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Eagles Vs Rams: Five Questions With Turf Show Times

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As you might have heard, there's a real live football game this weekend that the Eagles are playing in. It's in St. Louis... against the Rams... So of course, we hooked up with our resident Rams blogger 3k from Turf Show Times to talk about this weekend's matchup. You can find my answers to his questions over there.

BGN: I look at the Eagles corners and the Rams WRs and am I being a total homer in thinking that this is one of the biggest mismatches either team will see all year? I usually try to find reasons why my eyes deceive me, but does Sam Bradford even bother throwing the ball in this game?

TST: I don't think it's that much of a homer statement (although you guys do get that vaunted Redskins attack twice this year...). The Rams had so much rebuilding to do after the franchise caved in at the end of former GM Jay Zygmunt's tenure that some positions were not going to receive the high-value draft picks or expensive free agents. Thus far, those positions have been WR and OLB. So yes, it's a pretty damn big mismatch. That being said, the Rams have tried to supply some fresh weapons for Sam this year. Mike Sims-Walker looks to be a valuable component and rookies Austin Pettis and Greg Salas will factor at some point this season; however, if their preseasons are any real indication, it's going to be a while. The best addition looks to be rookie TE Lance Kendricks. He's been as good as advertised as a second round selection thus far.

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What effect do you think Josh McDaniels will have on Bradford and the offense this year? Will he call passes that are designed to travel more than 4-5 yards in the air? I'm not sure Pat Shurmur knew that those types of throws were allowed.

Obviously, it would be impossible to tighten this offense any more than what we saw with Shurmur last year. And given his history, I would assume that McDaniels is going to stretch the field out with some consistency. We saw that in the preseason, including this playaction bomb against the Titans on the first play of the game. The real issue is the combined skill sets of who we have on the depth chart. The one real deep threat we had was Donnie Avery, and the staff opted to cut him from the 53-man. So between Danny Amendola, Mike Sims-Walker, Brandon Gibson and the perma-injured Danario Alexander, I don't know who is going to stretch the field out of talent. It's going to require systematic disguising, and that rests on Josh McDaniels' shoulders. We'll just have to see how it plays out. (And I doubt there's a Ram fan in existence who wouldn't rather have McD as OC than Shurmur)

Seriously, how on earth did Danny Amendola catch 85 passes and not even eclipse 700 yards? Actually just for the hell of it, I looked this up on pro-football-reference.com and he is literally the only WR in NFL history to have at least 85 catches and less than 700 yards. (I realize the answer to this is probably the same as the last question, but I was stunned by that stat.)

It's a combination of system and his limitations. He's quick as all hell, but has a limited top gear and is pretty bad at double moves and deeper routes. He's best used on screens and shorter routes like slants, curls and in/outs. Honestly, I hope he can match his production in this year's offense.

What are the expectations for the Rams this season? Would just making the playoffs be evidence of enough progress to make the fans happy? Would a year without the postseason, especially in the NFC West, feel like a failure?

You won't find much unanimity among Ram fans on this one. Yes, we all feel like the team is headed in the right direction, and yes, we all expect them to be "better". But where as last year's schedule was relatively soft, this year's is damn tough. At this point, making the playoffs alone would likely satisfy every fan of the Rams, but that's prior to week 1. Should they get through the first seven games with a winning record, expectations will rise. What makes this difficult to parse is the wonderful world of the West. Our division sucks, as every single NFL fan knows. It's not so much that the Rams should win the division, but that none of the other three teams should. For the Rams to not top the Niners, Seahawks and Cards this year would be a categorical failure.

I have a gentleman's bet with a friend regarding some NFC West QBs that you might want to weigh in on. Who throws more yards, TDs and INTs this year between Kevin Kolb and Sam Bradford? Personally, I went with Kolb for most yards, but I'm leaning towards Bradford for TDs and I'm really unsure about INTs.

 I'm with you on the yards and TDs predictions. Kolb has Larry Fitzgerald anchoring that pass attack and some deep threats to boot. And with Kendricks, the Rams should have a much more reliable red zone passing offense than we did in 2010. As for INTs, I'll take the homer route and predict Kolb will toss more picks than Bradford. Also, gambling is bad and stuff.

