Locks, bubble boys, and difficult cuts: A far too early look at the 31 players fighting for the final 13 roster spots
by JimmyK on Aug 6, 2011 10:01 AM EDT
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After attending Eagles training camp for a week, I thought it might be fun to figure out which guys are locks, which guys are on the bubble, and what camp battles remain to be fought. After putting it all down on paper, I reached a very disheartening conclusion - The Eagles are going to have to cut a lot of good players. First, lets get the locks out of the way. I should note that these locks don't factor in potential trades. For example, if there's a crunch at DE, the Eagles could consider trading Juqua Parker and his $3.5 million salary, but I highly doubt they'd just cut him outright. The same could be said for others like Joselio Hanson, or even Asante Samuel if a "too good to turn down" offer presented itself. The locks:
Locks - Offense
QB - Michael Vick, Vince Young, Mike Kafka (3)
RB - LeSean McCoy, Ronnie Brown (2)
FB - No locks
WR - DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Jason Avant, Riley Cooper (4)
TE - Brent Celek, Clay Harbor (2)
OT - Jason Peters, Winston Justice, Ryan Harris (3)
OG - Todd Herremans, Danny Watkins (2)
C - Jamaal Jackson (1)
Locks on offense - 17
Locks - Defense
DE - Trent Cole, Jason Babin, Brandon Graham (may start season on PUP list), Darryl Tapp, Juqua Parker (5)
DT - Cullen Jenkins, Mike Patterson, Antonio Dixon, Trevor Laws (4)
LB - Jamar Chaney, Moise Fokou, Casey Matthews, Keenan Clayton (4)
CB - Nnamdi Asomugha, Asante Samuel, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Joselio Hanson (4)
S - Nate Allen, Kurt Coleman, Jaiquawn Jarrett (3)
Locks on defense - 20
Locks - Special Teams
K - Alex Henery (1)
P - Chas Henry (1)
LS - Jon Dorenbos (1)
Locks on special teams - 3
Total locks - 40
Here's where it gets really tricky. Last year around this time, there were probably about 20 or so players "on the bubble." This year I have 31 players fighting for the remaining 13 spots, meaning that 18 bubble players are going to be cut. That's what happens when you draft 10+ players every year. The best players from your draft classes survive, but there are some legitimate NFL caliber casualties that simply can't fit onto the roster.
Here are my bubble players. Keep in mind that they are fighting against all the bubble players, not just those players at their individual positions. Plus, they also have to worry about guys getting cut from other teams around the league that the Eagles could potentially pick up, not to mention... free agency still isn't even over. The bubble boys:
On the bubble - Offense
QB - Nobody on the bubble
RB - Dion Lewis, Eldra Buckley, Graig Cooper (3)
FB - Owen Schmitt, Stanley Havili (2)
WR - Chad Hall, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Sinorice Moss (3)
TE - Donald Lee (1)
OT - King Dunlap, Austin Howard, Fenuki Tupou (3)
OG - Julian Vandervelde, Evan Mathis (2)
C - Jason Kelce, Mike McGlynn (G/C) (2)
On the bubble - Defense
DE - Daniel Te'o-Nesheim, Phillip Hunt (2)
DT - Cedric Thornton, Anthony Hargrove (2)
LB - Brian Rolle, Akeem Jordan, Greg Lloyd, Rashad Jeanty (4)
CB - Trevard Lindley, Curtis Marsh, Brandon Hughes (3)
S - Marlin Jackson, Colt Anderson, Jarrad Page, Jamar Adams (4)
K/P/LS - Nobody on the bubble.
Obviously, this look is really early, especially since the Eagles have yet to even play a preseason game, and this list remains very fluid, of course. This is just how I see it so far after a week and a half of camp. Think of it as a menu. Which 13 of these guys make your list, and are there any guys not listed that make your final 53?
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There is no way the Eagles part with Curtis Marsh or Trevard Lindley. They’re going 6 deep at corner. And I don’t have a problem with it because look at the weapons that Green Bay is trotting out:
Jennings, Driver, Nelson, Jones, Cobb and Finley.
You have to have depth at corner to stick with the Packers and Saints, the two biggest things standing between the Eagles and a Lombardi trophy.
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6 CBs is certainly a possibility (they kept that many last year), but it’s not a lock.
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I hope it’s a lock because if we part with Lindley or Marsh it would be a bad move. I bet the Eagles go thin at linebacker because it seems like they want to do what the Packers do and use the nickel package a lot.
And it upsets me that Parker is a lock, we just can’t get rid of that guy.
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I think Juqua will benefit from being more of rotational player this year. I thought he looked sharp last year in the beginning of the year (since he seems to wear down as the season goes on, like all players, but to more of an extent), especially when he was sharing time with BG.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Aug 6, 2011 10:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would agree with all of that, including that they keep both Lindley and Marsh. I’ve been praising Marsh – Others have been killing him. Lot’s of time to let it play out.
