Report: Eagles Won't Be Re-Signing Anyone
by JasonB on Jul 26, 2011 4:48 PM EDT
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PrintLast night, I wrote this whole article about how much of a chance I thought each of the Eagles 15 unrestricted free had of coming back. According to Jonathan Tamari, you can go ahead and just set all those chances to zero.
The Eagles will not pursue any of their own free agents, including starters such as Stewart Bradley, Quintin Mikell and Sav Rocca and backup running back Jerome Harrison, the Inquirer has learned. Other free agents who the team will not re-sign include Dimitri Patterson, Nick Cole and Max Jean-Gilles, all of whom played significant amounts last season, but struggled at their positions.
I suppose the first reaction is to be surprised, but in reality, what is so shocking? As I outlined earlier, there's pretty good reasons why a lot of these guys wouldn't be back. In fact, the only guys I guessed had a better than 50% shot at returning were Akeem Jordan and Sav Rocca and yet neither surprise me.
So, out with the old and in the with the new. It's really no different than last year.
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and they have the same last name…..weird
Hen(e)ry the VIII, I am, I am
I’m punting for the team next door,
They’ve had 7 specialists before
And everyone was an Hen(e)ry
They wouldn’t have a Akers or a Sav (no Sav)
I’m the eighth specialist named Hen(e)ry
Hen(e)ry the eighth I am
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by Wiedmann on Jul 26, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice.
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!
The punter shouldn’t be a big deal, but if it matters at all, the Packers won it all with a UDFA rookie punter (Masthay).
"There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
by alcatraz0109 on Jul 26, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
And the GIants missed the playoffs by one game….
Care to pick the one that was lost by the punter?
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In MUDD I trust !!!
Oh no you dont
The Giants lost that game, not the punter. 21 under 8 mins doesn’t fall on his head
by Bono Hit My Car on Jul 26, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but the espy award winning play of the year does!
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Blame it on who you want… The packers didnt WIN because of their punter either
Bottom line is Rocca was good last year and consistent….kickers CAN lose you games in field position and FGs….and banking on two rookies is RISKY
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In MUDD I trust !!!
At least..
They are the top rookie options at their respective positions…both were first team All-Americans!
Actually, they might have not made the playoffs last year if not for their punter
Check out GB@NYJ last year, and don’t tell me that the Packers would have won with a poor performance from Masthay. Granted, maybe they would have won the Chicago game week three if he hadn’t punted to Hester, so maybe it’s a wash.
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Dodge was a 7th rounder.
"There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
by alcatraz0109 on Jul 26, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
In the long run
It doesn’t matter. If they end up being terrible, it’s a pretty easy fix. Lets worry about the D first.
by Bono Hit My Car on Jul 26, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
So what you're saying is
Even Matt “Wow, I let them dodge a bullet” would be better than our UDFA offerings?
Minor factual correction.
But even so, it won’t make or break anything.
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by alcatraz0109 on Jul 26, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i dunno about that
i’m not completely for sure, but i was under the impression that the last cap figure we had did not include our free agents because they werent under contract. dont forget, we have to sign our rookies as well, so i really dont see why everyone thinks we have this huge excess of cap space
This doesn’t change the cap room at all. They are all free agents. We are still at $24 million under.
ok....
so we trade kolb and that goes to about 25 mil under the cap. then signing our rookies should be about a 10 million dollar hit for this year. so we have 15 mil for free agents? i dont see what all the fuss is about, thats like 2 pretty good players and a reserve guy
Thats just to get to the minimum.
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The Eagles are at $13 mil under the cap as of the end of the lockout (20Jul10)
That is, prior to cutting or signing any players.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6786350/reggie-bush-potential-cap-casualties
13.
If JIBTA is really JIBTA...
…this is the worst news possible and a stream of “fuck you motherfucker” is coming soon.
But Bradley is completely overrated, Patterson is arguably the worst DB in football and Q is over 30. Joebastard hates it when you’re over 30.
Q: What do a leaky tampon and Sean McDermott's defense have in common?
A: They are equally ineffective in the red zone.
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--The often wrong (but right in this instance) James Harrison.
Wow!!