Given that your boys already already nabbed a BGN fave in Quintin Mikell, if you could steal one more player off the Eagles roster, who would it be?

Pfffftttt, DeSean Jackson. You guys owe us for passing on him and taking Avery instead in the 2008 Draft. Then again, six WRs went before he did. Unbelievable draft hit there for you guys. But yeah, it'd be Jackson in a second. With Bradford and McDaniels, that would just be a silly combo.

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I'll try to answer any questions yall have today

and I’ll have Jason’s answers to my questions over at TST at noon. So now we’re all best friends.

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by 3k on Sep 8, 2011 10:38 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Good answeres

I was thining the same thing in question one… Obviously anything can happen on paper but I don’t even think our 4th CB (hanson) would have any trouble covering amendola consistently. I fully expect Nnamdi to get his first blank of the season…

But then again, paper is paper

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by Joe_D on Sep 8, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll help out with any questions people have

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by Josh Wehrle on Sep 8, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kolb for INT's

I know people are going to be shocked that I think Kolb will throw a lot of interceptions, but I think he will EASILY throw more INT’s than Bradford. Matter of fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was in Eli territory, the 20+ club. I was huge on Bradford as a prospect and thought that no one would have even known Stafford’s name had he elected to come out a year early…his early success is no surprise to me and, wait for it, I would even take him as a better long term prospect than Matt Ryan.

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by Qwest on Sep 8, 2011 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

One of Kolb’s weaknesses that I remember from his time here (especially that Saints/Chiefs double-header in ‘09), is that almost from the snap, he is looking directly at the receiver he intends to connect with. I remember a flat out stupid interception he threw against the Saints that turned a close game into a hole. Of course, he got better… and I imagine he will continue to do so, but if this is one of his ’old habits,’ it will resurface frequently.

by Wikkin on Sep 8, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you’re referring to the 1st and 2nd start of his career there… That’s what young QB do.

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by JasonB on Sep 8, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then, by that standard...

…he hasn’t gotten much older. The age that you are referring to is experience…and hasn’t gotten a whole lot more of it. Like I’ve said, I don’t think he is a bad QB, I just doubt that he is a franchise QB. If he ends up middle of the pack, I will say he achieved as much as he should have.

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by Qwest on Sep 8, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

+ they will chuck it more often and try to force throws to fitz. Te Rams should stick to that horse in the backfield (SJ is on 4 of my 6 FF teams).

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by IggesRule13 on Sep 8, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only reason Bradford could surpass Kolb in INT’s is sheer volume passing. If they continue to air it out like last year, Bradford could have more INT’s.
Kolb could finish with more TD’s and yards, but that’s the result of having much better talent to work with. Bradford is far and away the superior QB.
Like you said, Bradford is exceptional. If we had him paired with our WR’s and Shady, my voice would all ready be shot from screaming dynasty.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
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by KByars on Sep 8, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is way too friendly

We Philly fans have a rep to protect here.

F-you, Dream team!

That oughta do it.

Jamie Dukes- First name is a girl’s, last name is a dog’s. That would make him Michael Vick’s BITCH.

by oldasquick on Sep 8, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

That oughta do it.

That oughta do what? Show us a block quote fail?!
Well, you have success.

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by EagleGreeninMD on Sep 8, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Geez, lighten up Francis.

Jamie Dukes- First name is a girl’s, last name is a dog’s. That would make him Michael Vick’s BITCH.

by oldasquick on Sep 8, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you calling me fat?

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by EagleGreeninMD on Sep 8, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes, you are very phat

Never call a Phillies, Eagles, Flyers or Sixers fans, a band-wagoner. It is disrespectful. We have suffered agony through the years. Philadelphians should be jovial for their teams' success.

by chillyphilly on Sep 8, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

womppp womppp

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Sep 8, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, everytime someone writes that I hear the sound in my head.

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by EagleGreeninMD on Sep 8, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jamie Dukes- First name is a girl’s, last name is a dog’s. That would make him Michael Vick’s BITCH.

by oldasquick on Sep 8, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Touch my stuff

I’ll kill ya!

