Eagles Vs Jets: Which Questions Were Answered?
Prior to last night's game we listed four things to watch for. Well, we've watched it and here's what we saw.
How does Danny Watkins look?
Some good and bad, but overall you would have to say it was a solid effort. He had a couple rough snaps early on including one where Aaron Maybin got by he and Mike McGlynn for a hurry. It wasn't clear whose man he was, but neither guy stopped him. Otherwise, he really looked a lot more solid than last week and actually was a big plus in the run game on a number of of those impressive Dion Lewis runs. Watkins' says any extra playing time is good as he and all the other rookies continue to play catchup.
"Like I said, the more experience for me, the better. We didn’t have the rookie OTAs or anything like that, so I’m just trying to make up for lost time."
How were the rookie kickers?
Not good from Alex Henery, who was finally asked to kick a 40+ yarder and missed it. However, he did rebound and hit a 49 yarder later in the game. His talent and leg have never really been in question, for him as with all young kickers it's really all about consistency. Chas Henry seems to have settled right in from day one and looks like he'll do a fine job this year.
Really good. Moved the team really well and led two TD drives. Would have scored a third on his own if he didn't pull his hammy on that play he got hurt.
Does anyone emerge in the return game?
Dion Lewis had a 40 yard kick return to start the game and given how well he played otherwise, that could mean a spot for him on the active gameday roster. Sinorice Moss seems to have eclipsed Chad Hall as a punt returner, so that could be a factor if the Eagles decide to keep another WR and it's one of those two... Thing is, I don't think punt returning is going to get anyone on this team. DeSean Jackson will still be considered the "primary" punt return man, so really they just need someone to take the kicks DeSean doesn't. These will not be high leverage returns and likely ones that are headed down near the end zone. You really don't need a specialist for that.
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Watkins’ says any extra playing time is good as he and all the other rookies continue to play catchup.
That’s why I was kinda surprised Kelce didn’t play at all
As for PRs, I was surprised they haven’t tried Lewis back there for when they don’t want DeSean back there but maybe they’ll use Maclin?
Agreed. VERY suprised Kelce didn’t play. In fact, I was a bit disappointed.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
From what I've seen of hom on twitter
Kelce seems like kind of a douche…but like I said, thats only from Twitter.
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
I agree with Kelce
But Todd get’s just as much from practice as he would against Jets 2nd and 3rd stringers
Yeah
but O-linemen need consistency and to be able to communicate. They need the reps for cohesion more then anything. Plus when you play against your own all summer you learn their moves and know what they bring. Going against another team gives you an opportunity to see things you may not have seen in practice (i.e., 4-3 vs 3-4). So, in other words, I am just as surprised to see Todd not play out there at RT.
by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Sep 2, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That whole line should have played
They need reps as a unit. But oh well, twas preseason. Luckily their opening game is against the Rams, not the Falcons.
String RB Group.
Dion Lewis is extremely shifty n has very good vision. I think he’d do well as our Primary PR/KR. He is the gadget player Andy wishes Hall was.
by ProtoTyler on Sep 2, 2011 10:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think we may have the best stable of RBs in the Andy Reid era. Call me crazy, but I think Shady+Brown+Lewis>Westbrook+Duce+Buckhalter.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
Maybe
Westbrook was better than Shady…. Duce was OK, he was a blue collar Eagles player. Ronnie Brown is probably better.. and it remains to be seen what Lewis can do against 1st teamers
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
The cool thing about the Westbrook, Duce, and Buckhalter stable is that they all of their different style of running.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
Everything I've seen from Lewis last night
makes him look stellar.
I know he was playing against the 2s and 3s but Dion Lewis was looking pretty legit in the passing game.
"On the flip side, though, Bleeding Green Nation cites a PFF study that says Jackson dropped the highest percentage of catchable passes (19.67 percent) of any receiver in the league last year. I think he also dropped that punt at the end of the last Giants game. But then he picked it back up."
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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Sep 2, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
dion lewis is so much fun to watch
He just disappears in the pile and pops out the otherside. Also man is surprisingly strong…mighty mouse stuff.
by VRFC8 on Sep 2, 2011 10:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hes faster than i thought too
thats why i hate preseason games!! especially the last one. He looked good vs NY’s scrubs. But i think hes a lock for KR
"I brought two kegs,one of beer,one of gunpowder" -WARCLOUD
by Dunta Is A PUNK on Sep 2, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
We leanred nothing
since they didnt have the starters out there, which imho they should have, sans peters. When your current 1s have no game experience toegether and week 4 preseason is over, that is not good…and the fact there are 2 rookies there, yea, big mistake not to have Keche & Todd out there too.
Watkins isnt ready to be the starter I don’t think.
Wells played pretty Wells @ RT. You could keep him there and slide Todd inside RG for a few weeks until Watkins is up to speed .
Lewis is a beast.
