Caplan: Eagles In Pursuit Of LB Stephen Tulloch
by JasonB on Jul 27, 2011 4:14 PM EDT
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PrintAdam Caplan is reporting that the Eagles and Lions are in pursuit of Titans' free agent LB Stephen Tulloch. The middle linebacker has ties to both teams with former Titans assistants Jim Schwartz and Jim Washburn. The 5-11, 240 pound 26-year old had a bit of a breakout last year finishing second in the NFL with 160 tackles.
He does fit the mold of an Eagles target quite well. A younger player just entering his prime who has established himself as a standout starter. On the other hand, the Eagles targeting one of the top linebackers on the market? That's not something we ever get to say. Certainly adding the productive and durable Tulloch to the center of the defense would be an upgrade over Stewart Bradley and add a veteran presence to a young LB corps.
Tulloch is mulling his offers as we speak, tweeting this morning, "Decisions,Decisions,Decisions....Feels like being drafted all over again..."
The Lions have reportedly made Tulloch their top free agent priority and they have similar cap space to the Eagles. Their initial offer included over $10 mil in guaranteed money, so at this point they probably have to be considered the favorite.
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But can’t post FanShots from where I am…
Curtis Marsh officially signed
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
Nevermind, someone got it.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Caplan just tweeted
I’m not a betting man, but wouldn’t be surprised if the Lions win the bidding on Tulloch. I’ll leave it at that.
I think that's part of the reason the Eagles haven't done much in FA so far..
Some of these contracts are flat out ridiculous, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Tulloch got wayyyy more cash from the Lions than he really should.
I’m sure the Eagles are very interested in a lot of players, they’re just probably not willing to spend the type of money that other teams are, considering the fact that they still need to pay Vick and DJ.
Caplan just tweeted
NFP reported Tulloch has a deal on the table for $10 guaranteed. I’m hearing the APY on that offer is really significant. Could be upwards of $6 mill per.
We dont have a chance
by NorthernEagle on Jul 27, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldnt be so sure. Eagles still have plenty of cash to spend and MIKE is a question mark on this team
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If Tulloch gets a 6mil/yr contract
I will go apeshit. We didn’t give Trotter that much and he made two pro bowls after we resigned him. So that would leave me very surprised.
"truTV is like BET for white folks." - Chuck
$10! Damn that’s some cheap shit. Let’s get two of him
by DLawrence55 on Jul 27, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
New DC
has different ideas about the relative value of the different positions than the last 2, it’s safe to assume.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
Any other LBs
That we could go after at this point? We’re gonna need one…unless Casey Matthews is the new Clay.
we can only hope
I went into the draft wishing they’d draft Casey. Worst case, he’ll be as good as Stew.
I take the "the" out of psychotherapist
Wow.. who would you rather play with? Vick, DeSean, and the pieces we have on defense, or those dominating defensive tackles, Stafford, and Megatron?
Wow.. who would you rather play with? Vick, DeSean, and the pieces we have on defense, or those dominating defensive tackles, Stafford, and Megatron?I think its actually a close call, all things considered. Still think i’d pick playoff chances (and better endorsement opportunities) over Detroit
I would like to thank my hands for being so great, for allowing me to type this post.
by corn on the kolb on Jul 27, 2011 4:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Alright, the remix is back
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by corn on the kolb on Jul 27, 2011 4:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’d go to the team that is on the verge of a Super Bowl, Lions are creeping up on a Wild Card but aren’t near the Super Bowl yet
Twitter- @kjbrophy
I think the money will determine who he goes with.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Would you rather live in Philly or Detroit?
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Jul 27, 2011 6:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That Lions Defense
Would start to become pretty damn stacked if he signed….. wow ..they are already pretty stacked…
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Honestly
They are already pretty scary.
by NorthernEagle on Jul 27, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
thats for sure. with tulloch there would be no running up the middle against the lions with those tackles and him to clean up.
