Eagles Vs Steelers Film Review: Casey Matthews Was Worse Than You Thought
by JasonB on Aug 19, 2011 12:48 PM EDT
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PrintCasey Matthews has been the subject of some debate here and has certainly been drawing criticism after last night's game. So I decided to do a film review focusing just on Casey to see if we're overreacting. After doing so, I actually think we may have under-reacted to his performance.... It was not pretty. Keep in mind, I'll only focus on the plays he was really involved in, so this isn't a snap by snap description of what he did last night. If there was a quick pass to the other side of the field or something, then there's really no point mentioning it.
On the first play from scrimmage Matthews was met right in the middle by the Steelers TE #85 and blocked right out of the play opening a hole for Mendenhall to get a four yard gain. Not pretty.
On 3rd and 1, both he and Nate Allen bit on a play action and Heath Miller ran by both for a first down catch. Kurt Coleman crushed him at the end of the play and Jason Babin hit Roethlisberger hard.
First and 10, read a screen well and assisted on the tackle.
2nd and 3, Steelers OT #74 pancakes him. Just grabs him and throws him to the ground. 1st down.
2nd and 10, filled a gap, doesn't get a tackle but the play went for short gain.
1st and 10 Steelers RG #66 grabs him and pushes him all the way outside the hash marks. He was held at the end of the play, but it was probably well after he could have done anything anyway. Really dominated there.
2nd and 10, got in on a tackle on a dump pass.
2nd and 1, had a shot at getting Dwyer near the line of scrimmage but didn't make the tackle. First down.
1st and 10, seemed to have Mendenhall lined up for a tackle on a broken play, but Heinz Ward nailed him in the back, knocking him to the ground and allowing the RB to get a first down.
1st and 10 engaged by #66 and pushed out of the play. There was no gain on the play though because Fokou and Chaney collapsed on the runner.
2nd and 10 was in a position to get Redman for a short gain but was pushed to the ground from behind by Pouncey allowing the RB to go for a 16 yard gain.
Very next play, he is able to get through the line but the RB runs right by him for a 5 yard game. Jamar Chaney makes tackles. (there was a penalty here)
Very next play 2nd and five, Pouncey gets a hold of him and again pushes him from the middle to outside the hashmarks allowing Mendenhall a four yard gain.
Very next play 3rd and 1 Steelers #73 gets through the line and pushes Matthews back and onto the ground. First down. Was really poor on four straight plays.
2nd and 10 Matthews sees the run, hits a gap and gets pushed right out of the play by Pouncey. Run goes for 6
1st and 10 actually gets around a blocker and hauls down Mendenhall for no gain.
1st and 10, Big Ben is out, Matthews gets in the gap and stops a run for no gain. Good play.
At this point Troy Aikman starts talking about the game isn't too big for Matthews and how the Eagles feel really good about him.
3rd and 24 there was no one lined up directly on the slot WR, so Matthews starts to cover him but lets him go, he ends up making the catch for the first down. Not sure how much you put that on Matthews, it looked like Leftwich just dropped it nicely in the zone. Joselio Hanson may have been playing too deep. I can't imagine the defense would have been designed to have the MIKE covering a WR one on one.
1st and 10 he tackles Mwelde Moore for no gain.
1st and 10 assists on a tackle where Moore loses two yards.
1st and 10 after the 3rd Vick pick, Matthews gets credited with a tackle after tapping Leftwich, who slid after a 9 yard run.
2nd and 1 Steelers' Legurski #64 gets his hands on Matthews and probably holds him... but it allows for the RB to get a firs down.
And so the first half ends. It was not pretty folks... It's true the DTs did him no favors and there were offensive lineman getting their hands on him a lot, but the fact is that you've got to shed at least some of those blocks and he really didn't. In fact, in the whole first half, I only saw one time where he literally shed a block to make a tackle. All of his other stops came on plays where he was unblocked or went around blockers.
Let's be fair here, if there were any other season, Matthews would be in OTAs 21 days after starting the offseason program. He would not be playing the Steelers... So, while I don't know that we can definitively that this guy will never be ready to be a starting LB in this league, I can say pretty definitely after watching this film that he's not ready right now.
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Hmm
In reading this it seems like he got better as the game progressed. That seems like a positive to me, considering he has not had a ton of time in the defense.
by PhilsForever on Aug 19, 2011 12:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He did some good things when the Steelers first team went out…
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umm big ben went out but the line and wr were the same.
by VRFC8 on Aug 19, 2011 1:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Mendenhall was out as well.
And I’m not sure whether all the Steelers starters stayed in. Guys like Ward and Miller were out.
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Heinz killed him on one block
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by birdsflyinhigh2590 on Aug 19, 2011 1:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dirty player. Color me shocked. He smiles a lot and gets away it consistently.
by 92-74-99-96 on Aug 19, 2011 6:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i thought the same thing.
I agree his play was pretty much an abortion but this was his first NFL start on the road against a good team. I’m willing to let him keep playing and get more experience to see if he improves instead of throwing a vet in there for one yr. Also why is it usually acceptable to take this approach with qb’s but with no other positions??
by VRFC8 on Aug 19, 2011 1:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What’s the learning curve? Do we give him three more weeks, or do we use those three weeks to acclimate a veteran LB into the MIKE position?
by UnclaimedFright on Aug 19, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
if it was me id give him extended playing time
Over the next two preseason games. Even if it is against 2nd and 3rd stringers. Right now when I watch Casey, his number one problem is he is hesitant and thinking to much. Let him get comfortable and see if his play improves. Because honestly our two FA options for mlb are Morrison and lofa. Each have sat unsigned for weeks. How good are they
by VRFC8 on Aug 19, 2011 1:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I said it in another thread and I’ll say it again. This game was good for Juan and Casey. It is obvious to most people that the Eagles biggest weakness on D is our LB’s. I’m really happy that Ben sneaked wight up the middle when our DT were wide. It should be obvious that the Lb’s need to watch for that but when he’s busy thinking so much the obvious things go out the window.
I’d say he gets more time, Juan now needs to work on his adjustments and nothing like an old fashion but kicking to get the team more motivated.
by USM_Eagle on Aug 19, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the write up
the other concern was the play of Nate Allen… He didn’t look fast and boy did he look lost. .. If there was any silver lining it was McCoy looked fab, and so did Babin and Cole… Other than that ….YOWZA!!!!!!!
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I don’t know that it was a speed thing with Allen, but he did seem indecisive and lost. It was never quickness that was getting him in trouble, it seemed to be some confusion. It’s odd because he didn’t even look confused as a rookie.
