More Horrible Fan Behavior... And It's Not Philadelphia
by JasonB on Jan 19, 2012 9:40 AM EST
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PrintAs much as the national media loves to stereotype Philadelphia as the place where all bad fan behavior happens and widely publicize any incident that takes place here... In reality, the epicenter of fan violence and bad behavior has become the Bay Area. Over the past year, nearly every notable act of fan violence has involved fans from that area, both as the aggressors and the victims.
In a story that was largely ignored by the national media, a Saints fan shot two 49er fans outside of a Georgia Applebees after last weekend's playoff game. When the 49ers played the Raiders this season, there were two separate shootings and a man who was beaten so badly in a restroom that he was hospitalized. Then of course, the one real widely publicized incident of the San Francisco Giants fan beaten nearly to death after a game against the Dodgers.
And now, a Saints fan who attended the San Fran v NO playoff game last weekend with his wife and two daughters wrote an editorial in the San Francisco Chronicle detailing his treatment at the hands of 49er fans.
We had vulgarities screamed at us repeatedly in the parking lots and literally nonstop by the hooligans around us in the stands. While walking through the lots we had footballs thrown at us, guys screaming curses in our faces — my daughters asked if I had heard the guy who yelled "your mother’s a whore," which I had, but couldn’t show a reaction for fear for my daughters’ and my own safety. We finally took to shadowing two cops that were strolling through the lots until we dashed for what we thought would be the relative sanity of the stadium.
The stadium was no better. Every other word from dozens of fans around us was an f-bomb shouted at the top of their lungs. There were seven or eight large 30- to 35-year-old guys directly behind us who cursed and threatened us the entire game. After one string of profanities I turned around to look at them and the most obnoxious and combative of the bunch yelled, "Do not turn around again! Do not ever turn around again" and punctuated it with a profanity. They used gay slurs repeatedly at the husband of a middle-aged couple in front of us, the only other Saints fan in our area, and called his wife a bitch.
So, just a warning to any Giants fans heading out there this weekend. You could very well be taking your life into your hands heading into that stadium.
And just to be clear, this doesn't excuse anything that may have happened here. Certainly that goon who beat up the Rangers fan after the Winter Classic deserves every punishment he gets and people like him deserve to be exposed.
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Some NFL fans are becoming like european soccer fans… And believe me it’s not nice, and it’s part of why I follow american football. You should better eliminate this as soon as possible, or it will violently hurt the NFL…
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...violently hurt the NFL...
I’m sure the soccer hooligans in Europe are really hurting the EPL or any other soccer league in Europe…Not even close, and violence among fans is something that just gets brushed under the rug unless it’s in Philly or someone dies. It’s sad and it’s horrible, but I HIGHLY doubt that people yelling insults at other fans whether they are vulgar or not is really going to stop people from going to the stadium.
I 100% agree that there should never be insults thrown around children, but people lack class and should save their foul language and insults for those who are old enough to defend themselves and understand what’s being said.
If you don't want to encounter that stuff, don't wear the jerseys
I’m all for supporting your team and taking your family. To not anticipate this is ridiculous. I agree about the point with your kid, I had season tickets for 12 years and almost every time a kid was around and some drunk made a comment a respectable fan would stand up for them. Without a kid though and your another fan of a team, yes Philly will punish you.
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That's just bullshit
Wearing an opposing jersey should never warrant the type of abuse that follows. Whether your in philly,SF, or NY, you’re a human being, not an animal. And it’s never that serious to say and do what some people do.
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by wilddre22 on Jan 20, 2012 12:07 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I agree 100%
I went to the Thursday night Seahawks Eagles game in Seattle with my gf. It was non stop cursing and verbal threats. It did not make the game enjoyable at all. I
I can hold my own but why should I have to worry about protecting myself and my gf when I’m trying to watch a game?
I couldn’t imagine going to a game with kids. It’s not a friendly environment at all. I won’t be going back to an NFL game anytime soon.
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my experiences at other teams stadiums is hit or miss. granted i have never taken a child to an away game before. tampa bay fans were kind of mean. i heard a lot of heckling and cursing. some idle threats but i was never really concerned. we lost on a 62 yard field goal that day. baltimore and washington fans were mean as well but again i was never really concerned. my favorite away game was denver. honestly, their fans were awesome. i think mike mcmahon was the qb that day and i think we only scored like 7 points. TO took a screen to the house. only time i was ever scared to leave a stadium in my eagles gear was eagles/giants playoffs 2008. they were building the new meadowlands and we had to park a few miles away. we took a shuttle half way and had to walk the rest. the parking lot scene was tough. kinda like how we would treat opposing fans. anyway, as most of you know, we won. my buddy and i walked out of there trying to avoid eye contact. turns out the giants fans were so pissed at the giants, that they didn’t care about us.