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if you only knew
the true power of the green side…
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Speaking of scary, Nnamdi + Revis playing together?!
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
haha we'd find out how scary that is this year
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Jul 27, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't know too much about Tulloch
Scouting report? How good is he? What would he play here?
thats so wrong
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by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 27, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
But dont tell me you didnt chuckle??
Much love to the jewish people.
Cash in your Jew gold! Or offer some Jew gold to reel him into Philly!
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Jul 27, 2011 6:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
For some reason
I’m in a believe it when I see it kind of feel right now.
"truTV is like BET for white folks." - Chuck
We Need A Linebacker. The Rams are just signing away all of our defensive free agents
Les Bowen just tweeted
The Stew Bradley mystery might be clearing. St. Louis Post Dispatch reports Rams interested. #Eagles probably not psyched for Stew bid war.
Why would they go after Stew?
Laurinitis is without a doubt better, younger, and has better upside than Stew.
"truTV is like BET for white folks." - Chuck
Stew would play SAM for them
The first Drauschak.
by birds'n'raiders on Jul 27, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
sometimes I think that the first line on Spag’s resume is previous extensive scouting on the Eagle’s players.
There are a ton of ex-Eagles on that team now. Brandon Gibson, Amendola, Mikell, Stew…
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by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Jul 27, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Or....
Spags sees what JJ seen bc these are JJ’s players.
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-Sean McDermott
by birdsflyinhigh2590 on Jul 27, 2011 4:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Except the offensive players of course.
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by birdsflyinhigh2590 on Jul 27, 2011 4:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And hes gone....
Look what Caplan just tweeted
NFP reported Tulloch has a deal on the table for $10 guaranteed. I’m hearing the APY on that offer is really significant. Could be upwards of $6 mill per.\
No way the eagles are paying that much, it must be the lions.
Never know dude, the Eagles still havent dished out a lot of $$ to FAs
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True
I hope we get him, he would really help our d. Still, i think the Lions pretty much have him
by NorthernEagle on Jul 27, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Off Topic:
ESPN says Plax will likely wind up with either the Giants or Steelers.
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by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Jul 27, 2011 4:30 PM EDT reply actions
160 tackles, 1 sack, 1 INT, 6 Passes defended
I’ll take that undersized.
"truTV is like BET for white folks." - Chuck
His # of passes defended concerns me:
Stewart Bradley, Philadelphia Eagles
2010 Stats: 60 Tackles, 49 Solo, 1 Sack, 6 Passes Defended, 1 INT
Tackling upgrade, but isn’t Passes to TE’s our weakness that we’re trying to improve with MLB position?
Tackles
..are such an overrated stat. Washburn’s DL in Tennessee just charged upfield to stop the pass, meaning the MLB had a lot more responsibility (and opportunity) to rack up tackles on running backs. Also, lots of tackles can mean 1) the D is on the field a lot b/c they can’t force 3 and outs or turnovers and 2) the D lets a lot of plays develop and succeed before stopping them (as opposed to getting sacks, pass break-ups, etc).
by ChillBillinChina on Jul 27, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah..
Hopefully he can learn a little from vick, but i think he will still be a good backup
by NorthernEagle on Jul 27, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year, the theme was collecting over-the-hill RBs. (Parker, LJ)
This year it’s WRs.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Lot of people on twitter are saying that VY is becoming an Eagle, & they are calling him there bro & stuff & are from the Houston area.
Twitter- @kjbrophy
i would agree
but i just think of watching him sulk on the bench when Kerry Collins replaced him. The guy just looked like he had no interest in the team. I want to cheer for him, but I just cant make up my mind if he is too much of a head case.
Pressure
VY has always had a hard time when pressured….especially after since his idol passed away.
