Saints Hire Steve Spagnuolo As Defensive Coordinator
by JasonB on Jan 19, 2012 6:09 PM EST
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PrintSo much for #hirespags, at least as far as the Eagles were concerned. Jay Glazer is reporting that he has agreed to become defensive coordinator of the New Orleans Saints.
When we talked about other teams that could possibly have interest in Spagnuolo, the Saints were the only one that obviously presented a better situation than what he could have had here in Philadelphia. They've essentially already got a championship caliber team in place, a stable coaching situation and obviously one of the better QBs in the NFL. Looking at the situation objectively, it's the better job right now.
So, with that, the Spagnuolo ship has sailed which means that the Eagles defensive coordinator situation may not be seeing any changes at all. The team didn't fire Juan Castillo or announce he'd be back next year. Then again, teams usually don't make it a point of announcing that assistant coaches will return. They usually just do.
With Spags off the market, is there anyone you would think the Eagles would have interest in? Is Juan the guy for next year?
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Well
Shit…
El Donkerino (if you're not into the whole brevity thing).
I miss me some Brian Dawkins :(
by El Donkerino on Jan 19, 2012 6:10 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Marty is deff jumping ship for the Colts or Raiders now. Ugh. This is Reid’s last season and we have a front seat for disaster .
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The minute we draft a DE or something with our first pick while Luke Kuchely is just sitting there tackling random people at the Draft the clock will start ticking.
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by KeepSwinging on Jan 19, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
We better draft Kuchely but I have a feeling we won’t
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Sigh....
He’s such a perfect fit and we all want it to happen so much there’s pretty much no way it actually will happen. I’m really ready for free agency and the draft to start so we can see what exactly we’re going to have next year.
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by KeepSwinging on Jan 19, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
kuchely
i think kuchely is going to be average .. hes nothing special .. if they pick him ill be pissed .. take mike adams from ohio state .. we need a franchise bookend .. move heremans back to guard .. where he isnt as bad .. and have a side of watkins and adams for 6 years … kuchely is another brandon graham .. no thanks!
by JIBTA on Jan 19, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Umm, Mike Adams?
With guys like Riley Reiff, Johnathan Martin, and DeCastro out there (yeah I know DeCasto’s an OG, but he’d be a damn good LG for 10+ years)
I like Mike Adams but honestly at 15 that’s to high… I’d rather go with a WR or LB.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Juan more year. Andy is putting the team in a good position to win.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Jan 19, 2012 6:12 PM EST reply actions
Can't wait to see our defense get torched by good teams again next year.
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Hope the Saints play on the road during playoffs and get curb stomped
"I love my Ducks (wait 'til you see my O)"
Sad
Instead of hoping for the best for your team all you do is hope another team sucks. Classic.
Fuck off Garbage QB
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by bkeagle718 on Jan 19, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by So. Cal Swag on Jan 19, 2012 8:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yup. F***** pathetic we didn’t get spag’s.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Jan 19, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think this is the Eagles. Is there one reason why anyone would choose the Eagles’ D-Coordinator Job over the Saints’ right now if given the choice?
I can’t think of one.
The Eagles defense probably has more overall talent than the Saints and is better right now, but looking at the teams overall the Saints are obviously a better situation.
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Why not? The Saints have more holes in their D than we do?
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They also have a team that is clearly a Super Bowl contender and a very stable situation. If Spagnolo comes to the Eagles, there’s the change Reid gets fired after this season and the new guy cleans house. Spagnolo doesn’t need to build an elite defense in New Orleans, he just needs to build a solid one with that offense
He needs a defense good enough to ensure them homefield in the postseason and they’ll be in the Super Bowl.
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If they had a decent defense this year they would have won on the road as it is.
They just need a good defense period and they will be really, really tough to beat no matter where they play.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
If there was ever a year the Saints take a step back
it could be next year. They have the longest list of key FA’s in the league and could realistically lose Carl Nicks and Marques Colston. I’m not saying I expect a step back because Brees is one of the best in the biz. But I don’t think 12+ wins is as much of a sure-thing as people think. It’ll all depend on what they can do this offseason to bring back their key FA’s as well as add talent to the defense.
It would be nice to have a dc with more then a year of experience. I dunno. Might be a crazy idea.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Jan 19, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Juan will have
as much experience this year as Spags did when the Giants won the Super Bowl
Cowboys suck.
…probably important to mention that Spags had lots of defensive coaching experience prior to being a DC, where Juan basically had no significant experience.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
not to mention
better and many more tittie bars!
I know I live down there
I grew up in Pa. but my job has taken me deep into the swamps of louisiana where all you here is "who dat, who dat" and on clear nights when the wind is gently blowing from the northwest you can hear the wimpers and sobs of jerry and his herd of cowgirls.
by eagleflownsouth on Jan 19, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Bad thing is that we play the saints next year. If you think about it Spags has a better defense to work with in NO. Sad but true
Not really a decent DL. Secondary is pretty bad as well.
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I think most
would rate our DL higher, and definitely our corners (still counting Asante).
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 19, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Not even a question
Saints secondary is terrible.
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I thought so
but didn’t want to take a strong stand without looking it up ha. Thanks.
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 19, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
3rd most passing yards allowed per game, second fewest picks…
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Putting your bias to the side. If you were Spags and you had to chose from the Siants defense or Philly? and Why??
I’d choose the Saints situation overall.
Their defense is worse, but the overall situation is better.
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Yeah, I can’t dispute this. Saints job was definitely more attractive.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Which is why he chose the Saints. Andy should have jumped on the phone and made calls as soon as he was fired smh.
Well I don’t know if he did or not…. but Spags had to know that he’d have options either way.
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But Spags decided to wait it out himself right away.
He was in no hurry and this is why. He knew if he waited his options would expand and they did. We don’t know if the Eagles went to him right away or not. My guess is that it wouldn’t have mattered one way or the other.
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not even close
unless they get good hits on draft.
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
Sign Spags Now !!!
by JJeaglerooter on Jan 19, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
No pass rushers in NO. Going to have to blitz a lot more
by Shady25 on Jan 19, 2012 10:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So we don't get Spags and
now we get to play the saints this year with probably and much tougher defense.
Shit
I grew up in Pa. but my job has taken me deep into the swamps of louisiana where all you here is "who dat, who dat" and on clear nights when the wind is gently blowing from the northwest you can hear the wimpers and sobs of jerry and his herd of cowgirls.
by eagleflownsouth on Jan 19, 2012 6:14 PM EST reply actions
Probably wouldn’t have mattered… but yes, this certainly doesn’t help.
That said, Gregg Williams is no slouch. It’s not like Spags is even an obvious upgrade.
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That's true, the Saints really needed better pass rushers, not so much a new DC
I grew up in Pa. but my job has taken me deep into the swamps of louisiana where all you here is "who dat, who dat" and on clear nights when the wind is gently blowing from the northwest you can hear the wimpers and sobs of jerry and his herd of cowgirls.
by eagleflownsouth on Jan 19, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Better offense to. Still have mathis and dj to figure out to even maintain.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Jan 19, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
With the zone blitz scheme that he runs they were a better fit. Trust me I really want Spags here in Philly. But I understand why he chose the Saints. As a whole, they were the more solidified defense between the two.
Well, I don’t know what you mean by “solidified,” they’re a worse defense than we’ve got here… But as I said earlier, the overall situation down there is better.
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Hey Juan kinda stepped it up late in the year...
Seems like Andy is truly going to trust his job in the hands of Juan
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Did
he step it up or the scheduled competition take a step down?
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 19, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
I think he got better as the year went on.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
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Fool’s Gold.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Not
Fools gold just is what it is. They made bad teams look bad. They did there job. They made a few good teams look bad to.
Which good team did we make look bad?
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 8:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
When we first played the cowboys I don’t remember them having a lot if any starters out and they held them to 7. They played the giants the second time and held them to 10 points. Giants were 9th in points per game and the cowboys were 15th both right about 24 points a game (24.6 for the giants and 23.1 for the cowboys). The notion that the last 4 games don’t count does not hold water unless you are also willing to not count 4 games against good or really good teams.
I still can't completely buy this argument for one reason:
Juan made bad teams look good earlier in the season. By making bad teams look bad late in the season he showed improvement. Whether or not it will prove to be enough improvement remains to be seen, but I don’t see how it can be denied that the defense played better to finish the season.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
This. The defense did what they were supposed to against bad teams- show them how bad they were. They didn’t do that in the beginning of the season. That’s definite improvement. Also, those were team losses not defensive losses.