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New scheme that asks him to do a lot of things and he switched spots, he is the strong safety not the free safety now.
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Basically Juan said Nate still plays centerfield and if someone has to drop into the box it’s the other guy.
In other words, the new scheme might be a valid excuse, but “he switched spots” is not.
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Yeah I didn't particularly like that pick
But I like him in the preseason so far.
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needs alot of improvement, hasnext thurs to do so
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by henry-dekoeyer-eagle-fan on Aug 19, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
I was pissed I had to work last night
now I’m kinda happy I did…
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by thehuntedpossum on Aug 19, 2011 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t know who the hell in the Eagles organization decided that he can start at MLB for us, but they’re insane…. Give me Fokou-Chaney-Clayton and call it a day.
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I want to see if Chaney does better than Matthews.
Matthews can move to the outside for a bit, I want to see if the results are different.
by nyeaglesfan624 on Aug 19, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t get why he has to start as MLB from day 1. It’s not much different from giving a 4th rounder QB the starter job from day 1.
I’ve been saying this too. It’s the name on the back of his jersey. If his name where Casey Johnson, fans would be all up in arms about why the hell is this guy starting? There’s a reason Casey Matthews was picked in the fourth round…
by FooFighter1124 on Aug 19, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Question from a Panther's fan
Do you think you guys are in the market for an MLB at all? We’re overloaded at the position and Dan Connor, our backup, could start on half the teams in this league. Conveniently, we also have a dearth at corner and a lot of money tied up at the LB position, and its a contract year for Connor. If there’s a position the Panthers are looking for right now its corner, and if there’s a player they can deal its probably Connor. I personally don’t care for Samuel and his cap hit is too much for us, but I don’t know what you guys have at #4 and onward.
Probably would have to give you Joselio Hanson (our 4th corner) and a late draft pick for Connor, which i’d be fine with
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k, thanks for the info
I doubt it happens, just rosterbaiting and getting a Eagles opinion. We’re most likely to wait for cuts and pick up a JAG $1m/yr CB.
Let me rephrase my comment above
I’d love Connor (because I’m a PSU fan). But is he a clear-cut upgrade over Matthews? I’m not so sure. Connor’s only 6-2 230-ish. Which is basically the exact same size as Matthews. We need someone bigger who is going to be a force against the run. We don’t need another undersized LB.
He played very well, especially in run D, when Beason was at WLB for half of last season. I thought he played the run better than Beason, FWIW. Beason's more complete though.
As for rumors on trade, its only speculation from a logical conclusion. He’s in a contract year behind $17m/yr in LB starters. There’s no way he’s going to get re-signed unless we lose someone or he takes a very cheap contract and/or gets overlooked by other teams. We’re also quite thin at DT and CB, where we have six LBs that could start. His knock is that he’s injury prone which makes him an absolutely perfect backup for us, but if he can stay on the field I think he’s a beast.
That's at least where we're overloaded
CB and DT.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the teams call and talk at least.
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People complain about Casey being 232 when he’s actually 245 now, Connor is 231, plus we just got rid of a injury prone MLB they probably don’t want to deal with that again
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I would
be all over that. Full disclosure: PSU alum, and biased
by ChillBillinChina on Aug 20, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you - my 2 cents
Bradley Gaither Chaney Matthews Chaney
Few things on Casey:
1- I want to see him play behind Dixon and Patterson before I give up on him. Jenkins and Hargrove weren’t doing him any favors by penetrating past the play, essentially taking themselves out of the play. Even Ray Lewis needs help from the DTs, which is why he was so vocal in Balt keeping Nata.
2- Was Casey employing good technique and just couldn’t make the plays, or was it a lack of technique? If it was poor technique, then he can be coached up. If it wasn’t a technique problem, then we have a major issue.
3- The entire defense played poor. The offense didn’t help with 3 turnovers in the 1st half. It is easy to dump on Casey, but realistically, he wasn’t the only Eagle on defense who should be worrying us. When your S has 11 tackles in the first half, the entire front 7 is to blame.
The name got his stock way too high and you guys bought it...
he should have been a 6th round steal,imo.
Then he could have been a pleasant surprise instead of being forced to live to the expectation of being an instant starter.
Like the way we got Sash,Greg Jones,and Herzlich.
You drafted some good,tough players but maybe reached on them.
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we've replaced waaayyy better players than him
they can't stop us
SMASHMOUT
if he turns out to be a good player, then there's no such thing as a reach
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I’m sorry, are you trying to lecture us on drafting? How about letting Herzlich play a down in the regular season before putting him on a pedestal and using him as an example of your GM’s great decision making.
And btw, what the fuck does “SMASHMOUT” mean in your sig? Is that supposed to be “smashmouth?” It is kind of hard to take anything you post as serious when your sig has an obvious typo. Go back to BBV Clown.
by The Reddgie on Aug 19, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No typo,sorry your balls are in an uproar Reddgie
Smash other teams in their mouts.
And Herzlich is a win-win for us..no pick wasted no matter what.No pedestal,at all,but at worst we used no pick on him and he gets cut.
At best he returns to form and is a 1st round caliber 43 LB.
Steve Smith is the Judas Iscariot of NYG Football
we've replaced waaayyy better players than him
they can't stop us
SMASHMOUT
by Shaunthegiant on Aug 19, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It is supposed to be smashmout, so are you a poor speller or just plain retarded?
I just find it funny that when BGNers visit BBV, your posts are the type of shit that gets people warned and ultimately banned. But you can come over here and post your opinion because Jimmy, Jason, Bob and Route don’t have sandy vaginas and are willing to let us police the site.
And Herzlich won’t “return to form,” his athleticism that made him a projected 1st round 43 LB is gone and won’t be coming back. If he is anything other than a ST, then and only then should you consider it a win.
And I’ll be making sure to visit BBV on the day after the VaGiants lay eggs and point out all of the “reaches” you guys had during the draft. I am pretty sure you are gonig to see me point out Austin on the regular, you know the guy who hasn’t played football since ’09.
by The Reddgie on Aug 19, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you're buggin' I'm just talkin' football(is it ok for me to type talking,talkin'?)
SMASHMOUT
Steve Smith is the Judas Iscariot of NYG Football
we've replaced waaayyy better players than him
they can't stop us
SMASHMOUT
by Shaunthegiant on Aug 19, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
so far this season.
Whoever you are, when I log off, you cease to exist.
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Not even close
a) We have a gabillion dumber trolls
b) Reddgie’s my man, but he started with him. Dude showed up with a non-attack-based football opinion. Let him live.
