Mel Kiper Releases First NFL Mock Draft
by JasonB on Jan 18, 2012 1:30 PM EST
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PrintMel Kiper has bestowed upon his first official NFL mock draft of the year and his pick for the Eagles should be a familiar name for anyone who has been paying attention to other early mocks, Boston College LB Luke Kuechly. Here's what he had to say.
The Eagles were really weak up the middle in 2011, and Kuechly is the top interior linebacker available in the draft. Since Brian Dawkins departed, safety has also been a perpetual question mark, so I could see that being considered here. But in Kuechly you get a player who can fill a massive void in the defense. He's a guy who can come in and start immediately; he's got exceptional instincts, is a very good athlete, demonstrates great form and can fly around making tackles in the middle of the field. He's just a machine. Last year, few teams were forced to utilize lesser talent at linebacker than Philly, and Kuechly can help fix that problem.
This reminds me of the year when every mock drafter on earth had the Eagles taking CB Jimmy Smith...
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I have the hardest time believing that he will fall that far to us. Even if given the opportunity, I am about 90% confident we wouldn’t take him anyways. I can’t remember the last time our first round pick agreed with the majority of mocks…unless someone feels free to prove me wrong.
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I agree.
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by thePurpleLion on Jan 18, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I have a feeling we will stay put at 15 and grab Devon Still. Someone in the trenches.
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Every year I post this:
What Mel Kiper projected we’d take in his first mock draft last year:
23. Philadelphia Eagles – Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
Well, we did go OL, but Kiper didn’t have Watkins in the 1st round by anyone.
"Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body."
― Seneca
Unless he weighs under 230 pounds and used to play safety but switched to linebacker Andy is not interested Mel…
Well he was recruited as a safety
But got moved to LB when Herzlich couldn’t play.
This settles it, we're definitely not getting him now...
Jimmy Smith, Gabe Carimi, Taylor Mays, Earl Thomas, JPP, Brandon Pettigrew, Knowshon Moreno….
sigh
A lot of things make sense now.
Who said we were supposed to target Brandon Pettigrew. I never remember that.
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He was on a few boards for us
also, Bennie Wells…
But honestly we got Shady, and while some might have had reservations back then… I think we all are happy with the outcome.
A lot of things make sense now.
(we got shady in 2nd)
MaclYn.. still holding better than the other 2.
A lot of things make sense now.
I was ecstatic
with the way that draft played out.
Quite honestly I was a little disappointed when Denver took Moreno, but immediately got over it when we got Maclin then McCoy without having to move up for him.
I really did NOT expect McCoy to be as good as he was. I watched him a LOT in college and he was amazing but I had a gut feeling that he wasn’t going to translate to the NFL. Boy was I wrong.
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Yeah
I’ll admit, Maclin was more the guy I was excited about. McCoy I saw as being the safe pick at that spot. Filled a need and it was the right value, but he wasn’t a guy I was doing somersaults over. But all-in-all I was really happy to get those two where we got them (then Ingram in the 5th… I was wayyy off on him).
back then
I think we wanted a back to compliment Westie, not replace.
A lot of things make sense now.
Being chosen in a draft
is not the final say of what a football player turns himself into, any more than being born is the final say for what a man becomes. As a coach you try to evaluate and hopefully judge intangibles, but at the end of the day the player himself has far more to do with his being a bust of boom than where he was drafted.
All this is a way to say that Shady was drafted appropriately, and he made himself into the high value player he is after his draft.
"Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body."
― Seneca
He would have been a legitimate pick.
Taylor Mays? Not so much.
I don't remember us supposedly targeting Mays, JPP, or Thomas
Mays was a BGN commodity that people were torn on for his freak athleticism, but terrible football play, JPP wasn’t ever really projected to us, he just got the Brandon Graham comparisons because he went to the Giants. Same thing with Thomas. We were never mocked to pick Thomas because Thomas was a projected very high pick. So when we chose not to go with him, it was more of a surprise that we traded up that high and didn’t draft him.
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Here’s JasonB’s 2010 Philadelphia Eagles Mock Draft Database…
Mays and JPP on that list..
A lot of things make sense now.
Haha, I remember that. I was floored when someone said we would take Tebow in the 1st. Could you imagine?
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I was floored
when someone actually took Tebow in the first…. still am. I don’t care how many times he’s bailed out by Prater, he’s still a reach.
A lot of things make sense now.
I remember a LOT of people saying that we would target Thomas.
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I honestly didn't
I always thought Carimi was the reigning thought. But then again, I wasn’t around a lot last off-season due to having to work excessively.