And now with a full offseason, and personnel upgrades, Juan could be good enough.
They beat up on talentless teams all season. Once SJax left the game, we shut down the Rams offense. We shut down the Skins week 6. We crushed the Cowboys with Romo and Austin coming off injuries. Anyone can shut down a team without offensive weapons.
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by Avant-Garde on Jan 19, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Is that what it's about?
Losing by the fewest points? Our rivals in NY have a team that can beat the Patriots, despite their flaws. Our city does not have that sort of team. I don’t want “losing by less points”
by UnclaimedFright on Jan 20, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Juan isn’t the problem. The problem is our offense didn’t get better. Offense put the defense in some bad situations early. You saw it happen over the weekend. You can’t win if you turn the ball over. Even Drew Brees couldn’t overcome the turnovers. Need some fresh new ideas offensively. Maybe 2 TE sets more or Shady and Dion Lewis on the field at the same time. Gotta switch it up. Teams are on to us offensively, especially Desean.
by Shady25 on Jan 19, 2012 10:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The defense was built to work hand and hand with the offense. Our explosive weapons would give us an early lead, forcing teams into to abandon the run early thus playing right into the hands of the wide-9 and our playmaking corners. This didn’t happen because of the turnovers for most of the season. It did happen the last 4 games. I think the early turmoil on the o-line contributed to the turnovers. Now the line is looking good. I think they can get it right next year and show what this team can really do. Juan or no Juan.
Wait
But he was gonna fix everything somehow and chase off washburn. Now who will lead our defense???
Buddy Ryan
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by Clint Eastwood on Jan 19, 2012 6:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, OC is the problem. Offense has gotten stale and predictable.
by Shady25 on Jan 19, 2012 10:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes,
Thank you. Fire whoever decided that Michael Vick was a pocket passer and told him not to roll out, thus negating half of what makes Vick a great QB.
by UnclaimedFright on Jan 20, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
So teams upgrade with Spags, Williams, and Nolan
and we keep Castillo..
by Igglesfan13 on Jan 19, 2012 6:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Did the Saints upgrade?
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by JasonB on Jan 19, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Buddy is coming out of retirement...
Seriously though is there anyone else that was under JJ that’s out there now? Also who’s the top candidate now? And I don’t know why but I have a feeling we’ll be switching to a 3-4 soon.
Finally, I’d be fine with Juan staying we need a year of stability on this team. I’d be curious to see what he can do with a full offseason and the players trust. Either way Reid is putting his job on the line if he sticking with Juan, this time next year we could be looking for a new HC…
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by Clint Eastwood on Jan 19, 2012 6:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm surprised. I thought Andy would bring Spags back since it would be a "safe" move.
Going into next season with Juan (assuming he stays as DC) seems like a big, unnecessary risk to me (just like it was last season).
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 6:20 PM EST reply actions
It wasn't Andy's decision
It was Spagnuolo’s.
Now, maybe the Eagles didn’t go after him… but either way it wasn’t a move Andy could make just because he wanted to.
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by JasonB on Jan 19, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let me rephrase:
I thought he would WANT to bring Spags back. It looks like he might not have, which surprises me.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
I thought the Eagles would be really aggressive in trying to bring him back. Maybe they were, but maybe they had other plans from the start.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think Andy even contacted Spags. Castillo is his man.
Dedication without talent is a daydream. Talent without dedication is a nightmare.
That’s the part that should piss everyone off. I mean, we couldn’t force him to come here…but no interview? Jesus this sucks.
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I think you are right. Andy Reid is loyal and because of that, will give Castillo another year. If he strugles, i can see him possibly getting fired in the midle of the season. I also think Zordich is going to be the secondary coach and not just the safeties.
by Shady25 on Jan 19, 2012 10:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Per McLane:
Important to note, no one from the #Eagles has told anyone that they were interested in bringing Steve Spagnuolo back. Still digging.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 6:20 PM EST reply actions
It’s “important” to note that Jeff McLane didn’t know what the Eagles plans were?
Dunno about that Jeff.
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Glad it happened now and not weeks later...
so that we’re not strung along with false hopes for weeks like we were when the Eagles still had a mathematical chance of making the playoffs only to see it disappear week 16 when Mark Sanchez safetied himself.
Well at least
we know not to get our hopes up going into next year.
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It's been that kind of year.
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by KByars on Jan 19, 2012 6:25 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
What? Apologize to Mr. Locke now!
by Route36 on Jan 19, 2012 6:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
John Locke is the character in that photo.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
The only John Locke I know
was a philosopher on the nature of government….
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 19, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
LOST
That guy up there, John Locke, was one of the most badass TV characters written in the past ten years.
by UnclaimedFright on Jan 19, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Walter White would like a word with you
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Yeah, "one of"
Heisenberg is TOTALLY more badass. So is Omar from the Wire. But John Locke is top 5, for sure.
by UnclaimedFright on Jan 20, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Never watched Lost
sorry, but I guarantee he’s no Omar Little.
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 20, 2012 8:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I recommend
You buy the DVD’s, take a week off work (or school) and lock yourself in your room to watch it. The show is awesome.
And while you’re watching, look up some of the “Easter Eggs” that are thrown into the show that will blow your mind.
The FO better bring in some damn good linebackers to cover up Juan’s deficiencies.
by Route36 on Jan 19, 2012 6:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If Juan was this terrible DC, why did we end up with a better defense then the Saints, Patriots and Packers(all 3 what people around here would call great DCs)?
by Anders Jensen on Jan 19, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Better in yards given up only.
Eagle defense only gave up 0.7 points per game less than the Saints, 0.9 ppg less than the Patriots, and 1.9 ppg less than the Packers. But the Eagles offense wasn’t within 7 points per game of any of those teams. In fact, both Saints and Packers outscored them by 10 points PER GAME.
The defense was good enough. The offense didn’t do enough.
Because they all had elite offenses, so opposing offenses were passing all day to try to keep up. Considering each defense had huge holes in their secondaries, no one expected them to be good. Just good enough.
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by Avant-Garde on Jan 19, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Also is it Juans fault, that none of the LBs or safeties could tackle?
by Anders Jensen on Jan 19, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Or the offense led the league in turnovers?
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by JasonB on Jan 19, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
100% agree, I think people just want a scapegoat for this season and it seems to be Juan this year.
by Anders Jensen on Jan 19, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Don't forget Anders
Juan was responsible (or not) for trying to make adjustments during the games and at half-time and didn’t do a great job IMHO
"Time's OURS"
Well, I’m not saying that Juan couldn’t have done better or that an upgrade at DC couldn’t help…
But we can’t act as if Juan was the only problem and that Spags would have magically fixed everything. No defense would overcome an offense who leads the league in turnovers and the personnel issues would have been the same.
Schemes can only do so much.
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That is my point aswell. I would have been thrilled to have Spags run this defense, but I was happy to see the pass defense really improve (In todays NFL I think pass defense is much more important then run defense).
by Anders Jensen on Jan 19, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
All writers who heard "reports" Spags will be with the Eagles within a week should be fired.
Seriously. These people just make up stories that seem likely or plausible, so that if it does happen, they can say they reported it first.
They said he’d be returning to Philadelphia, if I remember correctly. Spags has a home in the area. They never actually said the Eagles were going to hire him.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
True
meant to lead everybody on and later claim “breaking” the story if he returned to the Eagles, but still maintains plausible deniability if not.
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 19, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Well, one good thing is W_E will prob be gone now : / lol. Back to under the bridge!
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Jan 19, 2012 6:25 PM EST reply actions
I've been saying it all along and I'll say it again
Castillo ain’t going ANYWHERE.
Dedication without talent is a daydream. Talent without dedication is a nightmare.
I agree. Andy is ready to go down with Castillo if things fail again. He probably wants to retire soon anyways. One last ride with his boy. If Andy really wanted to comeback after next year, he’d hire a new dc. Think it’s win and retire or lose and retire for him.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Jan 19, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
More McLane:
One thing I was told by someone close to Reid a few wks back that stuck @ Castillo’s possible return: “Andy was talking about continuity.”
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 6:32 PM EST reply actions
I dont mind continuity and I really hope that Juans defense end in the top5 (even tho we might get torched by a single team)
by Anders Jensen on Jan 19, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Like continuing to play Nnamdi in zone and DRC in the slot, and continuing to ignore the LB corps deficiencies that everyone but Juan and Andy seemed to know about? Sounds great, sign me up.
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by Avant-Garde on Jan 19, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
You know what?