Coming here as a back up, he could really learn and thrive with Vick, Marty and Andy. Those guys take good care of their QBs. Plus, say Vick only has 1-2 years left….. VY could stil have 3-4 in the tank….. Its almost a no brainer… He fits this style of offense
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I think Vick is the perfect guy for him to be around at this point; Vick is a guy that wasn’t committed to the game and now he is. If VY can commit himself like Vick has, I think he can improve.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you guys think VY
Can get over the fact that hes gonna get boo’d in philly. Because he couldnt handle it in tennesee. Philly fans are fucking brutal
if true
deal will happen tomorrow. titans will officially cut vince young, eagles will sign him & make the trade with the cardinals. all while im on a 7 hour car ride.
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
R2C2!
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Jul 27, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
is he still alive ?
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by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 27, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at what Caplan just tweeted
Vick says he knows DeSean’s plan “but I can’t share that information.”
Whats that supposed to mean?
I could tell you, but I can’t share that information.
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
#EndTheLockout
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
holdout so he can miss some of training camp
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
R2C2!
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Jul 27, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Random but...
Eagles: RT @jaiquawnjarrett I’ll be rocking #26!!
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Mikesta on Jul 27, 2011 4:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yes on Vince Young
Everybody is a roll of the dice……VY could be a GREAT addition.
yes
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
#EndTheLockout
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
@Jeff McLane: That means Jarrett, Marsh, Henery, Rolle, Kelce, Matthews, Lewis, and Vandervelde will be at practice tomorrow.
I think Marsh
will be returning kicks for us. Former RB and crazy athlete? Could be a fit
+ probably safe to say Lloyd + Havili will be signed sometime soon
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#EndTheLockout
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Kelce?
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by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Jul 27, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
#EndTheLockout
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Walker, from Towson?
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 27, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Ye—- nice try!
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#EndTheLockout
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I was hoping. My agent hadnt called me yet. :(
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-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 27, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 27, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
What time is the press conference?
10 min?
Think the teams website will air it live?
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yes
if you can stand spadaro leading you into it…
Hey…
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
#EndTheLockout
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha sorry Dave
Im only jealous you have that as a job
I’m watching it on the Eagles FB page. Reid hasn’t cleared his throat at the mic yet.
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-d-jackfan10
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by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Jul 27, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
yet.
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
#EndTheLockout
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Also:
all picks that have signed (8 of 11) are signed to 4 year deals (standard)
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
#EndTheLockout
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 4:53 PM EDT reply actions
This would be excellent.
I would actually be excited for our LBs instead of anxious. If we get Tulloch, DRC +1/2 and VY I’d be happy with the offseason. Babin doesn’t excite me, but if he’s cheap, sure. If we can somehow land a motivated Fat Al, that would just be gravy.
However, I doubt we land Tulloch. It sounds like Detroit is going full-court press on him and I doubt the Eagles get into a bidding war over him.
Yup. Sounds like a Doug Free situation. Little rise in interest, but winds up staying put anyway
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 27, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope, Caplan corrected himself… 3 left. (Watkins, Lloyd, Havili)
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont know...
on the eagles chat thing on their website it says
Eagles Producer:
It’s official, the seventh-round picks are in … All players agreed to four year deals … Only Watkins left …
by NorthernEagle on Jul 27, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, OT
But with the Browns releasing Delhomme, what kind of chance might we see of them seriously inquiring about KK?
I’m still expecting the KK/DRC deal, but nothing is set in stone and I’ll never buy into an Eagles rumor 100%…
Reid on.
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-d-jackfan10
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by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Jul 27, 2011 4:59 PM EDT reply actions
… and the blog goes silent
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
R2C2!
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Jul 27, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
we have one thing Detroit doesnt
Mike Vick!! and a run at the SB – so sign with us and see where we go, that would be my pitch to him!!
Yea, that's a real surprise.
Lol
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
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Well, we’ll see.
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by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Jul 27, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If we dont get tulloch, I think adding james anderson of the panthers would be a good move. Anderson at will, Chaney at mike, and fokou at Sam.. not too shabby Philadelphia!
by green_pete_trucking on Jul 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Is it just me
or does it look like andy is a bit smaller this year
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
R2C2!