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Yeah, EVERYONE said Carimi. And the rest said Derek Sherrod, Mike Pouncey, Anthony Costanzo, Nate Solder, and Demarcus Love. Everyone had us taking a lineman
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Wrong Pouncey
and I don’t remember anyone saying those other names..
A lot of things make sense now.
I'm not "expert"
I knew we would select watkins
by Shawn Alexander on Jan 18, 2012 5:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, I’m talking about last year. Thomas was in the 2010 ddraft.
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We got Nate Allen in the 2010 draft.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
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Could be wrong but I think Thomas was mocked to us a lot because people thought he would be our next “Brian Dawkins”
The Legend
Yup, plus our safety play the year before was pretty bad.
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Thomas
In kipers final mock draft he has the eagles making necessary moves to trade up and get Thomas so he mocked him in our slot even though he was way higher
by eagles0133 on Jan 18, 2012 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thomas
In kipers final mock draft he has the eagles making necessary moves to trade up and get Thomas so he mocked him in our slot even though he was way higher
by eagles0133 on Jan 18, 2012 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not true..
We moved up to pick Graham when we could’ve easily picked JPP; we drafted Maclin ahead of Nicks. Jimmy Smith fell to us and we still picked a 27 y/o guard with high character. We know the rest. We were mocked for Carimi, Pettigrew, and Thomas but I believe in 2 previous drafts though
by Lawdhvmercy on Jan 18, 2012 10:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hey, Maclin's a damn good player.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Graham was the sure prospect coming out of college and had a better rookie year before injuring his knee. Maclin and Nicks have been equal good so far, its only because Nicks suddenly have 1 monster post season game that everybody think Nicks is so much better.
With DRC, Samuel and NA, what would Jimmy Smith be good for? Also Watkins played okay to good depending on who you ask.
by Anders Jensen on Jan 19, 2012 4:56 AM EST up reply actions
i know no one wants to hear it but...
I am nervous about taking an acc defensive player vs a sec or pac 10….the track record just isn’t good.
by VRFC8 on Jan 18, 2012 2:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm curious, do you have a good reference for how to see draft breakdowns by conference historically?
Your comment has me interested because I wonder if yours is a factual observation or a function of quantity versus quality (as in, there are far more visible SEC/Pac-10 success stories versus ACC because there are simply that many more SEC/Pac-10 picks period).
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um
your argument is confusing because (while i know you refute what he said) he is comparing the overall skill of the position between the NCAA conferences. To take into account the skill level of each conference you have to include the amount of people who don’t get picked, so he is actually right ACC is a lesser LB conference by track record.
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by DaaaBirdsDaBirds on Jan 18, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm looking for actual proof of that.
I’d love to see a breakdown of draftees by conference going back say, 10 years. College success does not always translate to NFL success. The SEC is obviously the best college conference and, I’m assuming, puts the most players into the NFL. That does not mean, however, that drafting an ACC defensive player is a bad decision simply because he plays in the ACC.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
That doesn't make sense at all.
First of all, he wasn’t “comparing the overall skill of the position between the NCAA conferences.” He was simply stating anxiety over the pick based off of the quality of the conferences. And, quite frankly, that anxiety is probably very real but cannot be arrived at factually.
FACT: The quality of the conferences has nothing to do with the skill level of one particular player. In other words, you can’t conclude that Kuechly will not be as good as the top interior linebacker from the SEC solely based off of the fact that one plays in a better conference than the other. By that measure, about 50% of the really good players in the NFL shouldn’t have been drafted high. As someone above said in reference to Shady McCoy, (paraphrasing) the person’s drive has more to do with a successful career than the conference affiliation of their college.
FACT: When he is measured at the combine, his numbers are not sub categorized. He will be getting measured in a controlled environment against all other players.
FACT: A player is a player. How many times do you look at a player and can’t figure out how they were as successful as they were. They aren’t the fastest, the strongest, nor are they often the smartest…but somehow, they make play after play after play. THAT is the characteristic you are drafting for.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
to clarify my comment
It is just more of an observation than statistical proof. Also I just question the competition. I know his stats jump off the charts but there are still questions about his overall athletic ability, not all scouts, but it just makes me very nervous. I would feel better if he was 250 and had the same concerns. People on here have said he can add weight but that means slower…in most players. I just need more info on him from the combine/senior bowl compared to the other lb’s.
by VRFC8 on Jan 18, 2012 7:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's what I am saying.
