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PITTSBURGH - AUGUST 18:  Arnaz Battle #81 of the Pittsburgh Steelers attempts to break a tackle from Nate Allen #29 of the Philadelphia Eagles after catching a pass during the preseason game on August 18, 2011 at Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.  (Photo by Jared Wickerham/Getty Images)

First Impressions - Eagles @ Steelers | ProFootballFocus.com
With Winston Justice sidelined because of a knee injury and Ryan Harris experiencing back problems, King Dunlap was given the start at right tackle. On an early pass play, Dunlap worked well with rookie right guard Danny Watkins – the former picking up a blitzing Lawrence Timmons and passing Lamar Woodley off inside. Dunlap had no problem handling Ziggy Hood when squaring off with him on runs or passses. Watkins wasn’t quite able to seal Hood on a toss play, though, allowing him to make the stop. He came back on the next snap however and did a nice job on a draw and a James Farrior blitz also failed to get around him. Watkins flashed the ability that made him a first round pick and both men were perfect in pass protection for two second quarter passes.

Eagles' Allen in a position to improve | Philadelphia Inquirer | 08/20/2011
If Nate Allen is honest with himself, his second season will be harder than the first. The safety is coming off knee surgery, adjusting to an altered role in a new scheme, and trying to fill the leadership void on defense.

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Seven former players have sued the NFL in Philadelphia over concussion-related injuries, the first potential class-action lawsuit of its kind. The players accuse the league of failing to protect their health and of trying to conceal any links between football and brain injuries. The players include former Philadelphia Eagles quarterback and two-time Super Bowl champion Jim McMahon.

Didinger: Observations from loss to Steelers

The Eagles were embarrassed by the Steelers, but Ray Didinger found one positive in his observations: they now know they're not Vince Young's "Dream Team."

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"There was an element of luck," Banner said. "There was an element of persistence. The funny thing is when we signed Nnamdi, we thought we were done. . . . [But] there just kept being opportunities we felt were consistent with the goal of being aggressive in the short term but not sacrificing in the long term."

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If I see I hear “dream team” one more time, I’m gonna choke a bitch.

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.

by immynimmy on Aug 20, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

If I see I hear "dream team" one more time, I’m gonna choke a bitch.

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.

by immynimmy on Aug 20, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think I’ve ever been so sick of hearing a name ir phrase before. Maybe “America’s Team”… But Vince will forever live in infamy for that boneheaded quote.

by 92-74-99-96 on Aug 20, 2011 11:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

it wasn't even THAT bonehead

The media turned it into what it is now.

"I don’t know whether I prefer Astroturf to grass. I never smoked Astroturf." - Joe Namath

by David_K on Aug 20, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is true. But, I would think athletes in todays world know they can’t scratch their nuts without having it be analyzed and scrutinized.

by 92-74-99-96 on Aug 20, 2011 1:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's absolutely true as well.

I just see “dream team” as a catchy way to mock us or make us look overconfident. If he had said “Unprecedented, utterly amazing, one of the best free agencies in the history of any sport” then it wouldn’t have caught on as easily as “dream team”. It’s just an easy thing to quote and mock. It isn’t fair or really that avoidable. He just said a catchy, familiar, and borderline true statement. The (stupid, mindless) media thrives on shit like that. Hard to predict.

"I don’t know whether I prefer Astroturf to grass. I never smoked Astroturf." - Joe Namath

by David_K on Aug 20, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just so out of our birds character to attack the FA market....

the way they did this yr. In my 20yr brotherhood,i cant remember them ever being so aggressive. I give them credit for taking a shot and seeing wut happens,but we are by no means a ,“Dr@!# Te@$”. I refuse to mention the word!! LOL

"Shady hits the hole as he breaks one for 80,running over both linebackers and the free safety". -Me

by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 21, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, there’s no denying that VY is a bonehead.

by cin7 on Aug 20, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard some of the players & even some of the writers say that this should end the dream team talk. I doubt it does it’s going to go on all year.

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by The Legend on Aug 20, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Sigh, Nate Allen...

Kurt Coleman outplayed him…a 7th rounder in the same draft. I hope Nate Allen gets his shit together because he wasn’t supposed to be a weakness for us this year. Leave that to Casey Matthews.

by Bleeding_Green_Eagle on Aug 20, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

He can’t possibly look as bad as he did against the Steelers again. At least I hope he can’t.

by 92-74-99-96 on Aug 20, 2011 11:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Allen..

I have really high hopes for the kid. If i remember correctly he had a pic in his 1st game last yr. He’s someone I’m considering getting a jersey this yr so u knw hw tht goes. But I’m pulling for him. We all should.

