First Eagles depth chart released on PE.com: Thoughts and analysis
by JimmyK on Aug 8, 2011 10:58 AM EDT
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PrintThe Eagles released their first depth chart this morning, and there are a few interesting little things to be found within it. Team depth charts are to be taken with a grain of salt (I mean, we don't even really know who puts these things together *Spuds?*), but as fans, we're going to obsess over them anyway, so we may as well get right to it. I listed them here to make it easier for discussion, and I have a few thoughts. First, the offense:
| Offense | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| WR | Jeremy Maclin | Riley Cooper | Sinorice Moss | Johnnie Lee Higgins |
| Rod Harper | DeAndre Brown | |||
| LT | Jason Peters | Austin Howard | ||
| LG | Todd Herremans | Evan Mathis | Dallas Reynolds | |
| C | Jamaal Jackson | Jason Kelce | AQ Shipley | |
| RG | Danny Watkins | Mike McGlynn | Julian Vandervelde | |
| RT | Ryan Harris | Fenuki Tupou | King Dunlap | |
| TE | Brent Celek | Clay Harbor | Donald Lee | Martell Webb |
| Cornelius Ingram | ||||
| WR | DeSean Jackson | Jason Avant | Chad Hall | Terrence Turner |
| Gerald Jones | Brandon Caleb | Cordario Calvin (cut) | ||
| FB | Owen Schmitt | Stanley Havili | ||
| RB | LeSean McCoy | Ronnie Brown | Dion Lewis | Eldra Buckley |
| Graig Cooper | Derrick Locke | |||
| QB | Michael Vick | Vince Young | Mike Kafka | Jerrod Johnson |
- Johnnie Lee Higgins being behind a minimum of 9 receivers is a bit of a surprise. However, on the bright side for Johnnie, he's the #1 KR and PR, as we'll see momentarily.
- In one of my training camp recaps, I noted that I felt that Gerald Jones was the most impressive WR I had seen among the guys that had no shot of making the team. Happy to see my eye for talent aligns with the Eagles (haha), as he's listed under the 2's just under Jason Avant.
[Note by JimmyK, 08/08/11 11:08 AM EDT ] - It appears I've read the second line incorrectly. Guys on the 2nd line are the 5th, 6th, and 7th etc guys on the pecking order. Therefore, JLH is not behind 9 other receivers.
- Jason Kelce is getting most of the reps with the 1's, but the depth chart is still hanging onto J Jax as the starter.
- Mike McGlynn is listed as a G, not a C.
- Hooray! Ryan Harris is listed as the starting RT. Winston Justice is on the PUP, so he's not listed. I'm not a huge King Dunlap fan, but even still, I'm not sure how he's listed behind Fenuki Tupou. Tupou has been dreadful all camp long.
- Graig Cooper listed above Eldra Buckley is noteworthy. I've been impressed by Cooper.
[Note by JimmyK, 08/08/11 11:12 AM EDT ] - As noted above with my JLH error, Buckley is ahead of Cooper.
- I know everyone is in love with DeAndre Brown's size, but he's right where I'd have put him, too.
- A couple of incumbents are listed over the new guys on the D: Juqua Parker over Jason Babin, and Antonio Dixon over Cullen Jenkins.
- It's a shame Charlie Noonan can't switch names with someone that's going to make the team. It would be fun yelling "Noonan!" Caddyshack style.
- Seeing Casey Matthews' name as the starting MLB should only be a surprise if this is the first thing you've read about Eagles training camp.
- Trevard Lindley ahead of Joselio Hanson is a mild surprise. Hanson has primarily been running with the 1's in the nickle, even ahead of DRC.
- Unless they stash Curtis Marsh on the IR, anyone that thinks Brandon Hughes is making the team over Marsh is crazy. I'm reading that people are starting to come around on Marsh, by the way. I was beginning to doubt my eye for talent.