You have to keep in mind that even at 15, there is a reason a player falls to 15. If he was a huge, strong, smart, fast, athletic middle linebacker with good instincts, he would be the number 2 overall pick. Everyone drafted outside of the top 3 or so has something that they need to work on on the next level to be a really good player.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
Kuechly will be there, it’s too bad that Reid will trade out of the pick.
by Saidrick on Jan 18, 2012 2:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
How does
an alleged “Draft Expert” miss the fact that we’ve taken two consecutive safeties in the second round of the past two drafts? Yeah, a first round safety would be a stellar option for us…
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 18, 2012 2:03 PM EST reply actions
How does
an alleged “eagles fan” miss the fact that we’ve taken two consecutive safeties in the second round of the past two drafts and neither has played exceptionally well, consistently.
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by thePurpleLion on Jan 18, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
One
was injured, one was a rookie this year with the OL coach as his coordinator, so basically uncoached. Anyway, my point is it would be unlikely to take yet ANOTHER young safety. At this point you sign a veteran and hope his good habits rub off on the young guns.
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 18, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
lol
He actually right, imho, though. They value draft picks too much to cut bait with second round picks this soon…especially when one of them had a major injury.
Hell, Victor Abiamiri is still on this team. That should tell you everything you need to know about how soon this FO cuts bait.
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Is it because I'm black???
In that case,
How badly must have Daniel T’eo-Neshiem sucked?
I mean, even his NAME sucked!
by UnclaimedFright on Jan 19, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
He looks like a Jeopardy contestant.
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Well hopefully that means he’s intelligent enough to not bite on a play action to Brandon Jacobs for a ridiculous touchdown.
by SuburbanElite on Jan 18, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Or know
that ‘Donkey Punch’ is not likely to be a Jeopardy answer:
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 18, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I see what you did there...
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
i cant wait...
for him to still be available and the eagles ready to pick only for them to pick someone else. lol. 90% sure that is whats going to happen.
i am also excited to see who we blow our 2nd and 3rd round picks on!!!!
That's the award?
a block of stone? It looks like something left over from a kitchen remodel.
I assume it has something to do with the “4 Blocks of Granite” from his Fordham days, but still…
He has him as the 5th best WR overall
Going to SF at 31
Doubtful...
…they just drafted Kindle. Same player.
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5th?!?
He’s getting worse with age. If Jeffery is at 15 I want him.
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by no1pipelayer on Jan 18, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
I love Kuechly but man, I’m so tired of seeing him mocked to us. Can somebody switch it up for once?
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If we pass on Kuechly I wonder if London Fletcher could be a potential FA target for us. He doesnt have much tread left on the tires but…
- He has been playing like a 25 year old in Washington
- Reid has watched him put together 4, 12, 13, 12, 6 tackle games against us in the last 3 years.
- He is undersized but he has always had a nose for the ball… would the same be true in the wide9??
- would be a GREAT locker room guy and a mentor for Matthews + Rolle
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by BIBTD on Jan 18, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not a good thing Kuechly is going to us in almost every single mock draft.
Andy Reid and the Eagles front office have made a habit of doing the exact opposite of what is usually expected on draft day.
Once the DJAX situation is cleared up and the combine is in the books, mock drafts have so much more weight to them. Even if we somehow get Tulloch in FA I think it’s still a no brainer to draft Kuechly.
by Almightypudster on Jan 18, 2012 2:26 PM EST reply actions
Not the opposite
Everyone had the Eagles going OL last year.
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This reminds me of the year when every mock drafter on earth had the Eagles taking CB Jimmy Smith…
You know that was last year, right?
Everyone had the Eagles taking a CB or OL last year.
lol i was just going to post that
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Jan 18, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, thats him? Looks real intimidating
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How do you pose with a trophy
And look intimidating?
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Idk he could look more badass than that though, come on now
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either he is slouched or his jacket is entirely too big.
Either way, the photographer should have fixed that.
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by thePurpleLion on Jan 18, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
hmm
I thought it was Andy Samberg from SNL. Ha. Happy birthday to the grounnnndddd !
Yeah
From what I’ve seen, Big red hates players with character issues. that’s why I doubt we’ll draft burfict even if he’s still on the board.
though, I vaguely remember that being a slight concern with djax but I might be wrong.
by Eaglessfan on Jan 18, 2012 3:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think AR wouldnt mind picking a person with slighty concerns (Jackson wasnt/isnt anything close to what alot of other WRs are doing and have done)
by Anders Jensen on Jan 18, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
that's why we signed Vince Young
right?