RIP JJ
“Glad to see you guys are still listening like you did before, that’s good.”
Snarky as ever Andy.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
well if Ruben is smug, Andy must be snarky
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jul 27, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s interesting. His snark annoys me because he doesn’t seem to care that reporters are just doing their jobs. But on the other hand, I am sure it’s annoying for him to get questions about subjects that he has clearly said he won’t discuss. So…yeah, it comes down to hilarity.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
So why would it be a reporter's job to ask a question that
Reid said ahead of time he will not answer? I would not want to pay someone to do that. It’s a waste of time.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Jason, when you said
He does fit the mold of an Eagles target quite well.
I assumed you were going to say he is coming off an acl injury :P
by captain nodar on Jul 27, 2011 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Sal Pal says that Desean is damaged goods due to his concussions… that’s why Eagles aren’t paying top dollar, but Eagles will work something out… but what happens the next time he gets knocked out…
and thats the thing with Desean
I love him on this team, they really need him, but:
1) – He’s a one trick pony
2) – He’s way undersized for a WR (in todays world)
and
3) – He is one hit away from being done (although that could be said of anybody in this league. But with his concussion history, and his size…..he is in the “higher risk” column
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Maybe we'll luck out...
And DeAndre Brown will dazzle so much in camp, he’ll take DeSean’s job and we can trade him before his next concussion.
The sarcasm is so thick that I can hardly breathe…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 27, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
#3--everyone is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrXuQUCpsUw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUIf5m0bgu0
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Everyone is …YES….but not everyone already has had some in the past ..and are less than 170 pounds
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Not everyone has been this productive in their first 3 years
Receiving
Year Team G Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st
2010 Philadelphia Eagles 14 47 1,056 22.5 75.4 91T 6 21 8 33
2009 Philadelphia Eagles 15 62 1,156 18.6 77.1 71T 9 18 10 40
2008 Philadelphia Eagles 16 62 912 14.7 57.0 60 2 17 2 43
TOTAL 45 171 3,124 18.3 69.4 91 17 56 20 116
Rushing
Year Team G Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+
2010 Philadelphia Eagles 14 16 1.1 104 6.5 7.4 1 31T 5 31.3 1
2009 Philadelphia Eagles 15 11 0.7 137 12.5 9.1 1 67T 5 45.5 2
2008 Philadelphia Eagles 16 17 1.1 96 5.6 6.0 1 21 5 29.4 1
TOTAL 45 44 1.0 337 7.7 7.5 3 67 15 34.1 4
Punt Return
Year Team G Ret RetY Avg Lng TD 20+ 40+ FC
2010 Philadelphia Eagles 14 20 231 11.6 65T 1 3 1 8
2009 Philadelphia Eagles 15 29 441 15.2 85T 2 7 3 15
2008 Philadelphia Eagles 16 50 440 8.8 68T 1 3 2 16
TOTAL 45 99 1,112 11.2 85 4 13 6 39 6
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Edit fail
We all know how productive he has been
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
What are you getting at?
All top receivers have good to great numbers. Even better than these ones. Even then, numbers don’t always tell you the whole story. When you invest in something you look at its history, the risk involved, the durability, the diversity and the potentiality. All those intangibles matter….
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Of course you look at those things.
His history says he deserves to be payed much more than the almost minimum he stands to make this year.
His durability is good – 3 games missed in 3 years.
His diversity is better than average – deep threat, able to turn a 10 yd out into an 88 yd TD vs division foe ( having some fun there ), end arounds ( no shit, he’s been successful ), killer on Punt Returns.
Potentiality? – There is no real need to improve on his part beyond just getting better at what he does. It’s up to the OC to use him better, if anything. If by potentiality you are intimating that he could get injured, I would say it’s a piss poor team that is afraid to pay a small player for that reason.