"Shady hits the hole as he breaks one for 80,running over both linebackers and the free safety". -Me

by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 21, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Profootballfocus.com

I think it’s important to read an objective, non-homer, analysis in order to keep our perspective. With the exception of Matthews/linebacking, most of the issues from the Steelers game can be attributed to tweaking, more reps, and general preseason sloppiness.

The Eagles are notorious slow starters. I wouldn’t be surprised if we drop a few more stinkers before we gel.

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by oldasquick on Aug 20, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I think you're right.

Make the mistakes now and learn from them. Honestly, we have a brand new DC with a new scheme and it’s not gunna be a success over night. We’re gunna be fine.

"Get 'Em"

by FlyEagles15 on Aug 20, 2011 1:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

My thoughts on the game

I know that this was all talked about yesterday, but here are my thought:
- The offense played shitty but im not worried at all about them . Theyve been playing for a couple of weeks, theyll be back on track in no time.
- Now the Defense. I think that overall, Reid is asking A LOT from his personel and his rookie/2nd year guys. CAstillo is new a this, who knows if he can actually call a game. During the game, there were questionable calls made. Now i know its preaseason and its vanilla but, the few blitz that he called werent very timely. Perhaps he was just practicing them, I dont know, but im not going to make a huge deal out of it. All im saying is that we are all assuming that he can do the job…just like we all assumed McD could do the job…
- The Dline was ok. They stuck it up a few times but they were holding there own at the beggining (especially with no Patt/Dix stuffin the run). If it werent for Jenkins 15 yarder, that drive is done with and this game could have been different.
- Now, the LB: Im in no way “jumpin th gun” here. If you put a 4th round rookie in the starting MLB spot, with no mini camps, not OTAs, with young teammates at new positions and against one of the best teams in the NFL…THIS SHIT WILL HAPPEN!!! We are asking way too much from MAtthews at this moment. THe starting lineup should be (and should have always been Fokou-Chaney-Clayton. THey are the teams best LBs and have at least a bit of pro playing exprience. IF we arent happy with those guys, we go trade for a LB we like. Thats it.

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by BWestFactor on Aug 20, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I left out Safeties, but the same apply. We have 2 guys that are basically rookie/2nd year guys in there. One is coming off an injury that I knew would affect it in the short term. Allen has a new role, he looked lost, but so did the who defense so…could be getting used to the scheme. I think this is where the Eagles should really give Page some first team reps, his experience could be usefull in the short term.

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by BWestFactor on Aug 20, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Juan's blitzes were poor and his timing of zone schemes were awful

Hopefully it’s a vanilla thing.

This team keeping a base man-scheme with zones and blitzes mixed in at opportune times is the best bet. Any thought of a form of cover-2 as our base scheme should be scrapped. Immediately.

Our corners are excellent. Let them be excellent as often as possible.

by cwel87 on Aug 20, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, exactly. And again, there are so many factors for why they shit the bed on Defense. Lots of moving parts, lots of inexperience and not enough time to practice…

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by BWestFactor on Aug 20, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just loved how we bring out the dime package on 3rd and long (sounds good right?) then we blitz DRC and Allen so we get burned for a TD. What the fuck is the point of a dime package if you’re going to blitz your cover guys. Just leave the LB’s in and let them blitz, only a 1st year rookie QB would be confused by that nonsense.

by cin7 on Aug 20, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

the

one blitz that Asante got beat on for the TD was not his fault. I was a well designed blitz that worked, however Allen did not continue to the QB he stopped and then put his hands up. He has to continue to the QB and hit him.

by Mattx on Aug 21, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Spot-on analysis by Didinger, as always

The touchdown pass Asante got ‘credit’ for was actually Allen’s fault.

Pretty much the whole team played poorly, but Matthews and Allen flat-out stunk. Vick’s issues were all about forcing throws and jumping around, and he admitted as much – but with Matthews it looked physical, and with Allen it looked…well, it just flat-out looked like shit.

Allen sucked.

by cwel87 on Aug 20, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, it was partly Allen’s fault for not blitzing correctly.. Also, if the point is to blitz and have Asante play short, then obviously the safety has to watch Asante’s back… NFL is a league of holding and you’re playing against a scrambling QB.. doesn’t take that many brains to predict what will happen.

As I said earlier, what a waste of the dime package if you have Allen and DRC blitzing… cover that shit.

by cin7 on Aug 20, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

did not see your post before I wrote mine.

by Mattx on Aug 21, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s actually nice to see Dunlap get some credit, he gets hated on way too much & it’s all because of the Raider game a couple years ago.

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by The Legend on Aug 20, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

They are consistently inconsistent

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by BWestFactor on Aug 20, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone is killing Nate on the Philly Inquirer article page – saying the Eagles should have drafted Earl Thomas instead. I was in favor of Thomas at the time, but it’s about time you support Nate instead of calling him a bust.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Aug 20, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Calling him a bust after Thursday's game is absolutely ridiculous.