- I think they have the FS and SS positions flip-flopped. No surprises there otherwise.
| Special Teams | 1 | 2 | 3 |
|---|---|---|---|
| P | Chas Henry | ||
| K | Alex Henery | ||
| H | Chas Henry | Jason Avant | |
| PR | Johnnie Lee Higgins | Sinorice Moss | |
| KOR | Johnnie Lee Higgins | Dion Lewis | Derrick Locke |
| LS | Jon Dorenbos | Brent Celek |
- No sign of D Jax as the punt returner. I'm sure teams around the league will be perfectly happy with DeSean not returning punts against them. The Eagles would be crazy not to utilize his supreme talents in that role.
- I like that they list the "Holder" on the depth chart. I wonder if they're the only team in the league that does that.
What do you guys think?
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no need to put jackson at PR. Do what we did with him last year (and with BWest prior).. But him back there in big situations, or else don’t risk him getting hurt.
by Skulman7 on Aug 8, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Completely disagree
He’s literally a threat to score on any punt return and so he should be in a position to do that as much as possible. He can get hurt playing wr too. This is football, if your scared of getting hurt you shouldnt be on the field.
completely disagree
see Skilman7 comment
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if he wants big money he'll do PR
by sandiegoeaglesfan on Aug 8, 2011 2:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Except he’s 100000x more valuable as a WR as opposed to a PR. We brought in plenty of capable return men this offseason. Like I said, we’ll still use him in big situations, but why risk an injury to our most valuable weapon on special teams? I rather have him fresh on offense.
This is not a new concept, many teams do this to protect important pieces of their offense. Steve Smith of the Panthers, Brian Westbrook a few years back, I’m players like LT, Jamaal Charles, Chris Johnson, Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk would all have been/could be great return men, but it’s not worth the risk to a key part of your offense.
I think this will definitely change before the season & I’m not just saying that because there will be cuts I think there will be a few new 1s & a couple guys in the back will move ahead of others.
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Anyone willing to bet that Avant is listed as the backup holder because he has the best hands on the team?
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Avant actually works with the special teams units. He practices holding in camp.
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Yeah, Avant held in camp last year too. Never saw Celek long-snapping though (this year or last)
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how about ronnie brown as a holder? he is a wildcat qb, so it should come easy for him
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Let’s just say if Celek wasn’t on a Dream Team, he could probably start a LS for any other team in the league.
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by joe_digiacomo on Aug 8, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd actually rather see a skills player hold...
if there’s ever a botched snap or a fake, i’d trust a wr or hb over a punter. i’m surprised more teams don’t do that.
Don't some teams have a backup QB do it?
If we were gonna try a fake FG or PAT for some reason, I’d much rather see VY or Kafka try passing it than Henry or Avant.
Johnnie Lee Higgins being behind a minimum of 9 receivers is a bit of a surprise. However, on the bright side for Johnnie, he’s the #1 KR and PR, as we’ll see momentarily.
I don’t think the DC is ordered that way. I think Higgins is the 4th X so he’s either 7 or 8 on the DC. Since there are only 4 spots anbody listed on the second row is 5+ on the DC.
Ahhhh… Good call.
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Meaning I think Buckley is still ahead of Cooper.
I am a bit concerned that it will be tough for Eldra and Colt Anderson to make this team, I love having those guys on Special Teams.
Yeah Buckley is ahead of Cooper on the depth chart, but I don’t think you’ll miss Eldra on ST as much as you think when we get to the regular season
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I think that was a result of added attention
He might have been our best ST coverage guy two years ago, so I think the drop off could have been a result of increased attention paid to him by the opposing blockers. I watched zero game film before making that last statement so take it for what its worth, but as a coverage guy, your really only getting noticed if you actually make the tackle.
:(
In that case, it appears the Eagles like Terrence Turner more than my guy, Gerald Jones.
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I think once you get past the '3's . . .
there is a fine line between the 4,5,6,7, etc. The real surprise for me is that they have sinorice moss ahead of Johnny Lee Higgins.
Isn’t this a depth chart that Dave Spadaro created? I mean it’’s not something that Andy and the coaching staff put out, right?
Yeah, I don’t know. I asked a few people that same question via twitter, but no answer yet. Still fun though.
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Lawlor said it's the coaches' chart
it did take a while to get an answer on that though, huh?