I am pissed. What the fuck was andy doing taking a vacation??? Our coaching staff needs to step it up. Get everything squared away, THEN take a vacation. I don’t care if they hired spagnuolo or not, I was SHOCKED that right after the season they all went up and took a vacation. It shows little effort. Like he just EXPECTS things will roll his way. We need a change now.
by insaneeaglesfanatic on Jan 19, 2012 6:33 PM EST reply actions
I know it has nothing to do with Spags
I didn’t even WANT Spagnuolo. I would just like some clarity on what is going on. Not like Andy has been to keen on letting the public into his crazy ideas anyways.
by insaneeaglesfanatic on Jan 19, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Well, what do you want to know? Most coaches don’t tell everyone that they’re not firing their assistants.
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any insight on next years possible DC spots? maybe they wanted to give juan two years, like they did with McD, and if that fails, they fire him
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by XxActionJacksonxX on Jan 19, 2012 6:34 PM EST reply actions
F Reid and the rest of the clan!
I agree. Andy is ready to go down with Castillo if things fail again. He probably wants to retire soon anyways. One last ride with his boy. If Andy really wanted to comeback after next year, he’d hire a new dc. Think it’s win and retire or lose and retire for him.
It’s the latter, f@ck Andy, Lurie and ever other Eagles Exec. who just give us lip service about wanting to be a champion!
furthermore, what, in your opinion, would be considered a “successful season” with juan?
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by XxActionJacksonxX on Jan 19, 2012 6:36 PM EST reply actions
Not blowing 5 fourth quarter leads.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Jan 19, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Given that the offense only scored 3 points in the fourth quarter of the losses, its not really just the defenses fault.
yes it is
it’s called situational football. The offense is no longer playing to score. Doing so assumes a risk not worthy of the reward. Juan’s defense last year wasn’t a terrible defense. It was terrible SITUATIONALLY. It was when the opposing team desperately needed a first down, when opposing coaches got creative and threw their best punch that he failed again and again and again. That’s all experience though, and this team is not built to contend for more than 2 or 3 more years. There is no time for Juan to “become” a good DC we needed one now and the FO blew it.
by RealSantaClaude on Jan 19, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well then the offense needs to play to score. They’re professionals- that’s their job. Not scoring and turning the ball over was a huge part of those losses. Not facing that fact means people blame Juan and the defense, and that’s just wrong.
Yes, Juan was inexperienced in the beginning. His players didn’t trust him. But he got better, and his players did too. I always felt it was a two year plan to win a SB. Juan now has a full offseason to improve. Continuity is very important.
So
why not have stuck with McD?
The offense should try to score, but how they do it makes a difference. With a lead late in the game, you want to put together a long, clock-munching drive to rob the other team of time to make up the difference in points. Hopefully you tack on another 3 or 7 points at the end, but chewing up 8 minutes of game time is just as or more important at that point.
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 20, 2012 8:25 AM EST up reply actions
No, it's not
Not only did the offense not score, but they made it worse by turning the ball over, putting the defense in a bad spot.
I’ll give you that those blown leads were more on the defense than the offense, but the offense contributed as well.
Go Eagles!
Only defense minded coach out there is Mike Singletary. Sucked as a head coach but look at the front seven he left in SF. Can’t say he didn’t do a good job on that defense.
Read that Singletary have a negative perception in Minny
That he would often assign his tasks to his assistants and basically didnt even work the last month of the season for some wedding. I wouldnt want Singletary around the Eagles
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by FloridaEagle on Jan 19, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
I still hope that they come out with a good d-coordinator
I don’t think Spags was the be all and end all like some ppl thought, we still need a change at that position, I hope the Eagles make the right decision in terms of who they select.
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This organization really make me ill...
Meanwhile our division rivals are playing for a NFC title… And their opponent SF is hosting getting it done with a simple formula, running the football and playing fundamentally sound defense! Reid is really that hard to get through your damn head!?
sf made it with a weak division, and they beat the saints who cant win on the road… while the giants squeaked in and had two teams choke for them
I hear you got quarterback problems i feel bad for you son...
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by XxActionJacksonxX on Jan 19, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
If the Saints defense had played/been anywhere near decent they would have rolled San Fran on Saturday.
The Niners are a good team, but the Saints D definitely made their passing offense look better than it really is.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
Turnonvers on offense killed the Saints (does that sound familiar?)
by Anders Jensen on Jan 19, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I know.
But Brees was still able to cut threw the Niners secondary when he needed to. The Niners last two touchdowns never should have happened if that Saints defense/defensive scheme was decent.
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Oh come on
The giants were mediocre the ENTIRE season . They caught lightning in a bottle, and BARELY made the playoffs. They played a REALLY sloppy GB team, and a really weak Falcons team.
BTW, SF forced FIVE turnovers and STILL ALMOST LOST…
Please get out of here with the whining
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I hope
they don’t have another run like ‘08 though, Giants fans will replace Cowboys as the most intolerable then. Especially if it’s NY-NE again..
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 19, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
They passed 42 times against the Saints.
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by Clint Eastwood on Jan 19, 2012 6:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It would be crazy if they bring Castillo back...
Just insane.
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 19, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Would it be surprising though?
We know how much andy believes in his guys and will defend them to the death.
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Let's just hope he's grown out of that phase
and wants to keep his job.
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 19, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
I haven’t had hope in Andy since JJ’s passing.
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Spags is not the only option out there, it’s not like he was the perfect fit here to begin with, looking at Washburn’s scheme.
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 19, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
C'Mon
The SF defense and the Giants defense are both pretty solid IMO light years better than our fundamentally! Our junk ball, no running the rock, offense has not gotten us anything in 13 seasons! You guys need to stop with the backing a coach who can’t get it done!
No running the rock offense?
Did you watch the Eagles this year?
They had the NFL’s second leading rusher. Only 6 backs in the NFL carried the ball more than McCoy.
That’s on old criticism…
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God
I hate this “no running” shit. Eagles fucking ran the ball – deal with it.
They
don’t always run at the right times though, or blend runs with passes. Sometimes they get stuck in ruts of IC pass, short out to the flat, IC pass, punt. With a lead, that gets frustrating, because it gives the opposing O more time on field to come back.
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 20, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
Can someone press the button for me?
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Don’t do it.
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Dwight Howard is coming to Philly. Maybe. Probably not. But we can at least hope, that's all we have.
by Eagladelphia on Jan 19, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
At this point...
I’m pretty much indifferent to what happens with the Eagles. I’m tired of the same horse shit year after year. It takes something truly monumental to make me actively detach myself from being emotionally involved in a team I’ve loved since birth, but the Eagles have managed to do it. Rooting for this team and this organization is the opposite of enjoyable; it’s downright humiliating. The entire operation is a fucking disgrace.
If you watched the tape from the last four games, you’d have seen that nothing really changed on defense. There were still coverage breakdowns, perplexing play-calls, guys not knowing their assignments… the defense just happened to be facing decidedly mediocre or just plain bad quarterbacks. Any quarterback worth a shit would’ve probably torn the defense to shreds. If you want to believe things will be different for Juan and the defense next season, then God bless you, but I refuse to put on the green-colored glasses and don’t see enough reasons for justified optimism. I just hope Joe/Howie/Andy focus on bringing in defenders who can actually tackle, that’d be a nice start.
Lurie called this season unacceptable, yet the entire coaching stuff — sans the secondary coach — looks like it will return. Seems like what happened this season was perfectly acceptable after all. That press conference was nothing but a litany of empty words, lip service from an owner who really just doesn’t get it, no matter how much he might try to tell you he does. Face it, this isn’t a Super Bowl-worthy team or organization. They have no desire to bring in outside influences to evaluate the situation and offer alternative solutions. God forbid someone who knows what their talking about tell the guys running the show that maybe they’re not the geniuses they think they are.
Seriously, fuck it.
by thehorah on Jan 19, 2012 6:47 PM EST reply actions 13 recs
Agreed 100%, every year it’s the same bullshit and it will continue to be with Castillo still here
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But for the last 13 years, we always pretty much have a chance. And that’s the best way to win a SB.
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by eagleflownsouth on Jan 19, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, if you guys don’t want to pay attention to the team, then don’t. Get off the site, its a waste of your time.
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by philiafan14364 on Jan 19, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
I was saying see ya to timiglide
I bleed green no matter what. I am not going anywhere
I grew up in Pa. but my job has taken me deep into the swamps of louisiana where all you here is "who dat, who dat" and on clear nights when the wind is gently blowing from the northwest you can hear the wimpers and sobs of jerry and his herd of cowgirls.
by eagleflownsouth on Jan 19, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
I was agreeing with you. The second part of that sentence was directed at people like timiglide and thehorah.