I was at that game
And there was no anti-Philly stuff around me, either in the stadium, in the bus from train station to stadium or anywhere. In fact, on the bus from train to stadium an Eagles fan tried to provoke things. But it wasn’t violent just a little trash talking. Nothing profane. Nothing threatening.
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raider fan here
My experience in denver was much different than yours, but I guess I kinda expected it being a raider fan. Had guys cussing and pushing up on me in the parking lot before game, and it got much worse once I got in the stadium, it was December and the only exposed raider gear I had was a stocking hat with the emblem, finally turned it inside out so I’d stop getting cussed at. It got even worse post game and Denver won lol, saw two different fights with raider fans getting jumped outside.
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by TillaDaDrilla on Jan 20, 2012 4:13 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I was in Seattle for that game as well
I got a bunch of shit, but never felt unsafe. I was pretty surprised at how drunk everybody around me was. Every 5 seconds some drunk would yell “fuck the Eagles” or some other vulgar shit. Can’t imagine taking kids to games.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 20, 2012 4:45 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
it's not going anywhere
ever.
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The question is though
Do they throw snowballs at Santa? That is the mark of a true malcontent and hooligan.
''All men who feel any power of joy in battle, know what it is like when the wolf rises in the heart.'' -Roosevelt
I both love and hate that story.
You know that Santa that year was just some drunk guy they found who laughed it off and threw snowballs back…
I am not saying I agree with the 49ers fan behavior but that Saints fan should’ve known better. That’s common sense why wear a Saints jersey to a 49ers game knowing that they haven’t had a playoff game since the Jeff Garcia era?
What he did was equivalent to jumping in a snake pit & not expecting to be bit. Hands down he was asking for trouble or looking for some free publicity. I know somebody is going to chime in and say freedom of speech & all that other political stuff but seriously this is a unwritten rule that I am sure everyone’s parents taught them & that rule is “Knowing When & How to choose your battles.”
If you wear enemy colors in enemy territory what do you think is going to happen? & to be honest we all know if the roles were reversed there would be some 49ers fan complaining about their visit to the Superdome. It all boils down to Knowing When & How to choose your battles
I am not saying visiting teams fans shouldn’t go to games I am saying save yourself some trouble & not wear an opposing teams jerseys
by ImperialEaglesFan on Jan 19, 2012 10:22 AM EST reply actions
I 100% agree
One of the reasons football is so great is due to the intensity around the sport. Is this activity condoned? Absolutely not, but is it expected when wearing an opposing teams jersey into a playoff game with alcohol and everything else surrounding the game, yes. You have every right to wear your colors and enjoy a game, but if you do so know this will happen. No violence was encountered, just verbal abuse. Completely understandable and something I would expect and certainly not bitch about afterwards.
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What's the difference between expecting and tolerating something and condoning it?
I’m fine for some or a lot of trash talking among adults but it’s a whole nother sort of nasty to scream you’re mother’s a whore at children…
sorry
but there’s “intensity” and there’s yelling at a 10 year old girl that her mom is a whore.
you’re just a piece of garbage if you say that in any context.
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by JasonB on Jan 19, 2012 3:44 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Disagree
I’ve been to many Eagles games at other cities. There is no way I’m hiding my fanhood.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Jan 19, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Don't forget to mention..
When the 49ers played the Raiders this season
That was a preseason game… It would be like getting upset over our yearly gang green bowl
A lot of things make sense now.
Okay, I live in the Bay Area
I go to SF games and AlWAYS , OPENLY root against the forty haters. The fan base there has become more ethnically diverse. That’s not a good thing. Plus, they ‘re mad because their team refuses to give them a new stadium . Ghettostick was trashed twenty years ago, before the ’89 quake rocked it. Eddie Debartlo said this back in the ’80’s.
And to be fair. The baseball thing happened in L.A. That city sucks. They have one of the biggest markets in the country and only one successful sports team.
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 10:32 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
So diversity is a bad thing?
and they’re the haters?.. and you’re the good guy. wow. just friggin wow. Its worse there than I thought.
A lot of things make sense now.
