Eagles Bounce Back With 24 - 14 Win Over Browns
by JasonB on Aug 25, 2011 10:32 PM EDT
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Some thoughts on individual performances after the jump.
Tough to evaluate Vick tonight
We wanted to see a big bounceback game from Michael Vick tonight, but I can't say as though we did. However, it's hard to say he every really had a chance. He had absolutely no time to throw and was knocked down six times in the first half... even worse, all six of those hits were hard. Nearly all of his productive passes were dumpoffs to LeSean McCoy, but it's worth noting that he wasn't helped by some drops on the part of Jason Avant and DeSean Jackson.
A scary night from the rookie lineman
There was panic in the game thread and rightly so with the play of rookies Jason Kelce and Danny Watkins early on in this game. Michael Vick was getting pounded and when he wasn't getting hit he was either running or being hurried. I believe the broadcast counted nine hurries on him in the first half. Both Kelce and Watkins seemed to have communication and concentration problems that unfortunately Vick paid for. They did improve as the half wore on though, which is positive. It also probably helped that they started to keep Brent Celek in as a blocker more often in the second quarter.
There's no doubt it's frustrating to see, but we have to put this in context. These guys have been learning this scheme for four weeks. It's really tough to expect rookies to not be making those kind of mistakes with that short of an offseason. Of course, the conundrum is that you need these kids to learn and giving them playing time is the only way you can do it. Hopefully, they catch up before they get Michael Vick killed.
At least they can run block
If there was one positive from the offensive line tonight it was they run blocked well. Actually, center Jason Kelce, who was the worst of the bunch in pass protection, absolutely mauled a guy and looked very athletic blocking downfield on the Ronnie Brown TD. Brown ended up running 6 times for 48 yards. Dion Lewis ran 9 times for 41 yards and also looked quite good.
Very encouraging night for Clay Casey Matthews
Frankly, Casey Matthews had no where to go but up after his performance last week, but I actually thought he played quite well tonight. He tied tackling machine Kurt Coleman for the team lead in tackles tonight with five and he displayed some nice coverage skills knocking down a screen pass. He was certainly helped by the fact that he wasn't getting smothered by blockers like last week, probably due in part to Mike Patterson's presence, but he also read gaps much better and seemed to be seeing the game clearer. Still a work in progress for sure, but better from him.
Asante Samuel doing what he do
I love Asante's description of the play he got the pick on. "They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
The weird challenge turned penalty flag
The Browns finally scored on a weird play where rookie Jaiquawn Jarrett made a great play to break up a pass in the end zone, but the bounced into the hands of former Eagle Alex Smith for the TD. The problem was that Smith had been out of bounds before coming back in to catch the carom. A receiver would ineligible on that play. Andy Reid wanted a review and threw the challenge flag. However, as we learned, all scoring plays are now subject to booth review and can not be challenged by the coach. So the refs threw a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct flag on Reid for throwing the challenge and said that as a result they could not review the play. Ross Tucker summed the scene up well.
Andy Reid got penalized for challenging a scoring play which is an automatic booth review but he was right on challenge. Can't make this up.
The penalty was assessed on the ensuing kickoff, which was taken from the 50 and went 10 rows up in the stands. Very odd sequence.
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The roughing call on Vick was pretty fair to me. Defenders should know by now that you dont launch and leave your feet when hitting the QB after he have thrown the ball.
I disagree. I thought it was a very clean hit and we got lucky. I think the score looks way better than how we played, at least offensively.
He's slick, he's quick, he's Michael Vick.
75% of the Earth is covered by water, the rest by Nnamdi Asomugha.
by IwantVick on Aug 26, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Kelce and Watkins will get it together
lots of miscommunications out there….as bad as they looked at times….they looked real good at others
Matthews really stepped it up tonight…glad to see that
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this makes me believe its just an experience issue, not at all related to their ability to play. As they get more time playing next to each other, they should only get better.
by RogerPodacter on Aug 26, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
here’s a thought for an individual performance: coleman is a monster out there!!
NFL, I am no longer disappoint.
Ya no doubt man
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by BWestFactor on Aug 25, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Are he and Page the starting safeties week 1?
by ATG. on Aug 25, 2011 11:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They got Kelce some game experience which will come in handy if starter JamJax gets injured.
Oh boy, is this great!
by MayIhave10,000marblesplease? on Aug 25, 2011 10:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Curt Coleman
had his first big stick and also disrupted a pass play well. Since I shit on him I owe it to say when I see him do something good.
Joe Banner is Evil Banners father. Kinda like Luke and Darth Vader.
Juan Castillo switching from the offensive line coach to Defensive coordinator is soooo dumb it might just work.