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by stinkypants on Sep 8, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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by uhrsker on Sep 8, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just wondering, which team does TST see as losing the West this year (as in 4th place)? I am thinking a lot of people will say Seattle, but I personally think it’s San Fran.

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by TheRealMcCoy on Sep 8, 2011 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

soooo tough to project

With the other three teams having, let’s say, “issues” at QB, it’s hard to know who’s going to fall off the map. If I had to guess right now, I’d go for Arizona two years running. I think their O-line is raggedy, and the defensive holes are pretty blatant. But I could see any of the three other teams falling into those tailspins where the bottom comes out and the losses just start piling up in embarrassing fashion.

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by 3k on Sep 8, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say San Fran, just because during pre season, their offense was mad anaemic

in addition to that Frank Gore held out.

Defensively they’ve got so much talent, but it never comes together.

It’s hard to predict because each team has a lot of useable talent, the problem in the NFC West is seemingly the coaches’ inability to harness it.

If we’re looking just at coaches, you can’t look past San Fran as the worst, purely because they have a green HC.

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by Infemous on Sep 8, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

pass rush?

Given the precarious state of the Eagles’ O line, you think the Rams’ pass rush can cause Vick problems? Do you have ends/LBs/blitzing cornerbacks that are athletic enough to flush Vick out, and really pressure his throws?

by hugekiwi on Sep 8, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes, I do

Especially with the ends and secondary blitzes. The Rams were 7th in the NFL in sacks last year, and we added Robert Quinn through the first round of the draft. If there’s anything that a non-Rams fan should be buying on, it’s Spags’ ability to create pressure on QBs with diverse looks on the D-line.

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by 3k on Sep 8, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Especially...

…since getting pressure with his front four is his specialty.

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by Qwest on Sep 8, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

Chris long developed extremely well last year, his third year in the league, and Fred Robbins was a wonderful FA pickup for us. The pass rush won’t be a concern for the Rams in 2011.

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by 3k on Sep 8, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cheers for the response. The Eagles should win, but I remember Vick running for his life against the Lions last year. The Eagles were the better team across the board, but the pass rush disruption and a few mistakes in the second half turned the momentum over (dropped catches, sloppy run D), and we very nearly lost. I could see something similar happening in this game, but with Bradford leading a Matt-Ryan-against-the-Ravens type drive late on. You might be playing us at just the right time, so many new pieces, new combinations, and new coaches.

by hugekiwi on Sep 8, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

wowwww really Wingo and Stink both picking the Rams? Wtf is going on here. A mouthful of Amendola? Are you serious? What’s he going to get 50 yards?

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Sep 8, 2011 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Dilfer likes the Rams too? Are you serious? This is the team that went 7-9 in the worst division in football right? What is the fast track going to hurt the Eagles chances or something? What am I missing?

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Sep 8, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently, because we have one or two “weak points”, every single team in the NFL will be able to beat us perfectly without any problems whatsoever.

Also, many reporters want to be “the person who called the upset”, so that may be another (less retarded, more narcissistic) reason. At this point, though, you could argue that the upset is now with Philly. lol

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by TheRealMcCoy on Sep 8, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got a good chuckle from the first part

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by CarolinaGreen on Sep 8, 2011 11:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This is my exact sentiment

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by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think people are focusing too much on the weak O Line and putting too much stock into their pick as STL as sleeper pick. Plus, some people just want to go off the board and pick against the Eagles who are the favorite.

by JoshuaR on Sep 8, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

The O-Line was a bigger weak point last year. And even if the LB’s weren’t considered a weak point, they certainly should have been. This year’s OLine and LBs are both stronger corps than last year. How come nobody is mentioning that?

by gbcherry on Sep 8, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN Scout Inc

Also picked the Rams to win 24 to 17

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 8, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet you guys are excited. ESPN hath spoken and our poor Eagles have no chance :(.

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by JasonB on Sep 8, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

YEA AND

that will be on 10 catches

by DcEagles29 on Sep 8, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO The start of our year is going to be rougher than most people seem to expect. It’s going to take some time for us to put it all together. The O-line still needs to come together. The middle of our D still needs to solidify.
The bright side of all that is that we should be peaking when it counts the most.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
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by KByars on Sep 8, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

DeSean is a good answer

Would Nnamdi, Asante or Trent Cole have been a better one?