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I think if they go with 5 than Hanson is the casualty.
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by h2o_34_35_44 on Aug 6, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree. Where's the ST contribution?
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couldnt marsh just be sent to the practice squad if he doesnt make the team?
How exactly does that work?
by sandiegoeaglesfan on Aug 6, 2011 3:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would agree with you.
Bad move to get rid of Lindley or Marsh.
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I noticed Ingram is not on the bubble, in your mind is he already out of here? Or might he end up on the practice squad again. Did he even look healthy at camp?
He has made a few catches here and there, but I think Donald Lee is ahead of him. A very real possibility is that the Eagles may opt to only keep 2 TEs. Ingram’s primary competition isn’t just Lee, but guys at other positions.
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i would like to think that owen schmitt is a lock...
same with donald lee, dunlap, and lindley. plus, i wouldnt be surprised if parker gets cut/traded for cap reasons… we have a wr to re-sign.
Dunlap also stepped up when needed last year. He’s a good backup option not making a ton of money.
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by h2o_34_35_44 on Aug 6, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You take 1 look at Dunlap and he screams potential. Mudd started him off at 1st team RT in the early days of training camp. Now he is down to 3rd team OL on Saturday. Mudd has seen enough, he’s gone.
Not true.
He rotates people around and makes decisions.. Everybody gets a chance, just because he’s with the 3’s doesn’t mean Mudd hates him.
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He rotates people around and makes decisions
I think we are agreeing with each other, Mudd made a decision… to move him from 1st team to 3rd team. That coupled with his horrid performance at 1st team is a good indication of where his chances are at making the 53 man roster.
I mean and THEN makes a decision.
I was thinking of 2 ways to word it properly and combined them both lol.
He’s fine. Only guys not moving around are Herremans and Peters.
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Your saying just cause he’s not taking reps with the 1s dose not mean he’s not still at the top of the depth chart.
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As of right now from what I'm reading...
Peters, Herremans and Watkins are locks at LT, LG and RG. That leaves a hole at Center and a hole at RT.
Mudd gives every single guy a shot. He rotates them… Hell look at the story with Jeff Saturday.
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A lot of guys that you have on the bubble to me look like they aren’t even CLOSE to making the team.
Ex: Marlin Jackson, Jamar Adams, Brandon Hughes, Buckley, jeanty (although our Lb core isn’t that good at this point), etc.
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Hall is getting tons of reps, and he was on the team for the entire season last year. No question he has a shot, like it or not (and I’m not a fan, personally).
Marlin Jackson is also getting a ton of reps, running primarily with the 1’s and 2’s. Personally, I think Marlin has looked gimpy and slow, but I can’t ignore the reps.
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Could they be trying to get a good look at him?
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by h2o_34_35_44 on Aug 6, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe. Fenuki Tupou was running with the 1’s yesterday. That made no sense – He’s been dreadful. Could be the same thing there.
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I think Mudd’s just mixing and matching to see what he’s got.
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Mudd loves to rotate guys and will pick whoevers best at each positon..
He doesn’t care, pretty much each chance you get is a clean slate.
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I think Hall is getting tons of reps to stand in for DeSean Jackson. Once Jackson is back (and he gets a new contract,) I expect Halls reps will drop dramatically.
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“Unless they can invent some sort of injury for Curtis Marsh so that he can be stashed away on the IR list, the Eagles may face a very difficult decision between Marsh and Trevard Lindley.”
We are talking about the eagles here. Paging Dr. Fakeshit, please report to Exam Room 1. Btw I wonder if any of these guys ever have reservations about going along with this “redshirt” shit.
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by foos05 on Aug 6, 2011 10:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dislocated fingernail.
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Based on the fact that Kelce is getting a lot of 1st team reps (and actualy doing well there from what I hear, unlike Tupuo) I think it’s likely he makes the team.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Aug 6, 2011 10:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I would agree. If I were to actually guess a 53 man roster at this point, he’d make it.
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He was born to make this roster.
I believe they drafted him knowing he would be a player.
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It’s not on until noon ET
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Are they not archiving old TC Live’s anymore?
I was hoping to see some of the practice footage from yesterday, but they only have the Audio Podcast up.
you have about an hour and 45 minutes left.
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Same here.
I tried, but could not get anything to watch.
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i would think that akeem jordan makes the squad based on his versatility
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He’d probably make my 53 man roster, too, especially since he’s also a good special teamer. The fact that the Eagles took a long time to re-sign him should be worrisome to Akeem though.
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With uncertainty of Patterson’s health and Cullen Jenkins doubling as a DE on run down, it’s possible they keep 5, yes. Keep in mind, they just had to sign like 3 guys off the street just to have bodies at DT a couple days ago.
