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NFL Fantasy Snake Draft Manifesto


Obligatory Note: I am a writer.  Believe it or not, I get paid to write things.  Things many people think about writing, but don't actually write.  Anyway, I decided I'd throw together a brief, but thorough (enough) fantasy guide for all you youngbloods getting into fantasy for the first time, or for those of you who still punch walls after your draft because you missed 54 opportunities to make your team better (that's estimated, of course).  I know it's late in the fantasy football-drafting season (and that'll be my first bit of advice - don't do any fantasy drafts before the last set of preseason games), but the most important advice can still be heeded.

Read on!  If you wish.  Or don't.  That's okay too.


Star-divide

Pre-draft: Know what players you like.  Not what players I like - after you read through this, it's obvious who I like [not for the BGN crowd - other than Akers and Mike Wallace!  Mike Wallace is my certified home-slice this season] - but what players you like.  And if you're throwing down $20 for fantasy football publications because you barely know what a football looks like, Christ I hope you're not embarrassing yourself in any money leagues.



General drafting rules: Fill your starting offensive positions first (the lone exception here is tight end - typically, value is found on tight ends late, but if you get Gates, that's an advantage for the entire year at a position).  Wait until the mid-rounds to get a defense (and even that might be too early, but if it's for your favorite team, it's excusable - make sure it's a defense on a good team if you're picking later, they're almost always bound to do well fantasy-wise).  Ignore kicker until the last possible round.  Don't draft Cowboys, except for maybe Felix Jones (they're perennially overrated).  Know the scoring in your league (my leagues are almost always PPR, so my recommended picks have that scoring in mind).  Value past performance over 'potential'.  Really value injury-free over injury-prone.  Don't label Michael Vick or Matthew Stafford as injury-prone.  Don't start pulling up the ol' porn after round 10; draft for the whole 16 rounds.  Value byes, but don't overvalue byes (you can always draft value with the intent to trade - but don't do that too much, because you might get stonewalled.  And then you're fucked!  But seriously, don't value byes at all.  I just wanted to see if you would keep reading!  Yup, I'm that guy).  Kick some ass. Take some names.  Win.  Your.  League.


First round strategy: top four picks, take a top four back.  Duh.  Peterson-Rice-Foster-Charles, taking schedules, schemes, hamstrings, and past success into account.


Picks 5-8: Andre Johnson is by far the best option here.  LeSean McCoy and Chris Johnson (if you like the idea of playing russian roulette, but aren't totally committed to getting your head blown off as a potential consequence, this is the guy for you!) are nice back-up plans.


Picks 9-12: Here's where we get iffy: LeSean McCoy has to be the priority.  If he's on the board, he's gotta get taken - but if he isn't, we switch positional focus.  Calvin Johnson/Roddy White/Larry Fitzgerald at wide receiver are the next three we look at, and...yes.  It's Michael Vick time, baby!  Especially if he falls to the wrap-around.  Locking up Vick and one of the three-four elite wide receivers will go a long, long way towards determining the league.  And that opportunity isn't given very often in the early stages of drafts.


Round 2: Almost always wide receiver.  I don't care what was taken in the first round, unless a big-time back falls here (McFadden?), it almost has to be a wide-out.  Later in the round, I could see going S. Jackson or Hillis, but that's only if Andre is on the team - remember, elite seasonal running backs find themselves on the waiver wire by week 5 as often as bridesmaids find themselves spreading their legs to some random limp-dick on their best friend's wedding day out of sheer desperation.  That's to say, it happens often - so it's really not the best plan to blow your two highest-quality loads on a commodity that can be found when dumpster diving. (hooray over-extended sexual innuendos two sentences in a row!)  End-round wrap-around, we're looking directly at Mike Wallace or an inexplicable drop.  I love you, Mike Wallace.


Round 3: Value the best player to the worst player, in that order (obviously based off who you drafted - if you got Vick, don't get f*cking Brady).  The 'order' based on who is typically available goes something like this: [NOTE: yup, I'm a tease - but I want to crush my BGN leagues, and revealing my favorite players is an advantage even I can't give.  Sorry!].  If it gets further down from there, probably you're fucked.  Sometimes, people like to get skill positions early because good QB's are known to be available late.  Others like to get good QB's early because they like the consistency week-in, week-out of an elite QB.  This is something you'll have to decide for yourself.  And if you do determine which way you'll lean all by your lonesome, congratulations!  You have a mind of your own!