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I think Spuds addressed this a year or two ago
This is his best estimation of the depth chart, not anything official. Not anything to put a great deal of stock in, but fun to analyze nonetheless.
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by Bob_Q on Aug 8, 2011 11:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Glad to see Harris in the #1 RT position
That spot needed upgraded desperately. Hopefully he’s the answer.
To follow up on that point
I’m even happier to see Tupou’s time at #1 RT ended after one day… that scared that (bleep) out of me.
Yeah...
If Harris go down, I’d rather see Watkins at RT and McGlynn at RG than have Tupou as the backup RT…
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I like the DT depth chart. I want to see Jenkins come in off the bench fresh as either a DE and DT on 3rd downs to wreck havoc. I don’t see Jenkins as a two down lineman that stops the run and contains the QB in the pocket.
I agree about Jenkins
I like him coming off the bench for throwing downs. He gets great penetration, so this makes sense to me. He’s also a little injury prone as well. So getting the most out of him when he is in there would be perfect.
I love him signing with the Eagles but he alsways seems to get nicked up here and there throughout the season.
If you notice, the first team defensive line is more well-rounded
While the second team is a bunch of pass rush specialists.
Regarding the DL rotation
Does Washburn rotate by play, by situation (ie. running play or passing play), by series or a combination of all 3?
I always thought it was by series, meaning that both of the DT sets would have to be capable of playing both the run and pass. Wouldn’t running DTs in and out after each play, or after a few plays eventually tire the big guys out?
Personally, Patty and Dixon would make the most sense on running plays and then Jenkins and Laws on passing plays, but I don’t know if I would want to potentially sub those guys out multiple times on a drive when the other team is moving the ball.
Thoughts?
this is a good question
I noticed that too, that our big acquisitions are 2s at the moment; didn’t think of it as a “run-stopping posse” and “pass-rushing brigade” though.
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One thing to note
With the FA’s like Babin and Higgins is that they have only practices for 3 days, which is probably why they are lower on the chart than expected
Yep...
My thought exactly…I don’t see Parker starting over Babin…I’m guessing it depends on the set…
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This is how I see it
Team
QB Vick Young Kafka
RB McCoy Brown Lewis
FB Schmidt
WR Jackson Maclin Avant Cooper Higgins
TE Celek Harbor Lee
T Peters Harris Howard Justice
G Herremans Watkins Mathis Vandervelde
C Kelce McGlynn
DE Cole Babin Tapp Graham Te-O’Nesheim Parker
DT Dixon Jenkins Patterson Laws
SL Chayney Lloyd
ML Matthews Rolle
WL Fokou Clayton Jordan
CB Asomugha Samuel Rodgers-Cromartie Lindley Marsh
SS Coleman Jarret
FS Allen Page
K Henery
P Henry
LS Dorenbos
Noticeable Cuts
Buckley, Ingram,Dunlap, Hunt, Hanson,M Jackson, J Jackson.
Possible IR (redshirt)
Lloyd, Justice, Patterson, Graham,
If this happens, Hunt, Topou/Dunlap make team.
Im rooting for DeAndre Stone hand Brown, but the numbers don’t look good for him as we usually keep 5 WR.
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That Redshirt IR idea really only applies for Lloyd.
I’m am totally Ok with this roster. I don’t see many undrafted kids in the mix.
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Brown had a great day when I saw him my first day at camp
Not so much recently. I’m not concerned about teams snatching his talents out from under us if we were to cut him.
And a mangled leg
His freshman year he was a beast. Hasn’t been the same since he maraudered his leg.
Kelce over Jamaal Jackson? No way.
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by Philly Eagles on Aug 8, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes way.
Mudd hates fat linemen bro. I saw film of Kelce, I loved the pick. He is short though. Dude is Jeff Saturday 2.0. He starts day 1.
McGlynn is a little as well, Mudd does not like those kind of linemen!!
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No, it won’t happen, I guarantee it.
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by Philly Eagles on Aug 8, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
What won't happen?
Kelce is already running with the ones. Jackson is injury prone and getting older. To be honest, he wasn’t that good when he was healthy.
I like McGlynn because he plays guard, but I’ve read that Mathis has looked good.