You left out "impact on the fan excitement/ league “buzz” factor. It is a business, and having a player who, many times every week is gushed about on national TV and radio as the most dangerous player in the league ( or something like that )is worth money to the franchise, now and down the road. It is also just something to feel proud of on the part of the FO. “We drafted DeSean Jackson and you didn’t”.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
While I do agree that Desean is not a ‘complete’ WR in the mold of Fitz or Megatron, he is more than a one trick pony. He is a bona fide game changer and other than arguably Chris Johnson, he is the most dangerous player in the NFL with the ball in space. I think he deserves something around 35-40 million over 5 years, with half of it guaranteed up front. For what he offers, I think that is a fair deal. However, I think Rosencock will not take that and there is a high probability that this will turn ugly.
Unlike Fitz, AJ and CJ, this is likely Desean’s one shot at a deal like this, as when he eventually loses a 1/2 step, the impact on his game will be far greater than when the aforementioned players lose a 1/2 step. While he is certainly a game changer now, by far his greatest asset is his speed and when he begins to lose even a bit of that speed, his production will come way down. Players like the 6’3" 220 Fitzgerald can easier compensate and adapt, extending their longevity and increasing the likelihood that they will get a t least one more payday when they are in their early thirties.
by captain nodar on Jul 27, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
he is the most dangerous player in the NFL with the ball in space
Thats the thing dude…he is not a RB. He has speed, thats about it. He doesnt have great hands. He is not even close to being physical. He’s not tall. He really his limited in his skill set. Not the skills he does possess are unreal, but he is kind of a one trick pony
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In MUDD I trust !!!
Alexander Wright was a one trick pony. Desean Jackson CHANGES GAMES.
by captain nodar on Jul 27, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool. How does that relate to anything I said in my argument? I swear, you guys just like to be contrary sometimes. Just for the hell of it.
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I am just trying to make the point that he is not a "one trick pony’, at least not in the traditional sense of the term. Many players have exceptional speed, but to be able to transfer that speed to the gridiron is another thing entirely.
Since at the end of the day we both want Desean as an Eagle, what do you think is a fair payday for him?
by captain nodar on Jul 27, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Well im not into getting into numbers. My whole arguments to this convo was that I could see why the FO wouldnt be giving him top WR#, just based on them, a business, valuing him, an asset.
I think he should get top 10, top 15 WR $$, but he’s not in the top 5 …just from a future value perspective
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In MUDD I trust !!!
at the end of the day, all our talk is moot
I just want to watch the team I love succeed, and to see as many high caracter, high respect, team guys on the team… The $$ side of it I could really careless as its not my $$ (other than you know, us paying for it through tickets and stuff but we dont control the salary caps)
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I think he should get top 10, top 15 WR $$, but he’s not in the top 5 …just from a future value perspective
I 100% agree.
by captain nodar on Jul 27, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
What was your argument?
That we should not pay him???
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
1) His “one trick” would be that he is the most serious threat in the NFL to score a TD whenever he gets the ball in his hands.
2) He’s also way fast for a WR ( in todays world ).
3) He is more at risk than the average WR to suffer a concussion because of his lack of mass.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
We'll see.
When he holds out of camp, the Eagles will fold like a tent.
Q: What do a leaky tampon and Sean McDermott's defense have in common?
A: They are equally ineffective in the red zone.
"If Roger Goodell was on fire and I had to piss on him to put him out, I wouldn't do it...I hate him and will never respect him."
--The often wrong (but right in this instance) James Harrison.
Sal Pal…performing his one duty on this planet: spreading the most unverifiable information possible. And doing it well.
by DLawrence55 on Jul 27, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Andy just said that Jamaal will be the starting center.
formerly jdcvr6
"When I'm dead and buried, and my time here has passed. I want them to bury me upside down, so my critics can kiss my ass." - Bob Knight
Translation: Someone not named Jamaal Jackson will be the starting center.