Round 4: Biggest need at the best value, just like round 3.  Continue that until round 8.


First eight rounds general summary: 1(RB1), 2(WR1), 3(QB1), 4(WR2), 5(TE), 6(RB2), 7(WR3), 8(DEF) - unless a high-value player shows up where he shouldn't be and you're already overdrafted at that slot, this is a good model to try and follow*.  No shame in getting Chargers or Patriots DEF in round 14-ish for pennies on the dollar.  One last note/caveat - *the model is almost never followed exactly.  If Andre falls to 10, you nab Andre - and if Calvin falls to 15 on the other side, you nab Calvin.  As long as you're focusing on the best players to fill the open offensive slots for the first 6 rounds (or extended to 7 if you get Antonio Gates in a comfortable slot without over-reaching), you're doing it right.


Last eight rounds: this is where we shake our money-maker.  IGNORE KICKER UNTIL THE LAST ROUND.  NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT KICKERS. (brief sidebar: why the hell do we have kickers as a streamlined fantasy mainstay, but we haven't yet intergrated defensive players into the mix?  Doesn't that seem...wrong?)  Also, get Akers in the last round, 'cause he'll fall to there!  Yaaaaay Akers!


Stock RB's and WR's like crazy.  Get [someone and someone else] at the second-to-last round or something as your [obligatory team captain who is actually terrible at the sport he plays so he's always riding the pine but he's a really great leader!].  Great options include: [players players more players] and onward and so forth.  This is typically where the individual scouts the players he or she feels most comfortable with and goes with them - the aforementioned players happen to be ones I like for their value this year.  You may feel differently.


That's why I'll win, and you won't!


In all seriousness, have fun and enjoy.  Smack-talk is part of the experience, so be liberal with it.  And watch that waiver wire - leagues are won on the wire.

Cheers.

 

PS: Auction drafts are better, in my humblest of opinions.  I've got a strategy for that, too - but sharing any part of that with the general populace will mess me up entirely with the other BGN league I'm in.  If you're doing an auction draft, aren't someone I'm facing in the BGN auction draft league, and have no idea what the hell is going on, e-mail me at cwel87@yahoo.com and I'll send you my general notes.

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What do you my latest team?

Just drafted this today:
QB- Drew Brees, Josh Freeman
RB- Lesean McCoy, Steven Jackson, LaDamian Tomilson
WR- Mario Manningham, Jeremy Maclin, Marques Colston, Micheal Crabtree, Lance Moore
TE- Todd Heap
K- Akers
Def- NYG, Det, SD

by nyeaglesfan624 on Aug 31, 2011 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

pretty good

Although imo freeman might regress just a lil this year…

by sandiegoeaglesfan on Sep 1, 2011 12:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

its was him or Kolb and I thought he would be better

The rest of the league let steven jackson fall to the 4th round

by nyeaglesfan624 on Sep 1, 2011 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow

i want steven jackson again this year .. i love him .. i took him round one last year .. i was thinking maybe he will fall to second or third this year .. ppl are idiots and take arian foster and other shitty one year wonder bums .. i wouldnt take foster ever .. i would take gates if i had to over that bum

by JIBTA on Sep 1, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's my most recent team

QB-Phillip Rivers,Matt Stafford
RB- Peyton Hillis, Legarrette Blount, Beanie Wells
WR- Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald, Marques Colston, Brandon Marshall, Plaxico Burress, Steve Smith (CAR)
TE- Jimmy Graham, Greg Olsen
D/ST-Bears. Lions
K-Alex Henery

"I love my Ducks (wait 'til you see my O)"

by bkeagle718 on Sep 1, 2011 1:28 AM EDT reply actions  

How many teams in your league?