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Sep 8, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s all about need. I think they have a need at CB, their defensive line gets sacks, they definitely need a WR though.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Sep 8, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

Our top two CBs were pretty damn good last year – Ron Bartell and Bradley Fletcher. A bigger issue was OLB play (evidenced by the fact we went after three OLB free agents) and safety consistency (which led us to let Atogwe go and pick up Mikell).

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by 3k on Sep 8, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd personally take LeSean McCoy over Desean

purely because while Desean is one of those rare talents in the NFL, I feel that his inconsistent hands would be an annoyance, and don’t fit with the prototype of WRs McD favours.

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by Infemous on Sep 8, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

Imagine on 3rd down Shady and Sjax out of the backfield on mirrored wheel routes?

That’d be nasty.

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by Infemous on Sep 8, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually Jackson would appear to fit exactly the prototype of WRs that McDaniel’s favors.

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by JasonB on Sep 8, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That can get deep. If you watched him in DEN or NE, you know that’s what he wants.

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by JasonB on Sep 8, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'll also know that you don't need to be a 4.2 40 yard dash guy to get deep

and he often schemes the deep routes more than just calling a streak all day.

You would also know that most of offense is concentrated on short throws that open the deep throw.

Dude, jam yourself.

Saying I’d rather have McCoy over Desean is not an insult.

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by Infemous on Sep 8, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saying I’d rather have McCoy over Desean is not an insult

It isnt …

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by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope.

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by JasonB on Sep 8, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

sally sensitive over here

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Sep 8, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff

How about that DLine?

I’m apart of that group that thinks Defenses win Championships (Greatest Show OT hurts my case haha)

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Sep 8, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cowherd

Just said that Reid is on the 9th hottest hot seat in the world of sports? Is he kidding me? Reid isnt going anywhere until he quits….. or unless they miss thew playoffs for the next 5 years…..theres absolutely no way Lurie is going to let go the most important person to his organisation unless there is complete meltdown over the next 5 years.

FLY #7 FLY !!!

by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

He said it’s a joke and he shouldn’t be on the hot seat. He just thinks he is.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Sep 8, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Eagles win… the media will be kissing their asses. “Oh yeah, Michael Vick’s redemption”… " The Eagles did a good job this year"… “Andy Reid is a good coach”…

Reason why people aren’t picking us because the Patriots, Packers, Saints and Steelers are having success. People will be your friend if you have success… once you fall, no one wants nothing to do with you i.e. Michael Vick.

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by chillyphilly on Sep 8, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh

I’m a Rams fan. You guys aren’t exactly going to get sympathy from me or any other Rams fan for a lack of media respect. You’ve won at least seven games every year since 1987, except for four seasons. We’ve been worse than 7-9 thirteen times. Save for the GSOT days, our last two decades have been pretty damn horrible.

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by 3k on Sep 8, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

although...

I’d gladly take a few more sub-7 win seasons if it meant winning a SB during that same time ;)

Hit Squad is in the house! 60 minutes, balls out; let's open up the whole can of kick ass and kill 'em all! Let the paramedics sort 'em out!!

by BMitch on Sep 8, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't work that way

The more times a team gets to the playoffs, the higher the percentage of a Super Bowl victory.

We’re just super, super unlucky. :-(

by cwel87 on Sep 8, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

NFL coaches

1 genius and 31 dopes every year.
Consistency must count for something.

by gbcherry on Sep 8, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet!!

This game is playing of Fox in the Seattle area…..woohoo…. no need for illegal internet feed this week

FLY #7 FLY !!!

by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

Hope you can make it too the Game on Dec 1st… We need as many Eagles in the crowd as possible.

by EagleEyes on Sep 8, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya dude I got front Row A seats behind the Eagles bench :-)

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by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

My wife and I will be there! What section are you in BWest? Im in 112 I think like row H or something.

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I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7

by TricksterG on Sep 8, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and

I have sunday ticket so I dont ever miss a game. To many Seagulls games for my liking.

