can call him out.

by VRFC8 on Jan 21, 2012 12:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The rules that are arbitrarily applied, I suppose.

Are you a minion? If you are then you can say anything about or to anyone.
Anthro, clint eastwood, Kbyars, etc., get away with it, but I get the same treatment you get. I am not allowed to call out the minions, but the minions are allowed to call out anyone.

This used to be a great blog, but now it reminds me too much of an arbitrarly policed clique.

Occupy BGN!!!

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by IggleGreen on Jan 21, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

what are you talking about

If you told me to go screw myself right now or go jump infront of traffic I doubt anything would happen. Whatever though believe in the conspiracy.

by VRFC8 on Jan 21, 2012 12:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Watch.

Go screw yourself and jump into traffic.

(It was nice knowing you. I’ll get banned for sure now for not being a minion.)

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by IggleGreen on Jan 21, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent….you played right into our master plan….

by VRFC8 on Jan 21, 2012 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh my god, I’m still here, I’m still aliv….

Aaarrgh!

(Thunk.)

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by IggleGreen on Jan 21, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I let AnthroEagle know as well. It was getting kinda out of hand.

by Route36 on Jan 21, 2012 1:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

yea

I said something that at the time was emotional to prove a point. But wrong.

by VRFC8 on Jan 21, 2012 1:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well when EB actually makes coherent points instead of just making insulting statements toward Juan and Reid, than I’ll give them respect.

by bdawk4ever on Jan 21, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

They are bad coaches who deserve insults.

It will hopefully drive them to quit.

God Damn you, Andy Reid.

The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.

by EvilBanner on Jan 21, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really

His bad schemes cost games
Fitzgerald is a monster
Where are you, Nnamdi?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRD3ScHO5MQ

God Damn you, Andy Reid.

The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.

by EvilBanner on Jan 21, 2012 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

If Nnamdi was covering him it wouldnt matter, he shut down Fitz in 2010 playing for Oakland.

by fhqwagads on Jan 21, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

With all due respect....

The players and coaches need to keep an open communication, during game time, to assess the situation for better reaction. For some reason coaches found ways to utilize injured players to capitalize in some plays, not a pretty thing, but the game must go on. Coaches learn to understand a player’s strengths and weaknesses for them to utilize their position, in which they’ll have a full off season to actually see what they have to make things work, after the FA and Drafts picks. Once the players are on the field, their football instinct should click in, from there it’s on them to perform to the best of their knowledge and abilities. They can’t be perfect, but they can do their best.

by EaglesHeat on Jan 21, 2012 11:18 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Juan's a passionate coach

and for a guy who had a complete transition into a new role with quite a new lineup of players he did a decent job. It takes any new system some time to gel before it shows its true colors. Frustrations and disappointments aside after assembling what should’ve been a defensive juggernaut, Juan and the players are on the same page now and things should much different next season with a season of experience. Continuity is what we need. Spags chose NOLA cuz of stability. That’s exactly what we need here. Stability.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on Jan 21, 2012 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

For me, this is one of those “no kidding” moments.

Me too. I predicted that there would be problems early on with the entire D and the O-line in pre-season last year because of all of the coaching, staff and scheme changes – compounded with the short off-season. I got hammered as being a pessimist and a disloyal fan for my trouble.

Even I didn’t think it would take the D as long as it took to gel. At this point, I have to agree that AR is committed to live or die next year with the system that is in place, unless Marty leaves. The D has come a long way. The O-line is fixed, for sure. There are problems to address but it sure is a better team than it was in November.

Let’s hope for a great draft and some good FA moves.

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by IggleGreen on Jan 21, 2012 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

I remember how bad that O-Line was in the beginning

no one was sure it could ever be remedied in any way

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by jXn on Jan 21, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. I thought it would take a while to gel, but I never expected things to be as bad as they were at first. With all the player rotations most everyone was sure that Mudd was an over-rated gas bag with no clue whatsover. I lost faith, too. He sure showed me in the end.

Jason has valid concerns and I hope that we get lucky and Castillo will get the new staff and players that he needs and become a great defensive coordinator.

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by IggleGreen on Jan 21, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I do believe that ppl are letting their frustrations pelt on Castillo

and it overshadows the good things he did do. Our offense wasn’t great and we did run into several injuries as well. It wasn’t as if everything was swell and our defense was the only mess. Everything kind of piled up on each other. Due to the o-line compiled of neophytes and having no chemistry, it lead to Vick being bum-rushed nearly every play and lead to his injuries, and then our offense committing a myriad of turnovers only magnified Castillo’s flaws all the more.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on Jan 21, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah. And don’t forget the WR drops. Even our ’sure-handed" go-to guys like Avant and Celek were dropping balls. And DeSean just fell off the map. Young never recovered to the point he mattered. I wonder if Young will be better next season or if he is simply a one-season wonder and then done due to injury like Kevin Curtis was.