Our defense will not be a top 10 defense this year.
by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 25, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
also
Vick was under control tonight. Good to see. Liked the throw away. Liked how they went to the run when the line struggled and started throwing off 3 step drops.
Joe Banner is Evil Banners father. Kinda like Luke and Darth Vader.
Juan Castillo switching from the offensive line coach to Defensive coordinator is soooo dumb it might just work.
Our defense will not be a top 10 defense this year.
by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 25, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think I should earn the "fan of the game" award
for surfing BGN mobile while at a LMFAO concert.
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
maybe "sucker of the night"
for paying money for an LMFAO concert
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by David_K on Aug 25, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
No dude...
This was at my college. I went because it was free.
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
since when did LMFAO become not awesome?
"When life hands you lemons, make a profit." - Chet Cashley
by Ralf E Chubbs on Aug 26, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, it’s not like the guy said he was seeing the Biebs and Rebecca Black. Party Rock Anthem is sweet, and I actually really like their less-known stuff too.
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You are into underground LMFAO?
LMFAO!!!!
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Good one. haha
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by AnthroEagle on Aug 26, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m on full agreement. Forget going for free, no one could pay me to go to that crap.
by 92-74-99-96 on Aug 26, 2011 9:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would guess 'laugh my fucking ass off'
It’s apparently a ‘hip’ band name by today’s standards.
And it’s also incredibly fucking stupid.
oh ok I didn’t know that the band name actually stood for that
I agree it’s fucking stupid
The Jruth shall be told.
Damn. I go to sleep, come back and I'm getting buried.
If It’s any consolation (which it I figure it probably isn’t to the “Kids are retarded” mentality), it was just one of the guys, and all he was really doing was DJing.
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
I think he was at Foxwoods the other day; my GFs sister works at a club there where he was performing.
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by AnthroEagle on Aug 26, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
are u 12?
"Shady hits the hole as he breaks one for 80,running over both linebackers and the free safety".
by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 26, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
If this isn’t a good music video then I don’t know what is…
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Aug 26, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahah I know WHY….it was rethorical
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by BWestFactor on Aug 25, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
W_E will be one pissed SOB if both his boys get cut (Lindley & MGlynn)
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by BWestFactor on Aug 25, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He is the main one in loooove with Lindley
I don’t really see it TBQH (Has anyone ever abbreviated ‘to be quite honest’ before?)
But hey, we all have our awkward fanboy favorites. JIBTA loved MJG. I think Clay Harbor is going to be good. Joe_D thinks the world of McNabb.
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by 92-74-99-96 on Aug 26, 2011 4:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
clay harbor had back to back penalties in this game for -15 yards (holding & false start, IIRC).
i was furious at him. but then a few plays later, he grabs the fumble on the muffed punt and totally redeems himself.
by RogerPodacter on Aug 26, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Well...
First we got Cromartie, then Nnamdi happened and then the rest as they is history.
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by Eagladelphia on Aug 25, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
NA, DRC, AS
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by Mikesta on Aug 25, 2011 10:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wait when did he get cut?
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Was just wondering the same thing.
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Aug 25, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
They cut him during the game.
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by Eagladelphia on Aug 25, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He didnt yet, but it looks like hes the odd man out
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by BWestFactor on Aug 25, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
he looks
horrible.
Joe Banner is Evil Banners father. Kinda like Luke and Darth Vader.
Juan Castillo switching from the offensive line coach to Defensive coordinator is soooo dumb it might just work.
Our defense will not be a top 10 defense this year.
by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 25, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
How so?
Havent seen any of the game yet so im not doubting jw
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"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger.
-Glen Cook The Black Company
There was one brutal play, but otherwise he looked pretty good IMO.
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by AnthroEagle on Aug 25, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
last week
I saw him whiff on a tackle(happens every once in awhile)
This week someone ran through his tackle bc of poor approach.
I’m missing the play anthroeagle is talking about but I just woke up and cant recall it right now.
Joe Banner is Evil Banners father. Kinda like Luke and Darth Vader.
Juan Castillo switching from the offensive line coach to Defensive coordinator is soooo dumb it might just work.
Our defense will not be a top 10 defense this year.
by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 26, 2011 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions
honestly, i’ve been thinking the same thing. he’s just not looking all that good against the other team’s backups. i wouldn’t be surprised if he didnt make the team this year.
by RogerPodacter on Aug 26, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not disagreeing that Lindley hasn't impressed
It’s just the lack of evidence he consistently brings to his almost always polarized views on individual players gets tiresome after a while.
Nobody is mentiong...