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Also I’m not sure I would call Winston Justice a lock.
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I'd see
Parker and Hanson being off the locks. I think one if not both will go one way or another because of their increased contracts compared to some others. I’d say Hanson has more of a chance to stick around though. I think Parker is as good as gone with Graham eventually coming back, and Hunt looking pretty good coming off the end.
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Same with Jackson I would love to see him back and healthy as in pre ACL tear but, I’m going to shit in one hand and wish in my other I’ll tell you which one fills up faster.
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by h2o_34_35_44 on Aug 6, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Make sure you wash your hands before you type your despise. There are already enough shitty comments on Philly.com.
by ATG. on Aug 6, 2011 3:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ok Jimmy, since you’re at camp everyday, if you had to fill in the gaps right now, what’s your roster look like?
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
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Oof, I’d really have to think about that one. I’ll come back to that.
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Would you sign
Lofa Tatupu?
Or are you okay with what you’ve seen from Casey Matthews?
Or to put it another way… are you okay with the starting lineup as a whole? So you’re okay with maybe covering up any slight weaknesses at LB or S with absolute strengths at DL and CB? (Kinda confusing, but you get what I mean)
Tatupu’s knees are fucked. I’d rather stick with Matthews.
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Really?
I didn’t know he had knee problems. Hasn’t he started every game he’s played in?
I know he missed 11 games in 2009, but other than that he hasn’t missed much time.
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by packimop on Aug 6, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I like this comment.
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by h2o_34_35_44 on Aug 6, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Huh.
Lindley, Marsh
Jordan
Te’o (and Hunt if Patterson can go)
Hargrove (if Patterson can’t go)
Either Anderson (for ST) or Page
Lewis
Schmitt
Mathis, Kelce, McGlynn
Dunlap
Either Higgins or Moss (I would guess Higgins, but according to reports, Moss has been having himself a camp).
There are some decent players that are going to have to be let go.
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I agree with most of the list, but I wouldn’t consider Harbor and Joselio Hanson locks. They do have a very very good chance of making the team, but I don’t think I’d but them in the lock category. Then again, its touch to say theyre on the bubble, kinda in between both categories lol. But like you said very early list and a lot can change after some preseason games.
I’d love to see DeAndre Brown make it, but I know thats a huge stretch at this point
Is there any chance Dorenbos goes in order to get another OL in there? I seem to remember McGlynn getting reps at LS either last season or the one before. Someone like him on Kelce could be put in there for competition to make the squad deeper.
by holdsoftheships on Aug 6, 2011 10:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
A good, reliable LS is valuable, as in you have to have one if you're going to be a SB threat.
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He can't be cut anyway. His wife is too hot
by The Fish on Aug 6, 2011 1:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Very good post. Rec'd
Owen Schmitt, Evan Mathis are locks IMO
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I love Dion and Cooper and would really be thrilled to keep both of them and feel them out over the next year. The only positive I can say for keeping an Eldra Buckley is his hairdoooo. Cut that bum and lets the new kids show what they can do.
The Eagles have never cut a 3rd round draft pick during his rookie season. In fact I can only think of 2 times when that has ever happened in the NFL. Curtis Marsh is a lock.
Don’t be so sure. The Eagles have also never had the kind of talent they have at the CB position this season. I think they’ll do everything they possibly can to keep him, but it’s not a lock.
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Mash makes the team over Hanson. Jimmy you know this just as much as I do. Worst case is they trade him for a late round pick to someone with a DB injury.
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by h2o_34_35_44 on Aug 6, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Hanson was really good last year. He’s having a huge camp. Reid loves him. Castillo loves him. I’d be stunned if Hanson wasn’t on the team this year.
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So if they go with 5 CBs who’s the odd man out?
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by h2o_34_35_44 on Aug 6, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think its Nnamdi. Didn’t you hear? He got burnt by Sinorice Moss on a play yesterday.
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by DickMuffin on Aug 6, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Marsh will be stashed on IR if he does not make the 53.
by Route36 on Aug 6, 2011 12:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lewis
Schmitt
Higgins (R/S)
Lee (I like Moss over Lee as a player coming out of TC, but we need a 3rd TE more than another WR)
Howard
McGlynn (or Mathis but not both)
Kelce
Hunt (Trade Parker)
Thornton, Hargrove
Jordan
Lindley, Marsh, Hughes (Trade Hanson)
Anderson
It’s so early hard to say. If Hanson and Parker stay, cut Hughes and Hargrove. We’re going to have some choice players on PS imo .. we’ll probably lose one or two from there.
It is hard – I can’t do my own math. Hargrove gone to get me under..
by Michael Jorden on Aug 6, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
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by nyeaglesfan624 on Aug 6, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah.
I just want some new boxers.
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Oh.