A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week-Patton

I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7

by TricksterG on Sep 8, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool man, I think its 110…im bringing the wife as well….. It should be a great time….I bet you more than 1/3 of that stadium will be full of Eagles…moreso than in 2008….

Cant wait!

FLY #7 FLY !!!

by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

its going to be fantastic. You doing the whole tailgate thing at Red Robin? What about you EagleEyes, where you sitting?

A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week-Patton

I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7

by TricksterG on Sep 8, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think so Ill be doing the tailgating, it all depends how early I can get into town….but…we’ll see …it would def be fun…

FLY #7 FLY !!!

by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

umm not sure the exact section have to re-look at the ticket

but its like 115 or something.. Good seats (behind the Eagles sideline of course) and i will be there with my Vick Jersey.

by EagleEyes on Sep 8, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still havent bought a new jersey…

still have 3 Westys, 2 #5 and 1 Bdawk (which is about the only respectable one that I can still wear….Westys was fine last year but they keep giving his number to someone else…) Oh yah and I still had a Kolb one thats in its original plastic wrapper…I never even got a chance to open it…. Dont want to be doing th same shit every year with the FO’s trigger happy finger…

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by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

@ illegal internet feed this week

by Two Nickels on Sep 8, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what I was thinking

Are some of you not old enough to just go to a local sports bar?

Hit Squad is in the house! 60 minutes, balls out; let's open up the whole can of kick ass and kill 'em all! Let the paramedics sort 'em out!!

by BMitch on Sep 8, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ehm, not every one of us are “local” dude

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by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not local either

When I say local I mean local to YOU. I live in DC, so I’m fed a steady dose of Deadskins games and have to go to Glory Days or Buffalo Wild Wings on a regular basis to catch our games.

Hit Squad is in the house! 60 minutes, balls out; let's open up the whole can of kick ass and kill 'em all! Let the paramedics sort 'em out!!

by BMitch on Sep 8, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you tavelled much in your life? Within and ouside the country? If you have, you wouldnt be making this comment ….

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by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

-*travelled

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by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

lighten up

Yes. And never had trouble finding a place to watch a game either. Just about any half-decent establishment carries Sunday Ticket these days. Unless by chance you’re traveling to the middle of the jungle or something? :-)

You sound offended, when there’s no need to be; no harm was meant my comment.. I just couldn’t imagine watching a shitty live stream over my laptop for the first game of the season, and would do everything in my power to be in front of a big screen somewhere.

Hit Squad is in the house! 60 minutes, balls out; let's open up the whole can of kick ass and kill 'em all! Let the paramedics sort 'em out!!

by BMitch on Sep 8, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

HA

  I was in the Army. You know what sports bars outside of an Army base show? And on the offchance they have a football game, it’s just the games broadcast over Fox. Yes, living in the northeast or in urban areas, you often have the opportunity to catch games.
  But there are plenty of places that don’t have “half-decent establishments” for a 100-mile radius.

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by 3k on Sep 8, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude I wouldnt of said it if it was an issue for me. Maybe you should expand your mind a little. There are other places in the world than the almighty United States of America….

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by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Well fuck…

Mind = Blown

Byahhh!

by begforme4484 on Sep 8, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its funny….

He was ignorant in thinking that there wasnt….and you’re ignorant in thinking that every body does….

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by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did I read something wrong?

Why are u trippin BWF? He was just saying you could go to a sportsbar to get a cleaner picture of the game…

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by FlyEagles15 on Sep 8, 2011 4:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why would I even bring it up if that were an option for me?

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by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the whole thread just started off wrong and snowballed.

This blog has a wide age-range so not everyone can hit up a bar to watch the game. In addition, we have a lot of fans overseas checking in so for them going to a local bar to watch a game isn’t an option.

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by soman319 on Sep 8, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is basically my point. He may not of intended to call me an underage internet idiot (for not knowning that evey bar in America has an Eagles game), but he surely implied it…. My point to him was not an attack, it was merely an opportunity to have him think before he speaks…and that other possibilites exist… A lot of people in this world are very close minded and live in their bubble (thats not to say that this particular gentlemen is like this), but every opportunity that I can have to enlighten someone, I do it…

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by BWestFactor on Sep 8, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol as I’ve said, the passive aggression is palpable. But no worries.