2 blocked FG’s in 3 games. I think that’s an amazing stat.
"Shady hits the hole as he breaks one for 80,running over both linebackers and the free safety".
by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 26, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
smh
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by alcatraz0109 on Aug 26, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
3 good RBs
would be great to see more balance on offense, if only to save Vick’s body. I think Eagles have a good run blocking line.
I back this line of thinking
Especially if teams are going to play Umbrella D on DeSean, let’s just take 7-10 yards at a time underneath.
I think we’re going to try to get big leads and then pound it with Ronnie & Shady (shit, wasn’t Shady’s uncle named Ronnie?) but it would almost make as much sense to go right to the run and lull them to sleep so big-play DeSean can be unleashed.
The good thing is even if Jacks&Macs are ineffective/out, we can move the ball. Me likey
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One can hope
..but we all know Reid/Mornhinweg forget about running the football for quarters at a time. Would love to see more runs, but if they haven’t in the past then I’m not sure they’ll start now…
by ChillBillinChina on Aug 26, 2011 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Matthews look better?
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"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger.
-Glen Cook The Black Company
Yes! 180 from last game,,,,
On Another note Chaney is a fuckin beast!!!! His pass coverage is awesome too
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by BWestFactor on Aug 25, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Chaney
really impressed me after tonight. He might be a real stand out player this season.
"I don’t know whether I prefer Astroturf to grass. I never smoked Astroturf." - Joe Namath
this guy is a future Pro bowler….mark it down!
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by BWestFactor on Aug 25, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Who was the last LB the eagles had go to the pro bowl? Trotter?
by Fiftyfourd on Aug 25, 2011 11:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Stewart Bradley
bought a ticket.
/unnecessary swipe
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agreed
Joe Banner is Evil Banners father. Kinda like Luke and Darth Vader.
Juan Castillo switching from the offensive line coach to Defensive coordinator is soooo dumb it might just work.
Our defense will not be a top 10 defense this year.
by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 25, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Haven't seen the game yet
Waiting for it to be replaye on NFL network in ten minutes. Followed the football on ESPN mobile. I like what I hear though. How did Matthews do tonight? And how did page do replacing Allen? Can’t wait to read the write-up. No injuries and a blowout by first team is a good night to me! Go Birds!!
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by CarolinaGreen on Aug 25, 2011 10:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It was kind of ugly for the dominating score
the key players left up 24-0, but we had some shakiness.
All in all, given the short offseason and all our personnel and scheme turnover, we have to take it. Be really patient and enjoy what we get, these Eagles won’t look their best until late in the year, which is exactly how we’d prefer it.
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Haven't seen the game yet
Waiting for it to be replaye on NFL network in ten minutes. Followed the football on ESPN mobile. I like what I hear though. How did Matthews do tonight? And how did page do replacing Allen? Can’t wait to read the write-up. No injuries and a blowout by first team is a good night to me! Go Birds!!
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by CarolinaGreen on Aug 25, 2011 10:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Nnamdi still hasn't got throw at yet?
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
Ah
So the best way to beat Nnamdi is to push off and hope the referree slips. Got it.
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
by Snax on Aug 25, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wasn't a TD
Would have been 3-4 yards from the goaline
yeah, and that call was questionable
they were both fucking with each other; non-call in my book
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Aug 26, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate being this guy,
but as a stickler for accuracy…
There’s obviously questions that remain on the right side of the offensive line, but all in all this is a game we can feel pretty good about after the poor showing last night.
Last week?
"I don’t know whether I prefer Astroturf to grass. I never smoked Astroturf." - Joe Namath
*headshake…
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by BWestFactor on Aug 25, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, I know
Not trying to be that guy, but it changes the whole meaning.
"I don’t know whether I prefer Astroturf to grass. I never smoked Astroturf." - Joe Namath
I wouldn't worry too much about the offensive line
This is only the preseason. They’ll be putting in the real starters in week 1. Totally different group.
by theguyotc on Aug 25, 2011 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
No the group they had out there were our starters.
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by Mikesta on Aug 25, 2011 10:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And after their performance they won’t be starting cough kelce cough
by cin7 on Aug 25, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kelce isn’t going to be the starter
Oh boy, is this great!
by MayIhave10,000marblesplease? on Aug 25, 2011 11:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
He was a beast in the run game though
Byahhh!
by begforme4484 on Aug 25, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Kelce is not starting.
They wanted to get him live game time with the starters, just in case Jamaal’s injury history catches up with him. Again.
Different group?
Don’t think so! MAYBE Queen Dunlap!
