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Quick comparison of Vick and Young

Of course, I hope Vick stays healthy, but I'm hearing quite a bit about how much the Eagles' success this year depends on him staying so. I really tend to doubt this will be the case, simply because Vince Young is quite a good player in his own right, as I'll illustrate below:

Last year, Vick played in 12 games, and had a 60% completion %, with a Yard Per Attempt (YPA) of 8.11. He was helped by a ridiculous and likely unrepeatably low INT % of only 6 INTs (1.6%). He contributed with his legs another 676 Yards (56 per game). In advanced metrics, his DVOA passing was ranked 11th, and rushing he was #1 for QBs, and #8 overall.

Last year, Young had a pretty good year too. Starting 8 games, he threw for a 59.6% completion %, and 8.04 YPA. He only threw 3 INTs for a similarly awesome (and unsustainable) INT % of 1.9%. He ran with much less success than Vick (what a shock!) for only 125 yards (16 per game). In advanced metrics, his DVOA passing was ranked 5th, which you will note is higher than Vick, and his running DVOA is below average at 23rd.

This is not an in-depth study, comparing the receivers Young had vs. the Eagles, and it's not intended to speculate what Young might do with Reid, Morty & Co to work with for any length of time. Just comparing the two QBs, it seems to me that though there is a drop off between #1 and #2, it's really not that large. Assuming that Vick gets hurt, the offense as a whole will likely not skip many beats between our probably great running attack and a passer who is similar, and almost as good, as our #1 guy. All in all, I want Vick to be the guy. But I feel quite comfortable should he go down in relying on Vince Young.

PS Apologies for the crappy formatting, I'm having trouble with this website for some reason...

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Here we go comparing a bunch of stats again

Watch the tape, Vick is much better than Young despite stats. This is like the Giants trying to say Manningham is as good as Jackson with comparable stats.

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Sep 8, 2011 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Please note I did not say Young is better

I know Vick is better, I got eyes. But Young is NOT a bad QB, he is in fact a very good one. His completion percentage for his career is way better than Vick’s was pre-Eagles. His passer rating, better. His Win/Loss record – better. The only way Vick clearly outshines him is in running, in which Vick is in a class by himself.

I hope Vick plays all 16 games this year, but I’ve seen Young play, too. He’s a very good QB, and I suspect that in this system, he would do quite well indeed.

"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant

by NJBammer on Sep 8, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would have no problem with vince young stepping in but to be honest i think id more comfortable with mike kafka as a game manager.

by greenismean on Sep 8, 2011 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Reading this made me angry, if only because of the 576 pt. font

"When life hands you lemons, make a profit." - Chet Cashley

"Float like a Butterfly, sting like a Bee; Make sure you got the ball in your hands, or else you won’t get a TD." - Joe Theismann

by Ralf E Chubbs on Sep 8, 2011 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I know

It’s not even NJB’s fault, but I’m just really fucking angry after looking at this post.

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36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green

by AnthroEagle on Sep 8, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Change

the font and will be easier to listen, I 100% agree that VY as our backup I am comfortable with god forbid something happen to Vick, But Vick is going to string a 16 game season this year, I feel it the attitude around camp and the way everyone is together on this, We have a great run in us this year

by DcEagles29 on Sep 8, 2011 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

The biggest worry I would have with young would be his lack of experience

in this offense. Now if I hear he is living with the play book and is really comfortable
with the offense then I have no problem with him if Vick gets hurt.

" I don't know if I prefer Astroturf to grass. I never smoked Astroturf." - Joe Namath

by stopyourcrying on Sep 8, 2011 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

The biggest difference between Young and Vick isn't what Young is missing.

It’s just something Vick has.

And that something can’t be expressed in stats.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 8, 2011 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

So damn large and bold… blind people could “see” it.

"What THE FUCK is a tomato pie?" - Ralf E Chubbs

Never call a Phillies, Eagles, Flyers or Sixers fans, a band-wagoner. It is disrespectful. We have suffered agony through the years. Philadelphians should be jovial for their teams' success.

by chillyphilly on Sep 9, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

MY eyes hurt

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"If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent." - #5
RIP JJ

by HawaiianGreen on Sep 9, 2011 2:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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