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by philiafan14364 on Jan 19, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
This is a classic response from holier than thou fans. I appreciate the two cents, but don’t tell me what’s a waste of my time. Besides, it’s not like I’m going to follow any other team. I’m just sick and tired of the same shit season after season. Aren’t you?
And you epitomize classic negadelphia. If you’re so pissed off at the Eagles that you don’t want to watch them any more, then leave, there’s no reason for you to come to this site anymore. And no, I’m not tired of the “same shit season after season” because Andy Reid has been extremely successful here, and will likely continue to be. Its not my fault you can’t appreciate what he’s done in his time here.
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by philiafan14364 on Jan 20, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Wow.
I was just about to write the following:
“At first I was really mad about hearing this, but now I feel really apathetic. It’s almost just like ‘whatever’.”
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
So Spags is the only option out there ?
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 19, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Its not that Spags was the only guy out there
But Andy is a fan of familiarity as it appears. So the chances of Reid going out to and getting someone “foreign” to just come in and promote his defense is slim to none. So while it is a possibility for us to get another DC, I highly doubt it will happen. I think Reid is ready to go down with Castillo more than to go get another coach.
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Give him a chance
He strayed from familiarity last year and changed a lot of things, so I wouldn’t necessarily say that, people are acting like the Eagles have announced that Castillo is returning next year.
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 19, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
If it all goes bad next year, then Reid is gone and it all starts over.
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The problem is, I don’t think it will be quite as bad as this year… it’ll just be the standard “make playoffs and lose before reaching Super Bowl” and that will be enough for them to keep Andy
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Actually I don’t agree that just making the playoffs will be enough.
I don’t know that he needs to win the Super Bowl… but I don’t know that one and done will do it.
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Tommy outlined what he thinks Reid needs to do to stay, and I mostly agree with these:
I think Reid needs to:
* Win 12 games and/or
* Win the NFC East and/or
* Have a bye in the playoffs and/or
* Advance to the NFC title game
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
For me it boils down to making the playoffs comfortably not that waiting for 3 other teams to help you out on the last day of the season bullshit AND making it to the NFC title game would be borderline fire/keep… making it to the Super Bowl would sway me to keep him
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There would have to be a playoff win at the minimum.
Even if they did barely make the postseason, it’s still all about making noise in the playoffs.
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My criteria would be:
Top 3 or 4 seed in the NFC*or* NFC Championship game.
If they get bounced out after dominating the reg season like the pack did this year, oh well. Upsets happen. It’s part of the game. Deal with it. Good franchises don’t ever make drastic changes because of 1 game. Bad franchises do.
How is that impossible for a roster of this caliber
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What's "impossibly high"
…is a standard where if the Eagles were to make it to the Super Bowl, you might consider keeping Reid around. I mean, what? People around here act as if getting to the Super Bowl is nothing more than “wanting it,” being “accountable,” “showing up,” and all sorts of other cliche foolishness. Every year, do 31 other teams not want it and not show up? It can be possible to actually really want it, and still not get it.
I think this team can do it to. I want them to do it, and I like this team’s chemistry. But I mean, my own standard is more reasonable than the championship game. You can be the best, play the best, and still get knocked out.
My own wishes – just make the playoffs. Doesn’t matter how. From there, it’s one game at a time and everyone is on a level field. It’s a hard schedule next year, there’s no cakewalk ahead of us. Looking at what’s up, I almost don’t think we can get in without winning the division. It’s going to be a slog.
Not what I said. I said if he made the NFC Champ game I’d consider keeping him, if he made the Super Bowl I’d be in favor of keeping him. L2 read.
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Point on the correction
But the gist stands. I just think this “we need a Super Bowl” or else attitude sets up for a lifetime of disappointment. Everything can go right, and it still slip away.
Let’s look at what head coaches are being hired around the league this year. One of the stars looks to be our own OC. Who from amongst this coaching class would you prefer us have that Reid?
Just making the playoffs this year isn’t good enough, IMO.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, it’s not good enough. I’m just pointing out how quickly a team’s fortunes can change pre-playoffs and post-playoffs. Giants pre-playoffs: backed in, somewhat sad. Now they are perceived as contenders for the crown. Packers pre-playoffs, invincible, now they’re getting some eye rolls.
First step: make playoffs. Next step, game-by-game. How we make the first doesn’t matter; once we’re there, well obviously we’ve got to get as far as we can.
I don’t know that a title game appearance is a must for him to return, but I do think a playoff win is. At least.
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Well if you want to go down that route:
He has the best win total (120), winning percentage (.609) and playoff victory total (10) in team history.
Since he was hired in 1999, no other franchise has earned more divisional playoff round appearances (7) and only Bill Belichick’s New England Patriots have matched Philadelphia in conference championship game appearances (5).
Among coaches with 100 games under their belt, Reid’s .609 winning percentage is 11th in NFL history and second among active coaches behind Bill Belichick (.724).
I think a lot of people are reading into Jeff Lurie's press conference that Reid must go deep in the playoffs to keep his job
I agree that a 6-10 meltdown in 2012 will get Reid fired. But I truly believe 10-6 and a playoff appearance means Reid is here. If Lurie didn’t pull the plug on Reid after this debacle of a season, he won’t do it if the team improves to 10-6 and makes the playoffs. Especially after he said this past season was “unacceptable” then went and accepted it.
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by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Jan 19, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think that you can set those parameters now
It’s too early. What if we lose some key players to injury for an extended period of time? Things can happen during a season that are not under a coach’s control. I think that you need to wait until the season is over and look at the entire body of work. You don’t want to make excuses but you also have to be realistic.
To me I think that the offseason is more critical to evaluate. Players don’t quit on Reid, so it really boils down to who makes up the coaching staff, and who are the players going into the season. I want to look closely at how Castillo does if he stays. I want to look at how we address the holes linebacking corps on our defense. Stuff like that will make or break Reid, IMO.
Go Eagles!
You set the parameters
but obviously if Vick/McCoy were to miss half the year then you re-evaluate. Duh.
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 20, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, I know that
But it’s silly for Lurie to come publicly and say, Reid must do x to keep his job. That was my point.
Go Eagles!
I think after next year Reid retiers regardless. Team is built to win now and he won’t wanna rebuild again. Ok that is cool, but bring in a dc that can win now. We need a dc guru. Spag’s is gone, but someone else then someone with 1 year of experience and couldn’t get it done this year??? @&#*((#$)#! lol
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Jan 19, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
I would rec this so hard if I could
Its like dating the hot girlfriend that made out with a guy at the club. You guys fought, but everything seemed to be made up despite you having some reservations. Still, you gave your girlfriend the benefit of the doubt because you love her.
Except yesterday, she just went and banged the owner of the club. And you just about had your shit and kick her out of the house. There comes a certain point where “hope” and “faith” just aren’t enough anymore. Expecting something to change when you see the exact same thing over and over again is stupidity.
That’s what this organization feels like. Jeff Lurie, saying that we have had by far the most disappointing season since his ownership. And we bought it. We didn’t have to see Steve Spagnuolo come here, but at least some degree of change so that we knew this organization meant what they said. But no, now it’s all but assured that Juan is coming back.
Fool’s Gold indeed, Jeff.
I don't see how anyone could consider the Saints job as the best situation.
No defensive coordinator will ever get any credit for a victory in New Orleans. Payton and Brees will always get the accolades there. That team is set up for defenses to fail. They score quickly and win shootouts they barely give their defense time to catch their breaths between series. You never saw Greg Williams get any head coaching offers even though, by all accounts, he’s a very good coach. Probably why he left to be with Fisher.
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Dennis Allen got a promotion after working on that defense.
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Spags
is already a name-brand coach, so he’ll get recognition if they win another SB.
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 19, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Greg Williams is too believe me.
he has had excellent defenses everywhere he’s coached except maybe the Saints. Frankly if I had the choice between the two for the Eagles I’d probably go with Williams. They have similar styles but Williams has a longer resume.
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by no1pipelayer on Jan 19, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Well, the Saints D was good the year they won the Superbowl.
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Was it even in the top 15?
As I remember it they led the league in takeaways and were average in all the other categories.
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by no1pipelayer on Jan 19, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't he
going to join Fisher in St. Louis though?