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the second one is all me.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
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its already a gif
Nnamdi has his continent, Asante has his no fly zone, and Mr. Rodgers has his neighborhood.
by NorthernEagle on Aug 26, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Wet 1/4 of a tee shirt contest......
I loved it…. My girl hated that part….. She just happened to be asking me a question and I was like “huh”???
RUN VICK RUN!!!!!!
by DesertEagle59 on Aug 27, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
That was a true highlight. Bet the cameraman didn’t have enough skin left to blink his eyes.
by 92-74-99-96 on Aug 26, 2011 4:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My cousin was born without eyelids. in an experimental surgery they took the foreskin from the circumcision, and sewed it on as eyelids.
…. he’s ok, just a bit cock-eyed!!
HA – I kill me!
by thePurpleLion on Aug 26, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
oh man
please tell me someone was watching the Vick press conference and saw the last question.. Open the floodgates of media misery.
OOoooohh snortskies ooooooohh!!
someone asked him
“what if you were white?” and he said “what?!” and he repeated the question. Vick said, “I’m outta here” and then room started laughing, and then he got up and left.
OOoooohh snortskies ooooooohh!!
I’m guessing that reporter will no longer be allowed in after games.
Byahhh!
by begforme4484 on Aug 25, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
You gotta be secure in your J-O to ask that. If it was Bowen as reported below, that’s kind of the sucky part of being a reporter. Some shit you hate to ask but you have to … and honestly if all you ask is boring questions the players always have standard answers for, they never say anything interesting. Unless they’re just that crazy go-to quote guy on the team.
As much as I love all the secondary ways we cover teams nowadays, it’s still the people with access and the nuts to ask tough (and occasionally, stupid) questions who drive everything.
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Gotta disagree
It was pretty much fishing, hoping to get Vick mad and cause some sort of quotable rant. However, it was stupid because it was already asked and explored and there’s no real story there. I can’t say it had to be done. Vick did a good job of turning it into a laugh.
Now if he’d asked “What if you were Korean?”, that would have taken some cojones.
Or “if you could say anything to the OL coach after this game, what would it be?”
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That's not a tough question to ask
It’s an idiotic question to ask.
It’s driven by the goats at E$PN. There is no reason actual journalists should pander to the ineptitude of Bristol.
I don't see why it would...
But that is something I need to see to believe.
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It was Les Bowen.
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I think he should herein be referred to as
“Clay Casey” in all references
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by D3Keith on Aug 26, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
"So Mike
if your head was made of barbequed spare ribs, WOULD you eat yourself?"
by theguyotc on Aug 25, 2011 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
“Hey Mike, everytime I use you on Madden and I get sacked, you fumble the ball. When are you going to correct this issue?”
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
Who gets sacked with Vick on madden?… lol I know what you mean but my fumbles usually come after i refuse to slide and try to break a LB’s tackle.. Its too fun not to run with vick
I piss people off with that.
I’ll break off some 80 yd run with Vick because they’re playing all of their players downfield. Then when they blitz, I just run a slant or hook and break off yardage that way.
by nyeaglesfan624 on Aug 25, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
wash it down with a tall, cool budweiser too
by RogerPodacter on Aug 26, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
lol i didnt know we traded Casey for Clay
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i just got home from the game and after reading this, there was a couple of things that stood out:
The play where Vick ran from the left side of the field….to the right side of the field….to the left side of the field and picked up a couple. Everybody around me reacted the same way: “Wow – he is so fast!” Well yeahhhh he’s Michael Vick but truthfully, when he’s full speed its hard to believe this guy is a quarterback and not playing a wideout. That being said, WHY he was running was important. Offensive line still looks pretty bleh, even for preseason. I hope Watkins learns fast, but hes definitely not the only weakness
Anybody else catch Ronnie Brown? He doesnt get talked about much, but this guy has looked pretty damn solid considering his evaluation on previous health conditions. Our running backs look pretty solid – Dion can def use improvement, but overall I think we have a really great backfield
The rain sucked but managed to do alot of seat shifting…love preseason at times….
In a weak Special Teams season, I think we’re doing alright. Kickoffs have now become field goal practice
Somewhere sold crab fries bc everybody had it but me
interesting, especially the crab fries. i bet they were enticing.
by ieatcrayons on Aug 25, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
beer has food value but food has no beer value
by ieatcrayons on Aug 25, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
So does anyone sell a Coleman jersey or do I have to make it? Because he’s definitely my favorite on the defensive side!
by Fiftyfourd on Aug 25, 2011 11:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Schlereth blasting Eagles o-line on Sportscenter and rightfully so
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So, do we let Kelce-Watkins-Dunlap start next week against the Jets to get some more experience together? Or is it “rest the starters” across the board?