I’m with you though, Reg, on the Herzlich conclusion.
Back to the point, it’s a little early to bail on Matthews, but it was a little early to make a 4th round rook the starter too. We’ll see
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Yeah, I got testy a little quick. The fact that he shows up after last night’s loss is what twisted my panties.
Needless to say, last night’s embarrassment has my defense’s on full alert. Shoot first, ask questions later is today’s motto.
Yeah that's a patented troll move
I never go back to anywhere after the 24-hour waiting period, and I posting legitimate stuff … so I imagine it really repels the trolls.
I find ignoring them to be the best pest spray.
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"at worst we used no pick on him and he gets cut."
Then it’s not a “win-win”
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sure it's a win-win
at worst we bring in a smart,versatile LB with one of the best comeback stories I’ve heard and he competes with our other young LB’s,making them work harder,be smarter,etc.With no draft pick invested.So he helps us right there on the low-end.On the high-end we stash him,he regains his athleticism and is a star in 2012.
Steve Smith is the Judas Iscariot of NYG Football
we've replaced waaayyy better players than him
they can't stop us
SMASHMOUT
by Shaunthegiant on Aug 19, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, if the likeliest scenario happens and he’s cut in two weeks there was no “win” whatsoever.
There hasn’t bee no win at all at this point.
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thanks
made me chuckle
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by CarolinaGreen on Aug 19, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a not-not.
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win-win. That's the first time a Giant's has been able to use those words in a row in a convo w/ Eagles fans in a loOOong while
3 years or so.
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You do realize the expectations of starters and 4th-round draft picks are independent of each other, right?
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by alcatraz0109 on Aug 19, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Not all middle round picks are Trent Cole.
At the time of the draft, Casey Matthews as the 116th overall pick was graded from being drafted to where he was projected to a steal. Casey Matthews in the 4th round certainly was not a reach.
At the same time, though, that does not mean he is ready to be a starter yet nor should he be a starter yet. I’m not as high on him as some others are yet, but I’d like to see Chaney given the starting job at MIKE.
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It sounds like he’s ready mentally but not physically. He knows what plays to make and is in the right spots, but he just gets manhandled by lineman twice his size. Last game he played decent, especially in passing situations. Flip Chaney and Matthews around in the lineup and we’re set.
I thought it sounded like he was thinking too much
and not getting his body in the right position, which would be the opposite … not mentally ready.
That said, it’s early to bail on the kid and every team won’t mash us like the Steelers.
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So now
Obviously he will play in the third preseason game, if he shows the same type of poor showing do they sit him for a year? Sure he doesnt get the on the field experience and development, but he can go to meetings and try to learn the d. In the meantime chaney mans the mike position during the regular season. Because with all the aquistions the team has made this season and the slogan of “all in” you cant risk a stellar season to develop a future mike backer
by Matthew Krawcheck on Aug 19, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
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The blueprint to destroying this defense is to hit them in the middle. That’s what PIT did and we should be thankful that Castillo has to address this sooner than later. This defense might be like a bad donut – hard on the outside and soft on the inside. Casey can’t start for us. It’s a ridiculous idea.
by andyreidswaistline on Aug 19, 2011 1:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Juan Castillo or Sean McDermott?
Why did we downgrade from Sean to Juan?
If I recall correctly we almost beat Green Bay last year and we were the NFC East Champs. The problem we had was that Dimitri,Hanson & Harris just flat out sucked. If we had our defence from last year plus our CB’s from this year our defence would be perfect. Last year we stopped the run it was our garbage CB’s that sucked (Hanson,Dimitri and Harris) to be exact. The combination of Bunkly&Patterson worked great against the run.
If Sean McDermott had the luxury of Nnamdi & DRC helping Asaunte it would of been a SB Victory. Another thing when Bradley got hurt last year Chaney filled that gap even better than Bradley IMO so why put Casey Matthews at MLB? I looked at his college footage and came to the conclusion that he is just average nothing more and nothing less. That’s what happens when we play the name game. Casey is not Clay just like Eli is not Peyton, FACT!!! Now as far as Allen he needs to be put back at his natural position of FS and let our new guy Jarret play his natural position at S. I like this Jarret dude more then Allen and Coleman combined! Jarret is fast, smart and a big hitter. As far as Juan Castillo I would rather have Sean back with our new weapons. Sean understood defence.Why was Juan Blitzing on 3rd and long? Please answer that one somebody! Nnamdi Asaunte and DRC under the coaching of Juan Castillo is like a race car without a driver! As far as recievers it has to be Jackson,Maclin,Avant and Smith because that right their is a nightmare to any defensive coach. I hate to say it but Cooper and Vick don’t have a good chemistry don’t let the B-More game fool you. And Chad hall just sucks those passes were intercepted because he’s just a poor target. I seen Freshman HS recievers play better then him. I like McCoy but I like Lewis even more. Give this guy more carries and see for yourself he’s a monster at 5’8. Btw he picks up the blitz better then McCoy. Think Jones-Drew when you see Lewis. C’mon Eagles lets get it together!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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and really? Asaunte?
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Seriously,
what the fuck is this noise? You want McDermott back?
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You went that far? I stopped at “Why did we downgrade from Sean…”
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by Imp on Aug 19, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed Mcdermott is an absolute joke
he wont be missed
Come at me when you grow out of your pampers Newbie
Hey Mr. 14 comments, how about you count your self lucky that all I did was point out your typos. But, since you called down the thunder, let’s see what else you had to say:
Why did we downgrade from Sean to Juan?
Because we had the worst red zone defense in 20 years, and our players were telling AR that the defense was too complicated. Any defense that asks your best pass rusher, and one of the top 4-3 DEs in the league to drop back into zone coverage is fucking stupid.
I looked at his college footage and came to the conclusion that he is just average nothing more and nothing less.
And what makes your opinion matter? Are you a professional scout? Do you have any credentials whatsoever that lends credibility to your conclusions?
Now as far as Allen he needs to be put back at his natural position of FS and let our new guy Jarret play his natural position at S
If you were any kind of real fan, you would know that he has only switched positions in name, not in responsibility. He is being asked to do the same things he was last year.
I like McCoy but I like Lewis even more. Give this guy more carries and see for yourself he’s a monster at 5’8. Btw he picks up the blitz better then McCoy.
This is the most ridiculous statement I have read today, and that includes BBV asshat Shaunthegiant having the balls to talk about Eagles fans being fair weather after the Giants fanbase went ballistic with hate-mongering when Smith signed with the Eagles. Not even worth a rebuttal, as I would have to dumb myself down to the point where I would probably walk directly into oncoming traffic.