Maybe we keep McGlynn as a reserve Center, not sure.
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Yeah, the day I was at camp Kelce was the #1 center because thats the guy Vick was taking snaps from. Jackson was taking snaps with Kafka(who, at the time, was the #2 QB)
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he even looks like jeff saturday which is kinda funny
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Joselio Hanson
You think he’s going to get released?
As much as I live Deandre Brown, I’d have to say he does have a very little chance of making squad. He won’t last on the PS either, some team will snatch him up quickly.
by EAGLES805 on Aug 8, 2011 11:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
numbers are good for him.
Its him vs Higgins vs Hall
I soo hope He spraigns his ankle and we IR him.
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The only team I think that could sign and stash him on the roster is the Rams just because their wide receiver corps is so damn thin
Man, they sure are paying the karmic piper for having Holt and Bruce on their squad for all those years.
by cwel87 on Aug 8, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed but before he gets plucked from PS, I think we’ll cut someone to salvage him
by EAGLES805 on Aug 8, 2011 12:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jimmy, I've didn't notice how you feel about Marsh
I read he is having a good camp. Did you predict this. I didn’t like the pick when they made it. I thought the videos I saw showed those famous STIFF HIPS. He just didn’t look like a CB to me. But I read he has been impressive so far.
Did you like him coming in? You saw him, are you impressed? What do you predict?
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I didn’t really have any thoughts on the guy at all coming into camp. I’d be a liar if I were to say I’ve ever seen a Utah St. game. But he stood out to me right away. I think he’s been the mos impressive rookie so far, keeping in mind that line play is difficult to see from my vantage point on the sidelines.
Some media guys have been killing him (G Cobb comes to mind). Others have been singing his praises (Ruben Frank, me, McLane I think). Opinions are going to vary widely. There are 90 guys out there. It’s impossible to see all 90 every minute you’re out there. You might catch a guy doing something great on one play, while your attention may be elsewhere when he screws up. And vice versa. There’s no instant replay. No tape. You see what you see and jot down your notes. That’s why you see a wide array of opinions on players. Marsh appears to be the most polarizing guy so far, but I’m a fan.
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yeah, I've read he looked good.
But I’ve read that from Rueben Frank and McClane…Haha
GCobb is a boob man. He knows football, but sometimes has a bias opinion.
I group him and Mike Lombardi as very biased guys. I can’t stand Mike, He always wants to spin things to make it look like he knows better than the Eagles FO. He comes off as bitter to me.
GCobb tends to have people he likes and doesn’t like, if you are in his dog house, you can do no good.
Thanks..
Do me a favor, check out that Phillip Hunt, I read he is good. Wonder if he has a chance to make this team, I wonder if he or DTO make this squad, I’m sure we keep one or the other, but not both. Woudn’t matter, neither one will ever dress for a game anyway.
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My time in Lehigh is done. I’m back to my real job this week, and will be visiting the ‘rents this wknd. So I can’t really focus on Hunt anymore. I will say that I do like the kid, more than Te’o anyway. Hunt is viewed by most as a longshot. I give him… ooooh, say… 35/65.
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I don’t think I’VE heard anything about Brian Rolle from TC. I thought he was supposed to be just as good as Von Miller and only fell because he was shorter.
Linebackers are tough to evaluate because there hasn’t really been any tackling. But you’re right – Rolle has been pretty invisible anyway. Same goes for a guy like Jaiquawn Jarrett, as far as not being able to tackle. Those guys will have a chance to do some things that play to their strengths in the preseason games.
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Riley Cooper better show something or else!
1 sad fact about the NFL is that if you play sub par you get cut or traded. I dont understand why and how so many people believe he will develop into something great. I mean, Desean came from no where and was actually not even supposed to be a starter and now hes a superstar. I hear how desean isn’t that good from our own fans. I also hear how riley cooper is going to be awesomeness!!!! He better show something.. because i hear hes looking a little suspect in camp..
Cooper was a rookie last year, and is the #4 WR. I think you need to calm down about that haha.