I agree with you, we need to support him. I have no doubt in my mind that Allen will learn his new role in the defense. Brush your shoulders off Nate. Don’t make me regret buying your jersey.

"Get 'Em"

by FlyEagles15 on Aug 20, 2011 2:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Picture it in green...

I just came. Someone hand me a kleenex….

Doc Brown’s DeLorean is the only solution to our safety woes.

Q: What do a leaky tampon and Sean McDermott's defense have in common?
A: They are equally ineffective in the red zone.

Ed Wade=all the farm system the Phillies will ever need.

by EvilBanner on Aug 20, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

lets not get crazy here

It be nice and all but superstars dont always make you win ….

That shitty performance on Thur night had the likes of Asante, Nnamdi, Cole, Jenkins and Babin, DRC…how many more stars.probowlers does a team need??

FLY #7 FLY !!!
In MUDD I trust !!!

by BWestFactor on Aug 20, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because when a player had a good rookie season and one bad preseason game. you should wonder about impossibilities that was never going to happen.

Maybe we should replace Vick with Tom Brady while we’re at it.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"To catch theme is my real test, to train them is my cause."

by Imp on Aug 20, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have that exact jersey lol

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by Djax10 on Aug 20, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen anyone mention this yet,

I know this is a pre-season game and Reid and Co probably didn’t plan too much for the Steelers, but this reeks a little like the Minnesota or Tennessee games last year (Nate Allen’s coverage for example).

I hope I’m not reading too much into it.

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by thehuntedpossum on Aug 20, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope I’m not reading too much into it.

You are.

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by Kevin M. on Aug 20, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

lets all come down. We got a whole new defensive system and all new players. There is plenty of time to work the kinks out. I have faith in the coaches. It is better to have this happen now than to happen in regular season. I am looking and I hope Reid is to at the waiver wire for a veteran MLB, I think Matthews needs to sit and watch someone with some seasoning. I am not giving up on him, I still think he can be good. He needs to learn and put on some wieght. Remember he is a 4th round pick getting thrown it at one of the most diffucult positions in the game, lets not give up on the kid just yet.

by Mattx on Aug 21, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Calm the f@ck down

Its the 2nd preseason game. Its means nothing. Hell, you would think the people on here would realize that the only preseason game that means anything is the 3rd one. Even then, it doesn’t tell you much.

Some of the concerns about the defense are legit. Was asking a lot of them even if camp hadn’t been short to come together in a short time period. It also doesn’t help that they got rid of some of their veteran depth (Mikell, Bunkley, Bradley) and are really young & inexperienced at LB and S. Drafted a bunch of young guys on defense the past 2 years and have little to show for it so.

Matthews is a big concern obviously but the one I wonder about is Allen. He was terrible. Was out of position several times, was slow to react, and doesn’t quite look physically right with a little bit of a slower reaction time than earlier last year. Allen generally got a free pass around here last year but his play declined dramatically after the first 2-3 games last year. Terrible in a number of games including the Titans and Bears games. Page though is a backup & is a special teams guy. Jackson has played sparingly & I wonder if he even makes the team.

Did thought Coleman played well. He doesn’t exactly have the size you would like at SS but he is a sound tackler. I would argue he is the best tackler on this team right now which isn’t saying much. Poor and inconsistent tackling especially at LB and secondary is going to be a pretty issue I bet this year for the defense. Not a single guy at LB who wraps up people that well. Ditto the secondary except Coleman. Jarrett might be a hitter but he looks lost and out of step in the limited time he has played. Coleman should win the job so far at SS because Jarrett hasn’t showed enough.

by MG77 on Aug 20, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Nate is gonna be fine.

I really think the short offseason has rushed the learning curve on Juan’s defense and some of the rookies/soph ability to return from injuries and just get used to the speed of the NFL. Nate will figure things out.

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by ForTheLove on Aug 20, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Some news from Twitter

Apparently Nick Cole has received offers from 4 teams and declined all of them….. lol. Also the Eagles were among 16 other teams at Terelle Pryor’s workout today.

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by Djax10 on Aug 20, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

They would be at Pryor’s workout.

Who knows…

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by Mikesta on Aug 20, 2011 2:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Was just going to mention the thing on Cole, is he stupid? If he wants to play he needs to just accept an offer or he’ll be forgotten about

by The Legend on Aug 20, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah he’s not exactly a premier player so he doesn’t have too many options, I’m honestly surprised he got 4

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by Djax10 on Aug 20, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

So am I. Frankly, I’m dazzled. What the hell does he think is coming on the horizon?

by 92-74-99-96 on Aug 20, 2011 2:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Janitorial offers?

by cin7 on Aug 20, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha… That may be above his qualifications.

by 92-74-99-96 on Aug 21, 2011 9:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

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