Oh boy, is this great!
by MayIhave10,000marblesplease? on Aug 25, 2011 11:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dunlap isn't that bad.
Kelce is… yeesh right now.
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by chillyphilly on Aug 25, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah overall Dunlap really wasn’t a problem.
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Eagles should keep Dunlap around especially with Ryan Harris's back spasm.
Never call a Phillies, Eagles, Flyers or Sixers fans, a band-wagoner. It is disrespectful. We have suffered agony through the years. Philadelphians should be jovial for their teams' success.
by chillyphilly on Aug 25, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunlap’s very hot and cold… just when you think he’s looking good he fucks up the next week
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He didn't really fuck up this week
other than that one false start. He was pretty decent on pass protection. Run blocking not so much.
fact
If we have three hot and cold tackles it’s gonna be a hell of a ride.
as much as we all thought Justice and Dunlap sucked a few years ago, it’s amazing that we want one of them to start so we can get to a Super Bowl.
also pleaseGodhealRyanHarris’sbackpleaseGodhealRyanHarris’sbackpleaseGodhealRyanHarris’sback
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why
don’t we kick Herremans out to RT and put Mathis in his place at LG? On paper, at least, that seems to be the best line…
by ChillBillinChina on Aug 26, 2011 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions
C
isn’t a real problem, Jamaal Jackson will start. Being in China, I couldn’t watch the game so I don’t know how they looked. RT seems to be a problem though, hence the revolving door there recently (I know injuries have played a part, but even before Justice went down there were questions about his viability in the role). You can’t worry about just last night’s showing. If Herremans is a better tackle than the rest and Mathis is a better guard than they are tackles, then that arrangement should at least get a look. If it’s not successful, go back. No harm trying it for a few series in the preseason.
by ChillBillinChina on Aug 26, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, RT hasn't been much of a problem
Harris looked great at RT, but he’s injured – Dunlap has performed admirably in his stead.
Start 'em all.
At the very least start Kelce, Watkins and Dunlap. Though at this point I don’t see why Jackson shouldn’t be starting at center for now.
Missed game here in New York
But don’t think anyone should be happy with the performance tonight. Against a low-level defense, the Eagles couldn’t create a decent passing pocket for Vick. And on defense, the sky-is-falling complaints about the linebackers were really overblown. I went back and watched much of last week’s game on slow motion and the defensive line played terribly as well. Casey was in position to make a lot more tackles last week then he got credit for, but missed while disrupting the play. And hope Kurt Coleman is as good as everyone thinks he is, but when you are a safety and unblocked, you should make a tackle. Most of his tackles last week were coming backside and not being accounted for and one play near the goal line the play was away from him, Mendenhall cut back and beat him for a big gainer. I know it’s the preseason, and thank God we have Vick’s legs to bail out the line and once the season starts there will be a lot more blitzing and Babin looks like a stud.
Whoa
I thought you missed the game?
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Lebron James - a headband
by arodgb on Aug 25, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh
Well, I wouldn’t be too worried. I mean, just look at the Cowboys roster.
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Yeah that's clever
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Kelce was terrible
If they want Vick to make it to week 2, they better start Jackson. Kelce has potential, but he is clearly physically outmatched…get that boy in the weight room.
27 and counting...
how you feeling
You got the win and your defense looked good but how are you guys feeling about your o-line? you think maybe just shuffle things up a little? Are you going to have to pick up someone? Just kinda wondering your thoughts on it.
by rogerwhitedorcett on Aug 25, 2011 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
Yes
I don’t think anybody here is ready to lean on Kelce instead of Jamaal Jackson at center. We’d love for Ryan Harris and/or Winston Justice to get healthy (and not cut, in RH’s case) at T. RG I think Mathis is the Plan B if Watkins can’t go, but we might just live or die with the rook.
I don’t know that picking someone up is the answer. Building continuity would probably help more.
Personally I’m glad we found out about Kelce in the preseason.
Also when Vick does get killed, I hope it’s late enough in the year where VY grasps the offense, yet early enough so he can come back healthy for the playoffs.
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any positives
are nullfied by the fact that they played the Browns.
Any negatives are magnified because they happened against the Browns.
They have one more preseason game to ease the horrible tension that this o-line has caused me.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Still
You have got to be excited with your defense right. I think the o-line will gel it just might take a liitle bit. The shortened off season is kicking everyones butt in one way or another.
by rogerwhitedorcett on Aug 26, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
the most boring offense in the league
ran all over them last week.
Potential is there, but potential and three dollars will get you a cup of coffee. I’m not confident, but I am hopeful.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
ok fine
I was exaggerating to point.