Well then can you hook me up with some Henes Comfortsoft?
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Do you think...
Colt Anderson makes them team based on his special teams performance?
by G00SE on Aug 6, 2011 10:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I would say definitely if he looks as good in ST as last year
by Michael Jorden on Aug 6, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
53 man roster
Was their any talks in the CBA about expanding the number of players on a team to say 55-56?
really like marsh and lindley
I would also like to keep hunt as well, and btw I’m not one of the bandwagoners, I joined the day befire nnamdi
in that order.
by metseaglesknicks on Aug 6, 2011 10:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hunt sounds like the real deal for a rotational pass rusher – I hope he shows enough to make Parker expendable. I like Parker a lot, but if we can get the same production with younger and cheaper…. Hope Hunt pulls it off.
by Michael Jorden on Aug 6, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
17.5
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Why does everyone think Lee is a good blocker? Harbor is just as good as him and that’s not saying much. Harbor is probably a better run blocker too.
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Huh? I was getting ready to argue that Lee is a much better blocker.. than I came upon this..
“Lee is an undersized veteran who has developed into a solid target for the Packers. He has good speed, balance and agility as a route runner as well as good hands to be a reliable receiver on short and intermediate patterns. Lee has courage and concentration in traffic to make tough grabs away form his frame. He has quickness and agility in and out of his breaks and understands how to use his long arms and burst to get separation. Lee appears to have maxed out his potential as an NFL tight end and will yield his starting role and playing time to the younger Jermichael Finley.” – ESPN Insider Scouting Report
So ya I guess it doesn’t matter who gets that 2nd TE spot either way,
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by IgglesFanDeployd on Aug 6, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s because he is. According to PFF, he is the 11th best blocking TE in their 2008-2010 grade. Allowing just 8 pressures in 153 blocking snaps.
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153 blocking snaps in three seasons? Yeah, like I said, he isn’t a good blocker, the Packers didn’t even trust him to block.
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isn’t Riley Cooper having a bad camp so far? Could it be possible that a guy like DeAndre Brown could be kept as our possible big WR?
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by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 6, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions
On DeAndre Brown, by the way: Huge guy, Huge. Looks like horse out there. But there’s a reason 256 names came off the board in the draft and he wasn’t one of them. He’s looked OK so far in camp, but I haven’t seen anything special. He needs to be special to make it.
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I think you're underestimating just how badly the man mutilated his leg
While teams have been known to take a flyer on players they feel have a lot of talent and a chance to recover from those kinds of injuries, this year’s draft was a particularly deep one.
I’m not saying he deserved to be drafted…but Marques Colston was almost an UDFA. He’s a pretty fair comp in terms of measurables. You can’t bring the bias of draft slots to a camp – the rookies are the rookies, and the players who are all clawing and scraping their way to an NFL roster are in the same boat.
This is such a poorly worded post
While teams have been known to take a flyer on players they feel have a lot of talent and a chance to recover from those kinds of injuries, this year’s draft was a particularly deep one.
Teams who would have taken a flyer on him in years past had other targets who were much lower risk. Also, he’s a bit of a baby.
You can’t bring the bias of draft slots to a camp – the rookies are the rookies, and the players who are all clawing and scraping their way to an NFL roster are in the same boat.
Players are obviously drafted according to their perceived talent, so there’s going to be unintentional bias in this sort of evaluation – Danny Watkins will make the team, for example, because he’s a really good football player and deserves a slot – but we knew that coming into camp. It’s the players who are drafted from about the 4th round on where the talent kind of melds together, and it’s just about who can contribute to the team more.
Brown has the potential to a dimension not seen in Philadelphia since Howard Carmichael, strictly based off the sheer size he could bring to red zone packages. I don’t think we can underestimate that kind of niche role, undrafted free agent be damned.
Much better!
wasn't billy mcmullen supposed to be that?
he had TO’s size etc., just hands of stone that could be taught better. I forget, maybe that’s a bad comp, but I would think Brown should at least get a spot on the PS based on your report, and I personally would love to keep Brown if he ends up having a camp as good as Cooper’s.
I was gong to say the same thing.
I like the size and speed. And after being big man on campus I think the guy has something to prove. Better he proves it with the Eagles than against the Eagles. I really hope Brown makes the team. Very rarel do you get a 6’6" WR with 4.4 speed in the nfl.
I would love to blow up Texas Stadium... With team still in it
The difference is Brown is taller, runs faster, and has better hands
Which means that Brown is a much more appealing prospect
cool thanks man
great post!
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Juan Castillo switching from the offensive line coach to Defensive coordinator is soooo dumb it might just work.
by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 6, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see them going without at least 3 TE’s so it’s more is Lee better than Ingram now. I think Ingram is done. I haven’t heard much about Webb, but his size interested me when we picked him up, but I’m sure there’s no roster spot for him either (Red Zone dreams dashed..)
