Kurt Coleman Emerging As A Leader On Eagles Defense
by JasonB on Aug 22, 2011 3:41 PM EDT
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PrintKurt Coleman's performance last Thursday against the Steelers was arguably the only real bright spot for the Eagles defense. Coleman recorded 11 tackles and generally seemed to be around the ball all the time. Even though he's only in his second season, he's actually considered one of the senior members of the secondary as far as experience in this Eagles defense is concerned. Nnamdi Asomugha and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie are both brand new and while Nate Allen was here last season, it was cut short due to injury. As a result, Juan Castillo has put trust in Coleman to hlpe make the calls and organize the secondary.
"I'm asked to make a lot of the calls on the back end." Coleman said. "Because we have new guys coming into it and they're still learning the system, I have to be on the top of my game and know everything that is going on. I think it's put a challenge on me, but I like it. I'm having fun understanding the defense, maintaining, and pointing people in the right direction."
He says that maintaining organization is going to be important as they look to resolve all the red zone issues they had last year.
"There's two things: you have to have tight coverage in the red zone, and you have to be able to affect the QB. Last year, we didn't always affect the QB and have tight coverage. Especially in the red zone, if you leave any pockets, the QB is going to hit them. Like I said, we have the corners to match up with any wide receivers and the d-line to get after them, so it's about the safeties and the linebackers holding and maintaining the water."
It's really interesting to note that two youngster Eagles fans feel best about as starters in this defense going forward are both seventh round picks, Kurt Coleman and Jamar Chaney.
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so could jarrett end up being a wasted pick
If coleman and nate allen become standouts this season?
by con-vick on Aug 22, 2011 3:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Chances are, Coleman isn’t going to become a stud anytime soon. He simply isn’t good at coverage enough to be anything more than a run stopping safety (think Michael Lewis).
Though (for sake of the argument), if he does turn into a really good player, then Eagles just have three good safeties. Nothing wrong with that.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"To catch theme is my real test, to train them is my cause."
No way
Michael Lewis was terrible, he had the skills he was just never in the right spot, unlike Coleman who appears to always be in the right spot
You’re right he doesn’t have the athletic ability to turn into a young Brian Dawkins, but he’s much better than Lewis and any other safety not named Quintin Mikkel that we had in recent yeras
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
If he can keep doing what hes done..
He will be much better than Mikell… Mikell’s decline became really noticable after Dawk Left.. He always seemed to try and do too much over the years..
Seemed how?
Again with the unfounded claim and lack of evidence.
Seriously, people. You’re better than this contrarian ’I’ll stand out from casual fans if I think something nobody else does!’ bullshit.
I'm sorry, but he's looking like our BEST safety right now.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
wasted pick, hell no!!
If nate allen lost a step, Jarrett steps right in as SS and Kurt stays as FS. Think bout it, both cover the field real well and can hit!! This is the duo I wanna see.
by birdsfaninsc on Aug 22, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
No. The Eagles use 3 safety's pretty much as starters so even if Jarrett or Nate weren't "starters" they would play as much
as the starters.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
We keep hitting on late rounder
now if we could start hitting on 2nd and 3rd rounders , they would just send the whole team in for the pro bowl…..
As for Coleman, I have been saying all along that hes not a 6’1’’ 230 lb 4.2 40 yard stud, but the kid is always in the right spots and playing smart…and quite frankly, that’s quite alright with me, and I think if you ask the 49ers they would agree.
Just be on the same page with the corners and if guys get in your area make the damn tackle!11
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
Umm.. one of Our best rounds in the draft i the second
Kolb, D-Jax, McCoy, Nate allen just too name a few.. but we either hit big or get guys like Abriamiri and laws… FUCK YOU NOTRE DAME
Agreed
Love this kid! Leading the team with 11 tackles in a half, and last game leading the team with 9 tackles. I think he can step up and be a leader for the defense
I remember watching the Redskins game last year
And as much domination we had on both sides of the ball, it was Coleman who stood out to me that game.
I remember seeing him make open field tackles, his ability to (dare I say) sniff out the ball like Polamalu and scoop and score, and his general confidence on the field let me know we might’ve found a better safety in the 7th round, than we did in the 2nd.
Vicks 6 TD’s didnt stand out? :P
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Aug 22, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You can’t say that after one bad game by Allen and Jarrett hasn’t had any playing time . I’m looking at all these snap judgements and just so confused. Coleman is smart and can get better, and I hope he does, but I see Allen and Jarretts upside being higher.
Astra Inclinant, Non Necessitant
by EagleGreeninMD on Aug 22, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
This isn't a snap judgement.
Everyone played awful last game. This was my thought LAST season. I like Allen, I think he’s smart and plays tough.
I just think he jumps too many reads. He needs to be more patient as a safety and let the play develop. We already have one gambler on defense. We don’t need two.