I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.

by Snax on Sep 1, 2011 9:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

8 man league between friends

"I love my Ducks (wait 'til you see my O)"

by bkeagle718 on Sep 2, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good pick with Phillip

I think he will be the number 1 QB this year, White and Fitzgerald? Nice. Colston or Marshall as a 3 is just cake as if Marshall gets back to form, ridunkulous shit will happen. Hillis and Blount are decent backs. Though watch hillis’ playing time. Keep an eye on hardesty just in case he gets banged up. Olsen could be a steal. excellent team overall.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT

by Talon Talent on Sep 1, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice post. Curious who you write for?

by 21510akland on Sep 1, 2011 1:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

+1

Formerly number5
"If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent." - #5
RIP JJ

by HawaiianGreen on Sep 1, 2011 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN Insider

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 1, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in one of the BGN leauges

and either the computer or someone picked me a shit team. The only good parts are RB: Arian Foster and MJD, TE: Jermichael Finley. They fricking picked me Sheli Manning! Luckly Colt McCoy was a FA so I snapped him up

Formerly number5
"If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent." - #5
RIP JJ

by HawaiianGreen on Sep 1, 2011 1:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Arian Foster

Hes got a hamstring problem, and those can linger on for some time, I might take the opportunity to sell high on him.

Alex Bunbury = good. Teal Bunbury = a colour

by Lesean25 on Sep 1, 2011 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I could do that

But I don’t have good depth. I have his back-up tho. Should I still trade him??

Formerly number5
"If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent." - #5
RIP JJ

by HawaiianGreen on Sep 1, 2011 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone will likely give you cents on the dollar for him at this point

Your best bet is probably to stand pat and just go with the flow. For now. If the depth becomes a real issue as the season wears on, try to find viable trade partners, and make sure you sit on that waiver wire.

by cwel87 on Sep 1, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

dude regardless

whether Eli sucks, as a fantasy QB he is good to go. 4000 yards, high 20 TD’s. Thats a solid QB for fantasy.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT

by Talon Talent on Sep 1, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You in W_E's league?

I trade him to you.

Formerly number5
"If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent." - #5
RIP JJ

by HawaiianGreen on Sep 1, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not

and depending on the offer and other QB’s I’d probably take it

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT

by Talon Talent on Sep 1, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defense in the 8th round is waaay too early. Almost all fantasy football analysts agree that you shouldn’t be drafting a defense until the last 2 rounds.

by JLDawk on Sep 1, 2011 8:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

It makes sense to me. A good defense will get you anywhere from 12-30 points consistently. That’s a lot more than can be said for a lot of WRs that go in round 4. For example, last year the top 5 defenses each put up at least 150 points, meaning that these defenses would all be ranked in the top 70 overall picks. If you’re doing a 12 team league you should start drafting defenses as early as the fourth round. The top 5 defenses last year scored more points than Fitz, Manningham, Colston, Brandon Jacobs, Danny Woodhead, Santonio Holmes, etc. The top defense scored more than Mike Wallace, Calvin Johnson, Nicks, Andre Johnson, Wayne, Benson, Tomlinson, DeSean, Maclin, Mike Williams, Frank Gore… People seriously underrate defense.

Formerly DeSean10
36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green

by AnthroEagle on Sep 1, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

no

becuz the gap between the good d and average d is smaller than the gap between roddy white and mark clayton

by JIBTA on Sep 1, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

JIBTA is actually correct in this

The difference between what you would get from, say, the Ravens D and the Chargers D (often at least 6 rounds difference) isn’t nearly enough to legitimize taking the defense that early.

The lone caveat to this is if you’re in an E$PN league with no one who has a clue. Because then you’ll be able to get players like Shonn Greene in the 5th round, Chat Johnson in the 8th round, and so on.

E$PN’s rankings are totally fucked.

by cwel87 on Sep 1, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like to sound like I'm bragging

But every year since 2006 I’ve put together a couple of teams in different leagues and focus on one of them. The one I focus on has been in the top 3 in scoring every single year except 2006 — I definitely know what I’m talking about. Defenses are more consistently successful than single players; you can’t have a defense get injured for the whole year. Especially in leagues where 2 defenses start, it is a huge advantage to have at least one stellar D. Unless there is a top 75 QB, RB, or WR on the board, you go defense. There’s no way in hell that I take Danny Woodhead, Jacobs, or Holmes when the Eagles or Jets defense is still on the board.

Formerly DeSean10
36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green

by AnthroEagle on Sep 1, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i neveer asked….whyd you change your screen name?