Wish we could have room for D.Brown also but doesn’t sound like it. I haven’t anything overly positive.
Actually other than Moss, I haven’t heard anything all that great about any of our WRs……
While he's by no means a lock, I think DeAndre deserves mention in the list of 31
He’s been lights out in camp, and with his measurables as insane as they are, there’s definitely a non-zero chance he breaks camp with the team.
What?
DeAndre has looked awful to me. Terrible routes and a total lack of awareness.
I’d take Moss or Hall over him in a heartbeat.
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I think people are more in love with is size than production.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
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Offense
Pretty good list for the locks… the rest can only be determined by their preseason play… but if we had to guess now, I would say
1. I’d like to see if Havili can offer something different / better than Schmitt (+1).
2. I think they keep 6 wr’s – one on the bubble list (unsure who) and hopefully one from the free agents / semi-retired list (+2).
3. I think the surprise is going to come out of the TE’s – Brent Celek isn’t as great as some people might think he is, he is good but not great yet, this year will show if he’s going to step it up a level or not, I don’t know if a great tight end is on the squad… but I think they keep 3 tight ends, Lee or Ingram (+1)
4. Winston Justice is a big question mark on the o-line, I definitely see them keeping the guys they drafted this year in Kelce and Vanderwelde and the Guard they picked up Evan Mathis. The rest will be just backing up, so it won’t make a difference who makes it, but all in all, 10 o-linemen, so thats (+4).
That’s 8 additions to the offense, which brings the total upto 25.
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Forgot to add the 3rd rb (hopefully D Lewis), will have to stay with 9 linemen instead of 10 to keep the 3rd rb. Still keeps us at 25 on offense.
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by Eagladelphia on Aug 6, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Brent Celek is that great tight end. He was misused last year.
by Eaglesadvocate on Aug 6, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Celek has had some drops though, maybe due to his thumb (?) last season, but I’d like to see less drops early on. If he isn’t looking focused I could see Harbor starting.
by Michael Jorden on Aug 6, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
While drops were part of the problem, the most significant reason for his lack of production was that the Eagles were keeping him in to block more often.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Aug 6, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
hunt or teo for the 6th de is still iffy for me
2 players left who i think are either free agents or currently on another team
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by phuckthat on Aug 6, 2011 11:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
My guys
Let me say that I haven’t been to camp so a lot of my opinion is based on what I’ve read.
FB -Schmitt – he did a great job last year blocking. I like his toughness/psychoness
RB – Graig Cooper – from his bio and what Jimmy has reported he sounds like a great addition.
WR – Higgens – A good KR option
TE – Lee – He is a beast of blocker. We need that for goal line and short yardage downs.
OT – they all stink. If they had to start I would worried for our backs lives.
OG – Mathis – He sounds good:)
C – McGlyn I liked him last year.
DE – Te’O – I just want them to be right. And I know Evil Banner hates him. EB is funny when he’s mad!
DT – Hargrove – bc he has experience.
LB – Jeanty – from what Jimmy wrote he seems like a bad ass.
DB – Lindley and Marsh the young bucks!
S – Not sure I like any of these guys. Throwing a dart and saying Colt.
Thats 13
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by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 6, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions
I kinda hope
they trade Hanson for a fifth round pick. Get these young guys some reps.
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Juan Castillo switching from the offensive line coach to Defensive coordinator is soooo dumb it might just work.
by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 6, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
good post but I’m not convinced Hanson is a lock. But it’s because I hate him but I rather have Lindley and Marsh
Right now I've got:
QB: Vick / Young / Kafka
RB: McCoy / Brown / Lewis
FB: Schmitt
WR: Jackson / Maclin / Avant / Cooper / Lee-Higgins
TE: Celek / Harbor / Lee
LT: Peters
LG: Herremans / Mathis
C: Jackson / Kelce
RG: Watkins / McGlynn
RT: Harris / Dunlap
LE: Babin / Parker / Te’o
UT: Laws / Patterson / Hargrove
NT: Jenkins / Dixon
RE: Cole / Tapp
SLB: Chaney / Jordan
MLB: Matthews
WLB: Fokou / Clayton / Rolle
CB: Asomugha / Samuel / Rodgers-Cromartie / Hanson / Lindley / Marsh
S: Jarrett / Page
S: Allen / Coleman
K: Henery
P: Henry
LS: Dorenbos
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this looks about right for me
though i think this all becomes much clearer once we get into the preseason games
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by Ian David Barland on Aug 6, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
Defense
1. I think they keep 5 cb’s, either Samuel or Hanson goes (traded), Marsh and Lindley stay (+1)
2. I think they keep 6 d-ends, hopefully Hunt and Teo make it, not sure if both Parker and Tapp remain with what they are making (+1)
3. D-tackle, Mike Patterson might go on IR, just 4 d-tackles though, between one of the new guys they just got or someone we might not know of.