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by IggleGreen on Jan 21, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah people conveniently forget about the beginning of the season on the offensive side of the ball with Vick being hit seemingly after every play. Some of his injuries were fluky and some were not. He was getting hit so much he even had to start bashing the refs. I would say the pressure he was getting was a major cause for his turnovers. He was forcing throws and trying to make plays under pressure.

The defense was made to work hand and hand with the explosive offense from last year. The vision was that the offense would strike quickly with our big play weapons and get an early lead. The other team would be forced to abandon the run early in the game, thus playing right into the hands of the wide-9 and our 3 playmaking corners.

This didn’t happen most of the season with all the turnovers on offense, but it did happen the last 4 games when everything started to click, offense and defense.

The beginning of the season was just a total disaster. New schemes, coaches, and players on both sides of the ball with no offseason. I don’t know why or how AR thought that could work.

by BrandonB on Jan 21, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I Concur

I think the majority of the failures on offense began and ended with Vick’s own expectations for himself. He played one hell of a season last year (arguably the best of his career and yes and i still believe that despite Brady’s stellar stats, the MVP belonged to Vick especially after making such a return and bringing life to a city that had departed with the beloved Dawkins and McNabb) and coming into this season he had a huge chip on his shoulder since so many people wanted an encore. That pressure became frustration and the injuries only compounded it and you can tell that the atmosphere in the locker room didn’t have that unity it did during the playoffs last year b4 losing to GB. There were too many factors in this year’s failures to simply be ignorant and make Castillo the scapegoat. A team is as strong as its weakest link. Once all the wheels are nicely tunes, It’ll be interesting to see how well this car runs.

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by jXn on Jan 21, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

tuned*

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on Jan 21, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You bring up a good point. Vick had pressure on himself to improve upon his great year and make plays. There were also talks in the beginning of the season that Vick couldn’t beat the blitz and the book was out against him. He also had pressure in his face from defenders from the shaky o-line play. The result: turnovers. Instead of taking the sack or throwing it away he forced a bad throws or tucked it and ran and got stripped. Definite learning experience.

by BrandonB on Jan 21, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

And the thing is he DID learn

At the end of the season, you saw that instead of pummeling into defenders in his obdurate way, he instead faked and went out of bounds (forgive me as I’m having a hard time recollecting which game it was). He made smart moves to AVOID the tackle and he played a hell of a game. Just smart sound moves that made him even deadlier at what he already does.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on Jan 21, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I really hope he takes that with him going forward.

An offense with that mentality makes next year’s squad even more dangerous than it already would be with the stability going forward with JC. (i think it was the Jets game? LOL)

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on Jan 21, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely agree

If the offense can live up to its potential and truly be a top 5 offense in the league, the person who will benefit the most will be JC.

by BrandonB on Jan 21, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

way too. rational

I agree though. I’m disappointed with this season and AR is one season from getting the axe. But a lot of things contributed to getting to this point, and Juan was apart of it. But he was not the reason.

by VRFC8 on Jan 21, 2012 1:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Even with all the trouble the Eagles team had on both the defensive and offensive side of the ball… One thing is for certain… McCoy had a great season, Vick had a pretty good season but spent time out with injuries.. And outside of wasting money on players like Ronnie Brown, or Vince Young, there is no team in worse shape then say the NY Jets, or maybe even the St., Louis Rams right now.

I think things will be ok for the Eagles again this year. A shortened off season, and new coordinator may have been too much but no need for excuses, just pick up the pieces and move forward. Let Deshaun walk… him and his bad attitude can go to the Raiders or Jets where he will fit right in, and Vick can continue to throw the ball to Avant and Cooper… players who enjoy playing the game of football more than talking about it.

As I said, i think we will be fine. Concentrate on Free Agency and the Draft as IggleGreen mentioned and the rest will work itself out. :)

by jdelsandro on Jan 21, 2012 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

For me, this is one of those “no kidding” moments. Installing a new scheme with a slew of new players (half of the starting lineup) with no offseason or training camp would have been a incredibly hard task for experienced defense coordinator. For a guy in his first year? It’s ridiculous.

And Juan doesn’t deserve the blame for that. Reid does. He knew the situation and he made the decision anyway.