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 1, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cuz can

:)

Formerly number5
"If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent." - #5
RIP JJ

by HawaiianGreen on Sep 1, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, DeSean is just too generic here… Plus I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t concerned about the contract situation. And I like change. I make random life decisions just because I get bored. haha

Formerly DeSean10
36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green

by AnthroEagle on Sep 1, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s our mid-life crisis! (at 17 lol)

Formerly number5
"If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent." - #5
RIP JJ

by HawaiianGreen on Sep 1, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it's your favorite team, why the hell not!

Fantasy’s about enjoying who you root for.

But otherwise, yes, I agree.

by cwel87 on Sep 1, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was always under the impression fantasy was about taking your friends money and making them feel like absolute shit when you beat them…guess we all have our own reasoning…

"I was the first option on the play and the quarterback made a great throw. I landed on my shoulder and neck and blacked out for a little while, but I'm fine now." - Djacc

by Eagles02 on Sep 1, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I had the 7th pick in a snaking draft.

I ended up picking Andre Johnson. Next round I probably should have picked up a running back but instead got Drew Brees.

my starters now are
QB Drew Brees
RB Deangelo Williams, K. Moreno
WR. A. Johnson, Stevie Johnson, Maclin
TE. went away for a minute and yahoo drafted someone i never heard of (I think from TEN)
DEF: Patriots
K. same as TE

Its gonna be a tough year but i think i have enougj depth with my bench to take advatage of matchups

I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.

by Snax on Sep 1, 2011 9:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Check the waiver wire for TE's

Lance Kendrick, Aaron Hernandez, Marcedes Lewis, Brandon Pettigrew.

by cwel87 on Sep 1, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yikes, none of those are available. The best person is Ben Watson and Tony Moeaki

Well for my backups I have:
QB: Josh Freeman
RB: Ryan Matthews, Tomlinson
WR: AJ Green, (Devin Hester and Jacoby Ford) I got these two because punt return have some added significance in the league. I’ll probably drop one and add another defense.
TE: Cooley

I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.

by Snax on Sep 1, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it is Jared Cook from Ten, you are good.

Moeaki is an interesting prospect and Cooley can start for you just about every week. Keep an eye on Anthony Fasano too. if henne gets his act together even a little, him and Marshall will benefit. As far as defense goes. I wouldn’t carry 2. For the bye week you can just play a match up from the def left.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT

by Talon Talent on Sep 1, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

gates

gates goes in the third round and he belongs there .. and i would rather wait on a qb .. u can get good ones late .. the last three years i have gotten Warner as a FA.. Favre in round 15 .. and vick as a FA … all before the season started .. but with good intuition u can steal a top 5 qb late .. u cant get a gates late .. hes a huge advantage

by JIBTA on Sep 1, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with that

Gates is an incredibly undervalued asset in most leagues. His positional dominance is typically more than worth the third round, considering the difference between a round-3 RB and a potential waiver-wire RB is often non-existent.

by cwel87 on Sep 1, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got Gates in the early 4th round (11th pick in a PPR snake) and ended up getting Big Ben in the 6th….I know people are back and forth on him, but Freeman didn’t go until the late 8th/early 9th and I think that’s a damn steal…

"I was the first option on the play and the quarterback made a great throw. I landed on my shoulder and neck and blacked out for a little while, but I'm fine now." - Djacc

by Eagles02 on Sep 1, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

4th Pick, (12 person League):

QB: Philip Rivers, Jay Cutler
RB: Jamaal Charles, Shonn Greene, Ben Tate, James Starks, Javon Ringers
WR: Mike Wallace, Pierre Garcon, Mike Thomas, AJ Green, Josh Cribbs, Nate Burleson
TE: Antonio Gates
Def: Buccaneers
K: Henery

top 5 picks in order: Charles, Rivers, Gates, Wallace, Ryan Williams (fml – already dropped)

by Manoovi on Sep 1, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

switch Gates and Wallace

I got Wallace 3rd round, Gates in 4th round.

by Manoovi on Sep 1, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

That fifth-rounder is why you wait until the week before kickoff on drafts!

But that’s a pretty solid squad, all things considered. Timely WR/RB waiver wire pickups will bolster your potential a bunch.

by cwel87 on Sep 1, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously... he got hurt the day AFTER we drafted..