So now the oldest Players on the team are Juqua Parker & Michael Vick
by hoya03 on Jul 26, 2011 4:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Even though Mikell is gone, I’m not too worried about safety, between Jarrett, Allen, and Coleman it’s not looking too shabby
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Or you know
A starting RCB.. That might be a little bigger right now
by Bono Hit My Car on Jul 26, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Well clearly
It goes without saying that the top 2 priorities are CB and DE.
With or without Mikell/Bradley/Rocca/etc.
Mikell, Bradley and Harrison
were the ones I wanted back. They’re also the ones who will catch on elsewhere.
Hopefully we were interested and their contract demands are outrageous.
I can’t see Sav getting other offers. Same with some of these other guys, a week from now if they’re still looking, maybe we’ll change our tune.
At least now we know so we can react to future moves accordingly lol
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well, kind of Jamaal Jackson. I think he was on the practice squad or IR or something.
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There’s a lot of dead weight we need to jettison. I’m glad the front office recognizes this fact.
And yes this is Philly, you welcome to come check us
I wouldn’t consider Stewart Bradley, Quintin Mikell and Sav Rocca as dead weight.
by The Pied Piper on Jul 26, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe..
Not quite dead weight then? I don’t think it will have a negative impact on the us this year.
by Bono Hit My Car on Jul 26, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's be clear...
Bradley is a perennial injury risk, Mikell is aging and his skills declining, and Rocca was too inconsistent.
And yes this is Philly, you welcome to come check us
Rocca was solid last year.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I do agree….but this year is this year. Unfortunately, next year is also last your though. Sucks
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
what comes after saturday?
/rebecca black’d
by Daniel Solomon on Jul 26, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Inception
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Mikell
Didn’t show any decline last year… He was late to become a starter. Doesn’t have as many miles as most 21 year olds.
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Be that as it may
Mikell is not worth what St. Louis paid for him. He ’s a GOOD safety, not a GREAT safety.
And yes this is Philly, you welcome to come check us
I have a bad feeling that we won’t be adding any significant free agents to replace them.
Our LB crew:
SAM: Fouku – Rolle
MLB: Chaney – Matthews
WILL: Clayton?
STs
K: Henery
P: Henry
S
FS: Allen – Coleman
SS: Jarret
I think your bad feeling is ill recieved…..
Because we are now far below the Cap Floor and will need to do some signing to get to it. Not much of a choice.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
To: The Legend
I wanted to simplify your Keep or Cut Series…..
UFA’s – Cut
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
Welp, our LB crew is going to suck again, other than that no real surprises. Not like Stew really makes that huge of a difference anyways. Though I would have liked to have had him near the POA at the SAM spot.
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Premature?
I mean, there is the little matter of adding another 40-50 players to the roster that has yet to happen. There’s still a bunch of good LBs out there.
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Meh, with the way the Eagles value LBs I just don’t really see it being addressed in a meaningful way, and I’m ok with that.
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by Ed Van Chimp on Jul 26, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i am confused
After "not"spending last year rebuilding, and now really lowering the age/experience of the team…
Last year was going to be a year off to let Kolb grow into being an NFL QB. no problem there. Vick lights up and the team performs above expectations. How many years do they expect Vick to do this for? It seems like we are a few years from being stocked with talent and exp.
This may just all set up some very nice FA signings.
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
true.
great. i will be awake until saturday waiting for the good news then
Friday at 6 is when the party kicks off.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
They haven't signed anyone yet
Have to reserve judgement until then
by Bono Hit My Car on Jul 26, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
good enough
i guess we have some hungry young guys, some role players, some really good skill players, so if the right couple of other pieces are brought in we are golden .
No free agents ???? F you , we’re winning anyway!
Who's worried?
Can we pour a little out for players we enjoyed watching though?
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I got some water left over in my bottle, but they’re not deservant of it…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think not offering Harrison or Bradley a contract was a mistake
Bradley is great when healthy
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
Harrison is replaceable and Bradley just got injured too often….
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
But they were 3 separate injuries. It’s not as if Bradley kept re-injuring the same knee again.
by The Pied Piper on Jul 26, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea. So he is brittle all over, and not just in one spot?
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Just bad luck. He should be fully recovered. If he kept re-injuring the same body part, I wouldn’t resign him. Any player that was in the same position were he was during his concussion or his awkward landing would have suffered those injuries. So, I wouldn’t consider him as being brittle.
by The Pied Piper on Jul 26, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldnt consider him not brittle either.