BGN is a place for self-respecting Eagles fans. Utilizing the English language properly plays a part in that.
Come back at me bro, I will be eagerly anticipating your response. Clown.
Hey dumbass
Pick a game from last year that looked worst than the Steelers/Eagles last night.
Go ahead i’m still waiting! Btw don’t tell me what BGN is a place for self righteous piece of shit. You don’t own the site you dumb fuck, I gave my opinion and you got upset so go f yourself buddy!
Stupid ass
preseason gives you a heads up on how bad or good your team is and what adjustments need to be made, but you guys think it’s ok to suck just because it’s preseason but if that’s the case why even play it if it don’t matter? Why risk players getting hurt if it don’t matter? Like that stupid play Vick made to stop Troy he could of fucked up his neck. The reason Vick stopped him is because even he knows preseason matters stupid ass!
The reason Vick stopped him is because even he knows preseason matters stupid ass!
Throwing himself, head and neck first into a tackle, was THE WORST POSSIBLE DECISION HE MADE ALL FUCKING NIGHT.
He put himself in a position to be hurt, and to be hurt bad, and for what, stopping an interception return in the second pre-season game with about 2 minutes left in the first half?
You have just shown everyone on here that you do not, in any way, shape or form, understand anything about the game of football. Go back to whatever it was that you were doing yesterday and before and leave the Eagles talk to the grown-ups.
Congratulations, you win the dumbest comment of the day award.
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by phillies0100 on Aug 19, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Well you took it for an eternity fuckface.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
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Yeah I guess a PhD and a JD means I rode the short bus. Nice try fella.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Good luck trying to get message board doofs
to respect your real-life accomplishments
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Yeah I hear ya.
I’m not trying to brag, or really prove a point so much as to say that making wild and outlandish claims is usually not the best way to conduct one’s business. But then again, the people usually doing that won’t really understand logic as it is so it’s pointless on my part to even bother. So like you said…“good luck…”
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Today is your first day posting, you may want to take a little time and learn how to behave yourself clown. And you are definitely a clown. Bring back McDermott? What a joke.
What does last year have to do with this year? Besides, the TENN game was a disaster that actually counted, unlike last night which was a pre-season game. Earning W’s isn’t the primary objective in the pre-season. Staying healthy, staying healthy and staying healthy are. Learning what your team can do in certain situations is also important.
I look forward to mocking you on a regular basis, as will the rest of the regular BGNers that have been here for awhile and see your child-like ramblings for what they are, fucking retarded.
by The Reddgie on Aug 19, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
maybe we should all agree with just you
and then and only the then BGN would be a perfect site right? loser
It was pretty good yesterday. I wonder why? Oh, because retarded asshat’s like you were nowhere to be found.
Go suck on a tailpipe with the engine running. That is the only way you could make a positive difference in this world.
You're right.
Picking lint hair out of my belly button is better use of my time.
Keep picking lint hair out of your belly button and..
when your done pick it out your ass, now you could leave!
My mom would whoop your pansy ass up and down the street like she was a pit bull and you were a poodle.
How many times can people use that washed up played out line?
Your just lame, pickup your game buddy lol, u corny
Preseason dude
Born in North Carolina; raised a Philly fan
by CarolinaGreen on Aug 19, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It is his first day. Literally. That would explain his behavior. Must have come here from philly.com
i know right
this guy makes me feel much better about myself
Born in North Carolina; raised a Philly fan
by CarolinaGreen on Aug 19, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I seriously have a lot better things to do than spar with an idiot (he has a post below where he says that Vick did a good job risking injury on the Int return tackle because preseason matters).
I wonder what troll he used to be. He had to have created a new login.
lol
i saw that. He has the football IQ of a rock. Nice work though letting him have it
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by CarolinaGreen on Aug 19, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Last night put me in a feisty mood today, or else I would probably just ignore someone of that ilk. Looking back at it, I should have spent my time on more productive activities, but oh well, live and learn.
feel better
Knowing that it produced many laughs and head shakes
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by CarolinaGreen on Aug 19, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
dude
you have to make me stop laughing so hard
Born in North Carolina; raised a Philly fan
by CarolinaGreen on Aug 19, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW
One game we lose by 10 IN PRESEASON, and you want Sean McDermit back! LMAO!
Every time a Cowboy hates, an Eagle gets his wings.
by Spurs Yoda on Aug 19, 2011 1:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
SIBTJ
Η κόλαση δεν έχει μυστικά
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Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger.
-Glen Cook The Black Company
Keep sippin' that dumbass kool-aid
News flash: when you don’t know who the resident idiot is…it’s you.
by cwel87 on Aug 19, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yea thats what we all want
Trent Cole and Jason Babin dropping back into coverage and poorly timed blitzes that wouldnt get home…
by Matthew Krawcheck on Aug 19, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Youre one of those...
The guy that thinks they have all the answers and the insights that nobody else has, fact is mcdermott was tutored under one of the best defensive coordinators for how long? And when it’s his turn to run the d what does he do? Acts like a paraplegic cuz he was on his knees blowing the game. You can’t say that he would do better with the new players because it would still be the same scheme. that’s not even taking into account his terrible in game adjustments (were there any?). Get off mcdermott’s nuts or go be a panthers fan if you love his scheme so much
by Matthew Krawcheck on Aug 19, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this entire thread is exhibit A that you, in fact, do not have any better ideas.
(Don’t worry, if you get stuck you can just fall back on mom jokes or name calling.)
by ATG. on Aug 20, 2011 3:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Although
I agree about blitzing on 3rd and 24. I wouldn’t even do that on madden.
Every time a Cowboy hates, an Eagle gets his wings.
by Spurs Yoda on Aug 19, 2011 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
QUICK everyone listen to the newb
stfu with this heaping pile of dog shit
"if you’re going to act like bitches, then I will treat you like bitches". - AR
Do you hear that? That's the sound of the media ramming the Miracle at the New Meadowlands down your throat for the rest of your life...BAHAHAHAHA....
What is with me and the insults?
What are you blind? “theaction” called me a “heaping pile of dog shit” but you only caught my comeback so figure out the year yourself.
No I get why you insulted him.
(Though, in his defense, he only called your post a “heaping pile of dogshit”. He just called you a newb.)
What I was questioning was your specific use of “your mom” as an insult. You’ve done it like 3 or 4 times. It stuck out to me as strange.
I don't know what else to say that hasn't been said.