But here’s hoping Ben Tate and James Starks can more than make up for it.

my WRs are a little poopy after Mike Wallace though.. that’s my main concern

by Manoovi on Sep 1, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

4th pick, 12-team league

QB: Josh Freeman, McNabb
RB: Ray Rice, Knowshon Moreno, Mike Tolbert, C.J. Spiller, Montario Hardesty
WR: Mike Wallace, DeSean Jackson, Steve Smith, Jerome Simpson, Eric Decker
TE: Jimmy Graham, Jared Cook
D: Lions
K: None lol (Dropped Henery)
What y’all think?!

by ILL Eagle on Sep 1, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Not bad…look for RBs in FA early though, as your depth is a little short…WRs are good, but big-play/homerun hitters…I took DeSean too but he can be feast or famine (30 pts one game, 4 the next)….I like Jimmy Graham this year, Brees spreads it around a lot and he’ll get goal line looks…I like you’re pick in Freeman though, I’m big on him this year

"I was the first option on the play and the quarterback made a great throw. I landed on my shoulder and neck and blacked out for a little while, but I'm fine now." - Djacc

by Eagles02 on Sep 1, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steve Smith could be a real help late in the season

I thought about picking him up. I like Hardesty too. I was going to go after him but being in a league with people from Cleveland he didnt last past the 6th round…

by Manoovi on Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

11th pick, 12-team PPR league...please provide feedback guys!!

QB – Big Ben – Matt Cassell
RB – Mendenhall – Beanie Wells – Justin Forsett – Cadillac Williams
WR – Roddy White – DeSean – Mike Thomas – AJ Green – Deion Branch
TE – Antonio Gates
D: Steelers
K: Kaeding

"I was the first option on the play and the quarterback made a great throw. I landed on my shoulder and neck and blacked out for a little while, but I'm fine now." - Djacc

by Eagles02 on Sep 1, 2011 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

First 5 in order

Roddy – Mendy – DeSean – Gates – Ben

"I was the first option on the play and the quarterback made a great throw. I landed on my shoulder and neck and blacked out for a little while, but I'm fine now." - Djacc

by Eagles02 on Sep 1, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like DeSean in fantasy

he’s boom or bust…

not that I wouldn’t have him on my team, he just usually goes WAY before I would draft him. I.E. you got him in the 3rd, I wouldn’t pick DeSean in the 3rd, I’d wait until the 5th (which is why I never get him)

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Sep 5, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

secret steelers fan??

ha jk. I got Gates in the 4th as well. made me very happy :)

by Manoovi on Sep 1, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK guys I need some assistance…
I have never done a a draft. Last year was my first year playing, and it was an auto-draft.
This year, i am in a new neighborhood, and the neighbors have invited me into their league. Its a snake draft….
And I, somehow, won the lottery and have the #1 overall pick….
My biggest concerns are my first 3 picks. i have #1, # 24 and #25.
I want Vick, in a bad way, but i dont see him lasting to 24. But i dont think i can justify taking him at #1. What do i do?

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 1, 2011 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Chris Johnson Just signed a new deal with the Titans. No way I would take any quaterback. I’d draft one of the elite running backs and a couple of draft picks to move up and get Vick hope that you live in neighborhood of casual racists that will avoid Vick and let him drop to you.

I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.

by Snax on Sep 1, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

the word “trade” was supposed to be in that struck out phrase…

I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.

by Snax on Sep 1, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say unlikely that he falls to me. My team name is Vicktorious. So they know he’s on my radar.

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 1, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He on everyone's radar, really.

I know a lot people who and being the first QB drafted. He went in the first pick of the 2nd round in my league.

Drafting Vick 1st isn’t all that bad of a choice. I just wouldn’t suggest it with top tier running backs and WR’s on the board. And it would seem mighty homerish for a team named Vicktorious to draft Vick first overall.

I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.

by Snax on Sep 1, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know….But theres no way he’s there at 24 or 25. And i am trying to justify it to myself by saying that he runs a lot, so there will be points for running that other QB’s just wont have. He had 30 TD’s in 12 games last yr between running and passing. Thats huge….

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 1, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but I really think that number is going to go down some now that teams and going to have schemes on hand. I also that I think Reid will start running the ball a little more with Mccoy and Brown so teams can’t take advantage of our rookie running backs and pressure Vick the whole game.

I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.

by Snax on Sep 1, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reid to run more? Am i really taking advice from you? LOL. Just playin…..