4. Have to keep 4 safeties, Page or Marlin (+1)
5. And 6 lb’s – Lloyd and Rolle or another free agent (+2)
Thats 5 additions to the defense, which brings us to 25 on defense.
The 3 special teamers are a lock as was stated in the post. I’m still hoping for an addition or two to the team via free agency. You know Howie never stops looking.
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by Kanade_Tachibana on Aug 6, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
My 13 plus 6 PS
Page
McGlynn
Kelce
Jordan
Schmidt
Teo
Lee
Dunlap
Lindley
Anderson
Moss
Hargrove
Marsh
(Hanson gets cut opening up 1 more)
Buckley
Practice Squad (6)
Hall
Lewis
Howard
Rolle
Vandervelde
Hunt
My 13..
RB – Dion Lewis
FB – Owen Schmitt
WR – Johnnie Lee Higgins
TE – Donald Lee
OT – Austin Howard
OG – Evan Mathis
C – Jason Kelce
DE – Phillip Hunt
DT – Anthony Hargrove
LB – Akeem Jordan
CB – Trevard Lindley, Curtis Marsh
S – Colt Anderson (unless Page starts tearing it up)
I hope Hunt makes it on DE, and I hope Page makes it at Safety. I know Page can have injury problems, but like Jenkins, is a beast when healthy.
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i wonder if the eagles are going to play the starters a little bit more this preseason compared to the past
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by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Aug 6, 2011 1:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well...
Whatever the roster, this is an excellent problem to have…Watching TCL and man, Watkins looked really good in the 1-1 with Hargrove…quick feet…
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Per Eskin:
DeSean Jackson: he’s coming to camp. I’m told absolutely, positively he will b in camp on monday morning. This is it. Djax will be back.
Hope he’s right.
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by Dennis Downey on Aug 6, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
QB: Vick / Young / Kafka
RB: McCoy / Brown / Lewis
FB: Schmitt
WR: Jackson / Maclin / Avant / Cooper / (brown)-if he impresses, or (moss) good camp!
TE: Celek / Harbor
LT: Peters
LG: Herremans / Mathis
C: Jackson / Kelce
RG: Watkins / McGlynn
RT: Harris / Dunlap
LE: Babin / Graham / Te’o
UT: Laws / Patterson / Hargrove
NT: Jenkins / Dixon
RE: Cole / Tapp/ Hunt
SLB: Chaney / Jordan
MLB: Matthews
WLB: Fokou / Clayton / jeanty
CB: Asomugha / Samuel / Rodgers-Cromartie / Hanson / Lindley / Marsh
S: Jarrett / Anderson
S: Allen / Coleman
K: Henery
P: Henry
LS: Dorenbos
by green_pete_trucking on Aug 6, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
McGlynn, Curtis and Marsh are locks.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
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Yep.
To versatile of a backup.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
What about DeAndre Brown?
Is he not on the bubble? I thought he was having a great camp and he’s a beast
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by CarolinaGreen on Aug 6, 2011 1:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Roster...
QB: Vick, Young, Kafka
RB: Shady, Brown, Lewis, Buckley
FB: Schmitt
WR: DJacc, Mac, Avant, Cooper, Moss
TE: Celek, Lee
OT: Peters, Harris, Justice, Dunlap
OG: Herremans, Watkins, Mathis, McGlynn
C: Jackson, Kelce
DE: Cole, Babin, Tapp, DTO, Hunt
DT: Jenkins, Laws, Dixon, Patterson (Hargrove Patterson Pending)
OLB: Fokou, Chaney, Clayton, Jeanty
MLB: Matthews, Jordan
CB: Nnamdi, Asante, DRC, Hanson, Lindley, Marsh
S: Allen, Page
S: Jarrett, Coleman
K: Alex
P: Chas
LS: Dorenbos
Due to the acquisition of Jeanty, Anderson or Buckley becomes expendable. It will go down to preseason play but for right now I have Buckley on the team. The hardest cuts were made along the D-Line and the final spot on it will go to DTO over Hargrove. However, preseaon play will determine this outcome, and it seems as though Washburn wants him to succeed.
Practice Squad:
RB: Cooper
FB: Havili
WR: Brown
OL: Vandervelde
DT: Thornton
LB: Rolle
S: Adams
I see Hall back to the prasctice squad as well.
He’s invested too much not too. Other than that I can see this happening.
by nyeaglesfan624 on Aug 6, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Hall
Is he still eligible for PS?
by ProtoTyler on Aug 6, 2011 9:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jimmy
a lot of people are loving Hunt so far. Is he really playing that well?