If you really think our defense was acceptable last year, I question whether or not you actually paid attention last year. We were not good. Aside from Chaney and Fokou occasionally our LB’s were terrible. McD had our best defensive player (Cole) doing things that he isn’t good at while keeping him from doing the things he is best at. That makes no sense at all.
And clearly you aren’t paying very good attention when you say Jackson, Maclin, Avant and Smith. Well yea, of course. Problem with that is that Smith isn’t ready yet. I’m sure once he is he will get PT. Until then Cooper will get some time and he is fully capable of being #4. He is fast with good hands. And Vick got picked off because Chad Hall sucks? Look, Chad Hall is not Randy Moss, but Vick threw all three picks into at least double-coverage. They were his fault, not the receivers.
And Lewis over McCoy? After two preseason games? After a season where McCoy proved to be among the better RB’s in the entire league?
It’s the preseason. It really doesn’t matter. There is a reason starters only play a series or a quarter and never play at all in the fourth preseason games. You are putting waaaaaaay too much stock in one half of a meaningless game. How about we wait and see how things look once the actual season starts?
Really
idiotic to say most of those things, but to say Riley and Vick dont have chemistry? WTH?? really?
Fly Eagles Fly and watch the cowgirls cry.
by MV, add the P on Aug 19, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It was one game, but I would rather have Chaney at MLB then Matthews.
Every time a Cowboy hates, an Eagle gets his wings.
by Spurs Yoda on Aug 19, 2011 1:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Deff. agree
Chaney’s a beast, I don’t care where they put him
"A true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights and fights and then fights some more, because surrender is death, and death is for pussies." - Kenny Fuckin Powers
by I3irdMan3901 on Aug 19, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Move Him...
Move em outside and we’re set I think he will be a good ball player pedigree, smarts, blah blah blah he just needs some time to work and he should be an outside backer. Secondly GREAT STUFF FROM EAGLES4lyfe couldn’t agree with you more on that COORDINATOR post!! One thing I disagreed with was the Coleman part. This guy Kurt is a tackle machine and is quick enough and strong enough to make bigtime plays. Allen ehhh… Im not so thrilled and I def. like the thought of Jaiqwan getting a shot in there.
Why move chaney wasnt he playing well last year?
Vince been here less than a month and already done ****ed up
smh (dream team)
The responsibilities of the LBs have been altered from last year, that is why. Chaney is our best cover LB and they want him on the TEs, which is why he was moved to SAM. The MIKE is going to be dropping back into zone coverage more this year, which is something Chaney struggled with last year.
by The Reddgie on Aug 19, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I remember at ou clayton was pretty good at coverage
and that goes for rolle too. Why not play them
Vince been here less than a month and already done ****ed up
smh (dream team)
by allmaddenking on Aug 19, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
If either of them are better at shedding blocks, then they should get a shot, but it is too early to give up on Casey. Had Patterson and Dixon been playing, who are our best run stuffing DTs, then I would be really worried.
As I posted above, I want to know if Casey’s struggles were due to poor technique or due to being too small and/or not strong enough.
srry bout the o
Typing on a smart phone is a bitch sometimes
by nyeaglesfan624 on Aug 19, 2011 2:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dont think we should give up on Casey either
But we should switch him with Chaney until he gets better at shedding blocks. Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that Casey is good in coverage so having him cover the tight end should work while Chaney is decent at breaking up the run. (From what I remember from last year at least)
by nyeaglesfan624 on Aug 19, 2011 2:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
While I like Casey and think he will be a good to great MIKE, if he can’t do that sooner rather than later, than a switch absolutely needs to be made. With the penetrating style of the Wide 9, whoever is playing LB, regardless of whether it is MIKE, SAM or WILL, will have to be able to shed blocks to make tackles.
I thought that the MIKE was going to be dropping back into zone coverage regularly and the SAM was going to be manning up the TE, which is why they moved Chaney to SAM in the first place. But, if Matthews (or Clayton or Rolle or Lloyd or whomever) can cover the TE, then our run defense will probably be better off with Chaney at MIKE.
Thanks for contributing, you can leave now.
by The Reddgie on Aug 19, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this guy
Born in North Carolina; raised a Philly fan
by CarolinaGreen on Aug 19, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, why are you even on here?
If what everybody is saying is wrong and you’re the only one that’s right why do you even talk to us? We’re not going to budge, we’re not going to change just because you claim something.. You’re not going to win any friends here.
Why don’t you just go back to yardbarker where the rest of the hacks go?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I have.
Retardation.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Matthews
He played wayy out of sorts on the pass coverage
Fly Eagles Fly and watch the cowgirls cry.
by MV, add the P on Aug 19, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s see how he does against a team that isn’t allowed to use illegal blocks.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
by KByars on Aug 19, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
AGREED HERE
Def not great play by any means but some plays he could’ve made without blocks in the kidney.
Couple of things...
I like Matthews, but I am not sure if a small, fast and inexperienced lb is good in the Washburn system. Meaning: if the de’s are wide and the dt’s are going straight to the qb( which I really like how Jenkins does this), then the middle lb takes on a lot of responsibilty and a lot of real estate. I think lofa could anchor the middle really well for this new defensive front.
by Saidrick on Aug 19, 2011 1:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
for the last time
Since when is 6 1" 243lbs small?!?!?!?!? He was injured before the combine and couldn’t lift and has since put the weight back on.
by VRFC8 on Aug 19, 2011 2:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I just checked pe.com, espn and wiki. They all list his weight at 232 or 231.
by Saidrick on Aug 19, 2011 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like him on the outside , just not in the middle given the demands of washburns def. Front.
by Saidrick on Aug 19, 2011 3:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good Stuff... it's funny
How little people understand what you wrote here Saidrick… WASHBURN’S SYSTEM has changed everything. There are no more run stuffing tackles, that’s why Jenkins was brought in to start. I believe they were/are going to look at Dixon at nose because he’s a penetrator and he also put on alot of weight to take on the double. These DT’s are rushing upfield on EVERY PLAY. Look at old Titan film, the DT’s weren’t holding up guards and the ALL the TITANS LB’s were Big and Physical. I understand that Chaney can cover the TE man for man but I think he should be moved back an SAM can be replaced easier by others on the team than trying to bring someone in at this time. He has the physical style of play necessary for this Defense and has showed it may times last year.
Its a shame these forums have too many "cheerleaders" and people who get most of their LOL "football knowledge" from the talking heads in the media, and not from individual study. How I wish there were more people with actual football acumen that can forward the conversation and advance the sport...