The Eagles were still embarassed by a running attack that lacks imagination.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
A running attack that takes them into the playoffs and sometimes the superbowl… Imaginative or not it wins them games (big games)
I take the "the" out of psychotherapist
by 1220369299 on Aug 26, 2011 12:31 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
3 bucks for a cup of coffee?
The world is effed up.
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I did like the defense yes
Last week it was the opposite, the O-line looked good and the D was shaky.
Given all the upheaval and lack of time together, it might be that way for a while with the Eagles, but I’d still rather have all this talent that might come together than be hoping and wishing someone comes out of nowhere to be good.
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Another lazy analysis
The Browns aren’t bad.
Just because you don’t know how to keep up with teams and their talent shifts doesn’t mean they aren’t improved in reality. Perhaps they aren’t in your own little imaginary world, but we’re not too concerned with that.
Really? Thanks for the enlightenment you condescending prick
Where has this team, that finished a whopping 5-11 last year, made significant improvements? They are starting Colt McCoy at qb, who is still unproven. They are implementing new systems on offense and defense.
They made a great draft-day deal with Atlanta but…um…that will help in the FUTURE! You know? Where Sparty lives because you can’t win shit now.
You want to use the Browns as a benchmark, that’s fine. Forgive me if I don’t think a team that didn’t make any major roster upgrades and went 5-11 last year is poor. Eat a dick
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
cwel made a jackass comment
without backing it up because he’s too fucking stupid to do so.
So no, I’m not mad. But I am right
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
You're the moron who made the claim without backing it up
I called you out on it.
You’re a fucking moron, bro.
I did back it up
Even though I didn’t think I had to since, you know, people know the Browns aren’t good.
Only tools like you would try to argue on that one
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
by tanman5 on Aug 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I suggest you find the cardboard box you crawled out of
And get back in there!
Seriously, your analysis was shit. And you deserve to know that you’re being obstinate. The Browns’ offensive line and running attack is one of the best in football, they’ve got a quality, young quarterback. Their wide receivers aren’t exactly proven, but they’re solid if unspectacular.
The defense is a little bit below average overall, but I never said they were world-beaters. They’re jut not atrocious as you seem to believe, without any real evidence to support such a claim.
Nice potshot on the Spartans, by the way. Still got that reversible sweater for college football/basketball season? I don’t take Wal-Mart Wolverines seriously, sorry.
Good thing I'm not a Wal-Mart Wolverine then
Because I graduated from there you ignorant fucktard.
“Offensive line and running attacks is one of the best in football” Joe Thomas and Peyton Hillis are nice, but you are VASTLY overrating the impact that has on the team because as I mentioned they were FIVE and FUCKING ELEVEN last year. They finished 12th in the league in rushing yards despite having “one of the best running attacks in football”. That’s hardly amazing.
Quality young quarterback is very debatable. For all the hype, he had a 74.5 rating last year and a 6:9 TD:INT ratio. He showed signs obviously, but forgive me if I don’t call him a better than average starter at this point (and even average is generous).
Defense was below average last year, 23rd in the league in total defense. Maybe not awful, but not great either.
You’re basing my alleged “ignorance” on the strong draft moves the Browns made that have set them up nicely for the future. Again, there is no doubt that is the case, but that is over the next few years. They are still very young and did not have a major talent infusion. They are also SWITCHING OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SYSTEMS.
Now, you’re just arguing semantics with me. I wrote that the Browns are not a good team, and you’re trying to argue that “they’re okay, they’re not bad”. Whatever dude. The Eagles are trying to compete with the best in the league, and they got destroyed by one of those teams last game.
The fact remains that the Browns are a below average team THIS YEAR, and we cannot learn too much about this team from a game with them.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
by tanman5 on Aug 26, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At least not too much positive stuff
But if we struggled so badly in pass protection against a team that finished 25th in sacks last year, that is a concern.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Jeez
You guys are a friggin misery. Team looked good. Plus, uhhhhhhhhhhhh its preseason.
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by MidwesternEaglesfan on Aug 26, 2011 12:13 AM EDT reply actions
Eagles in preliminary talks with Lofa Tatupu
According to ESPN NFL live.
NFL, I am no longer disappoint.
I thought his knees were shot?
by Fiftyfourd on Aug 26, 2011 1:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Haha so true. And how can anyone be talking trash on our lbs after last night? God, give them a shred of respect. They bounced back and did their jobs.