Gangs violence and ethnic diversity are a trifecta for shit to go wrong.
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 11:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hater is used because they won’t give their fans a new stadium. I am pretty sure it’s the oldest stadium in the NFL
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 11:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hater is used because they won’t give their fans a new stadium. I am pretty sure it’s the oldest stadium in the NFL
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 11:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Btw, the niners color( red) is also the color of a infamous gang: the norteno’s.
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 11:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Also side note
The raiders color ( black) is the color of a rival gang: the Mexican mafia . Hooray for ethnic diversity!
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 11:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If you want help digging that hole
I suggest a shovel. They are colors, unless you’re saying elmo is in the norteno’s.
A lot of things make sense now.
What I am saying is that the fan bases in the bay area have gotten much worse in the last ten years. The gang bangers show up in force at the games these days. This is in direct correlation to the teams sucking over the last ten years. So the tickets are cheap and readily available.
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 11:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What I'm saying is
that your view of diversity is appalling and racist, and you should go climb back under the rock from which you came.
A lot of things make sense now.
Ethnic diversity is a great word and a great theory. But in the real world it has LOTS of unintended consequences. It’s great for a politician or a college professor to soap box about. In the real world it causes gangs, graffitti, and massive communication issues( non English speaking people can get drivers licenses in CA.
Here is another way to think about it:
It’s kinda like having a threesome with your wife or girlfriend. Talking about it is great. The actual act , not so much. Unintended consequences.
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 1:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
There is so much wrong with this.
While yes these are side effects or diversity, they are only really present in poor areas. In other cases it leads to growth and the influx of wealth and trade in a community as well.
by nyeaglesfan624 on Jan 19, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Influx of wealth
Not in california. The immigrants are making the hospitals go broke.
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 4:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And trade
Yes I will give you that. I love food from other cultures made by people from other cultures.
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 4:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just leave
and take your incredibly narrow minded and racists thoughts with you.
A lot of things make sense now.
Name calling
That’s all you got. Really? In that case, stop being a Whiney bitch douche bag.
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 5:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thats blue not black
I had alien women suck me off when god said let there be light i turned it the fuck off I'll leave your body drenched in the blood of all your ancestors
You'll never be at peace, like the souls of child molestors I'll cut you and bless your festering wounds with alcohol This is the final call, for all the rappers that wanna brawl Immortal Technique, the wrong motherfucker to diss
'Cause I allow God to let you motherfuckers existI got a Black Panther mentality with a spic fist You don't want beef with people like me so don't pretend
I'll resurrect your aborted baby and kill it again You get no props in hip-hop like feminine men You ain't hardcore, I'll smack the shit out of your mother You wanna be gutter? I'll leave you laid out in the street Signed yours truly, the motherfucking Immortal Technique
by So. Cal Swag on Jan 19, 2012 12:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought blue was for the crypts?
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 12:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Its racially divided. If your hispanic and live north of bakersfield your a norteno wich is red but if you live south your a sureno wich is blue
But with bloods and crips it has to do with wich neighborhood you live in since their both in the same cities. So race has to do with if your a crip or southsider a blood or a northsider.
I had alien women suck me off when god said let there be light i turned it the fuck off I'll leave your body drenched in the blood of all your ancestors
You'll never be at peace, like the souls of child molestors I'll cut you and bless your festering wounds with alcohol This is the final call, for all the rappers that wanna brawl Immortal Technique, the wrong motherfucker to diss
'Cause I allow God to let you motherfuckers existI got a Black Panther mentality with a spic fist You don't want beef with people like me so don't pretend
I'll resurrect your aborted baby and kill it again You get no props in hip-hop like feminine men You ain't hardcore, I'll smack the shit out of your mother You wanna be gutter? I'll leave you laid out in the street Signed yours truly, the motherfucking Immortal Technique
by So. Cal Swag on Jan 19, 2012 1:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe diversity is an old old wooden ship.
Last Oct I went to the game at Candlestick where Kolb led us to victory. The highlight of the game was the Brandon Graham sack/fumble and Quintin Mikell running it back for a TD.
Every fan knows when you are supporting your team at a opposing teams stadium you are going to get harassed and haggled if you can’t handle it stay at home.
by Almightypudster on Jan 19, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
...except at Packers games
some friends of mine went to Lambeau earlier this season as big Raiders fans. All dressed up and everything. They went expecting a fight, but mostly got friendly handshakes and “Thanks for supportin’ our economy! Goo Pack!” Left their backpacks in a local’s backyard, who then found them after the game to return it. What’s with these people??