Reports seem to indicate that noone wanted the job except JC. I scratched my head and wondered why (at the time). But I’ll Juan another shot.

by Live from Quahog on Jan 21, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

A logical theory is because of Washburn. Andy hired Wash before his DC. Most prospective DCs may have wanted to avoid the Eagles because of Wash’s wide-9 and his fiery temperment. Then you are left with guys who are just happy to have a coord job…like your OL coach.

by BrandonB on Jan 21, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Hit the nail on the head
Installing a new scheme with a slew of new players (half of the starting lineup) with no offseason or training camp would have been a incredibly hard task for experienced defense coordinator. For a guy in his first year? It’s ridiculous.

Eagles season in a nutshell.

by BrandonB on Jan 21, 2012 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

I don't get

How 16 games of experiences, at pretty much any Defensive football level, is enough to warrant “another chance” for Castillo. He hasnt seen enough offensive plays against him yet. Ok so now he has more of a handle on his scheme, thats great. But what happens when teams adjust in-game against him? Will it take him another 2 or 3 games to adjust right back? Then what? We sacrifice more games? Why are we settling for mediocrity?

The truth of the matter is we need more experience on this defensive staff, and keeping Castillo only is simply not enough. He needs help!

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 21, 2012 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

That is an interesting point. It brings up the point that if he needs that kind of help, should he be a DC at all, or really just an assistant? I still think the he proved himself at the end of the season, and you might as well keep him if no one better is one the market.

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by IggleGreen on Jan 21, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I do see a benefit of keeping him on staff. I just think he needs help. And I have a feeling that is what Andy is trying to find him, but cant find anyone who would come in under these circumstances :
1) Andy is a year or two away from being gone
2) Washburn and his scheme are a big part of this D
3) Have or be an Assistant to Castillo

Those are a lot to handle for someone who wants to come in and make an impact.

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 21, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Lovely assesment. It has merit. What is Mike Singletary doing these days? He could be a LB coach, but I’d probably keep him away from the secondary.

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by IggleGreen on Jan 21, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember the rumor that Mangini, or one of those guys came in as an “advisor” last year. I think this is what Reid is trying to get done going forward.

The only thing with that is, will Lurie be happy? He made it really clear in his season wrap up speech that changes NEED to be made…so….time will tell I guess…but I really doubt that Castillo will return by himself. He will have help or be replaced.

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 21, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I would hope they get him some help, not replace him. 16 games is not a very big body of work for AR to base his decision on. Especially if the DC job is a heavily weighed factor in your future job security. Changing schemes again might not sound too appealing to AR. And being outscored so badly in those five 4th quarters isn’t all defense.

by Live from Quahog on Jan 21, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn’t sound like he was putting the blame on the players. Unless there’s a quote that was left out.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
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by KByars on Jan 21, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

well, this is the same guy that thinks hes a complete DE…..

Funny how he didnt even crack the top 5 with his league leading sack total…..Wake up call Babin

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 21, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

We were just lucky that teams didn’t run on us as much as they could have. We were 19th in ypc, but only 21st in rushing attempts against. Things could have been much worse.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
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by KByars on Jan 21, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Theres always next season….

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 21, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont deny that. They just need to use him in a smarter way. Sacks and pressure are great, but they need to turn into turnovers. And maybe you only use him on 2nd and 3rd downs. Its like they just wanted to ignore his ineptitudes in the running game all season.

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 21, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s our Osi, play him on passing downs, sit him on rushing downs.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
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by KByars on Jan 21, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

bottom line

I think anyone (Juan) who was involved in the decision to actually start Casey Matthews and the time it took to pull him, should be FIRED on the spot. That decision alone cost the eagles a few games and ultimately the playoffs. Juan may improve his play calling next year but poor judgment is not as easy to correct and it will continue to show in key moments of a game against good teams.

by gp5 on Jan 21, 2012 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

.......umm idk about that.

I could see if they kept him there all year, but they did get him moved then benched. He did play at the end of the season and was much better than the beginning. Also the options at the time were Matthews, rolle, fokou, and Jordan. Chaney was really the only sure starter. Rolle showed he can be a player.

by VRFC8 on Jan 21, 2012 2:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

For me, this is one of those “no kidding” moments. Installing a new scheme with a slew of new players (half of the starting lineup) with no offseason or training camp would have been a incredibly hard task for experienced defense coordinator.

Last year right before the season started I stated this sentiment. People jumped on me and insisted we would be GREAT. I hate to be right in this situation but HOW RETARDED WAS REID not to get him a guy to help him transition? This season clearly falls squarely on Reid.

Even though I saw this happening I still am beyond annoyed with the way things turned out!

At least one more year of Andy and Juan. If they don't win it all they both better be gone!

No way Eagles draft a LB in the first round 2012.

