What about this little change to the wide-9 and Nnamdi's role
by nowaxxy22 on Sep 28, 2011 11:41 AM EDT
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Okay so we have two major major problems on defense... the LB corps and the safeties
Any thoughts on this (1)
RB
FB
QB
X X X X X X TE X
AS JB CJ AD TC DRC
AJ JC MF
JP NA
Here we have Asante Samuel and DRC playing their respective sides of the field. This allows us to put Nnamdi at safety to cover the TEs, yes I know best CB on the team and arguably in the league, but he did play safety in college where he gained national recognition. So lets say he locks up the TE, now our other problem is against the run... if in a basic 2 WR set this allows us to bring Page up into the box (if Juan will ever allow 8 in the box). We also have Antonio Dixon in there to add some more beef to the line. I placed Akeem Jordan in at the WIL because if anyone noticed he got his one play after Fokou got hurt, came in and made the tackle for a two yard gain on Bradshaw, then was taken off again. Jordan isn't anything special... I know... but he is more reliable than Clay Matthews at the WIL and do we really know much about Brian Rolle... honestly I much rather have Omar Gaither, Bradley, Chaney but that is not going to happen...
If they come out with 3 WR look and we match it with (2)
RB
QB
X X X X X X X TE X
AS JH JB CJ MP TC DRC
JC MF
JP NA
Here we have Hanson in the slot where he is dependable and very comfortable... Fokou (or Brian Rolle) in to cover the TE but with help over the top from Nnamdi who gets shaded to the side of the TE. Now in this formation you have one WR on the strong side which would be good because say the TE goes on a short out you now have Nnamdi with the ability to help DRC over the top or if he the TE makes a middle cross or say a post you have a a LB to cover and safety help from Page over the top. On the far side of the field is where we may have a problem with Asante jumping a route and getting beat on a double move but Asante plays off so I am willing to live with that risk.
If the play is called that the TE stays in to block and the RB goes out now you have the perfect set up for this defense because you either have DRC and Nnamdi doubling on the strong side WR with the LB picking up the RB but still having help from Page or you now have DRC stay in on the flat for the RB and Nnamdi pick up the WR... if they run a quick slant DRC rides him for a bit and lets him go thus maintaining the ability to play the RB... now the problem is on the other side of the field again... Asante made a great play to up end Jacobs one on one but we know that this is not a normal occurance from my main man... if they run it weakside or have the RB in the flat then Chaney needs to read that quickly...
If the TE goes in motion to the otherside you motion Nnamdi to the other side and Page flips to his spot... Now you have Asante Samuel, Hanson in the slot, and Nnamdi Asomugha on one side of the field... ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO THROW TO THAT SIDE... that leaves DRC on an island so as the TE motions over you have DRC give a cushion and bring page up a couple of yards to support weakside rush, RB flat or help DRC on the slant now that he has given a cushion...
Base in Running situations (3)
RB
FB
QB
X X X X X X TE X
DRC JB CJ AD MP TC NA
AJ JC MF
JP/NA
Ok so here we have 5 down lineman look and still maintain 3 LBs giving us 8 in the box...we now move NA up to CB and DRC to Asante's side in known running situations or in two TE packages... if say they flex out the TE or audible to a RB in the slot you now have them where you want them because you still get the Wide-9 rush but you can now stuff the middle with 3 interior DL or even push say Mike Patterson to take on the LT or Jenkens on the other side (only 1 though or you have flood gates) and you open up the rush from either end
Disclaimer... I know it is not this easy and I am not a coach but out of these I still believe you can bring up Page to play 7 (3 WR set) and 8 (2 WR) men in the box to support against the run.
What do you think?
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We didn’t sign Nnamdi to play safety. He’s a shutdown corner, that’s where he should be playing. But I appreciate the amount of time you put into this, and its an interesting thought.
Formerly DeSean10
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I should have know we were going to lose. We will always be the second class citizens behind the better and historically superior New York Giants. We have no chance of a Superbowl and never will.
Maybe things would have been different if we had Eli Manning. He’s an actual Superbowl winner.
and so far he shut down Roddy but got Victored
but i agree with you on signed him to be the shut down corner… but also remember we really didn’t sign a safety to play safety… ok Page… really?
I think what needs to change is Nnamdi playing Zone.
Let’s match him up, let him play man whether we make him cover 1 side or 1 man let’s just do it because he erases guys from the game.
Allow Asante to match up with guys as he has been for years, maybe let Page/Allen cover over the top on him to allow Asante to take shots.
Then get Jarrett into the game somehow, if he’s the best hitting safety in his class then I want to see it because we need that kinda presence
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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THIS!
Nnamdi is a man-cover CB. Let him do what he’s been doing.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Yep.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Pretty much..
Do you think they’ll make Nnamdi go man against the 49ers?
by EaglesForever20 on Sep 28, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that they'll likely match him up man-to-man with Davis.
And I do think we’ll start playing a lot more man from here on out. It takes stress off the Safety’s so they can come around.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Exactly
Using Nnamdi in zone is like Celek going deep while Desean is doing a 5 yard curl. They must fix this and they must play to every players strength, just like we are doing with Babin and Cole now. They don’t have to play any zone as they did in the last system and they are being much more productive because they are doing what they are good at.
Total agree on Samuel.
As you say, get Jarret in on the field. He is a very good hitter and i’m confident that he can play great if they just give him a shot at it.
And in the Red Zone on offense, why don’t put in JamJax, Watkins and King Dunlap? They will surely get a much better push then Mathis, DeVan och Kelce. It would have help against Giants.
I agree.
Although no I don’t think we bring out Mathis or Kelce… But I do think it’s time to get Watkins some playing time at RG because his ceiling far surpasses the average consistency DeVan’s brought to the table.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
THIS IS NOT MADDEN PEOPLE!!!
Vince been here less than a month and already done ****ed up
smh (dream team)
is it Madden to think of putting Nnamdi back in the position he became a first round pick from...
its not like the cries for Sheldon to be the new FS because Nnamdi has played there and excelled before… not in all packages just some
I think Nnamdi should play more press man coverage. That’ll be fan-fuckin-tastic.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Mikesta on Sep 28, 2011 4:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Exactly.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Awesomeguy
in zone is like Cole dropping in coverage
I think there is a pretty simple thing that can be done to shore up the run game
On obvious running downs, do not line up the DE’s in the wide 9. Instead line up with the DE’s over the OT’s. Cole is excellent against the run and Cullen Jenkins could bump out to DE bulking us up against the run. Then on obvious passing downs bring out the wide 9 with Babin, Cole etc.
HI
Believe it or not this is not a video game. NA is not a hitter he is a cornerback. Putting him at Safety negates the two things he does well, move fast and challenge the receiver at the link.
Putting him back here is a fast way to get him injured for no apparent reason. Put him up front on their best guy and tell him to take him out. It is that simple. Then tell Asante to grow a pair and play on the opposite side of the field once in a while, and if he doesn’t want to put DRC there and bench/trade Asante.
That is a huge part of the problem no one is talking about. Asante always plays one side of the field cause he likes it, which is why they zone up all the time. Either make him play man or move him out…
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