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed Andy Reid press conferences. Oh wait, no I didn’t
by Daniel Solomon on Jul 27, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Would you rather have the 45 minute long history lesson about analogies and the 49’ers slash Ford commercials with Jerry Jones?
"It's not going to make me try to hit you any harder, because I'm going to do that anyway." - Brian Dawkins
by TheRealMcCoy on Jul 27, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I didn’t expect him to say anything of great interest anyway. Just glad to see Andy is back in mid-season form
by Daniel Solomon on Jul 27, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
anti rex ryan
most of the time give the media nothing to work with
its true
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Still dont see it
Boomer Motha F****** Sooner
by allmaddenking on Jul 27, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
yay!
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/7/27/2298725/nate-clements-told-he-will-be
"On the flip side, though, Bleeding Green Nation cites a PFF study that says Jackson dropped the highest percentage of catchable passes (19.67 percent) of any receiver in the league last year. I think he also dropped that punt at the end of the last Giants game. But then he picked it back up."
Adam
Schefter just tweeted those reports are false. Team and Nate’s agent say it’s not true.
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
wellll
damn.
"On the flip side, though, Bleeding Green Nation cites a PFF study that says Jackson dropped the highest percentage of catchable passes (19.67 percent) of any receiver in the league last year. I think he also dropped that punt at the end of the last Giants game. But then he picked it back up."
Here's that link, instead
http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/96340865462706177
"On the flip side, though, Bleeding Green Nation cites a PFF study that says Jackson dropped the highest percentage of catchable passes (19.67 percent) of any receiver in the league last year. I think he also dropped that punt at the end of the last Giants game. But then he picked it back up."
Hahahaha
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Any word
on where Tulloch is going yet?
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Im sure the Eagles will offer similar money. He is much better off on this team if he wants to win but the Lions are up and comers.
"Philly fans are the greatest in the nation" --- Anyone with common sense
How can he look like ray lewis if they cant get through fairley and suh
Boomer Motha F****** Sooner
by allmaddenking on Jul 27, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
They let someone thru once in a while to feed RayRay.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Babin closer to signing with Philly.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2011/07/jason_babin_to_eagles_heating_.html
Ugh if we only just kept him when we had him. Im still skeptical on this. Id rather have Ray Edwards because he is atleast huge at 6’5" 280lbs. I wanted to see what washburn could have done with Edwards.
"Philly fans are the greatest in the nation" --- Anyone with common sense
I dont want him either... I feel like he pulled a fat al. Why wasnt he doing all that with us?
Boomer Motha F****** Sooner
by allmaddenking on Jul 27, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
BOO
I wanted Edwards. babin better come cheap.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
No I just want everyone to stop saying OMG I WANT RAY EDWARDS when it isn’t fucking happening.
The Jruth shall be told.
How do you know it's not happening?
He’s still an FA and the Eagles still have $$$$$.
Just sayin.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Never like the criticism
on Edwards for playing with Jared Allen because if he came here he would have Trent Cole
Congrats you and about 150 other people on here.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Random thought
but if NA signs with the Jets, wouldn’t that free up Antonio Cromartie?
He’s already a FA
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I know but he’s looking to sign with the Jets, whom are looking to sign NA. If they get one I doubt they get the other.
by Off The Hook on Jul 27, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
then yes, but we don’t want him here
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jul 27, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Cromartie is overrated.
I hope he stays in NY. I don’t want NA + Revis happening.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Huh, I always thought he was pretty good. Not JJ, NA, or any of the top tier players good, but certainly a solid #2 opposite of Asante. Perhaps all of this FA watching has made me dellusional.
by Off The Hook on Jul 27, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but he's a shitty player.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Lions fan here
Thanks for all the love you’re showing the Lions D-line, but its not THAT good. I would still take the Giant line over our right now. Don’t know about two years from now.