Bottom line
It’s pre season, ALL vanilla play calls. NO ONE got injured… I agree we need to be a little concerned. But lets see Juan coach a season before we start calling for McD back lol
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
by Joe_D on Aug 19, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The fact that people are calling for the return of McDermott, especially after the way half the locker room threw him under the biggest bus they could find after last season, is quite disturbing to say the least.
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no one is calling for McDermott. The only one is a dude that’s posted here 7 times and 4 of them are that dumbass paragraph seen above
The Jruth shall be told.
The fact that person is calling for the return of McDermott, especially after the way half the locker room threw him under the biggest bus they could find after last season, is quite disturbing to say the least.
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Yeah, especially since we were up against an offense whose strength is one of our biggest defensive weaknesses – power running.
Castillo and Reid aren’t slouches. They know what they need to do and they’ll do it, no question.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by alcatraz0109 on Aug 19, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, yes. Because the Steelers are totally worse than the Redskins in actuality.
That was a preseason game. Just like this was a preseason. They do not matter. Hell, sometimes coaches tell players in preseason games to fuck up on purpose just to see what happens and how other teammates react. We really can’t put much stock, if any, in these games.
Think 3rd place.
Steve Smith is the Judas Iscariot of NYG Football
we've replaced waaayyy better players than him
they can't stop us
SMASHMOUT
by Shaunthegiant on Aug 19, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
HA HA HA. Are you fucking kidding me clown? We’ll see at the end of the year who is playing in the post season (yet again), and who is making excuses for their mouth breathing QB and his league leading interception total (yet again) and for the defense not showing up when the team really needed them (and yet again for a 3rd time).
is this bizarro world?
Jodie is talking sense
I would like to thank my hands for being so great, for allowing me to type this post.
by corn on the kolb on Aug 19, 2011 7:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why all the HATE?!?!?!
Wow!!! What did Casey do to piss everyone off? He wasn’t sharp, that’s for sure. But he is a young rookie playing in only his second game, first on the road, against one of the best offensive lines in NFL! Also of note, look at the box score….tho its not all telling, only six of the 31 def players had more tackles than he did! half of those were safeties……don’t blame Casey alone….blame the whole front. Overhyped Def if you ask me. He may not be CLay, but clay didn’t exactly dominate from day one either. Give the kid a little time…..u will be happy to have him. Having the Matthews name doesn’t make u great…but he is from good pedigree, high football IQ, and strong work ethic….he will factor…..just relax
by O time on Aug 19, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think it’s hate as much as concern that he isn’t up to the task right now and this isn’t a rebuilding team that can let him learn on the job.
And responding to someone who watches the film and breaks down every play to see whether he did his job with “oh yeah, well the box score says he was 7th on the team in tackles” isn’t a terribly compelling response.
Obviously Box Scores don’t tell all……..made that point……point is that watched the game….none of the backers looked very good…..whole defense looked overmatched. Bigger problems than just MLB. I agree he should play backup for a few weeks….but I do think he should be getting reps in pre-season. This guy is their future backer, most likely. Don’t rush him, but don’t railroad him. Someone made the point….not like there are a lot of options better floating around out there, at least not that you won’t have to overpay.
Did you just join the site to specifically defend Casey’s honor?
by andyreidswaistline on Aug 19, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m with you that Matthews wasn’t the only player who struggled. And I’m with you that he should continue to get reps and that it may be hard to find anyone better at this point.
From what we’ve seen so far, I’m very nervous about having him in there this year and starting to become skeptical about him as the future, but it’s obviously too early to know. It’s still less than one game’s worth of snaps, after all, but his run-stopping skills are starting to look really troublesome. I don’t think that is HATE, just a dispassionate assessment.
Disagree
I disagree, Chaney had a good game. He was around the ball, shed the O-linemen…B-
Fly Eagles Fly and watch the cowgirls cry.
by MV, add the P on Aug 19, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a rook and this is all true,except Clay had 10.5 sacks year one and was a beast rookie.
Just remember as with all teams,there are fair-weather fans.
Steve Smith is the Judas Iscariot of NYG Football
we've replaced waaayyy better players than him
they can't stop us
SMASHMOUT
by Shaunthegiant on Aug 19, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Get the fuck out clown. After the disgusting display of hatred that the Giants fanbase provided when Steve Smith signed with the Eagles, you are going to have the balls to talk about us having fair-weather fans?!?!? Again, GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE CLOWN!!!!
And Clay and Casey are two completely different types of players, but I wouldn’t expect you to realize something like that. That would take insight and intelligence, both of which I am quite certain you are in short supply of.
What the fuck is a 'smashmout'
It makes you sound like a preppy white suburban moron who thinks he has roots in the ’hood.
Trust me. You don’t.
not to the defend the vagiant...
but i beleive its an italian mafia thing… like in “My Cousin Vinny” : The two yutes! Smashmout!
Get it? eh, fahgitaboutit!
by thePurpleLion on Aug 19, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Casey is the FNG.
A couple years ago Justice was the FNG. He took a while to get to speed and no one believed in him. Dunlap was last years FNG. He seems to have pulled it together to be a mostly acceptable backup. Coleman was a FNG when he was getting all kinds of boneheaded penalties. He sure played fine last night.
It sucks to be the Fucking New Guy. He’ll either get up to speed or get gone.
Whoever you are, when I log off, you cease to exist.
"Good? bad? I’m the one with the gun." - Bruce Campbell in The Army of Darkness
by IggleGreen on Aug 19, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Perhaps you missed it
What did Casey do to piss everyone off?
He blew ass in a live half of football
why all the favortism!?!?!
honestly, hes a 4th round pick and a part of a famous football family. What has he done on the field to impress you enough to want him as the MLB as the philadelphia eagles? take out the name mathews for a second… hes an undersized guy with average speed and muffs on alot of decisions <that is your starting MLB at the moment. This is the nfl not kiddie league football, everyone on the field should be past the give it time stage especially playing with the 1’s.
PHI "We Know Drama"
by DaaaBirdsDaBirds on Aug 19, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Vick is making me a little worried. 3 interceptions in 2 quarters?? I didn’t see the last two but he should have know better on the first one. Why does this guy have so much faith in Riley Cooper?
Also I can’t believe the Eagles would draft a guy in the 4th round and declare him a starter before TC even started. Especially since there were no mini camps. What other team would spend 12 million on a 30 yr old CB, 5 million on a 31 year old DE, 5 million 31 year old DT, and pencil in a 4th round draft pick as their MLB prior to TC even starting?
Shit doesn’t make sense Pete
Cooper definitely hitched his stride when he looked back for the ball and made it an easy uncontested INT. It wasn’t a good pass by any means, but KC Joyner would have expected it to be intercepted about 30% of the time, and the way Cooper misplayed the ball turned that into 80+%.