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by soman319 on Sep 8, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

We all know the saying… when you assume someone “implies” something, you automatically make an ass out of yourself. Congratulations bud, nice work.

Do me a favor and show me exactly where I called you an idiot.. Oh right, you can’t. It was only a question of asking if some people were simply underaged here, or if you had considered a sports bar to watch the game first before going for an internet feed (because believe it or not, many people don’t realize a bar is a viable option when a game isn’t on the local broadcast).

BTW, here’s the best part… in your VERY FIRST POST on the matter, you mentioned how the game would be on in the SEATTLE AREA. So through all of your crying, you’re still going to tell me that in a major metro city area like Seattle, there’s not a single place to watch sporting events? And further more, WTF does the rest of the world have to do with anything with what I brought up when again, you are the one who mentioned SEATTLE.

LOL, I love the internet sometimes.

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by BMitch on Sep 9, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

watching the captions go across the screen watching the game with no audio sucks at the sports bars i would rather settle for a shitty internet stream than to have to read the game.

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by nocostyle on Sep 8, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you need to lighten up

It’s pretty clear from reading this thread that nobody has meant any offense to you in any way.

by AZ Eagle on Sep 8, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i usually hit up

buffalo wild wings when i cant catch the game on TV. its fun to do a few weeks every season.

by Stuk on Sep 8, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The one name I want you guys to remember this week... Justin King

He is the nickle CB for the Rams. You will see his name on his jersey a lot this week. When he is running down the field after he blew coverage. He is the weakest spot on the Rams defense.

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 8, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice way to say

“I’m back… bitches”

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by chillyphilly on Sep 8, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

is the kind of inside scouting report that makes the game a little more interesting to watch for me. As if this game needed any help being interesting.

by AZ Eagle on Sep 8, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Few more

How do you feel about losing Atogwe?

What is your view of your CB’s and defense against multiple-WR sets?

How good of a job do you do defending against the screen game?

How well does Sam Bradford do against blitzes?

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by Rabbit T on Sep 8, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Mikell fits Spags defense better than Atogwe

Our #1 and #2 CB is pretty solid. Nickle CB is our weakest spot. The linebackers are all very good at covering passes.

We were terrible against play action passes last year

Samford does pretty well against the blitz. The line is even better this year. He just needs to step up more instead of scrambling. But he also throws pretty well on the run.

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 8, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mikell is an upgrade over Atogwe

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by JasonB on Sep 8, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

answers

Initially, worried. But filling that hole with Atogwe erases any concern. He’s a great team player and has a very useful skill set, so it sucks to see a good steward leave the team. But it’s a business, and Rams fans said their goodbyes months ago.

On our CBs, we took a big hit early on when we lost Jerome Murphy for the entire year in the preseason. He was expected to fill the third spot behind Bartell and Fletcher, who are both above average physical corners. The problem we’ve had with multiple WR sets is that SS Craig Dahl is a liability in coverage, and our OLBs have been horrendous in the pass game.

I’d put us middle of the road on screens. Our defensive line and safeties assess the play pretty well, and can make the adjustments quickly, but (again) our OLBs alongside James Laurinaitis have been deficient. Hopefully, adding Ben Leber and Brady Poppinga will boost the defense in multiple areas, including defending the screen.

As for the blitz, Shurmur’s system was so short, we often didn’t face heavy blitzes. Defenses knew Sam was only going to take a 3-step or quick 5-step drop and get rid of the ball before they could get to him. He is very comfortable rolling outside the pocket as pressure comes in and firing on the run, as Flim said. I think the concern this year is that as he and McDaniels develop a stronger rapport and Sam is asked to take those 7-step drops, how will he adjust? It’s a bit of an unknown at this level because he just wasn’t asked to do it much in 2010.

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by 3k on Sep 8, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said goodbye to OJ

I felt we done him wrong, business or not, but I’m glad we got such a good player in Mikell.

About Sam and blitzes… this is something to watch. He is now in charge of calling protections, and looked uncomfortable vs the Titans. He was good at diagnosing LB blitzes but secondary players often came through untouched.