Chall Hall might be gone but doubt it.
Todd is the RT
Doesn’t make a lot of sense to slide him into guard, then ask him to re-adjust to tackle again in Week 4 or whenever. It’s not like going from flanker to split end, it’s a big switch
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-- Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
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The OL should have played.
The five starters won’t take a live snap together until St. Louis. I know Reid hates playing starters in the 4th preseason game, but these guys need reps, both individually and as a unit. I’d have played the LBs too. Kelce, Watkins and Matthews probably should have played an entire half.
Dion Lewis
yea he looked great against 2nd and 3rd stringers, but he is also playing with OUR 2nd and 3rd stringers. any time he was able to get to the LOS without a guy in his face, he made a pretty nice gain.
playing well against backups is what good players are supposed to do. i’m not saying he’s better than shady or brown at this point, but he is certainly making the most of his opportunities. compare him to cooper and/or havili. each of them got a few touches with the same group of guys on both sides and looked pretty unremarkable.
i, for one, am VERY impressed by what Dion Lewis brought to the game. i never imagined the little guy would be out there breaking tackles! i hope he earned a spot on the team. he will be a great asset to the team in a few years or traded for some nice picks.
by RogerPodacter on Sep 2, 2011 11:10 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I only watched Watkins
and came to the same conclusions. He has talent and is strong (admittedly against backups) and when he knew what to do, he did fine. It was when he made the wrong choice to looked uncertain that he got into trouble, and I assume that can only come through more and more reps.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
Of course, this is true with every offensive lineman.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by alcatraz0109 on Sep 2, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Back up are in pretty good shape too bro
they just tend to be the odd man out mostly
"I brought two kegs,one of beer,one of gunpowder" -WARCLOUD
by Dunta Is A PUNK on Sep 2, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think last night created more questions
Do we keep 2 tight ends or 3? Do we keep Chad hall as only a wr? Diion Lewis seems to have taken the kr job. And our line , as usual, created more questions.
by Saidrick on Sep 2, 2011 11:21 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah, Donald Lee played very well last night as well.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
Off the subject but....
1st and 10the this morning skip gayness has soooo much hate for the Eagles its ridiculous… They were talking about the broncos and he just had to throw Vick under the bus AGAIN…He said tebow is way more accurate than Vick and he should start over Orton…And then the ? Of the day are the cowgirls better than the Eagles? He says “ITS OBVIOUS”… Really? He is such a dickrider its sickening…Never anything positive about the Eagles…. I think it just eats him up inside that the Eagles are going to be stomping his beloved cowgirls for the next 6 yrs +2 so he bashes them even when they’re not the topic of discussion… Douchebag
RUN VICK RUN!!!!!!
by DesertEagle59 on Sep 2, 2011 11:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
tihs is why you dont watch espn, they jumped the shark years ago
by Easedel on Sep 2, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whats funny is the ither 2 look like they wanna choke him
RUN VICK RUN!!!!!!
by DesertEagle59 on Sep 2, 2011 11:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rec x 100
-- Secretary of State for BGN aka "Most diplomatic man on this site," as appointed by Talon Talent
-- Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
-- "The only 'Dream Team' I know about is the Green Bay Packers." -- Jeffrey Lurie
you should get back at skip and espn by turning the tv off and not watching espn anymore.
its clear that skip just says stuff that pisses you off all the time so why bother to watch it if you know ahead of time thats what is going to happen?
by RogerPodacter on Sep 2, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually i was looking for highlights from the game last night...
I was @work didn’t get to see it so im flipping thru channels trying to find em and soon as the channel comes on he starts his rant…. My bad for trying to catch a highlight or 2
RUN VICK RUN!!!!!!
by DesertEagle59 on Sep 2, 2011 11:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah in all seriousness
The stuff you guys say Skip is saying (I don’t watch, so I’m relying on you) is so blatantly just an attempt to make people care, it doesn’t even work on me.
He is the original “watch me to hate me” dude. Some nearly followed in his footsteps — Rome, Stephen A., Salisbury was good at it for a time, Florio is learning how to do it now — I guess I at least respect his hustle, as disingenuous as it is.
-- Secretary of State for BGN aka "Most diplomatic man on this site," as appointed by Talon Talent
-- Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
-- "The only 'Dream Team' I know about is the Green Bay Packers." -- Jeffrey Lurie
Screw tht clown
If anyone took him serious,he would be on ESPN. Not ESPN 2 with table tennis and water polo finals. BOOM!!!
"I brought two kegs,one of beer,one of gunpowder" -WARCLOUD
by Dunta Is A PUNK on Sep 2, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Henery
I’ve said it from the day he was drafted. He’s going to struggle at times. Not because he lacks confidence or the skill to be an NFL kicker. He just lacks knowledge of NFL stadiums.