CONFUSED
The ball was thrown terrible…. Is that being pinned on Riley Cooper? Or am I missing something?
Or am I missing something?
Yes, probably the part of my comment where I said “it wasn’t a good pass by any means” and that the throw created a high chance for an interception. And perhaps also the part of the play where Cooper’s hitched stride turned a bad pass from a potential interception into a certain one.
If Cooper runs through his route and makes a play at the ball, you would’ve seen the play as risky but not atrocious. Cooper made it look worse than it was — and it wasn’t good to start.
Just to help you see what I’m saying, take a look at this video, four seconds in, look at how Cooper completely hitches as he crosses his own ~46 or 47 yard line, then runs behind Clark. If he runs through the ball and jumps for it, it’s a lot less likely Clark makes the pick.
Not absolving Vick, by any means. The throw was bad. But Cooper made it look a lot worse than it was.
You have a good eye for nuance
Riley could have turned that into a breakup. Easy to say when we’ve had time to look at it and react, but if we’re gonna use Riley for jump ball type passes, he has to jump. And learn when to just say F it, this down is lost but let’s not have a turnover, and play DB.
/not absolving Vick font
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
I was also far more disappointed in Vick’s and Nate Allen’s performances.
I think all the years of watching Mark Simoneau and Matt McCoy has desensitized me to undersized white linebackers getting mauled by opposing guards and tight ends.
I’d like to kick the tires on Kirk Morrison and Lofa Tatupu… their availability
It's Strange
They seem to keep going this route when it’s continually been fruitless in the past. Must be something there
Its a shame these forums have too many "cheerleaders" and people who get most of their LOL "football knowledge" from the talking heads in the media, and not from individual study. How I wish there were more people with actual football acumen that can forward the conversation and advance the sport...
Looked to me...
like he was working on his touch passes. He was floating alot of his throws.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Aug 19, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I get nervous every time I see a “floating” pass. It feels like the DB has a better chance to catch up and make a play on the ball.
by The Pied Piper on Aug 19, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
if you don't have anything smart to say then don't say it at all
neither one of those interceptions were the receivers fault. They were poorly thrown balls. Cooper is going to be a beast and hall well, he’s ok.
Born in North Carolina; raised a Philly fan
by CarolinaGreen on Aug 19, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Vick fully admitted he was pressing and forcing the issue because half-time was approaching.
With the team down two scores and him only having a quarter or so left to play he wanted to get back in the game. I’m not worried about it at all really. He’s not going to have the same mentality in a regular season game.
Thanks
Piper for addressing my main concern with this team besides making sure McGlynn never plays center ever again. Riley Cooper represents something that Vick needs but unfortunately Cooper is not good enough at this point to be exacly what Vick needs, and that’s a problem. A major problem. A problem they could have solved(still could) in free agency.
Its a shame these forums have too many "cheerleaders" and people who get most of their LOL "football knowledge" from the talking heads in the media, and not from individual study. How I wish there were more people with actual football acumen that can forward the conversation and advance the sport...
probably underscores some flaws in their game or unresolved injury issues, but Casey is not inspiring much confidence. couldn’t hurt to add some veteran experience to create some competition and depth at LB.
It looked to me like he almost has kind of a tunnel vision thing going on. Kind of like he locks on to who has the ball and doesn’t see the blocks coming.
I’m pretty sure there were a few times I saw him try to go around a blocker and the guy would just give him a shove sideways out of the play.
He needs to get better at seeing the blockers and attacking them rather than try to skirt around them.
Agreed
I did see Matthews get locked up ALOT 3-5 yards behind the line and couldnt shake the blocker in time to get tot he runner. Also has to “feel” for where the play is going. One play in the 1st quarter, there are no RBs, it’s 3rd and forever and He’s playing the line. His responsibility was 5-8 yard pass, he steps up and the ball is caught right behind Casey for a 10+ yard gain.
Fly Eagles Fly and watch the cowgirls cry.
by MV, add the P on Aug 19, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG, WE'R SEW DOOMMED!!!11!!!
NO ONE WINS THE SUPER BOWL AFTER DROPPING A PRESEASON GAME
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by w-w-JJ-d on Aug 19, 2011 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
quick!!!
everyone run around in circles and panic!!!
by awd777 on Aug 19, 2011 3:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Seriously, bro
go back to whatever hole you crawled out of. You add no value.
This is where I’d come up to some punk kid, put my hand on his shoulder, and politely say “Go home, bro.”
"I don’t know whether I prefer Astroturf to grass. I never smoked Astroturf." - Joe Namath
I have seen a total
of three people actually freaking out. We just pointed out that he had a horrible individual effort. I don’t think many of us care that we lost. We are concerned because he didn’t play up to starting NFL MLB standards. I think that’s a pretty accurate statement.
"I don’t know whether I prefer Astroturf to grass. I never smoked Astroturf." - Joe Namath
I guess we shouldn't talk about anything then
all the smart asses that keep reminding us that it’s preseason. So since it’s pre season let’s go talk about next years draft or something since pre season is CLEARLY not even worth talking about
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
we need to talk about the draft
because we suck so bad we are going to have the first pick, we should take Andrew Luck, then trade all of our players, except Lewis, for the 2 pick and take a MLB then with vick and matthews gone and with lewis as our RB we wont even need any other players and we are all set…./sarc /rant
meant as a joke for those who put too much meaning into the preason
not for you because obviously we have to talk about something
Preseason Preseason
Team wise:
In 2008 Lions went 4-0 in the preseason…
They went 0-16 the rest of the year.
As Jason pointed out, any other year 21 days in Casey would still be in minicamps. He’s getting thrown into the fire right now. We need to bring a veteran in to AT LEAST compete for the starting job if not be brought in as a starter.
It’s alright to feel angry, pissed off, enraged at the way they played last night. I thought they were gonna go out and play some good football. Buuuuuuuut…
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
oh yeah
You cannot be a true eagles fan and not tell me last night’s game didn’t piss you off. But at the end of the day, the most important thing of preseason, no one got hurt (seriously anyway).
The Cinci game last year was nearly identical to this
I see people referencing the 2008 lions all the time regarding the preseason.
Yes, they won all of their games in the preseason and lost all of their regular season games and thus we don’t take much into account if a team loses. However, problematic areas in the preseason can still be problematic areas during the regular seas. You can lose all of your games in the preseason and lose all of your games during the regular season if you don’t take notice.