Also lofa is done. He had double knee surgery and was cut by Seattle…FUCKING SEATTLE. Id rather bring in trotter or put duce out there. He is not an upgrade over the lbs we have now.
by VRFC8 on Aug 26, 2011 9:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If they can get him for cheap
I wouldn’t mind seeing him get a shot
by flyeaglesfly1020 on Aug 26, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
It looked like our O-line was lined up in the "wide nine"
//too dense to figure out sarcasm font
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by IWantToFlyLikeAnEagle on Aug 26, 2011 12:41 AM EDT reply actions
Quick thoughts
Had a great time at the game tonight. Got there a little bit late (end of 1st quarter, beginning of 2nd)… I thought King did a decent job tonight. Liking what I see out of Dion Lewis + Ronnie Brown, not to mention that Shady guy. Disappointed that I didn’t get to see any real deep passes… Looking forward to getting to sit down and review the game.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Aug 26, 2011 12:53 AM EDT reply actions
Has anyone even mentioned this?
Another preseason game down with no major injuries! As far as I’m concerned that alone makes any preseason game a success.
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Hanson for a a RT or RG from new york or anyone else who is in dyer need of a nickel Cornerback
by Bright-Future Burrus on Aug 26, 2011 1:21 AM EDT reply actions
it's not hard
I think Hanson is on the way out..wat do you think we can get for him. from seeing our o line may be we can get somebody who can actually step up and be a good guard or tackle for the right side
by Bright-Future Burrus on Aug 26, 2011 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I just wish the Eagles had used their first round pick to take a guard instead of
Oh boy, is this great!
by MayIhave10,000marblesplease? on Aug 26, 2011 6:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thought the defense did great
Mccoy has looked amazing this preseason and we made him look silly.
Worried about the offensive line, and desean is really worrying me. Looked to me like he just didn’t give a shit out there today. Impressed by Matthews. Made some tackles, and I noticed a couple times he was just a step behind from stopping a RB at/close to the line. Considering this is his 3rd game in the NFL, I think soon enough he’ll read the plays better and maybe be that one step quicker.
Finally, I love Landri. that celebration he did was awesome. As well as Dorenbos.
by flyeaglesfly1020 on Aug 26, 2011 1:34 AM EDT reply actions
Also
I’m really becoming a big fan of coleman. He’s EVERWHERE. Whereever the ball is, coleman’s there.
by flyeaglesfly1020 on Aug 26, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
How’d Te’o play?
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thats like asking how did Jamarcus Russel play?
by theaction on Aug 26, 2011 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haters. lol, He didn’t do much, unfortunately. But he didn’t make any big mistakes either.
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To be fair though
I thought both would make the team, but with our increasing line ‘concerns’, I think there’s a possibility we carry an additional C/G tweener (coughMcGlynncough) – and that would likely be at the expense of an end.
I agree. I love Te’o and I think he’s gonna be very good — but so is Hunt. It’s a real tough call, and I don’t think we can keep both. I like Parker, but I think Both of these guys can match his production for less money, and they’re younger. I’d like to see Parker traded for a late rounder to someone who needs a placeholder at DE.
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I wasn’t aware they could refuse to review a touchdown?
The 15 yrd penalty seems allright, but man, flat out refusing to review it?
That just sounds… Childish….
it just makes the rule even worse
over/under 2 years and the score replay rule is abandoned? i’m taking the under.
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IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
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It’s retarded. You threw the flag, I’m not looking. Sounds like a four year old throwing a tantrum.
by 92-74-99-96 on Aug 26, 2011 5:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't understand how it's unsportsmanlike conduct...
I could see if it were delay of game and it was a 5-yard penalty, especially given that a 15-yarder takes it to the midfield line.
And to not review because of that is complete bullshit.
Anybody annoyed of deseans performance?
To me, if u want a big pay check, you need to give it your all every play. Obviously, DeSean deserves a new contract, but the effort just wasn’t there tonight at all and it was really pissing me off. Sorry to rant. I love DJax but was really disappointed tonight.
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Aug 26, 2011 4:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
It’s preseason, there are people in the stands making more money than him this year… why would he risk it?
Yeah, that's true
But he’s negotiating a new contract. He’s not convincing anyone to pay him the way he played last night. And it only frustrates me so much because I want the eagles to pay him.