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Or, lets look at Cooper vs. Avant rookie years
Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD
Avant: 7 68 8.5 9.7 18 5.0 5 1
Cooper: 7 116 8.9 16.6 37 2.4 5 1
Very similar, and I think we can all agree that Avant is a very good #3 position receiver
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I like the depth chart for the most part. I don’t think Parker starts over babin( didn’t he make the probowl last year?). Outside of jordan , our lb depth is very slim. and finally, isn’t jarrett a strong safety/ big hit guy?
by Saidrick on Aug 8, 2011 11:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Nnamdi, Harris: 1st team
Young, DRC, Babin, Jenkins, Page, Mathing, Brown: 2nd team
Hargrove: 3rd team
Landri: 4th team
How dare the Eagles BUY A CHAMPIONSHIP by getting guys in free agency to play on the 2nd team. HOW DARE THEY.
(Yes, Jenkins and Babin will rotate in a lot and honestly will probably jump up to 1st team when all is said and done and once they’ve been able to practice a bit. Shhhhhh.)
On that note, though, anyone else at least a tiny surprised to see Young above Kafka? I know that VY was obviously a fairly high-profile signing and he makes sense as the #2, but from every account I’ve read Kafka has been the much better QB in camp so far (granted, VY has been there three days, but still) and he obviously knows the system better. Plus wasn’t Kolb listed as the original #2 QB the year we brought in Vick?
That’s not to say I’d rather have Kafka in if Vick gets hurt, but given that guys like Jenkins and Babin are listed behind the guys we have now you kinda might think the same would happen with VY. Oh well. Hopefully not an issue…
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by everybodyhitswoohoo on Aug 8, 2011 11:53 AM EDT reply actions
Well...
You don’t pay $4MM to a 3rd stringer…Kafka had the advantage, and has taken it…but you can’t deny VY’s physical tools…but WCO is a lot tougher to learn than most offenses, and VY needs some time…so I’m guessing they’ll give him until the season starts and he looks bad on a gameday before they drop him to 3rd string…
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By the way...
I predict Kafka will be the next guy we trade for a future 2nd rounder…lol…
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he looks like the next matt hasselbeck to me
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By the way...
Look at that 2nd team. That team could easily compete with the Redskins.
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by JimmyK on Aug 8, 2011 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
They're building for the future
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We had a 2nd team far worse than the one we have now and they competed with
the Cowboys.
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by wild_eagle on Aug 8, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maclin insurance/Changes are coming
good to see Maclin still in there. n as good of a camp Jenkins has been having i wouldve expected him to be starting but with the rotation n how early it is before the season starts(1 month) Im sure their will be “significant” changes made down the road ahead.
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by Jason-E on Aug 8, 2011 12:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
So much
for reports Ingram was running with the twos. 5th on the depth chart? ouch. Sad because he looked amazing his rookie year
I feel for Ingram
I don’t think he has a shot with this deep crop of TE’s, but I think he could be a stud on another team. Injuries in the first 2 seasons are tough to overcome.
Jimmy:
I think they have the FS and SS positions flip-flopped.
I noticed Jeff McLane seemed to have this flip-flopped too on a depth chart he made prior this release. Look at what he said when questioned about it:
Q: I think you switched the safeties on the depth chart. Allen is FS correct?
Jeff McLane: No, Coleman is technically the FS.
Q: your wrong… nate Allen is the FS. Kurt Coleman and Jarret are the SS.
Jeff McLane: And no I’m not. Coleman just told me he’s the FS.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Aug 8, 2011 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
damn
allen can’t tackle worth shit. He can’t play in the box
by CornOnTheKolb on Aug 8, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s a good tackler. He just doesn’t have to ability to shed blocks and the ability to attack the LOS, the way a SS should.
by The Pied Piper on Aug 8, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Name knockoff <.<
Anyway, in todays NFL there is little difference between FS and SS. Think of Dawkins, who was used more like a traditional in-the-box SS.
In our new system, this is especially true. Both DEs have pass rushing priorities, both WILL and SAM have primary coverage responsibilies and will play off the line.
So really, it doesn’t matter any more. Rarely will you see players dropping into the box, if I’m understanding the new scheme.