By the way, its not Suh+ Fairley…its Suh + Corey Williams. Nick Fairley will have to fight for the 3rd DT spot as it is right now. Sammie Hill, our 3rd stringer, is really good too. Both Sammie’s and Corey’s contracts end after this year, which is why we got fairley
House of Spears | My Detroit Lions/NFL Blog
Damn
I think Suh is a legitimate monster. He reminds me of Reggie White.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Btw
Aparently the Lions are offering Tulloch 6 mil a year with 10 m guaranteed…
House of Spears | My Detroit Lions/NFL Blog
http://twitter.com/#!/evansilva/status/96333462264487936
House of Spears | My Detroit Lions/NFL Blog
BOOO
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
I think he is worth more than that. Eagles could beat them out seeing as how they dont have many holes to fill.
"Philly fans are the greatest in the nation" --- Anyone with common sense
well
neither do we, but seeing as how poluzny got 7 mil a year. that deal is pretty close
House of Spears | My Detroit Lions/NFL Blog
Is
Tulloch as good as Paul P?
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
good question
Paul’s younger and I guess more proven, but not by a whole lot i reckon..
House of Spears | My Detroit Lions/NFL Blog
The Eagles are gonna have to overpay some of these guys at some point otherwise they’ll be outbid most of the times…. I guess they don’t want him bad enough.
If your team HAS to spend 30, 40, 50M just to get to the floor, these deals are going to be absurd at the margins. If you really want a guy, and you need to spend money? He’s getting the money. If we’re looking to keep contracts smart, we won’t be able to get many top shelf guys. Ray Edwards was saying the other day he’s going to the highest bidder
Unless they want to be like the Patriots and just mostly build from the draft and keep turning over the roster, which is a really good idea in terms of saving money. And the Eagles are getting better at drafting…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 27, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
If that scheme
was knocking out his own teammates in training camp…. then yes. he worked great. Lol
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Like a charging rhino
with his head cut off.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
by ForTheLove on Jul 27, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
lol
that was pretty much him with the Lions…
and i gotta rec that..
House of Spears | My Detroit Lions/NFL Blog
you tried to warn us…we didn’t listen
by Daniel Solomon on Jul 27, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he was
worth the gamble. It could have really paid off. It’s not like we missed the pick terribly…..
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Sigh,
it seems the news has slowed for the day. I was hoping something exciting would go down.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Soon… less than 48 hours to free agency…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 27, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Redskins signed Josh Wilson...
This is actually an annoyingly decent signing…
https://twitter.com/#!/jamisonhensley/statuses/96344648485847040
Tulloch or Ruud?
Nice to see the Eagles targeting a young talented LB that isn’t over the hill, just out of curiosity would you rather sign Tulloch or Ruud?
"When people see me sack the quarterback, I want them to see Jesus." - Reggie White
Twitter @JoshBernat17
I would say Tulloch as well, I just thought I’d throw Ruud’s name out there since he’s a cover 2 guy and Castillo is looking to go with a 2 deep scheme.
"When people see me sack the quarterback, I want them to see Jesus." - Reggie White
Twitter @JoshBernat17
Me
too, with Tulloch a close second. I don’t want Ruud at all, rather give Matthews a shot.
by ChillBillinChina on Jul 27, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Tulloch's a monster.. I don't know how I didn't realize he was an FA..
with our DL being how they’re going to be, Tolloch has played where he has to shed OLman… Therefore he’s a perfect fit.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Lions signed a LB...
http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/96423129341112320 FA LB Justin Durant…
This a sign we won the Tulloch sweepstakes?
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jul 27, 2011 11:39 PM EDT reply actions
Not necessarily
Durant can play inside and outside and the Lions have a need for both.
"The positions I played, every play, I was making contact, not like that … Deion Sanders. He couldn’t tackle my wife. He’s back there dancing out there instead of hitting." -Chuck Bednarik
by MidwesternEaglesfan on Jul 28, 2011 7:43 AM EDT reply actions
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