He looked better the next week, but didn’t face as exotic a pass rush.

I think once Sam is more comfortable he’ll be much better, but this is definitely a baptism of fire.

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by Infemous on Sep 8, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok heres a question...

How are your D lineman. Is the strength of the Rams pass rush come from their ends ,blitzing or just the front four ? And if it is just the front four is it more the outside guys(ala Indy) or more from an inside push ?

by Gdog2009 on Sep 8, 2011 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

The former two

  Chris Long is an absolute beast. He gets off the line instantly, he’s powerful, he uses his hands very well, and he plays all four quarters. His development last year was ridiculous. Teams started giving him more focus in their gameplans by week 3, and this gave veteran DE James Hall more opportunities to work simple one-on-one rush situations throughout the season. Don’t read into Hall’s double-digit sack total from last year; it’s largely an effect of Long’s abilities and the required attention to keeping him out.

  And yes, Spags’ blitz schemes are very useful. He’ll fire the Mike often and use his safeties and cornerbacks intermittently as well. His defensive instincts and the timing of the blitz calls are appropriately times much more often than not.

  On the front four, I’ve been an outspoken critic. Many Rams fans have been more than happy with the line; I haven’t been. That’s why I was incredibly pleased to see the Rams land a premium DE in the first round and to sign a useful DT in Justin Bannan (though I’d like to see us draft a DT relatively early in April).

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by 3k on Sep 8, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

well written post

But I have to admit I had a chuckle. I can’t imagine any Eagle fans even thinking about april yet.

I feel bad for your franchise, but you are my favorite in the west. I like spags, hope he continues to do well.

I would like to thank my hands for being so great, for allowing me to type this post.

by corn on the kolb on Sep 8, 2011 6:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

DE James Hall had a career year last year

Mostly because Chris Long was getting double teamed a lot. He led the league in QB rushes. DT Fred Robbins though was pretty good with 6 sacks last season.

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 8, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of the these 3...

which one will have a better game: McCoy, Celek, or Brown?

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by Aces are Wild on Sep 8, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you asking me?

Or is this for the other BGN’ers? I don’t really have a strong knowledge of yalls RB rotation and how you expect to share carries.

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by 3k on Sep 8, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was for you

as I myself am not to familiar with the Rams defensive scheme. Perhaps it should of been which of those 3 would be able to exploit any potential mismatch in the secondary, rather than the way it was stated.

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by Aces are Wild on Sep 8, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

McCoy out of the backfield

we don’t have athletic LBs and they, while smart, tough and instinctive, never seem to be able to simply catch a RB out the backfield or on tosses due to limited athleticism.

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by Infemous on Sep 8, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Thanks

It will be interesting to see how it plays out. Good luck to the Rams.

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by Aces are Wild on Sep 8, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

likewise

good luck and I hope it meets its billing!

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by Infemous on Sep 8, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the runningbacks for both teams are going to make this game.

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by KeepSwinging on Sep 8, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely.,

too much is being made of the WRs vs CBs thing.

This game is about running the ball, playaction and screens.

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by Infemous on Sep 8, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s about all those things. Both teams will have to throw and run to win.

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by JasonB on Sep 8, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

well duh!

congrats!

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by Infemous on Sep 8, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was my point… Glad you got it.

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by JasonB on Sep 8, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, the passive aggression is palpable.

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by soman319 on Sep 8, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Pat Shumur was more conservative than Fox News, how the hell did he nab the Browns’ head coaching job?

How much mileage does Steven Jackson still have?

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by Imp on Sep 8, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I have no clue how Shumur got the job for the Browns

Most Rams fans were pretty happy he was leaving though.

Not sure about Jackson. Adding a new guard in Harvey Dahl should help him out. Also, adding his backup in Caddilac should help lighten the load for him.

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 8, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sjax has another 2 years of feature back status

but ultimately, we’d want to groom another RB like Trent Richardson under him.

I think the improved O Line (well addition of Dahl) and more reliable backups as well as a more open offense will help reduce wear and tear.