SMH
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 19, 2012 11:19 AM EST reply actions
As a soccer fan, believe me, the fan behavior in America involved in football, hockey, basketball, etc is NOTHING compared to European soccer; they take that shit to a whole ‘nother level. At this point, it’s almost as if violence is expected. Not only that, but sometimes fans will even join together (with fellow fans or rival fans) to poke fun at non-caucasian players and go on racist tirades. I can’t even begin to explain how many times I’ve seen fans throwing bananas on fields to african footballers. Shameful. I mean, imagine Eagles fans and Cowboys fans joining together to poke fun at Michael Vick for being black. So ridiculous.
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I’m not the best informed about soccer or soccer hooliganism, but isn’t it the case though that really a lot of that doesn’t actually have much to do with the game?
Ok, the gang from north london wants to go to south london and start shit. “Oh look, North London plays South London today. Let’s go, blokes!”
It’s just kind of an excuse to act on regional grudges that are there anyway, whereas U.S. sports violence seems like it is really linked to “I hate and/or am going to verbally abuse this guy because he’s rooting for the other team.”
(A notable local exception that I can think of is the guy who was killed in the Phils parking lot. Seemed to have nothing at all to do w/sports fandom vs. a bar fight that just happened to occur at the bar attached to the stadium)
It’s just kind of an excuse to act on regional grudges
Kind of, but that seems like only a small reason. They all get drunk as fuck and that certainly is one of the reasons. Also, in general, Europe is pretty damn racist (and I’m not trying to bash Europe). Plus Football in Europe is WAY bigger than American Football in America. Because of this, there are more diehard fans and the game itself is a bigger deal to them
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I realise I’ve countered a few of your points throughout this thread but this one is spot on (and i’ve missed it out too). People get shitfaced beyond belief, especially in the UK. There is a drinking culture and a footballing culture that collide explosively on match day.
Europe as a whole is about as Racist as anywhere else in the world, some countries are worse than others and visa versa. I’d say the stuff like ‘bananas on the field’ have been largely stamped out in western Europe anyway, It’s definetly not the norm.
49ers Raiders rivalry
has NOTHING to do with sports. It has everything to do with socioeconomic status and local superiority complexes, with a little gang warfare thrown in for good measure. It’s especially bad if you’re a 49er fan living in East Bay or vice versa. I think the team owners and the NFL have actually reached an agreement after this year for the teams not to play each other ever again in the preseason, and avoid regular season matchups.
'soccer' definetly is used as an outlet for pre-held grudges
You’re absolutely right, the NFL has teams so spread out its hard to get a grasp of what in-city rivalries can really be like (think college football, but blue collar grown men) but its not just fierce regional stuff that brings out the gang mentalities, teams all across Europe usualy have historical ties to something or other (to put it short i’d say 99% of all Europes problems come from historical differences) now that can be religion (Rangers/Celtic), nationalist/separatist views (Real Madrid/Barcelona) etc etc. So when people go to games and they’re chanting and shouting to fever pitch usualy they’re not saying “I hate you” its " I hate your team and what it represents". Other times the chants that people sing week in and week out may be inherently racist or sectarianist, but people tend to sing them either in ignorance or just as a show of support for the team (whether they agree with the message conveyed in the song/chant) . That’s why the teams fans are separated sure it stops people getting a chance to mingle, but it avoids the inevitable aggresion and verbal abuse from rival fans. I truly believe that most of the fans are out in force to support their team most of which their family has been supporting for GENERATIONS.
Of course there are always the hooligans and the ‘firms’ that show up purely to fight each other, they can be treated more as gangs who hide behind the face of a football team. Or the people who show up to a protest the y dont give a shit about in order to incite a riot. Scum of the earth and destroyers of the beautiful game.
It’s not as bad as it has been in Europe, but it might be time to import some of the punishments that European leagues use for hooliganism/racism. Teams face fines, or playing games behind closed doors. Fans face fines, and face being banned from the stadium for life.
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That will probably never happen. Fifa is SO corrupt. Just Google ‘Sepp Blatter’
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It's not usualy Fifa that hand out fines/bans etc
Unless of course the game is an international game or cross continental like the champions league. Usualy its the countries governing body like the FA in England who administers punishment. Using England as an example, team conduct is goverened by the FA while fan conduct is usualy governed by the football team itself, it’s not unheard of for lifetime bans for hooliganism/racism/sectarianism.