Having 3 guys who can start and play is a good thing
Competition should only make these 3 guys work harder to get better. And it doesn’t leave us in a pinch if 1 of these guys gets hurt.
This guy was a beast coming out of Ohio State
glad we got him
I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, the sinners have much more fun. Billy Joel
Kurt's our best Safety right now, and one of our more consistent players.
He’s in the right place at the right time, he tackles well and he’s smart. I had a great feeling about this kid when we drafted him and I’m sure he’s going to be a stud for us, maybe even our best Safety for the years to come.
I’m ok with a guy who’s not as athletically gifted as others playing as long as they are football smart and make plays, because honestly you could be a 6’5 250lb Safety who runs a 4.19 and hits like a dump truck but if you can’t get into position and you don’t understand the game it doesn’t mean shit.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Yeah pretty much...
Maybe we can trade for Mays? I hear we need at least 1 joke on this team to be relevant.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Don't worry,
Casey Matthews is our starting Middle Linebacker.
King Dunlap is our starting RT.
The Eagles have that quota filled.
by UnclaimedFright on Aug 22, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yet another example of football ability trumping speed and strength measurables from the Combine
Shocking!
Fuck the Combine and its padless, straight-line 40 times that scouts blow loads over.
11 tackles for a DB in one half?
Kudos for Coleman for making the tackles, but if your saftey has double digit tackles before haltime it’s pretty damning evidence that the front seven is not getting the job done.
I think Kurt is probalby our best open field tackler and would like to see him emerge as an effective in the box run stuffer.
In JJ's system...
which Castillo is implementing to an extent, safeties have always been asked to play run support. Mikell led the team in tackles at least once to my knowledge and Michael Lewis was the leader in tackles in 2004.
by eaglemaniac814 on Aug 22, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I like coleman
I think he has only been juked madden style once. It was last year against some guy named adrien Peterson.
So kurt Coleman is apparently emerging as leader of the D........
and this is suppose to be a good thing??? Lol jk i like Kurt Coleman a lot i just think hes a big liability in coverage.
he's been perfectly fine so far and he was solid last season.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
maybe im being a little harsh.....
obviously the FO has a lot of confidence in him since they let Q walk, i can admit sayin hes a liability in coverage is a stretch but id rather see him closer to the line and helping in run support .
by goldenbird09 on Aug 22, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do you 'think' that?
Because there’s very little evidence to support he’s ever been a ‘big liability’ in coverage during any of the games he’s played in.
my guess is he is relating this to that long completion he gave up last week (or was it the 1st ps game?) where the ball basically went right over his shoulder into the WRs hands.
at first i was pissed at him for this and then calmed down and realized that he was in a pretty good position to defend the play and that ball was placed PERFECTLY.
by RogerPodacter on Aug 22, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
his emergence, not the drafting of Jaiquan, is what I feel made Q expendable.
He is the new Q, very good STer and Good against the run, good against the past, gets good positioning. Great leader. Smart.
Trevor Laws: "Thank Giants for kicking to (Desean)."
Mike Vick: "Why would they kick to Desean?"
Matt Dodge: "Snap too high!"
NJ Eagle: "Fly Eagles Fly!!!"
i'm gonna get bashed for this
But I really think Nate Allen’s knee injury is going to be a nagging problem that will stop him from being as good as he could be. I think after this year if he doesn’t step it up Jarret and Coleman will be the safties of the future. Jarret is going to start by the end of this year or beginning of next. It’s gonna be a battle between Coleman and Allen and I think Allen is going to lose that battle. He will eventually be our backup saftey coming in as a spot starter for injuries.
I don't think people realize *why* they're getting bashed though
It has nothing to do with your belief and everything to do with your evidence.
Why do you believe Nate Allen’s knee will be a consistent problem? What evidence do you have to support this claim, with the exception of a single poor preseason performance?
It’s become chic to make predictions based on nothing. I’ll go ahead and blame E$PN because I can for that – but that doesn’t make it look any less stupid every time I see it.
Nate Allen is not goood
I dont understand what people see in him besides his lucky ass INT’s last season, what else has he done to stand out?
ummm
he bulked up and got slower if thats a plus
by phillyfan330 on Aug 23, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Nate will be fine. He’s the total package at safety.
Oh boy, is this great!
by MayIhave10,000marblesplease? on Aug 22, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions
picks..
its funny how the eagles dont make the best 1st round picks but the later rounds are always so good
Just heard Giants CB Terrell Thomas.. Tore his ACL done for the yr
So thats Two CB’s that will miss major time with Prince also… If we get our protection together it might be tuff for them to match up with our Wide outs
Not to laugh but.....
Bwahhahahahaha…. See ya next year TT…..
RUN VICK RUN!!!!!!
by DesertEagle59 on Aug 23, 2011 12:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Always a good thing to have too much depth at a position...
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