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 1, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

try to trade down

Not sure of the number of rounds but say it is a standard league. Trade down to the 5th or 6th spot, If the draft goes Foster, Peterson, Johnson and Charles, at the 5th spot taking Vick would be reasonable. So you might not be able to get top value for that pick but you should still be able to get some value. So say you trade your 1st and your 6th for there 1st and 4th. However if you want him that bad, I’d say hold your pick and grab him. With that 25th then, your going to have to grab a RB though unless a top WR somehow slips through the crack. Forte might be around then. Whatever position you lack on that is the position you want to get many more options for as one of them will probably have a good year. Hightower in Washington is a guy to watch for, or Helu (check his progress) Tate as Foster might be injured for a little, or could have a recurring injury if rushed back to soon, Delone Carter if Addai continues sucking it up, Hardesty because Hillis might split more acrries with him, Stevan Ridley if Green-Ellis sucks it up this year or belichik does his normal RB carousel. Theres some options so maybe just grabbing Vick right away would work better for you.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT

by Talon Talent on Sep 1, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol well maybe it’s just wishful thinking then.

I still say go with the elite running back though.

I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.

by Snax on Sep 1, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can get either a elite quarterback or running back (these score you lots of points)

AP, CJ2K, Arian Foster, etc are those. In the elite QB category is Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers, or Mike Vick. Whatever you don, don’t draft a WR in the first round. Always pick up RB and QB as first combo (doesn’t matter which order). What I usually do is go RB, QB, RB as my first three picks, because Two elite RB’s is better than 1 elite RB and Megatron or Andre Johnson.

Formerly number5
"If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent." - #5
RIP JJ

by HawaiianGreen on Sep 1, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got a couple teams

QB: Ben Rothliesberger, Eli manning
RB: Adrian Peterson, Steven Jackson, Jonathan Stewart, Tim Hightower
WR: Hakeem Nicks, Santanio Holmes, Jeremy Maclin, Michael Crabtree, Johnny Knox
TE: Jason Witten, Marcedes Lewis,
K: Stephen Gostowski
Def: NE

Team 2-
QB: Matt Ryan, Josh Freeman
RB: Adrain Peterson, Steven jackson, Jonathan Stewart
WR: Reggie Wayne, Santanio Holmes, Jeremy Maclin, Michael Crabtree, Johnny Knox
TE: Jason Witten, Marcedes Lewis
K: Sebastain Janikoski
Def: NE, MIN (which I need to get rid of)

both were autodrafted, so that is some good consistency there

Team 3- The big league, PPR, IDP
QB: Philip Rivers, Josh Freeman
RB: Steven Jackson, Matt Forte, Knowshon Moreno, BenJarvus Green-Ellis
WR: Roddy White, Steveie Johnson, Davone Bess, Malcolm Floyd, Michael Crabtree, Steve Breaston
TE: Owen Daniels
K: Dan Carpenter
LB: Jerod Mayo, Paul Poslunszy, James Harrison, Jonathan Vilma, DeAndre Levy
DL: Trent Cole, John Abraham, Kyle Williams
DB: Kerry Rhodes, Nick Collins, LaRon Landry

feeling good this year. feeling good

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT

by Talon Talent on Sep 1, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Your Teams are Amazing!!!!!!!!

You might be the best fantasy drafter I’ve ever seen.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT

by Talon Talent on Sep 1, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many teams are in your ppr league? 12?

I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.

by Snax on Sep 1, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah 10 of us

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT

by Talon Talent on Sep 1, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be weird for TT not to like TT’s draft….

Formerly number5
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RIP JJ

by HawaiianGreen on Sep 1, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

10 Team Auction

LeSean McCoy, Phi RB $58, Rashard Mendenhall, Pit RB $45, Philip Rivers, SD QB $33, Calvin Johnson, Det WR $31, Vincent Jackson, SD WR $31, Alex Henery, Phi K $1, Matt Schaub, Hou QB $14, Jimmy Graham, NO TE $1, Jets D/ST $1, Matthew Stafford, Det QB $4, Shonn Greene, NYJ RB $2, Davone Bess, Mia WR $1, Plaxico Burress, NYJ WR $1, Daniel Thomas, Mia RB $1, Michael Bush, Oak RB $1

by phillies0100 on Sep 5, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

wow Thomas for a $1?

thats great value. I probably wouldn’t had bid on Schaub and saved that 14 dollars to get a better 3rd WR, especially with the acquistion of Stafford later on. Shonn Greene for 2 dollars is another great buy, and Plaxico might be a good buy depending on his abilty to get back to form. Nice line up

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT

by Talon Talent on Sep 5, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Draft was yesterday.