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 20, 2012 8:36 AM EST up reply actions
Bring back the 46 defense
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by Clint Eastwood on Jan 19, 2012 6:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think people are going to blow this out of proportion
Overreaction time, calm down folks, don’t have a cow…
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by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Jan 19, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
He hasn't signed anything yet(reportedly)
Please say this is like the Nnamdi Trade where we come in last minute and scoop up spags. lol
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Not realistic at all. Firstly because no legitimate sources reported that Nnamdi was signing elsewhere.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know about legitimate....
but wasn’t there a big thing about dallas closing in on him. I’m not trying to say us getting spags now is even remotely possible. but wishes(wanted to say dream, but you know how that goes) come true, albeit rarely. I personally am not giving up hope for next season because we didn’t get spags. There’s alot more bits and pieces to the off season yet.
Oh to have the power over my wife like my brother does his.
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Hopes
I hope this is like the reports last year that Nnamdi was going to the Jets and then breaking news said he signed with us. He hasn’t signed the contract yet. I’m just hoping lol
(See what I said above)
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
Another factor in favor of the Saints was more job security for Spags… Think about it; he’s moved around a lot the past few years. Say he gets hired here and the team doesn’t do well. Assuming Lurie comes to his senses and axes Reid, then there’s no guarantee the new head coach would want to retain Spags. Coming here could potentially be a one-year position for Spags, and I can’t be mad at him for not wanting that.
Yeah, just one of a few reasons why the Saints are the better situation for him.
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I would of loved to have Spags as our DC but our D did play good to end the season & who knows we could still have a change. We know that there will be a new secondary coach and if Andy doesn’t replace Juan with Todd Bowles maybe Bowles is our new secondary coach
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It seems unlikely Bowles would want to come here as a secondary coach when he’s been interviewing at other places for DC/HC jobs. Even if those interviews haven’t been extremely serious, it just seems unlikely to me he’d “settle” coming here as a secondary coach.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
Well, that depends on whether he gets another job.
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I thought he was still under contract with the Dolphins?
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
No he’s not, & he has said he’s interested in joining the Eagles so if Andy doesn’t get rid of Juan he could become secondary coach or as bula said assistant HC/secondary
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Juan getting another shot
yeah we need a secondary coach, go get Brian Dawkins!!!
by pragit on Jan 19, 2012 7:04 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Andy will put Juan in a better position to win this year.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Jan 19, 2012 7:07 PM EST reply actions
Just bulldoze the stadium all ready.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
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by KByars on Jan 19, 2012 7:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
SMH
Screw Andy, and his; “putting guys in a position to do a better job of that there!” I am soo fuckin sick of hearing his pressers w/ for the last 13 season he is still addressing the same problems. What has this guy done but regress over the past 8 seasons???
Is reid still on vacation??
So he didn’t even bother interviewing spag
No, he’s back now.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Andy this summer….“After interviewing numerous canidates ummm uhhhh for the dc position, we decided to stick with Juan. If someone has 10, 20 or even 30 more years of proven success, can’t go against Juans job last year. He picked it up and the whole team supposts him. My bad last year, didn’t have him in the right position to win. Ummm uhhh ok well done talking now and not gonna really answer and questions.” Can’t you see it now.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Jan 19, 2012 7:12 PM EST reply actions
Norm Parker maybe as a consultant or at least Tom Bradley as lb coach
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Norm Parker maybe as a consultant or at least Tom Bradley as lb coach
by Shawn Alexander on Jan 19, 2012 7:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
F it.
Wide-9 seems to be figured out. Offensive line seems to be figured out. I’m looking forward to next season. #RealDreamTeam
by BrandonB on Jan 19, 2012 7:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yup, that’s another reason why no major changes on defensive staff.
by Shady25 on Jan 19, 2012 10:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
People are enamored by the big name
I think there is a good chance Spags doesn’t turn out to be as great as everyone thinks he is. The Eagles finished with a top ten defense, will the Saints finish with one next year? What will people say if the Eagles have a good/great defense next year? There is always a major issue that Eagles fans like to bitch about.
Cowboys suck.
He's overrated but still a great coach
The guy was in high demand and interviewed with several teams before finally deciding on the Saints. He’s still a great coach. If Juan Castillo got fired tomorrow, I can’t think of one team that would bring him in for an interview.
This
There is always a major issue that Eagles fans like to bitch about.
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by philiafan14364 on Jan 19, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What's wrong with bitching?
We’re losing every year. Tempers are short.
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He had a black eye one day, but he wouldn’t say just what happened to him
Charlie got mad in class one day, and stood up with a .22 pistol
Told everybody that he couldn’t take it anymore, he was over being the victim"
This Eagles era is reminiscent of the mid-70's.
You just know there is no way we’re going to win anything the way things are being run.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
Which is the Eagles era
That you consider the “most winning?”
Again, regardless of the yards given up, Eagles only gave up 0.7 points per game less than the Saints.
Seems like two pretty comparable defenses in the only stat that really counts.
3rd and 1 counts.
getting off the field when u need a stop counts. creating turnovers count. Not extending drives with headless penalties counts. You won’t find a stat for those though.
by RealSantaClaude on Jan 19, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Of course it counts
But you can’t be hard on a defense for when it does give up that one single yard. It’s hard not to get a single yard as an offense in this league.
You can give up three 3rd and 1's in a single drive, and still give up no points.
You can create tons of turnovers, but if you don’t score from them, you gain nothing. At the end of the day, its how many points you give up. And the Eagles D did an adequate job of not giving up points.
People are enamored by the SB ring he earned by shutting down the Pats offense the year Brady threw for 50 TDs. He’s the real deal.
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by Avant-Garde on Jan 20, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
I said all this before
And other people speculated that we were working “behind the scenes”. REAL teams don’t bullsh#t or p#ssyfoot around; they identify “their” guys AND go get them. The natural apathy we all feel inside is the collective body of 13 years of work. All the “I must do better as a coach to put my guys in better position to win” or “I take full responsibility” postgame speech/interviews are just meaningless drivel. We truly AREN’T a Super Bowl caliber team or even a playoff team. I said in earlier posts that OC and DC are 2 positions that you don’t f#ck around with OR you get a OL coach as your DC. I can guess I will be almost 50 (39 now) before we are even championship ready after Andrew slowly put the “tip” in Lurie for 13 years. What a disgrace for an owner to state our season “Fools Gold” AND do NOTHING but accept more of the same mediocrity. Win or lose…who cares anymore?
by Lawdhvmercy on Jan 19, 2012 7:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You're still alive?
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Just because Spags decided to go to the Saints doesn’t mean that the Eagles didn’t “work behind the scenes,” or go after their man. For all we know he could’ve had an offer on the table from the Eagles and simply decided that going to the Saints put him in a better position, one in which his job is likely safe, and he has a top 3 offense to work with. If you remember correctly the whole Nnamdi to the Eagles pipe dream was dead in the water when he signed, seemingly out of nowhere. Personally I was, and still am, on the fire Reid bandwagon, however, you can’t say that the Eagles definitively didn’t make an honest effort to sign Spags. We may never know what exactly the situation was and what went on within the FO.
We're going to have a top 5 d next year.
With Castillo.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 19, 2012 7:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That’d be like a guy winning a marathon with a broken leg
Last name Ever
First name Greatest
#PayDeSeanJackson
ya mean pretty bad? they didnt play that well at all, they just played teams that played ALOT worse overall
They played really well.
You can say it was against poor competition, but there’s no debating that they played really well.
Nope.
Rex Grossman
Matt Moore
Eli Manning
Mark Sanchez
Only one of those QBs is in the playoffs, and he’s not as good as the NY-centric media is making him out to be (caught 2 teams ‘worst game of the season’ in a row in the playoffs).
by UnclaimedFright on Jan 19, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Again, you can say it was poor competition
but that doesn’t change the fact that the defense was killing teams. You know, like a good defense is supposed to.
Nope.
It’s funny how no one remembers that two game stretch when we shut down the Redskins and Cowboys. Everyone thought we’d turned a corner. Then we gave up 30 to Jay Cutler and let John Skelton walk all over us. A few games against bush league offenses doesn’t prove shit.
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by Avant-Garde on Jan 20, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly
And I don’t want to hear “Tony Romo and Eli Manning aren’t scrubs!” because although they’re both talented, your team is ALWAYS going to play a rival harder and have better gameplans against them. The Bills, even when they’re putrid, usually play the Patriots tough.