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Juan Castillo switching from the offensive line coach to Defensive coordinator is soooo dumb it might just work.
i really hope they keep brown
hes a freak
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Potential Upsets on the final roster (my predictions)
I agree with most of what you wrote, with the exceptions/notes below:
Colt Anderson (90% to make the team) his special teams contribution is invaluable. Also, safeties blow at WR vs. CB drills, so don’t read into his performance there. He could show some improvement at safety in preseason games. I think he’s as close to a lock on the team as you can get for his position on the depth chart.
Cooper (75%, not a lock) has had a really lack-luster camp, how committed to him are we? I wouldn’t be surprised if his spot is lost unless he has a big preseason game. If he was 3 inches shorter, he would’ve already been cut last year.
Chad Hall (25% to make the team) – Once again, he’s the talk of a lot of training camp reports. He performs way better in drills than on the field vs people twice his size. Don’t get your hopes up, he’s getting cut again this year unless there are injuries.
Curtis Marsh (100% to make the team) – He’s a 3rd rnd pick playing 2nd team D with DRC right now ahead of Lindley. Lindley would be gone before him, but I think we’ll trade Hanson instead of cutting Lindley.
Juqua Parker/Joselio Hanson (Trade em!) 4 mil and 2 mil salaries in crowded positions.
Hunt and Teo both make the team with JP traded – With no JP trade, I see Hunt going to practice squad and Teo getting 1 last chance.
Moss or Hall is a tough call. I would give it to Moss though.
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by AnthroEagle on Aug 6, 2011 6:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not even on KR/PR? Dudes got crazy speed.
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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 6, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
What about JLH?
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!
What's the love for JLH?
He’s not that good.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
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Possibly not, but I don’t think he compares unfavorably to Chad Hall or Sinorice Moss. We’re talking about a #5 WR with KR/PR possibilities. I don’t think he’s any worse than the other two.
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!
I'd rather keep Chad Hall. His numbers aren't great and honestly Desean will return Punts and our KR will probably
be our 3rd RB.
For some reason I get the idea Chad Hall will be better this season.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
JLH
is a good KR!
Joe Banner is Evil Banners father. Kinda like Luke and Darth Vader.
Juan Castillo switching from the offensive line coach to Defensive coordinator is soooo dumb it might just work.
by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 7, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Desean Jackson
I just got the ESPN text saying Jackson is ending his holdout and reporting to camp on MONDAY!!!!!
Those fines will be forgiven. He’s reporting to camp on the last day possible to still get his league year otherwise he’s a RFA instead of a FA next year. So we’re getting excited over nothing.. this was the worst case scenario. I’ll get excited when he has a new contract.
yes
Thats what i was saying he is only coming much like osi because he has to he will show up with a high ankle sprain probably.
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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 6, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
trade hanson
With so much talent in the,secondary i think this would be the best move. Also alot of teams need cb help and there is some trade value in hanson.
I think you’ll see Nate Clemens get signed by someone before Hanson is traded
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he already did.
so you’re right.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
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How is parker a lock? I know his 3 million contract says so but cutting him only eats up 800,000 (according to PEcap.com)
It would help us cap wise as well. I think Te’o is a lock along with Schmitt. Also why is Harbor a lock?
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Why is clay harbor a lock? For the life of me I don’t see anything significant to keep him around…I don’t think he’s worth a roster spot to keep 3 TEs if Donald lee is ahead of him on the depth chart
My projected roster
QB: Vick / Young / Kafka
RB: McCoy / Brown / Lewis
FB: Schmitt
WR: Jackson / Maclin / Avant / Cooper
TE: Celek / Lee / Harbor
LT: Peters / Howard
LG: Herremans / Mathis
C: Jackson / Kelce
RG: Watkins / McGlynn
RT: Harris / Dunlap
LE: Babin / Te’o
DT: Laws / Patterson / Hargrove
NT: Jenkins / Dixon
RE: Cole / Tapp
SLB: Chaney / Jordan
MLB: Matthews
WLB: Fokou / Clayton / Rolle
CB: Asomugha / Samuel / Rodgers-Cromartie / Hanson / Lindley / Marsh
S: Jarrett / Page
S: Allen / Coleman
K: Henery
P: Henry
LS: Dorenbos
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"Or if the rest of the defense if even decent then
our two Rookie safety’s don’t have to go all Ed Reed-Palamolu-Dawkins-super sayan badass mode to help us win." - W_E
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Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Everyone keeps bringing up DeAndre Brown
Huge WR. Enormous, really. Looks like TE, but runs like one too. A lot of people are saying he’s tearing up camp? I haven’t seen it, and have been watching the WRs pretty closely. I’m curious who is saying he’s tearing it up. Does anyone have a link?
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by JimmyK on Aug 6, 2011 7:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
didnt he run a 4.4 at the combine?
maybe he doesnt look so fast because hes got those long legs.