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Aug 26, 2011 12:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It worries me
Because it’s one of those things that becomes a cycle. Desean won’t give any effort til he gets a new contract, and the eagles FO won’t give him a new contract til he plays well. And I’m pretty sure if you try to get into a pissing contest with the FO youre gonna lose. It’s either that or Desean continues to show a lack of consistency
by Matthew Krawcheck on Aug 26, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats djax for you
I love and hate the guy. I really hope the reason he wasn’t getting any catches is because he isn’t putting any effort. He and the coaches need to work on his short routes. Being a deep ball only threat is really the reason why I don’t think he deserves a top WR check.
by Bleeding_Green_Eagle on Aug 26, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
The defense looked good against a hot browns team
Yes it is preseason but the browns and mccoy had been very sharp on o. The lbs can play….surprise surprise. Matthews had a good bounce back game and showed some flashes of those instincts the eagles have been telling us about. I said it last week and ill say it again, the eagles are going to roll with Casey until week 5 before they make any changes. The truth is their are no vet lb sitting out there who would be an upgrade over the current lbs we have. And if someone says lofa they are a moron. The guy had double knee surgery and was released by Seattle…Fucking Seattle. He is done, id rather bring back trotter. Now Matthews played ok but the real story at lb was chaney…dude is looking like a stud.
Now onto the right side of the line….as bad as the lbs looked last week they looked equally lost this week. However like the lbs they are young and will get coached up this week and improve. No reason to overreact yet. Whenever u have two rookies starting next to each other after 4weeks of practice, mistakes will be made. Let them keep working next to each other and develop. Once again dunlap looked ok, no real blow ups.
by VRFC8 on Aug 26, 2011 8:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Anyone else see coleman with the finger wave
When he blew up the bubble screen he got up and taunted mccoy, haha love it. If he keeps up his play through the first few games of the season I may have to buy his jersey.
by VRFC8 on Aug 26, 2011 8:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
i caught it ...
im not sold on the jersey yet … but theres time.
by thePurpleLion on Aug 26, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel like the only one that thinks we looked a lot better because of the scoreboard than we actually played. The defense and the special teams did fine, but the offense was a total trainwreck all game. One scoring drive was a result of a terrible roughing the passer call on the Browns, and the other two were because of the Browns fumbling a punt return. Other than the fact that the defense stepped up, I really wasn’t all that relieved.
He's slick, he's quick, he's Michael Vick.
75% of the Earth is covered by water, the rest by Nnamdi Asomugha.
Offense wasn’t great, but our running game was fantastic and the TEs and Shady looked good in the passing game. it’ll come around once the line gets it together.
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Further, and more importantly...
Our redzone offense looked good … finally!
by thePurpleLion on Aug 26, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha- Penalties assessed on the kickoff are a joke
Get Janikowski out there to boot it out of a stadium.
That’ll help change the rule.
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Celek
Looked great, till he got stuck at blocking. Thinking now that his downfield play is crippled by being so smoked from trying to keep Mike from getting killed. I now see the light on how O. line play affects so much.
Nnamdi
How did he play? I read somehere that he didn’t look so good yesterday, forgot where though. Was he still hit normal shutdown self or anything bad happen :O?
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They didn't always look pretty doing it, but the Eagles got themselves a convincing preseason win over the Cleveland Browns 24-14 at Lincoln Financial Field. Things started off scary as the young Eagles offensive line, namely rookies Jason Kelce and Danny Watkins really struggled and Michael Vick paid for it. Vick ended up being knocked down six times in the first half and nearly all were big hits. However, solid defense combined with some luck made this look like a blowout by the end of the half as the Eagles led 17-0.
The first bit of luck came after the Eagles first offensive series when ex Eagle Sheldon Brown ran into another ex-Eagle Jordan Norwood as the latter was trying to field a punt. The play was ruled a fumble that the Eagles recovered and Ronnie Brown punched in the games' first score with a 13 yard run. After Asante Samuel then picked off Colt McCoy, the offense put three on the board with a Alex Henery 37 yard FG. The last bit of luck for the offense came on a play where Michael Vick got absolutely hammered and ended up throwing an ugly looking pick. However, a very dubious roughing the passer flag was thrown and the play was called back. The offense played much better after that and drove down the field with a drive that was capped off by an 8 yard Vick TD run.
"It was great to be able to get back out there with the guys and play two full quarters and play with a different mindset." Vick said during a sideline interview. "We went into this game knowing that we were going to play at least three quarters and we wanted to put on a good performance. We started out a little shaky but we got it together."
On the defensive side of the ball, everything went pretty well. They got a turnover with the Asante Samuel pick, Colt McCoy was sacked three times and they kept the Browns off the scoreboard. Can't ask for much more. We'll get into some of the individual performances after the jump, but overall they bounced back in a big way from last week's debacle.
It's also worth mentioning the special teams, which made three big plays. They recovered two fumbles on punts and also blocked their second field goal of the preseason, this time by Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.
Solid win where the first team offense and defense win 17-0 and no injuries. There's obviously questions that remain on the right side of the offensive line, but all in all this is a game we can feel pretty good about after the poor showing last week.