So, five good games (and one awful, Casey-Matthews-filled shitshow against the Giants) against our rivals, and two good games otherwise (I’m not counting the Rams win, the only good player on the team got hurt on the first play from scrimmage – where he was so wide open on his TD run he overextended and pulled a hammy).
I’m with some of the other posters here. Fool’s Gold.
by UnclaimedFright on Jan 20, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
your team is ALWAYS going to play a rival harder and have better gameplans against them.
Even assuming this is true, you’re not considering the other side; that Eli and Tony are going to be playing harder against us. So the point that we dominated Romo and Manning still remains.
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#FirePaulHolmgren
by philiafan14364 on Jan 20, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
If you actually look at and analayze
how the defense played rather than just the score, no they didn’t play well. The defense was still doing the same shit and making the same mistakess at the end of the year as when they were getting torched. Castillo was still putting his players in a position where they could not succeed. He learned absolutely nothing as the year progressed. As others have pointed out, we just so happened to play garbage teams.
And not only that...
we were playing bad teams with NOTHING to play for. That’s like playing two bad teams in one.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
Yeah, dude.
Giants weren’t playing for anything, they didn’t even make the playoffs. Tony Sparano’s team wasn’t playing to save his job. The Jets were totally out of the playoff picture at 8-6 when we played them. Same with the Cowboys, they weren’t in the playoffs with a win or anything.
Nope.
by bigmeanie08 on Jan 20, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
*I know the cowboys weren't
but it’s not like Romo stays in the game if it did end up mattering for them.
Nope.
by bigmeanie08 on Jan 20, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
This is just wrong
they weren’t making the same mistakes. They were shutting teams down with dominant defensive line play and much better secondary play than in the first part of the season. Even the linebackers, the biggest weakness by a significant margin, were fine. Not good, or great, but fine.
Nope.
by bigmeanie08 on Jan 20, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Except they wouldn’t be playing the crappy (or mediocre at best) Jets/Dolphins/Redskins/Cowboys every week.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Top 5 def, in what catagory?
Yards don’t count . Teams run the ball with the lead, so the yardage is low.
How about points allowed?
Or better yet top 5 in games won, that’s a real stat.
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 8:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Top 5....
….in blown leads, missed tackles and idiots on the coaching staff.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
Blown leads and missed tackles are on the defense.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
No their not. When the offense keeps turning the ball over, and fails to score more than 3 points in the fourth quarter in the 5 blown leads, and when special teams keep screwing up, its not on the defense.
The missed tackles are on the defense- but that’s personnel problem, not a Juan problem.
The defense gave up a shitload of points in those losses.
It is a bad defense coached by a bad man.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
Not according to the numbers. They are 12th in DVOA.
He is not a bad man- he showed he has ability to beat bad teams. That’s a good start.
The defense did give up some points, but again, you didn’t address the fact that turnovers killed this team.
You just want to hate because you can.
I'll repost this here.
In the 8 Eagles losses
Castillo’s defense surrendered an average of 251 yards passing, 134 yards on the ground and 30 points.
In the 7 Eagles wins
Castillo’s defense surrendered an average of 207 yards passing, 85 yards on the ground and 11 points.
The 8 quarterbacks who lead their teams to beat the Eagles were
Tavares Jackson
Tom Brady
John Skelton
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Alex Smith
Eli Manning
Matt Ryan
Jay Cutler
The 7 quarterbacks who lost to the Eagles
Sam Bradford
Rex Grossman and John Beck
Tony Romo
Eli Manning
Matt Moore and Loseman
Mark Sanchez
Sam McGee or whatever the fuck his name is.
This is a tale of 2 defenses that is not as DVOA-able as you seem to make it out to be. At some point, our less than juanderful defense has got to beat good teams, and the numbers here don’t lie. The defense has fattened up on bad teams and gotten completely raped, gashed and embarrassed by quality opponents.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
by EvilBanner on Jan 19, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I still say that if Steven Jackson doesn't go down
We lose that game.
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"Brian Dawkins is always 100% Eagles related."--macjack09 & BGN Nation
Yes, and the two defense are two different parts of the year. The bad was early, and the good was later. That indicates improvement to me. It sucks they didn’t get to play a good team at the end, but they did beat down the bad teams. You can’t just ignore when they played the good teams. That’s a major factor.
So yes, the defense is DVOAable as I make it out to be. You also ignore how bad the offense was in those games. The Eagles lead the league in turnovers- and turnovers are pretty much directly tied to winning.
Man did we play some terrible QBs this year. Brady’s the only top 10 guy on that list, and he torched us.
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by Avant-Garde on Jan 20, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Rodgers
Brees
Brady
Vick
Stafford
Rivers
Newton
Schaub
Roethlisberger
and a healthy Peyton Manning
For one game, I’d take any of those 10 over Romo or Eli.
I'll give you a cookie if you know what my pic is from.
Damn
I trolled the shit out of you guys…
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 19, 2012 9:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good.
Spags had one good year when the Giants’ front four was just superhuman. He’s an unproven commodity and it’s hilarious that so many people thought that he was the Savior of this team when the issue this season was clearly offensive turnovers from the beginning.
Nope.
So in one year with a great D-Line, he lead the Giants to the Super Bowl, where he shut down 50-TD Tom Brady and the Pats offense. Clearly, he wouldn’t have done well in a defense with Trent Cole and Jason Babin.
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by Avant-Garde on Jan 20, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
I’m okay with it, for a couple of reasons. Spags was not going to be the panacea that everybody thought he would be. Changing the scheme again can be worse that having continuity. And who knows how the Washburn thing would have played out.
by bdawk4ever on Jan 19, 2012 7:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
People are overreacting
It hurts a bit but people are acting like Spagnuolo was the greatest defensive mind ever when the issue with this team is still largely personnel defencies at LB/S
Roseman/Reid actually have to draft defensive players this year who come in and have an impact right away next year. Also have to find make 1-2 savvy FA signings on the defensive side too and hope that Allen/Graham actually show anything over the course of a season.
by MG77 on Jan 19, 2012 7:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Roseman/Reid actually have to draft defensive players this year who come in and have an impact right away next year.
You’re asking too much.
"truTV is like BET for white folks." - Chuck
"Brian Dawkins is always 100% Eagles related."--macjack09 & BGN Nation
No he’s not. We still have plenty of 5th-7th round picks to find starters with.
I'll give you a cookie if you know what my pic is from.
by Avant-Garde on Jan 20, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
Uh...
Where the hell have you been? What rock did you crawl from underneath? We tried that..hence the failed “Dream Team”…sh#t..just use all our ammunition to draft real talent in rounds 1-3. Stockpiling draft picks isn’t working
by Lawdhvmercy on Jan 19, 2012 9:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
OMG JUAN IS COMING BACK????
Dudes, calm down. I was just as flabbergasted as the rest of you when they selected Juan to be the DC and of course we had an absolutely shitty year. That being said, stop being such melodramatic pussboots about it.
‘Oh, I’ve loved this organization for 37 years and its the same bullshit every year. I’m done with this team, etc., etc.’ Let us be real here, you’re still going to watch. It is frustrating watching these assholes play but in the end, it is a sport. Juan Castillo isn’t raising your taxes, or shutting down the internet….he is an ASSISTANT coach on a football team—an organization—which consists of thousands of people who worked equally hard to fuck up this year.
And although our ‘beloved’ Eagles are probably going to do the same old shit year-in and year-out, I’m still going to watch, and I’m still going support them the same as always.
Moral of the story: stop being such little puss-pants about the whole thing—it’s not like you have a say in anything they do so why not sit back, relax, and watch some goddamn football.
by PolskiDO on Jan 19, 2012 8:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Its funny to hear people complain and say they ’won’t watch the team anymore.’ Just nonsense & yeah it is a game that in the grand scheme means very little.
I'll be nestled on my couch for next year's 7-9, 8-8 campaign.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
No fucking way.
Not with the asshole at DC and the softie at HC.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
Two things the Eagles need to nail this year in draft/FA
Is MLB and SS because Chaney/Matthews aren’t answer at MLB and neither are Coleman/Jarrett at SS
Jarrett was only a rookie but he showed very little exception general confusion when he got on the field and Coleman simply isn’t fast or big enough to play SS as a starter in the NFL
Allen hasn’t exactly shown enough that he should be automatically given the job at FS again but I imagine this what will happen.
Per Mort:
For #Eagles fans, Spagnuolo really wanted something fresh, something new, or don’t think he would’ve coached this year.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 19, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions
Reid will get blamed regardless.
