NFL Draft 2012: Safety Options Outside Of Round One
by JasonB on Jan 10, 2012 10:01 AM EST
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PrintYesterday we took a look at some options the Eagles might have at linebacker outside of their first round pick. Today ESPN's draft blog has some possibilities at another potential area of need. Safety.
T.J. McDonald*, USC (77)
McDonald committed three personal fouls in the Arizona State game, and the Pac-12 suspended him for a half after a hit on Stanford WR Chris Owusu, so, with the NFL placing such a high premium on player safety, McDonald has to become a more fundamentally sound tackler. He also needs to take better angles at times, but he's a big hitter capable of bolstering the run defense and can make plays in coverage.Harrison Smith, Notre Dame (70)
At 6-2 and 213 pounds, Smith is an effective tackler who is big enough to line up in the box. He doesn't have the speed or agility teams covet at safety, but he isn't a below-average athlete, either. He's fluid enough to stay with most tight ends and has enough range to cover the deep half.George Iloka, Boise State (68)
Iloka would struggle if asked to match up with slot receivers in man coverage, and, like McDonald, will miss the occasional hit trying to deliver a knockout blow. However, 6-3 and 216-pound Iloka has the long arms to keep blockers off of his frame and the strength to hold his own when asked to line up at linebacker depth in run support.
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Yeah.
Also, I doubt Mark Barron is going in the 1st…he should be on the list too.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
#HireSpags
Agreed
but Eagles first pick in 2nd round is Arizona’s spot… 13th?.. he may not last… and if Washington drops Landry, they could be hunting for younger talent (cue laughter, on Washington looking for young talent instead of overpaying older players)
975 is reporting that laconfora says
Spags will be in philly before Friday….
by VRFC8 on Jan 10, 2012 10:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Source It’s BleacherReport…but if LaCanfora is saying it. Also, they are saying Assistant Head Coach
According to NBC sports, Spags is thinking of taking a year off
According to 1500ESPN, Spags is now a candidate for the Vikings DC job
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
#HireSpags
sounds like more speculation...
“Spags will be back in philly by Friday” that is a cheap line. Dude has a home here
by VRFC8 on Jan 10, 2012 11:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow.. reaching...
The NBC Article is hinging on the quote spags said where he listed his two extreme scenarios (taking a year off or getting another HC job).. where he implied that it wasn’t what he wanted and wasn’t as realistic as being a DC or position coach, “everything in between – like being a coordinator again, or maybe a position coach – yeah, those are both realistic possibilities.”
The ESPN article you link actually says… “Spagnuolo could be the front-runner, according to the CBS report, but the veteran coach also might have other opportunities. Spagnuolo, a former linebackers and defensive backs coach for Philadelphia and defensive coordinator for the New York Giants, could end up back with the Eagles.”
But in earnest, I also don’t really hold much to the LaCanfora report.. as I thought I heard that Spags was going on vacation.. and will contemplate his actual actions after… so how likely is it that he’d make a decision to join us on friday already?
Anyway side question, who was calling the plays on both offense & defense (especially def ofcourse) when he was HCing the Rams? Was it him or someone else.. I’m willing to look passed some of the suckiness of his recent record as lack of talent and bad calls if someone else was making them… but if he was the one doing making the play calling, I’m not completely sold on him.. but not against him as he’d probably still be an upgrade on Juan.
Not him….
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Jan 10, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
He had a DC in STL calling the plays.
Plus, he had about 17 injuries to CB’s (and other positions) during the year. Not to mention lack of talent at other positions. I put zero weight to the lack of effectiveness of the STL defense.
Whether it was him or not...
He can’t get off blameless for the defensive performance.
Ken Flajole on defense and Josh Mcdaniels(this past regular season) on offense.
by Route36 on Jan 10, 2012 12:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Safety is a position we need to shore up with veteran talent, not more youth. If the Eagles draft safety, it will be for backup/ST purposes and won’t go for them any earlier than the 4th round.
I agree
We don’t need more safety depth through the draft. We already have Allen, Colemen, and Jarrett. Along with Colt Anderson (hopefully; depending on rehab). Another rookie safety isn’t going to do much. Bring in a starting-caliber veteran or borderline starter/depth guy to compete with Coleman/Jarrett.
Allen has solidified himself as the starter at one position in my eyes. The hate for him is unwarranted. I think he’ll be great in his third year (2nd year removed from injury).
I agree as well
More youth will turn out safety core into what we have a LB, a bunch of young middling talent without the experience to have great Instincts
by Smallbugger on Jan 10, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
If we are looking for veteran talent Jarrad Page our of Minnesota would be a great choice. I wouldn’t mind giving up a few draft picks in order to bring him here and shore up the safety position. He’s an aggressive safety that would really help with run stopping up the middle with some great tackles and big hits.
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This is college basketball.
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Phillip Thomas
Junior safety out of Syracuse. Strong Tackler 82 tackles and six interceptions in only 10 games. He’s a solid player that will be in later rounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5gHqy_K4as
what's up
did you guys get spags back or what?
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
haha and im dating katty perry...
She just doesn’t know it yet…..ssshhhhh
by VRFC8 on Jan 10, 2012 12:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Katty Perry?