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 18, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Hell we signed Vick when he came out of jail, we traded for TO. There is tons of profs that AR is not afraid of character concerns
by Anders Jensen on Jan 19, 2012 4:58 AM EST up reply actions
I think
Regardless of FA, we should draft LK. In fact I think we NEED to do both. That being said, I can easily see us only going LB in FA, and drafting a wr, qb or yet another safety.
by Eaglessfan on Jan 18, 2012 3:04 PM EST via Android app reply actions
if reid dont draft keuchly im going to scream
we been bad at linebacker forever its time for a chance take one in the first round
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 18, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
There’s no way that Kuechly’s going to fall to the 15th pick. Buffalo and Arizona both have needs at linebacker, so I’d say we would need to trade up to 10th (Buffalo’s pick) for us to have a legitimate shot at drafting him.
they have buffalo taking upshaw, and az taking an ot
Zona needs oline help more than lb help. Buffalo could take Luke though.
by VRFC8 on Jan 18, 2012 3:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
and both Buffalo and Arizona have much bigger needs then MLB.
by Anders Jensen on Jan 19, 2012 4:59 AM EST up reply actions
I hope we go D-line, WR or TE, LB or safety with our first 3 picks. Any combination of those 3 and I will be able to sleep at night.
lb lb te
Or wr (Jeffrey) lb lb, or dl(still), lb lb
by VRFC8 on Jan 18, 2012 3:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If we do not take Kuechly
does anybody think we take Barron from Alabama or that will be a reach from that 15th spot?
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have we ever drafted what was projected in the first round?
i know danny watkins and brandon graham were surprises. and broddrick bunkley i assume was also one. i love kuechly and id love him on the eagles…but how accurate have mock drafts been in the past? i feel like andy is gonna draft a linemen and if he does im legit gonna lose it
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It all depends on DJax
If we let him test the FA than I see us drafting a WR, if we sign DJax then it’s possible that we pick Kuechly. If Kuechly is gone before pick 15 then expext us to draft a O-Line player to help protect Vick. I’m happy with any of these 3 possibilities.
BTW expect a garbage team to sign Jackson if we don’t keep him because a gimmick could sell alot of seats to a hopeless fanbase.
Not that Jacksons a gimmick, just that his name alone would sell seats. I would like him to stay but if he goes I wish him the best.
When it comes to money I understand because this is a business. If I was in his position I would of been gone along time ago. He did more for this team than “Nnamdi” would ever do imo and Nnamdi got what? 60Mil, Vick got what? 100mil
yet Jackson been here working hard for the team before Vick or Nnamdi was ever here.
None of our fans talk shit about Nnamdi and Vicks contracts as being overpriced, so why cry about Jackson wanting Fitz kind of money. If we don’t pay the man believeme some one will.
I heard the birds are going to get Rainey because of djack.
by Shawn Alexander on Jan 18, 2012 5:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Michael Floyd would be a good pick at #15 if DJAX is gone.
There is a possibility Alshon Jeffery might fall to #15 as well. All of these are possibilities but if the Eagles want Kuechly and he is their guy they may have to trade up to #10 before BUF might draft him.
The front office and Reid might just go BPA if Kuechly is gone at #15.
by Almightypudster on Jan 18, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yea I would take Michael Floyd over
Blackmon & Jeffery because the dude is a beast. Teams love to strip the ball away from our little WR’s, let them try that shit with Floyd.
I don't get
where this needing o-line help is coming from. Our o-line is good and only going to get better. I would be pissed if we take an o-lineman in the first round.
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by CarolinaGreen on Jan 18, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Few reasons.
(1) Jason Peters is severely talented and has developed into the best LT in the game… I’d like to get some young super talented OLmen to learn from him.
(2) Evan Mathis isn’t a sure thing to stay. The guy got fucked year after year in Cincy then comes here and performs like a stud LG, he could take big money somewhere else or stay… But if he goes who moves into LG??? My guess would be Herremans then draft a RT because there’s some very good OT’s that seem like career RT’s.
(3) Winston Justice is being paid a lot to waste space, Jamaal’s likely going to force his way out.. That leaves Dunlap and Vandervelde as backups, I simply don’t want to trust those guys if they had to start for half a season… We need quality backups with the potential to take over for older OLmen.
Simply speaking, we don’t want to have an issue like we did when Runyan and Thomas left or run into the issues the Cowboys faced when their OL became to old… Gotta have young talent in house.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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(1) I would love a high pick to learn from Mudd, but Mudd have also showed that draft position means nothing in his scheme.
(2) If Mathis does not stay (for the love of god please have him stay), I could see us draft a career RT, but only if Mathis does not stay
(3) If we are going to draft backup guards/tackles, isnt that kinda of a waste using a 1st round pick on that?
by Anders Jensen on Jan 19, 2012 5:03 AM EST up reply actions
Ok.