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No, he ran a 4.6
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Everybody is just in love with his size and "speed".
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Well we have Cooper who's 6'2 has like a 38in vert, runs a 4.4 and is the master of jump balls.
I’d go with Cooper over DeAndre Brown. DB is practice squad material.
And no 4.6 is slow for a WR when everybody keeps saying he’s got 4.4 speed. If he was that big and ran a 4.4 he would’ve been drafted in the first round injury or not.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I like him because I’ve had my eye on him since the pre-draft shenanigans.
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Can someone Explain to me why clay harbor is a lock?
Is it because he wagon the team last year? So was Chad hall and I don’t see anyone saying that he is a lock….just saying
I have read the morning/afternoon session reviews, and have read that clay has maybe mad 1 or 2 plays. Now I know that’s not all the plays. I read more bout Corndog and Donald lee then I do clay. Anyone have some insight on why clay is a lock please
Does anyone know...who is being looked at as the first team, ST
Cause I think they run a really good chance of making the team
Where does..
..AQ Shipley stand? Gotta worry about my PSU bull…
by ChillBillinChina on Aug 6, 2011 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
Jordan Norwood isn’t on the roster. Shipley was right on the edge of my bubble – He’s right there too.
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by JimmyK on Aug 7, 2011 5:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
OT:
Came across this pic of ronnie brown, gearing up to throw the ball downfield. I wonder if they’re working on some trick plays and have him throw. I recall Miami doing that.
by flyeaglesfly1020 on Aug 7, 2011 12:33 AM EDT reply actions
Dont like that pic at all.
Change the number Ronnie!
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"Or if the rest of the defense if even decent then
our two Rookie safety’s don’t have to go all Ed Reed-Palamolu-Dawkins-super sayan badass mode to help us win." - W_E
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.
Yea it's still really confusing
i heard he was going to change it
by flyeaglesfly1020 on Aug 7, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
36 and 20 were the only numbers available at the time
I think he has already changed it to 23
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/roster.html
he’s 23. DRC is 45
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by sports00fan00 on Aug 7, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
why?
Westbrook WAS on the team. He wasn’t so great that they should retire his number.
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Juan Castillo switching from the offensive line coach to Defensive coordinator is soooo dumb it might just work.
by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 7, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he was
Formerly number5
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RIP JJ
by HawaiianGreen on Aug 7, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
He played WC QB in Miami.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Enjoy Roster Guessing
There are always injuries. Not sure who the returners are.
QB: Vick / Young / Kafka
RB: McCoy / Brown / Lewis
FB: Schmitt
WR: Jackson / Maclin / Avant / Cooper / Hall (or Moss/Higgins)
TE: Celek / Harbor / Lee
LT: Peters / Howard
LG: Herremans / Vandervelde
C: Jackson / McGlynn
RG: Watkins
RT: Harris / Justice
LE: Babin / Parker / Te’o
DT: Jenkins / Laws
NT: Dixon / Patterson (or Hargrove/Landri)
RE: Cole / Tapp
SLB: Chaney / Jeanty
MLB: Matthews
WLB: Fokou / Clayton / Jordan
CB: Asomugha / Samuel / Rodgers-Cromartie / Hanson / Lindley / Marsh
S: Jarrett / Page (or Anderson)
S: Allen / Coleman
K: Henery
P: Henry
LS: Dorenbos
Practice Squad
RB: Cooper (or TE: Webb)
FB: Havili
WR: Jones (small WR)
WR: Brown (possession WR)
OL: Kelce (Vandervelde)
DT: Thornton
LB: Rolle
DB: Wall? (or DL: Hunt)
ST: Henery, Henry, Dorenbos
PUP: Graham
Notes:
Agree with others that Parker and Hanson could be traded for Hunt and Rolle.
I think Jamal Jackson could be traded. I do not think he fits Mudd’s style (certainly not ‘quick footed’). High risk but, I could see Kelce the starter and maybe Shipley the backup, with McGlynn kept around if the playcalling is too complicated.
Vandervelde was higher pick than Kelce so he gets roster nod. I do not see Mathis as any better. Dunlap also does not fit. Howard/Tupou might not either.
Short on RB so Hall gets 5th WR spot since he can return and play RB – versatility wins over talent. Could see RB make it over my 3rd TE.
Inactive: (Kafka active now), Lewis, Lee, Howard,, Vanderwelde, TeO-Neshim, Lindley, Marsh since those guys will not be key special teamers.
Fake IR Possible: Marsh, Lloyd, Kelce, Vandervelde, Rolle, Hughes
I think Kelce makes it...
…he’s allegedly been killing it in camp so far. Also, I think they keep Evan Mathis.
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!
Mathis is as good a backup as you can get. Fuck Vanderwelde's draft positon.
We need guys who can ball.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
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