So Eagle fans should never jump on this guy. If he kicks 70% this year away from the Linc, I’ll still be confident in him. He needs to figure out the fields and the wind patterns.
i just don’t see how it’s fair to label him as shaky…he missed one kick (from 43 yards) in the preseason. he’s a rookie, but i’m betting that he has the mettle to step in and adjust quickly to the nfl.
and about the akers argument, i love the guy, but he didn’t exactly put his best foot forward in his final game in green.
by clarkgriswold on Sep 2, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Henery will be fine
The only problem is that Eagles fans/press will jump on him when he misses. And he just has to handle that…life as a kicker
I think his whole 1st season will come down to 2, maybe 3 critical kicks, which will establish his reputation as cool under pressure or shaky. Hopefully he rises to the challenge
Donald Lee
Nobody is talking about his performance last night. He’s a solid contributer…ill be really disappointed if the Eagles dont keep him…. I know that we’re all high on Celek around here, but IMO Lee gives you more options…..except for youth….
Clayton had a big game as well, he was real good in coverage and was constantly around the ball….
FLY #7 FLY !!!
I agree on Lee and hope we keep him.
I was reflecting last night on Celek’s recent play and it hasn’t been as good.
Celek a keeper
He just needs more attempts across the middle.After you see him dragging 2 or 3 defenders 5 yards after the catch you will see the light.Last year he was busy blocking,this year,well its early yet, but give it time.
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
by JJeaglerooter on Sep 2, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
The Jets 2nd and 3rd teamers weren’t that impressive to be sure.
I saw a lot of encouraging signs last night.
It was fun watching Dion Lewis run.
I loved the pressure the d-line was putting on. Plus the sacks.
I hope we keep Lewis, Lee, Hunt, Hargrove, Rolle and Moss. I don’t want to keep Hall.
This year’s D-line looks like what last year’s was supposed to be.
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QUICK QUESTION
Should I get a black Babin jersey or a kelly green DRC jersey?
WILL- Keenan Clayton
MIKE- Jamar Chaney
SAM- Moise Fokou
DRC will most likely stick around longer
FLY #7 FLY !!!
by BWestFactor on Sep 2, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
DRC
Im stuck between Allen or DRC myself. Leaning towards Allen tho. None of my boys have his.
"I brought two kegs,one of beer,one of gunpowder" -WARCLOUD
by Dunta Is A PUNK on Sep 2, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i like to support ALL the players
"I brought two kegs,one of beer,one of gunpowder" -WARCLOUD
by Dunta Is A PUNK on Sep 3, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Because he's clearly extremely talented and once fully healthy will no doubt be one of our better
players.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Thanks buddy
"I brought two kegs,one of beer,one of gunpowder" -WARCLOUD
by Dunta Is A PUNK on Sep 3, 2011 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Lewis is a beast. Love em. Reminds me of a young westbrook only more power.
I know its pre season but he looks quick and powerful and makes crazy ass cuts.
Liking Rolle and Hunt as well.
Chad Hall is a better receiver than Moss—-but Moss is a better returner. I think I would like Hall as the 6th WR and let Moss go, let Lewis be the returner.
Dion Lewis
is our secret weapon this year. Exhaust the D with Shady and Brown, and then get Lewis the ball in the flat, or off of a screen, and watch him make people miss.
I still remember Westbrook’s early years when he was the 3rd down back, and he did some jaw-dropping stuff. Expect the same things.
waiting for comment on hit on Kafka
I still find it astounding no flag went on that direct helmet to the chest. but what really gets my craw is the attitude of the one announcer ,saying if it was a “top tier qb” a flag would have flown.Since when does a players pay scale determine a penalty ?that jet came thru and directly speared his chest with no attempt to look up or redirect his head.
no flag , and no disgust of the whole thing from any sport site I could find.Mind you I dont agree with sissy flags for a pinky finger grazing the qb helment, but dropping your head straight into qbs chest is unexcusable to me.
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
Sad but true
Super stars get treated better, get away with more and there is nothing we can do about it.
by Saidrick on Sep 2, 2011 2:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gotta love the possibility
That we may have a formidable ground game this year.
Seems like the line coaching is finally geared to runblock efficiently.which always let me down in the past.
Lets just hope Andy saw that and lets Marty pound a few yds now and then.
Andy…………let your horses run !!!
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
Wait
“Like I said, the more experience for me, the better. We didn’t have the rookie OTAs or anything like that, so I’m just trying to make up for lost time.”
wasn’t this guy the last rookie to report to camp because of a holdout? Also, I have high hopes for the guy but to get beat by a guy who was branded a bust is not a good sign. I didn’t see the game so I’m not sure how many teams he got passed Watkins but I’ll have to watch for myself. I hope it was just once.
He also got zero negotiating time after the draft because of the lockout… It’s not like he was the last first round pick to sign a contract or something.
The Jruth shall be told.
Yes, but also knowing the Eagles they didn't want to pay him that much.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

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