Its all about the []_[]
#FirePaulHolmgren
by philiafan14364 on Jan 19, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
it's not that he's on vacation
or didn’t get Castillo. It’s that a team that wrapped up it’s season 3 weeks after us has signed a D coordinator already and we have heard nothing when we need one more than they did.
by RealSantaClaude on Jan 19, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair
pretty much every team needed one more than they did.
Nope.
by bigmeanie08 on Jan 20, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Window=Closed
This team is not going to win anything next year or in the forseeable future. We are stuck with Reid and Juan for another year and after that stuck with a much less mobile Vick.
I don’t care how “young” our team is. Young doesn’t equal good. I feel about the Eagles the same way I feel about the Sixers—apathetic because I know they will never be good enough to win it all. At least the sixers play hard, Ill give them that..
Come on, the Eagles don’t play hard?
Look, every year they have a good chance at the playoffs. If they can get lucky and stay healthy- they could win it all.
DRC, Asante and Desean do not play hard.
Truth.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
exactly.
You see that hit that Donte Whitner put on Pierre Thomas ? When has ANYONE in the Eagles secondary laid a hit on someone like that last year ? Hits like that CHANGE GAMES.
Green Bay was one of the youngest teams last year when they won the Super Bowl
But they also run a much better system up there in Green Bay. Our window isn’t exactly closed, but its jammed pretty hard and there’s going to need to be a lot of effort to get it open before the season starts.
This might even have been an option .. . .
But why didn’t we offer a contract to spags(if indeed we did covet him so much) to be DC here a period of time with an agreement to take over as HC(or have first shot) in the case of AR retiring or leaving(or fired). That way spags would take on less pressure now, essentially be able to build a team(or at least a defense) that he won’t have to overhaul/change if he becomes HC. True, right now New Orleans probably looks more ‘stable’ and attractive, but Payton doesn’t even look close to retiring or being fired. So spags next HC job will be with a team that has fired the HC and he will need to come in and overhaul, more than likely have a year or 2 of teething problems etc, which will put him straight back into the hotseat.
Oh to have the power over my wife like my brother does his.
His sons names: Iverson and Avant
Yes, we are a philly everything family.
just got back from practice...didnt read comments but
jack del rio?? could he fit? is he being talked about on here at all?
claude giroux and shady mccoy. the future
The Juan apologists are all over this thread...
…to hear them spout their Nova Care/Spadaroesque bullshit, you’d think that juan the asshole was the next Dick LeBeau. But he’s not. He’s a goddamn moron who undeservedly got a job from a stupid friend.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
by EvilBanner on Jan 19, 2012 8:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Oh yeah...
…7-9, 8-8.
Hopefully that will be good enough to win the division.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
None of us say he is the next Dick LeBeau. There is a lot to be said for continuity.
And he’s not a moron. A moron would’ve gotten killed by the 4 teams they beat. He didn’t. His defense dominated like they did.
He is an undeserving prick who got done dirty by his fat friend.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
Seriously
All you do is bitch about how much you hate this team and the way it’s run. Why bother rooting for a team you dislike so much?
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 19, 2012 9:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I just hate Reid, Banner, Roseman and Lurie.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
Find a new team
You’re not forced to follow the Eagles if you hate it so much.
Here is a better question:
If the eagles do somehow end up with kuechly, vontaze or high tower, do we still hate Juan?
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 8:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't know about that
If we actually value linebackers , I might just juan’t to change my mind on him.
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 9:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My Prediction:
We’re going to play a team like Cleveland or Tampa Bay to start the season and our defense will play well and the everyone who supported Juan will say that they were right.
And then the next week when we play a contender…
"I once had a friend named Charlie, and Charlie was always late to school
He had a black eye one day, but he wouldn’t say just what happened to him
Charlie got mad in class one day, and stood up with a .22 pistol
Told everybody that he couldn’t take it anymore, he was over being the victim"
My prediction: we are going to play a good team and beat the shit out of them. And we’ll be a high seed for the playoffs.
I don't see 10-6
According to the Eagles’ website, they play the Falcons, Bengals, Ravens, Lions, Saints, and Steelers. All playoff teams. This team has struggled against playoff teams the past couple of seasons. Plus they play Carolina, who could be a surprise team. I could see Cam Newton kicking the crap out of this team.
I hope you’re right, but I really don’t see 10-6.
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Jan 20, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Without some LB support, Cam Newton is going to eat us alive.
I recall Tom Brady and Ryan Fitzpatrick running right up the gut on called-on-the-fly QB runs, and gaining ten yards on us.
What Cam will do in that situation will be disgusting.
by UnclaimedFright on Jan 20, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I would have been happy to have Spags here, but it’s not the end of the world, unless he could play linebacker at a high level.
I’m more interested in seeing how we upgrade the defense during free agency and the draft.
Go Eagles!
what you're more interested in
means nothing with Juan here.
by RealSantaClaude on Jan 19, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Look at it this way. Andy started.the season with Juan and went out to get DRC,Jenkins, Babin and Nnmadi.. Imagine what he’ll get this year.
Optimistic approach..
by TimmyGee on Jan 19, 2012 9:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I can't wait
Juan is just salivating at the thought of Darrelle Revis playing outside linebacker for his revolutionary defense.
by RealSantaClaude on Jan 19, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
you’ll all convince yourselves that keeping Juan was a good idea by training camp. Then in November, when the Saints are 11-0, the reality of what just happened will set in.
by RealSantaClaude on Jan 19, 2012 9:32 PM EST reply actions
Weren’t the packers 13-0 with a shaky defense…
by TimmyGee on Jan 19, 2012 9:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They had a fantastic D coordinator who knew how to hide his team’s flaws.
by RealSantaClaude on Jan 19, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
No
They had Aaron Rodgers leadin a dominate offense that was covering up for their defense.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Jan 19, 2012 9:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
that too
I was speaking on last year’s team though.
by RealSantaClaude on Jan 19, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
C'mon guys
I for one am pissed off. Not by the fact that the eagles didnt hire Spags to be their new DC, but because of all this disloyalty coming from these so called eagles fans. Real fans dont cheer for their team to lose to get a better draft pick. Real fans definitely dont go nuts just because their team didn’t hire the DC they wanted. Seriously its embarrassing, Andy is the coach of your team and if you’re not okay with that then dont be an eagles fan. He has lead this team to 126 wins and only has had 2 losing seasons in 13 years. To me this sounds like a great coach, but after reading some of these posts i would have thought he was the the leader of al queda. Have some faith in your team and stop acting like the world is going to end just because Juan Castillo is going to be eagles DC. show some support for your team FOR ONCE.
GO BIRDS
by eaglestrike on Jan 19, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Jeff Lurie
and his business partners very much appreciate your stance.
by RealSantaClaude on Jan 19, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If you don’t tow the party line, just fuck off? Fuck that shit. The Eagles are a business, a business that’s provided the same inferior product for 13 years and still refuses to admit that maybe they’re doing something wrong. If we, the consumers, don’t get mad and tell them to get their shit together, what incentive do they have to change? If they’re so consistently incapable of winning in the playoffs that lifelong fans simple accept that nothing’s going to change and we’re not going to win, that’s their fucking problem. But by all means, keep blindly following the leader. If history’s taught us anything, it’s that blind faith in your superiors always works out for the best.
I'll give you a cookie if you know what my pic is from.
by Avant-Garde on Jan 20, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hat’s provided the same inferior product for 13 years
smdh
Its all about the []_[]
#FirePaulHolmgren
by philiafan14364 on Jan 20, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Also
lets take it easy with the whole “hey, Juan and ‘one’ sound similar, so I’m going to use them interchangeably so people can see how witty I am”.
You chastise the media for taking the term ‘dream team’ out of control but then come in here and say stupid shit like ’We have juan bad defensive coordinator and nobody juanted to played for somejuan who had no experience".
Give it a rest—or go hang out with Steve Wyche and his incredibly subtle racist remarks.
juan must be let go
The Eagles have become the Chicago Cubs of football
Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!
by EagleDomiNation on Jan 19, 2012 9:59 PM EST reply actions
How so? The Eagles have made the playoffs 22 times since 1947. The Cubs have made it there seven times in the same period, 17 since 1906. We’re doing a bit better than that, and I don’t see how not signing an average DC makes us comparable to the lowly Cubs.
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by AnthroEagle on Jan 20, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
When is the last time that the Cubs have won a championship?
THAT’s how we compare to them. We haven’t won jack shit. Not one effing Super Bowl.
Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!
by EagleDomiNation on Jan 21, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
PLAY DRC AND NNAMDI IN MAN
FOR GODS SAKE
claude giroux and shady mccoy. the future
by griffeagles on Jan 19, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
One of the dumber criticism of Castillo especially on the plays that Nnadmi got beat on for TDs this year (they were man in all but one)
by MG77 on Jan 20, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
spags + Babin + cole = sucky for rest of the nfc
thank you based god.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
so pissed
seriously, this is horse shit. damn them, i cant believe theyre this incompetent and stupid. but come training camp, i will get my hopes up and expect great things from this team like each and everyone of u.
Ooopsss...
Someone put up a Are You Mad? super funny gif with Juan please. Love those and need to laugh
by Lawdhvmercy on Jan 19, 2012 10:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Johnnie Lynn??
Has he spoken since being fired? I would really like to hear what he has to say. He was an “outsider” brought in and fired after one season. Would like to know why. Maybe he had a problem with Castillo and Reid got rid of him. I think any DC would have an issue with an OL coach becoming a DC with no experience.
by Shady25 on Jan 19, 2012 10:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Fuck
#JuanmoreyearofJuanjokes
Formerly number5
RIP JJ
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Fear Tebus(Tim 3:16)!!!
Its okay the world will end before the season is over anyways
:(
Me Gusta Los Eagles
by RanjeethR on Jan 19, 2012 11:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
For real
we might as well not play next year
"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company
HAR HAR HAR!
Look at you animals cambalize each other. Next year sure is looking super for us cowboys!
Why would spags return to this powder keg?
<----------- Crazier than a shit house rat
by Jerral Wayne Jones on Jan 19, 2012 11:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
next year is looking good for the Cowboys?
what? You’re QB just flunked out of the playoffs for umpteenth time in his career, is hitting the end of his career while his team is trying to rebuild, your coach easily is going to cost you at least 2 games next season, Brent Celek branded his name on your defense’s ass cheeks right next to Shady Mccoy, your GM won’t address needs, you have as many playoff wins in the past 11 years as the Houston Texans and Detroit Lions, your the only team in the NFL that has had so little success that people still root against. What is going for u guys? im confuss
by RealSantaClaude on Jan 20, 2012 3:01 AM EST up reply actions
Star power baby
I got that star power, the ability to look past “high motor” guys and draft fucking animals that will hunt and kill. Who are you drafting after us? Let me guess… A TE/FB? Its my pick because your coach cant draft for shit. He likes the softies that can read good and shit.
I draft star power…
<----------- Crazier than a shit house rat
by Jerral Wayne Jones on Jan 20, 2012 3:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
any more players get into fights at night clubs lately?
Last name Ever
First name Greatest
#PayDeSeanJackson
Not that you'll heat about.
First rule of fight club is that we do not talk about fight club.
Training animals over here. Wolfgang Ryan is training up a mean defense.
Ps lil Wayne is a bitch
<----------- Crazier than a shit house rat
by Jerral Wayne Jones on Jan 20, 2012 1:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Animals I tell you
Lil Wayne was Dez’s mission…
By all accounts, Dez completed his mission
<----------- Crazier than a shit house rat
by Jerral Wayne Jones on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Hey look at everyone acting immature
And pretending they know what’s best for the Eagles. Sheesh, guys.
Formerly DeSean10
36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green
The most armchair GMs
crying like [that character] from [that reality show] about [something they’re upset about]
Nope.
by bigmeanie08 on Jan 20, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Do we know what's best for the Eagles? No. I I know simple math my dear friend? Yes
Spags > Juan
Formerly number5
RIP JJ
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Fear Tebus(Tim 3:16)!!!
by HawaiianGreen on Jan 20, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
You don’t know this. You know nothing. Remember this and you will be forever wise.
Formerly DeSean10
36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green
by AnthroEagle on Jan 20, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
Trolling me?
Cause its BLATANTLY obviously that Spags is a huge upgrade.
Formerly number5
RIP JJ
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Fear Tebus(Tim 3:16)!!!
by HawaiianGreen on Jan 20, 2012 4:59 AM EST up reply actions
No its not. It really isn’t. Wasn’t Nnamdi obviously better than Asante until this year? Wasn’t King Dunlap obviously incapapable of being an effective starter until recently? Things that seem obvious are often wrong.
Formerly DeSean10
36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green
by AnthroEagle on Jan 20, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I hope Andy has a nice vacation because now the heat is all on him for this shit. Fantastic. Fuck Andy.
The Curse of Lombardi
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"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."
It was highly inappropriate for Andy take a vacation immediately after the abortion that was this past season. Just goes to show that the fatman can do no wrong in this organization, and continues to prove that he makes anyone and everyone his bitch, including Lurie.
Notr really
These guys work non-stop for most of the year. Right after the season is the only time these guys have to take a break. Most people get weekends off all year long. Coaches get about a month of downtime to lead into the postseason.
by UnclaimedFright on Jan 20, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Coaches work during Bye week
The FatMan probably hasn’t had a real vacation in 10 months or more. But, yeah, he probably could have waited another couple weeks.
by Live from Quahog on Jan 20, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Deep breath
Maybe rooting for this team for the last 3+ decades has conditioned me to hope for the improbable, but I still find it hard to believe Juan is back next year. Spags isn’t the only guy out there (if he were, you can’t really fault AR for hiring Juan last year), and AR is too smart not to realize that he will dramatically turn up the heat in his own chair if he doesn’t bring in a veteran defensive mind.
I will only believe Juan is returning next year when we see him once again stammering at the microphone about how he is going to work even harder so he doesn’t let Coach Reid down.
by Clyde Simmons 96 on Jan 20, 2012 1:27 AM EST reply actions
That sucks...........
Where do we go from here???
I have a bad headache, and its for BASKETBALL REASONS
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Let down, again. What a surprise. I should learn to expect these things from Andy and the Eagles. 8-8 here we come! WOO! Fire everyone.
The Curse of Lombardi
Iggles Nest
"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."
Get Tulloch in FA and draft Kuechly.
This defense needs good LB play with the wide 9 to fill the gaps the tackling has to be better. Nate Allen has to become a beast this year. And Jaiquawn Jarrett has to step up his game. He needs to be hitting the weights he needs to get stronger.
Looks like Castillo is staying put I’m curious to see who will be the secondary coach. And IMO I think one of our 2nd rd picks should be a DT who perfectly fits Washburns scheme.
Another option with one of our 2nd rd picks could be a QB like Nick Foles or Ryan Tannehill if he is still available.
by Almightypudster on Jan 20, 2012 11:02 AM EST reply actions
I'm drafting him at 14
He’s an animal that I can Add to my zoo of killers
<----------- Crazier than a shit house rat
by Jerral Wayne Jones on Jan 20, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Please do that Jerruh...
We’d all love to watch him implode, especially on the Cowboys, while Kuechly becomes a solid starter for us.
Glad it's finally over.
No more keeping false hopes alive. No more mind games. Spags, as good as a fit he may or may not be for this team, was a distraction. At this point, whatever anyone thinks of whether Castillo improved or not at the season’s end, he has a year of DC experience under him. We’ll have our young team together to start over fresh without the dilemma of a lock-out looming overhead. The team could use the off-season to get healthy, get stronger, assess their weaknesses and get their heads together. There were, as minute as some see it, good things to take away from the season’s end. If we can finally get a sensible draft pick or two (please get Kuechly or Hightower) and allow our corners to play in their comfortable zones, we’ll be fine. The guys have started to invest in Castillo and to start a new slate with that mindset can make all the difference. I know frustrations around the Eagles fandom are at an all-time high, but AR is still the best coach at the moment. Good coaches don’t toss their long-time assistants to the wind over one bad season, especially if it’s their first time in a position they’ve never dealt with before, and Castillo STILL managed to do an okay job considering how little experience he has. He’s got some now and finished with 8th overall. Who’s to say he won’t carry that forward and make this team a defensive force akin to the team circa 2004? If nothing else, we have continuity going forward and perhaps that’s all we need. I know it’s tough to be optimist, but we gotta keep our heads held high and sit back and see what this team can do now that the Spags Drama is over, and Castillo has another opportunity to focus on his role.
GO EAGLES!
"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant
AR is still the best coach at the moment.
And by that I mean firing him doesn’t improve the team and there isn’t another coach at the moment who can come in and bring the faculties that Reid does. The team’s failures overshadow the fact that he’s a great football coach.
"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant
When will the Eagles stop stepping on their own wings?
Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!
by EagleDomiNation on Jan 21, 2012 3:02 PM EST reply actions
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