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I used to be Corn On The Kolb but forgot my password like 2-3 years ago
so i made up this one. anyway, i got all that from Juan’s PC this morning. Still does not change the fact Allen is not all the good at tackling…..SO when he does have to play close to the LOS, he will get washed out and miss many tackles
by CornOnTheKolb on Aug 8, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Castillo apparently calls the traditional FS a SS, and vice versa. That’s the confusion.
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Derek of IB just tweeted this...
If the wide nine actually looks like a 4-3 over front with the ends out wide, there’s going to be a LOT of room on the weak side … which means you now need a WILL who can not just run, but also take on blocks, because that LG is going to be looking to murder him … and it’s not a terrible idea to stick the “strong” safety behind him in case he misses. Then the FS is on TE side for coverage… but again that’s speculative and we’ll see soon enough.
Could that be related to the flip?
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Aug 8, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
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I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
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No chance. I think they could get something for Parker if they tried, but he won’t get cut outright.
Hunt is battling it out with players at other positions.
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yea i think your version is more likely – if they really need to free up some cap space, they may try to trade parker for some future picks (he has a pretty high cap value this year IIRC).
doubtful that he gets cut for the sole reason that hunt makes the team, though.
by RogerPodacter on Aug 8, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
its a possibility, especially if we have to move parker to clear some cap space.
by RogerPodacter on Aug 8, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
my guess – he’s only been in camp for like 3 days. by the time the season starts, i’d expect him to be starting.
by RogerPodacter on Aug 8, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
ya i hope so
we didnt sign him to be a back-up
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by PHIeaglesFan17 on Aug 8, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t doubt your eye for talent…Marsh looks like he could be a steal
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he is having an amazing camp. and with nnamdi and asante there he can learn alot
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by PHIeaglesFan17 on Aug 8, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone see Avants one handed diving grab in the endzone yesterday?
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by phuckthat on Aug 8, 2011 12:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
No, but all of the beat guys tweeted about it. Been hearing that Avant has been making great catches all throughout camp.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Aug 8, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He makes great catches in the regular season.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-countdowns/09000d5d8143a0d5
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by Philly Eagles on Aug 8, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed he does. Had a few clutch drops last year which is unfortunate b/c I think some people unwisely discredit how good his hands are.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Aug 8, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He has arguably the best hands in the NFL.
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by Philly Eagles on Aug 8, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess is quite a bit, Juan made it clear that he wanted to play all 3 CB’s often.
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by Philly Eagles on Aug 8, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
47% of the time
that is how often 3 wr’s are used in the game (i saw it somewhere)
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by sports00fan00 on Aug 8, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I would bet the eagles base D would b a nickel set with DNA in and Chaney and Mathews at LB
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by Mr.electric10 on Aug 8, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
My favorite D is probably the 4-2-5
although that’s really 3 safeties sted 3 corners, so not a true nickel. I love the versatility of having guys who can tackle and cover on the field (realize that doesn’t necessarily describe what we’re working with, but having our best players play is ideal).
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Wow...
Hunt’s lookin good in those 1v1’s.
by Kanade_Tachibana on Aug 8, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, I was impressed. I don’t know how people think he doesn’t make the team.
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by Philly Eagles on Aug 8, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
OT, but probably the thing im looking forward to the most this yr is juan on the sideline
Everyday at lehigh Juan is jacked up. He has every players attention. He lays out challenges and players seem to respond. I can’t wait to have that fiery coach roaming the sideline.
by VRFC8 on Aug 8, 2011 1:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It's D.Browns own fault he is were he is...
still disappointing tho…
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What can we expect on Thursday?
I know there will probably be a bigger post on this later in the week, but I am pretty antsy to see this roster on the field this Thursday. Do we have an idea yet of who will be playing and for how long? I believe first week of preseason is pretty limited for starters, but I still thought I would ask.
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Im tellin u what. Get rid of Parker cuz he cant perform worth crap forreal. Babin is 10 times quicker and more skilled. Cullen Jenkins, put him in if you want there rush game to be stopped. They better get this defense right and the coaches need to stop bein stupid. Or they will once again miss out on Super Bowl.
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