However when an English team is playing in Europe then fan and team conduct is goverened by Uefa who can chose to impose fines/ games behind closed doors etc for major or repeat offences (which have to be reported in an offical capacity, not just any old person deciding to levy a fine – See Mr Goodell)
As a Rangers supporter I know more than enough about fines and punishments from UEFA……
Has anyone seen the movie “GREEN STREET HOOLIGANS”?
by Almightypudster on Jan 19, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
You read my mind
Great movie. Try comparing Eagles fans to THAT.
by Bob_Q on Jan 19, 2012 12:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That used to be true
But its not like that as much in europe any more. The racist stuff is still there in eastern Europe and youll sometimes see firm violence in Italy and elsewhere but the really bad culture they became notorius for isn’t there anymore.
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by JasonB on Jan 19, 2012 3:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Here’s a Boston Bruins fan nearly beating up a mascot. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/watch-bruins-fan-rough-lightning-mascot-thunderbug-silly-030817485.html
i'll never understand
how fans can yell profanities at people with kids.
Alcohol. Or they are just assholes.
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+1
Ten dollar beers will turn anyone into an asshole.
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 11:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ooops....
sorry. “10 1-dollar beers” is what I meant.
I’ve never messed w/an opposing fan on gameday (and I suspect that’s true of most fans) home or away, but I have drank so much in the parking lot that I was lucky to find the stadium a couple of times. (Hey, you try walking to the Linc when South Philly is spinning.)
You take the minority of assholes in every fan base, get ‘em really drunk, and that’s a recipe for disaster.
Or both
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by FloridaEagle on Jan 19, 2012 11:55 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Assholes + Alcohol.
It’s both. Plus it’s tolerated at the stadium by other fans and security.
To any bay area fan
trying to make excuses for thing that happen are bullshit. I live in the DC area so I attend some Redskin & Baltimore games every year and I wear my Eagles gear there proudly regardless if we are playing, I get a lot of greif for it but I have never been put in a situation where myself or my family was put in harms way. It is great to represent your team where ever they may be playing and trash talk can happen, actually it is expected. Out of many diffrerent places I have been to see games and again I represent my Eagles every where I go nothing like that has ever happened. There may be the 1 drunk idiot in the crowd but he irratates his own people and usually doesnt last long at a game. So be a fan and not a fucking asshole!
Almost every stadium in every city has violent spectator incidents.
Cali just takes it to a whole new level. It’s the idiot thug gang members mainly, throw in some alcohol and some & testosterone and you got yourself an Oakland Raiders crowd. Both the stadiums in the Bay are wadded up pieces of shit , so when you’re attending the games there… you kind of anticipate a ghetto scene to break out at any moment. The professional sports scene used to be a lot better in California, I wish those times back…
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AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a clock.
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With complementary custom giant jerseys saying fuck the 9ners?
I had alien women suck me off when god said let there be light i turned it the fuck off I'll leave your body drenched in the blood of all your ancestors
You'll never be at peace, like the souls of child molestors I'll cut you and bless your festering wounds with alcohol This is the final call, for all the rappers that wanna brawl Immortal Technique, the wrong motherfucker to diss
'Cause I allow God to let you motherfuckers existI got a Black Panther mentality with a spic fist You don't want beef with people like me so don't pretend
I'll resurrect your aborted baby and kill it again You get no props in hip-hop like feminine men You ain't hardcore, I'll smack the shit out of your mother You wanna be gutter? I'll leave you laid out in the street Signed yours truly, the motherfucking Immortal Technique
by So. Cal Swag on Jan 19, 2012 1:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Philly Sports Fans
Not that Philly fans that are actually from Philly don’t do anything wrong…but a lot of the more malicious crimes committed at Phillies, Flyers etc games seem to come from fans that reside in South Jersey…
So to the knuckle heads of south jersey…stop acting a fool or start cheering for your own actual state of NJ teams or if you cant seem to stand for your states own sports teams….cheer for the NY teams like most other front runners from your state and stop giving Philly a bad rep…
New Jersey is the taint of the Northeast Corridor.
Why come you don't have a tattoo?
by goodfella46er on Jan 19, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm...
I wonder if anyone has ever thought that about doing mock reality show about that state and their taints.
by Saidrick on Jan 19, 2012 2:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hey there...
as a so jersey guy I beg to differ.