Is she a prostitute look-a-like?
lol…j/k
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Will JARRETT step up?
Coming out of Temple the coaching staff loved Jaiquawn. I agree watching tape on him the kid is a incredible tackler and can lay a hit on receivers. But when some people say he reminds them of the great Brian Dawkins that is taking it a step too far. He had a shot to start this year but Coleman beat him out. Now with a full offseason to prepare maybe Jarrett can push to be the starting SS. But Kurt Coleman won’t go down without a fight. I do agree bringing in a veteran safety via FA makes alot of sense. But I can see us drafting a safety in the 2nd rd for a 3rd straight year. Wouldn’t be shocked to see us draft a QB with one of our 2nd rd picks as well. But I just hope we get Kuechly in rd 1 on April 26th.
by Almightypudster on Jan 10, 2012 12:53 PM EST reply actions
i used to think a qb would be one of our 2nd picks
But with AR pretty much being in a do or die yr…I think he loads up on talent to win now. Plus the new Hc would want to draft his own qb….
by VRFC8 on Jan 10, 2012 12:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Back-up QB is a huge question mark in my mind – we need someone, but that someone shouldn’t be too expensive, and then Kafka – I have no idea what to think of him or his abilities. I guess whatever Reid and gang do in the off season around getting a back-up quarterback will let us know though what their own thoughts on Kafka are.
I feel bad for the Cardinals and the Kolb issues going on there right now…
I like Kafka at #2.
I liked him at #2 this year too. VY was horrible and proved it.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 10, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I like kafka too!
Lets play him in about 4 games next year, let him build up some interest, and then BAAAMM! ship him off for a second round pick!! Yee yeaaahhh!
by green_pete_trucking on Jan 10, 2012 7:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not much in FA for safeties..
A lot of inconsistent players.. then you have Landry, Tyvon Branch and who else? DeCoud?
By the way
the guy in that pic looks like Miles Austin…do you really want him?
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Of the 3 mentioned
Yes.. best option. But I’m with immynimmy, there is a chance that Mark Barron will still be available in the 2nd.. maybe even at our turn (but would rather swap and move up a few picks to make sure, if he’s still there in 2nd)…
If they take a safety...
Barron has to be the top pick if he makes it to the 2nd…after that Winston Guy in the 4th or Harrison Smith in the 6th round… Eagles need to compliment to Allen, someone that can provide a thump and help in the run game. Not discounting Jarrett, hopefully he provides this w/ a full offseason.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jan 10, 2012 1:04 PM EST reply actions
Eagles need to compliment to Allen, someone that can provide a thump and help in the run game.
Kurt Coleman gives a lot of thumps.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Jan 10, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
c'mon seriously...
Colemn is very capable, and he’s a good hitter, but I’m talking about an upgrade in talent.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jan 10, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I think everbody wants Kuechly in rd 1.
But what is the best way to go with the 2nd rd picks? Backup QB is huge especially with Michael Vick as our QB. Can Kafka be the backup? Things will change before April 26th rolls around. We will know what is vital. DJAX most likely will get the franchise tag and hopefully we resign Mathis. If not WR and G will be needs.
by Almightypudster on Jan 10, 2012 1:10 PM EST reply actions
He may get the tag
But even if he does, I feel that situation needs to be resolved via a contract sooner rather than later, or it’s just going to creep up as a problem again.
I say we.....
..trade djax, asante, and our second round pick to St. Louis for their 1st round pick and we pick up blackmon!!!! Any takers????
by green_pete_trucking on Jan 10, 2012 7:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You're fucking nuts.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Robert Lester played well last night. He could an option in the 2nd-3rd round
by EaglesAPhiA on Jan 10, 2012 1:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Article
…..so basically what this article is saying is that we should look to free agency for a safety?
by eagles0133 on Jan 10, 2012 2:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i’m a huge N.D. fan and usually I pull for the Eagles to draft any golden domer if he’s available… however, I was never a huge Harrison Smith fan. He’s a gritty player but I don’t think he’d do very much at all at the pro level. He’s a solid tackler but I’ve seen him get beat quite a few times by guys who wouldn’t get a sniff of the NFL.
Why are we basing things off of what ESPN says? Todd McShay is a hack.
The Curse of Lombardi
Iggles Nest
"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."
Nate Allen, Kurt Coleman and Jarrett.
Use the 3 of them and let them grow.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I like how they say Iloka is a run stopping safety who is a depth option at linebacker when in reality, Iloka played corner for Boise State this year when they got banged up. That’s ESPN for you!
The Curse of Lombardi
Iggles Nest
"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."
I agree that the ESPN description is way off. I have been living in Boise and had season tickets for the past 6 years and have watched Iloka for the past 4….he started as a true freshman and kept his starting spot all 4 years. He is a good cover guy and has decent speed (which is why they moved him to corner after injuries), and has been Boise’s best open field tackler. He doesn’t miss tackles trying to knock guys out, that is crap…he always wraps up. He is fundamentally sound, reliable, reasonably fast, and a team guy. If he is availiable in the later rounds and the Eagles can grab him it would be a steal.
by Jack's Smirking Revenge on Jan 11, 2012 12:07 PM EST reply actions
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