We will see if Spags was in the right place at the right time in the Gmens SB run. Or was that the fluke year and he really is just mediocre.

by MightyJoeBanner on Jan 21, 2012 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

This is why people want him gone. We just ate it all up and trusted that he knew what he was doing…..well…you do that after 12 years of coming short of a SB….people are going to stop trusting you. Which is what is happening. People can throw out all the stats they want, bottom line is some of us just dont trust his decision making as much anymore.

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 21, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOO JUAN CASTILLO IS A GREAT COACH YEAAHHHHHH

Prediction: the 3-4 will be out of style in two years.
So no, I will not shut up about stupidity.

by bdawk4ever on Dec 11, 2011 1:39 PM EST

by packimop on Jan 21, 2012 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

I'm glad his players didn't have to tell him how to coach.

Prediction: the 3-4 will be out of style in two years.
So no, I will not shut up about stupidity.

by bdawk4ever on Dec 11, 2011 1:39 PM EST

by packimop on Jan 21, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Way to say something nobody else is actually saying.

by bdawk4ever on Jan 21, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks friend!

Prediction: the 3-4 will be out of style in two years.
So no, I will not shut up about stupidity.

by bdawk4ever on Dec 11, 2011 1:39 PM EST

by packimop on Jan 22, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't believe this

I, for one, do not accept this losing crap. Look at all the top tier players that have played in Philadelphia in Andy’s tenure. And not one fucking championship. The fucking Giants are playing for the NFC title tomorrow. The fucking Giants.

The mindset in Philly MUST change, and Andy is the main culprit. Say all the bad things about Coughlin that you want, but he has his team playing at a high level, and A LOT of his players don’t care for his style of coaching. Sick of “teddy bear” Reid. And I am definetly sick of Juan Castillo as our DC. Clearly, he has NO CLUE as to what he is doing. DRC and Nnamdi should be playing man defense!!!!!!! Those guys have no business being lined up at safety positions.

The Philadelphia Eagles have NEVER won a Super Bowl. That is the one fact that people throw in my face time and time again. I am sick of hearing about this. And I am sick of seeing other teams play in the most important games. Change the fucking culture in Philadelphia and bring in some disciplined, football people to run this team. I remember the Patriots when they were a shit team. The Saints, too. How about those 49’ers? Recently, they were a shit team. Now look. They changed the perception of themselves and brought in some smart, FOOTBALL people. They are HOSTING the NFC Champioship game on Sunday.

When will the Eagles ownership decide that a change is needed? When will they go out and get brilliant, football people to run this team? Because the day that they decide to do this will be the day that we count down to the crowning of the Philadelphia Eagles as the NFL Champions.

Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!

by EagleDomiNation on Jan 21, 2012 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

Don’t worry. The Eagles played great the last four games of the season and looked like one of the best teams in the league. That matters right?

Prediction: the 3-4 will be out of style in two years.
So no, I will not shut up about stupidity.

by bdawk4ever on Dec 11, 2011 1:39 PM EST

by packimop on Jan 22, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

what if?

We may have had a different turn out if the NFL teams as a whole would have had a full off season to practice. This year coaches were rushed that’s the feel I got after the so called Strike. Castillo deserves a second chance, also it would greatly silence fans and the media if Dawkins was hired as the Secondary Coach…U KNOW!

by pragit on Jan 21, 2012 3:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

You’re right! No team with so many changes could have possibly made it deep into the playoffs this year! Oh wait the Texans were a few injuries away from the AFC Championship game and the 49ers, who have a new head coach, are in the NFC Championship game. U KNOW!

Prediction: the 3-4 will be out of style in two years.
So no, I will not shut up about stupidity.

by bdawk4ever on Dec 11, 2011 1:39 PM EST

by packimop on Jan 22, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

No doubt Castillo got better as the season went on,

he adjusted when he needed to etc… Hopefully an offseason and a bit more work with players will help him out.

I’d like to go get a guy who has experience to kinda come in and guide him though.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jan 21, 2012 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

Fixed!

I’d like to go get a guy who has experience to kinda come in and guide him though replace his incompetent ass.

God Damn you, Andy Reid.

The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.

by EvilBanner on Jan 21, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

lol

I loved it when you’re on a rage road, you keep at it until its burned in ours brains

Formerly BWestFactor
FLY #7 FLY !

by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 21, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

my thoughts exactly, EB

Fed up with this bullshit. Any other team would not have done that experiment. O-line coach to DC? Nonsense.

Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!

by EagleDomiNation on Jan 22, 2012 2:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Just have an old coach who can come in and help out during the offseason and let Castillo continue on his path,

I honestly think Castillo could be a good DC.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jan 22, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

He was great against New England

Prediction: the 3-4 will be out of style in two years.
So no, I will not shut up about stupidity.

by bdawk4ever on Dec 11, 2011 1:39 PM EST

by packimop on Jan 22, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

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