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by JasonB on Jan 19, 2012 3:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
lol
sorry!
Why come you don't have a tattoo?
by goodfella46er on Jan 19, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
Football
Is great
RUN VICK RUN!!!!!!
by DesertEagle59 on Jan 19, 2012 2:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
At least they didn't throw snowballs at santa...
That would be barbaric!
Killing people and swearing at children? Thats cool though :)
Duh
I had alien women suck me off when god said let there be light i turned it the fuck off I'll leave your body drenched in the blood of all your ancestors
You'll never be at peace, like the souls of child molestors I'll cut you and bless your festering wounds with alcohol This is the final call, for all the rappers that wanna brawl Immortal Technique, the wrong motherfucker to diss
'Cause I allow God to let you motherfuckers existI got a Black Panther mentality with a spic fist You don't want beef with people like me so don't pretend
I'll resurrect your aborted baby and kill it again You get no props in hip-hop like feminine men You ain't hardcore, I'll smack the shit out of your mother You wanna be gutter? I'll leave you laid out in the street Signed yours truly, the motherfucking Immortal Technique
by So. Cal Swag on Jan 19, 2012 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So Football's becoming just like Soccer!
These stories are the norm over here during a football/soccer game, in fact that would sound like a good day at some of the stadiums. I switched over to watching live Rugby as its all about respect on and off the field, oh and its far more enjoyable to watch.
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Rugby
is awesome, was glued to last year’s World Cup. The most impressive part is they play an entire half with NO COMMERCIALS. American sports are almost unwatchable on TV after being spoiled like that, ha.
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 19, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
I’d honestly say that commercials are one of the biggest barriers to US sports catching on in the rest of the world. Getting used to the constant stopages like timeouts and challenges and after every single play in the NFL isn’t something most people can be bothered with when they’re used to uninterupted sports. Even halftime of a football game is only 30 minutes long with maybe 10-15 minutes of commercials, most of it is analysis and discussion.
Avoiding Genrelizations
I think it is very important that we as Eagles fans remember to give 49ers fans the same courtesy of an unbiased and subjective view of the reported events that we so desperately wish the rest of the sports community would extend to us, Philadelphia fans. I am a long time eagles fan, have gone to many games throughout the years, and was also lucky enough to attend last weekends game in San Fran.
I will tell you that it was very much them same, as I am sure it is everywhere around the NFL (I have only been to three other stadiums), in that the majority, say 99.9% of the fans were passionate but still respectful to the opposing teams fans. It is only that .1%, the isolated few instances, that get reported and can cause a negative stereotype to be applied to the entire fan base. Thats where the problem lies, its a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy: one major incident brings national attention and a negative generalization to the fan base as a collective, which in turns brings a stronger focus by the media for more reports and thus a worse generalization and so on. The true problem is the generalization that is made about the collective whole, which only holds any bearing about a few individuals.
It’s no different in Philly, when I go to games the majority of people passionate yet respectful, but the ever growing consensus of how terrible our fan base is only magnifies the scrutiny of future incidents which in turn worsens our reputation.
I will quickly conclude (sorry for the long post but I personally consider Philly fans to be the best in the world and would think we would be smart enough to realize the problem isn’t individual fan-bases but individuals in them) by saying that the passion that saw in the 49ers community is second only to that of our own as Philly fans, and that it something to be commended, not attacked. You will never hear of an incident involving a Jags game, but who wants to support a team that can’t even sell out its own games.
Well I did point out that Bay Area fans have been victims as well.
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by JasonB on Jan 19, 2012 3:49 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
JasonB, I feel I need to clarify that my comment was in no way an attack on the post, and when I refer to the media that was not an implication that I was referring to you. In fact you actually make me realize that I am guilty of the true issue at hand of a gross generalization. The media, and I include all members this time including yourself and this blog, is for the most part delivering us smart and useful information to think about. It is the actions of a minority of sources (I’d say ESPN is a big time culprit) that wants to play up stories of “terrible fan bases” in an effort for attention. I am a huge fan of this blog, it is my main source for information on my beloved Eagles, and I don’t disagree that this story deserves attention. I just want to make sure all of us Eagles fans remember that we are the biggest victims of this issue of generalization, and it would be in our best interest to not stereotype 49ers fans, or of any team for that matter, in the same way that we do not wish to be clumped into the stereotypes about us.
How dare they try to out Hooligan us.
We need to redouble our efforts people. Sounds like some of you aren’t even trying.
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