Vick, Fitzpatrick

Stephen Jackson, Deangelo Williams, Fred Jackson

Boldin, Plax, Steve Smith(Eagles), Mike Thomas, Lance Moore

Gates, Keller

Henery, Ravens D

Eagles... :)

by Kevin M. on Sep 5, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

How many teams?

Not really a fan of the majority of your team to be honest

Vick is good and if Fitzpatrick was grabbed late enough he is a decenty back up
Jackson is a nice pick as I expect him to have a pretty good year, DeAngelo is eh IMO. As a number 2 I woulda thought you could do better, Fred is ok, should get you 900 to 1000 with 5 to 7 TD’s.
Your WR are weak. Boldin has pretty much been used up, Plax is a huge risk as well as the second receiving option in a run heavy offense, Smith probably won’t make a meaningful contribution until week 6, Moore and Thomas are both nice late WR’s with some upside.
Gates is always a good pick up, even when he is injured. keller will be a nice week fill in.
Ravens D is solid.
Now of course if you are in like a 16 team league these ratings get adjusted but if this is your team in a standard 12 team league I have to rate it 5/10

personal opinions of course

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT

by Talon Talent on Sep 5, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a 16 team league.

Boldin i figured since he had such a down year last year, would have a nice bounce back. Plax i thought would be a sleeper, IMO.

I have a trade in the works. Tell me what you think. I give up Boldin-Deangelo Williams for Fitzgerald-Hightower or Jahvid Best

Eagles... :)

by Kevin M. on Sep 5, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

feedback?

Draft was Saturday, standard snake draft, I had the 7th pick in the first rd.

Michael Vick / Kevin Kolb
Shonn Green / Beanie Wells / Ryan Grant / Mark Ingram / Mike Tolbert
Roddy White / Greg Jennings / Marques Colston / Mike Simms-Walker / Michael Crabtree
Marcedes Lewis
Neil Rackers
Ravens / Falcons (D)

picked ’em in this order – Vick, White, Jennings, Green, Wells, Colston, Grant, Ingram, Simms-Walker, Ravens, Tolbert, Lewis, Kolb, Crabtree, Rackers, Falcons

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by 21510akland on Sep 5, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Vicks good and I think kolb will be a real good back up
Greene is on too shaky of ground for me to commit to him. I know he is supposed to get more reps this year, but he was supposed to last year too. beanie wells sucks and if he reaches 800 yds rushing I’ll be suprised. Grant isn’t even guaranteed to be the starter on his team, Ingram could be good value, Tolbert’s value most likely revolves around Mathews production.
Nice receving corp. I think Roddy White will be the top WR this year, jennings as a 2 is great, and Colston as 3 is money. Sims-Walker has some good upside and Crabtree could suprise as well.
Marcedes isn’t a bad TE
Ravens D is good, not a fan of ATL’s D. if Det is available or TB I’d trade them out

8/10

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT

by Talon Talent on Sep 5, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

kinda had to jump on vick cause I knew the guy behind me would if i didn’t. it was him or white since all the top RBs and AJ were already gone. after that white and jennings were still there so i took them over the RBs that were available… who i basically got later on anyway. definitely feels WR heavy, but we have a flex spot so that’s not that bad of a problem. might just swap out atl for another RB/WR in a week or two if one bubbles up.

from philly to the bay / that's where i'm from and where i stay / born in the 2-1-fifth / live in five ten today

by 21510akland on Sep 5, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can i get some opinions?

How’d i do? 12 team snake draft, standard scoring. Started with 10th pick

QB: Rivers, Colt McCoy
RB: McCoy, Felix Jones, Daniel Thomas, Tolbert
WR: Maclin, Welker, Julio Jones, Steve Smith (Car),
TE: Vernon Davis, Lance Kendricks,
K: Henery
DST: Rams (will most likely drop before week 1)

by TreKronor488 on Sep 6, 2011 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

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