(1) I would love a high pick to learn from Mudd, but Mudd have also showed that draft position means nothing in his scheme.
You do realize the whole perception that Mudd doesn’t need high draft picks to be successful is just plain wrong? He had plenty of 1st round OLmen to work with, plenty of 2nd and 3rd round guys also… Saturday was about the only late rounder that stuck (late round being after the 4th IMO)… Draft position carries some weight in ever scheme however Mudd has shown that upon being drafted and showing up everybody has an equal shot at starting.
(2) If Mathis does not stay (for the love of god please have him stay), I could see us draft a career RT, but only if Mathis does not stay
I hope he stays, he was the best LG in the game (yes better than Mankins)… If he goes there’s a few guys who’ll be there at 15 who look like they’re career blindside protectors this would allow us to move Herremans back to LG.
(3) If we are going to draft backup guards/tackles, isnt that kinda of a waste using a 1st round pick on that?
Well to begin with I never said a 1st but a high pick… Now onto why I’d use a 1st or 2nd on an OLmen, Peters is turning 30, Herremans is turning 30, Evan Mathis is turning 31 before the start of next season.. So invest high, let them sit and learn then plug them in.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Almost forgot
Jamar Chaney just got neck surgery, not a good look.
Here are the first three rounds.
Round 1—The Eagles take Nick Perry (DE/OLB) from USC. He’s 6’3, 250 (undersized)—his scouting report:
A good pass-rusher who shows some nice natural ability. Lacks a great repertoire of moves but flashes some nice moves occasionally including a spin move. Primarily a speed rusher who shows nice flexibility when turning the corner. Will occasionally come back with a hard inside move, beating the tackle with his quickness. Has a pretty strong bull-rush as he plays with good leverage and keeps his feet under him. Lacks any counter moves however, and if initially stopped he struggles to get free. Displays a good motor however and will work hard to free himself.
Round 2—Antonio Allen from South Carolina—he’s a tad on the slow side with a history of hamstring injuries
Round 3—Ole Miss—Kentrell Lockett, DE
Lockett’s injury history (knee) is the main thing holding him back. If he can prove in his sixth year of eligibility that he is completely healed, his quick first step, good motor, and decent power should make him marketable to NFL teams. His ability to play in the 3-4 and 4-3 won’t hurt either.
Two high motor defensive ends like DTN or Gocong and a bad safety. Championship.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
The fat queen has failed us again. Reid must go.
Vontaze Burfict or Luke Kuechly?
I was thinking if JJ was still alive and he had to pick out of the two, I think he would of took Vontaze because he would of fit JJ’s scheme a whole lot better.
I think the only way Spags comes is if Washburn go’s because even the late JJ’s D# would of sucked with a wide-9 front.
If Spags would bring that JJ scheme back then the wide-9 won’t fit.
So I guess if Juan & Washburn are still here then yes we need Kuechly.
If Spags is here then we need Burfict.
omg you people still exist?
Prediction: the 3-4 will be out of style in two years.
So no, I will not shut up about stupidity.
by bdawk4ever on Dec 11, 2011 1:39 PM EST
Do you even know what you are talking about? The wide 9 only talk about the where the DEs line up and in most defenses the pass rushers in passing situations often line up wide nine. The DTs in the original JJ defense was 1 gap pass rushers just like this year, but the only reason you never noticed it as bad as this year is because Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Trotter and Brown could tackle.
by Anders Jensen on Jan 19, 2012 5:06 AM EST up reply actions
ok lets play the what if game
What if….burfict shows up to the senior bowl(forget if he is even a senior, think he may be a junior so this if is pointless anywho) and plays great, shows up to the combine on amazing shape. Would that swing anyone’s opinion? His draft stock will sky rocket.
by VRFC8 on Jan 18, 2012 7:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
damn autocorrect
I guess my point is that we all have been in our early 20’s and did dumb things, but have wised up from our mistakes. Maybe the guy needed to have a bad year and fall back to earth….just trying to put a humanistic view on him and playing some devils advocate.
by VRFC8 on Jan 18, 2012 7:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I mean he'd have to
(1) Get reviews from coaches and players at the Senior bowl saying that the people at Arizona State are crazy and he wasn’t a cancer
(2) Conduct himself very professionally and maturely in interviews
(3) Really show he’s committed
(4) Have a BIG day at both the combine and bowl game.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
HAHA
Oh shit, i thought they posted a pic of a schmuck posing as Mel Kiper. hahaha
by KrumbSnatcha on Jan 18, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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