In other words, give him 1 more shot and then throw him out if he still sucks.
by Off The Hook on Aug 19, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
makes sense, but...............
statistically first teamers vs teamers is the beginning of the season….starts in the preseason. Garbage time means nothing……
So starters vs starters was Pittsburgh 14 Philly 0
That is….Pittsburgh 28 Eagles 0 for a full game
I wish it were reversed, but it’s not Steelers 24-14 over the birds. WAKE UP…Stats don’t lie. Even in vanilla season.
The good thing is that we still have $2M in cap space:)
by eaglesphannn on Aug 19, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad logic:
So starters vs starters was Pittsburgh 14 Philly 0
That is….Pittsburgh 28 Eagles 0 for a full game
That assumes that the Eagles make no second half adjustments, which is silly assumption. That also doesn’t take into account that the Eagles coaches probably weren’t calling a highly tailored gameplan, but rather testing out specific sets, plays, etc. without adjusting too much to context. There is nothing gained by winning in the preseason, so the score isn’t important or even all that relevant.
by NOLACuse on Aug 19, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's about evaluating where we are three weeks prior to the start of the season
We need work. There are no more conclusions to draw.
There is zero point to read into it – the first stringers blew. Horribly. They need to adjust before the games matter, because this game didn’t matter.
by cwel87 on Aug 20, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really???
WOW….then how did we win the Giants game down what 28 to 10 with like 6 minutes left in the 4th quarter? Have you ever watched a football game….or Eagles game?
Every time a Cowboy hates, an Eagle gets his wings.
aware its "just preseason" but,
im not any more excited about this year than i have been in the past. they havent changed the team that much. they got a backup qb, backup rb, a wr that cant play til week 8, backup linemen except jenkins and harris who is now hurt, and the one upgrade they did make, at cb, they now have one too many. they have terrible safeties, terrible linebackers, and their kicker and punter are rookies, and their o-line is not that good. theyre lucky they have vick, mccoy, jackson, and maclin, and trent cole or else this team would go nowhere
u realize after "they havent changed the team much"
you wrote almost 2 lines of new additions
and that’s just starters and backups duhh we dunnnt change der tem mooch
hmm
2 defensive backs, 1 starting DE starting DTs or at least rotation DTs sharing 50% of the time, oh yeah and this MLB named mathews.
by my math thats 6 of 11 players on defense or 54% and even if you take the rotational DTs while theyre out your still at 36%.
im going to say thats a good portion of the defense.
PHI "We Know Drama"
by DaaaBirdsDaBirds on Aug 19, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah
theyve also added 3 starters on offense (harris, watkins, and smith) so that brings us to 9 of 22 players or 41% of both sides of the ball…
you loose
PHI "We Know Drama"
by DaaaBirdsDaBirds on Aug 19, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT?!?!?
You dont think Nnamdi will make a diff? instead of Dimiti?
You dont think Babin will make a diff? instead of Parker?
You dont think Jenkins will make a diff? instead of Bunkley?
You dont think Watkins will make a diff? instead of Justice?
You dont think Ronnie Brown will make a diff? instead of Harrision or Buckely?
You dont think DRC will make a diff? instead of Hanson?
You dont think Castillo will make a diff? instead of McDermott?
You dont think Washburn will make a diff?
You dont think Mudd will make a diff?
You dont think that having depth behind the existing starters is smart?
I want whatever it is you are smokin man!!
by thePurpleLion on Aug 19, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
insert
glow in the dark wall paper with a skull on it and conversations about end of the world theories.
PHI "We Know Drama"
by DaaaBirdsDaBirds on Aug 19, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m really not too concerned
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by phillies0100 on Aug 19, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
did you not watch the game? They sucked big time!!
by rogerwhitedorcett on Aug 19, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Bragging about a preseason game? Grow up, and go back to the Cowboys’ blog, while you’re at it.
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by phillies0100 on Aug 19, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Pre-season troll. Now that we know what we need to work on, improvement will be had.
At least our QB isn’t playing hide the salami and go seek with a bunch of grown men in a pitch black room. Or maybe that is how Cowboys fans define a “good time.”
good luck but from what i saw its just bad football there was no positive to take from that game. sorry
by rogerwhitedorcett on Aug 19, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
read my above post, please. the one with just 2 words, specifically.
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by phillies0100 on Aug 19, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
As a Cowboys fan
I am sure you are an expert in bad football.
And the positive is that we didn’t suffer any major injuries and we learned what needs to be improved.
I've used that line a couple times today
I’m respecting Steelers, Patriots and Packers fans for the time being, but if a Cowboys fan pipes up … Dafugaddherewiddatshit!
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Yea I said the same thing and a bunch of little chumps got mad
I’m 100% Eagles fan but I’m not going to act blind
Dude, greenage is being sarcastic.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Steelers were mad from previous week, they played hard and played better
Maybe Matthews is only a situational LB, but probably too soon to tell. If this is a need area, why not trade up next year and draft the #1 guy available?
Oh NOOO!! The 2nd coming of Mark Simoneau!
That empty middle of the field was reminiscent of our former leading tackler who used to remind me of a scarf trying to tackle the big Tight End. They’d eventually fall down and Simoneau would be recorded with a tackle after he was dragged for the first down. Can somebody please turn back Jeremiah Trotter’s clock?
The Eagles 2011 defense will be improved greatly!
by Lombardi and Broad on Aug 19, 2011 8:38 PM EDT reply actions
After watching the game again I think one of these absolutely has to be done on Nate Allen. I’m not sure what the coverages are supposed to be in certain situations, but he seemed out of place a lot. Why is he so list this year when we were supposed to be simplifying things.
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Aug 19, 2011 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
The one thing I take away from this thread is
eagles4lyfe is a dumbass
Last name Ever
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by Djax10 on Aug 20, 2011 2:07 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I actually started scrolling just looking for his comments. They make me smile.
by ATG. on Aug 20, 2011 4:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
mattews was purposley picked on by the steelers
they did wat the packers did to us attacked r weak spot the middle except this time they didnt have any weak cbs to pick on so im not so dissapointed in mattews were gonna be seein this all season long teams are gonna pick on r weak spots
by luck0fth31r1sh on Aug 20, 2011 9:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
[picture of light bulb]
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
theres not much out there anymore better than wat we got
as far as i no anyway
by luck0fth31r1sh on Aug 20, 2011 9:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I can't wait till we ( the G-Men) play yall this season
and i hope we send every one of them arrogant Iggles to the training room. I’m not coming with disrespect either, we owe yall for those six straight losses. I’m glad to see Vick back in the league though and doing well, all the haterz need to lay off my dude, but when we play yall i don’t wanna see him do well.
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