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by Infemous on Sep 8, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

although

you can never question SJax’s ability to look after his body. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a 1000 yard season as a backup in 4 years time…

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by Infemous on Sep 8, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holmgren-Reid-Heckert combo

Holmgren is stocking that team with ex Andy Reid guys. He got Heckert and now Shurmur, who was the Eagles QB coach.

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by JasonB on Sep 8, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a question

I have seen some of Bradford and I was wondering if you think he will test our corners or if he will be content throwing the dink and dunks?

by Two Nickels on Sep 8, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

he'll take what your D give him

if you disrespect the WRs and they get open, he’ll let it rip. He’s not Jimmy Clausen.

If you lock up the WRs and leave SJax and Kendricks in the flats he’ll dump it off until the deep throw is available.

What’ll be interesting to see is the use of playaction to open up deep throws and if McD can schematically open up the pass game, such as bunching multiple WRs and using route combinations and piques to open up deep throws.

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by Infemous on Sep 8, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Turf Show Times” makes me think of “Surfside Six.” Not relevant to anything.

by groot on Sep 8, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

must...refuse...to feed...

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by 3k on Sep 8, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha I’m just kidding man. I liked your responses. Impressively unbiased.

by groot on Sep 8, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I try

You guys are pretty aggressive over here. It’s good though. It feels like a Philly blog. Or since I’m here, should that say, “It pheels like a Philly blog. Phor real.”

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by 3k on Sep 8, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

thats about as annoying as going somewhere and seeing “Philly Cheesesteak” on the menu. but its all good.

by Philly O's on Sep 8, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know it was going to be one or the other

Either you were going to love it or hate it. Glad it’s hated. Those goofy misspellings are stoopid…

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by 3k on Sep 8, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The “PH” thing is only for douchey Phillies fans, the majority of whom didn’t exist more than 4 to 5 years ago. I almost want the Phillies to lose for a few seasons so they go away.

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by packimop on Sep 8, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

"The Media"

The media can suck it. They are a joke. Latest story regarding the eagles. Apparently NFL.com is questioning that the eagles will loose to the rams. They feel that the eagles are in it to loose. Lets be realistic. Andy reid. Mike Vick. Desean Jackson. Lesean Mccoy. Jeremy Maclin. Jason Avant. Riley Cooper. Ronnie Brown. Brent Celek. Clay Harbor. Possibly Steve Smith. That right there is a dynamic offense. We will demolish there defense. No questions asked. Who are they going to blitz with all game. Im hearing alot of talks about Chris Long. Chris WHO? Oh, yes the #2 pick in the 2008. Wow 17 sacks in his carreer sounds impressive, yet hes going against the mediocore left tackles. Am i forgetting Joe Thomas. Hes overrated. Jason Peters will shut down there only play maker on defense. They will blitz the right side of the line. Specifically Kelce and Devan. One name. Two Words. Howard Mud. Hes great. He knows what hes doing. Every one is worrying about if what Howard Mud is doing the right thing taking out Watkins. Of course he is. Watkins needs time to groom. Look at his tape. Missing Assignments. But great athletic ability and technique. He will be a star. Just not yet. Our Defense on sunday will shut down the rams recievers. I exect alot of running from St. Louis. But its not a big deal. Take out Cullen Jenkins. Stuff in Antonio Dixon. BAM. You have two run stoppers who will dominate the run. Steven Jackson breaks through the line? Our linebackers are young. But they are not weak. They have potential. I see big things for the Philadelphia Eagles this year. In Howie, Andy, Joe, and Jeff I trust.

by Don Kedic on Sep 9, 2011 1:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Rams Fan Here

But this is the type of post that drives us Rams Fans Wild. True enough you guys are talented but to consider Chris Long our ONLY defensive playmaker is offensive to not only our team but the fans. Its similar to saying that Jackson is YOUR only Playmaker. We respect Maclin & Co. So why not the same Mutual Respect. I’m not predicting a winner as I think this will be an EPIC game but I know that it will NOT be a gimme for you guys!

by MyGirlMakesMeRamwiches on Sep 9, 2011 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

well in reality, can you please tell me your defensive play makers? I look at your roster,
I don’t see much. Quintin Mikell? Decent. Phillys defense? Cole, Babin, Asoughma, Samuel, Cromartie, Jenkins. That’s legit.

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