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
we barely use any of our 2nd rbs
which is why i always yella te veryone who nuts when we draft or sign a rb for backup purposes
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
then why is it a mistake for Harrison to walk?
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
he averaged over 5 yards a touch when he did get the ball, he would be a great insurance policy and a nice RB to bring into games when we have a big lead and don’t want to expose Shady to an injury.
Harrison wants a starting gig, and both he and the Eagles know that someone out there will be willing to pay him enough to get one, especially with numbers like the YPC stat you just threw out. If he’s still available in two weeks, they may bring him back, but I totally expect him to want and get more playing time with another team.
They probably didn’t want to pay stewie the money he was looking for
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you know they weren't offered?
My first thought is that the Eagles wanted them back — given the second-round tenders — and probably felt out the agents, and the FO and the agents were too far apart.
Let’s see what they other offers are. I’d be skeptical of anything right now, if nobody wants to offer Stew a long deal either, maybe he’ll come crawling back.
Mikell and Harrison are gone though.
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Also impressed with front office
You have to appreciate the front office having already resigned everyone they want back ahead of the lockout. I had high hopes for Bradley and nothing against Sav or Harrison, but I’m impressed the decision was made early and stuck to by the FO
What this does mean, is that the eagles have a TON of signing to do to get to the inflated 90 man roster. These guys arent going to be sleeping til next week.
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
Good
This means were going to have to get serious about signing some defensive free agents, both at LB and CB. Chaney is ready for the middle!!
DOC
by ProBowlTrentCole58 on Jul 26, 2011 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
Ok
Time to kick some serious free agent signing ass then.
at the 40, 45, midfield, i dont care if he jumps, dives, hes running around.. you know the rest
by metseaglesknicks on Jul 26, 2011 5:03 PM EDT reply actions
im not worry about the story
this guy is on his last yr, we have got to sign him long term… period. If he holds out or not, because with raisetheprice as his agent if he makes it till the end of the yr with no contract he probably will test FA..
Did I miss something?
When did Mike Patterson become a “Must Sign Period” type of player? He’s decent, but with Dixon and Laws around already, how is he not replaceable? Why not at least see how well he fits Washburn’s system first?
There was some nonsense about his contract being void due to the lack of a CBA, but it wasn't true
And there’s no need to sign him, he’s under contract until 2016
He absolutely is replaceable
now, if he performs at the level of potential we thought he had coming out of college, in a contract year mind you, then it’s a different story.
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Jul 26, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
cool.
thanks.
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Jul 26, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I cant figure out the tactical side of announcing these guys “To be Released” when it cant actually happen until Thurs at 4pm.
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions
It's to the benefit or the player and the team.
It let’s the player have time to field offers and find a new team, and it allows the team to move forward and look for the replacements. Also, it keeps the players from wasting time showing up to camp. Also keeps the coaches from wasting time on players that aren’t going to be there on Thursday evening.
by Jason-E on Jul 26, 2011 5:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Camp: I think thats the most valid point.
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably also helps if they are signing an LB or RB
for them to know that those guys aren’t going to be in the mix. I mean obviously whoever we sign should be better, but that could be a consideration.
re: RB (Hey Ariz, you got Williams and Beanie, hook us up with Hightower)
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Technically none of these guys are being released.
They are all free agents. The Eagles simply won’t be bringing them back on board.
I just want to say that i missed actual football talk… so good to be back with real stuff to talk about
get back in the closet!!
And if R. Kelly goes to jail, I'LL PISS ON YO' CAT!!
by Riley Freeman on Jul 26, 2011 5:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well played
you won this round good sir
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by Riley Freeman on Jul 26, 2011 5:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
haha, thank you, may you win the next one
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec for the arrah Kelly
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I'm not sure I'm liking this at all.
Unless they have a lot of deals already inked, all I can say is ‘WTF’?
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This happens every year. Waiting for the big BOOM, and then its a slow trickle.
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
True
And every year we also overreact to the first trickle when about 30% of the big picture is colored in.
Guarantee these moves will all make sense later.
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COME ON! ITS TIME FOR UTTER PANIC!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Eagles next starting QB: "East-West Shrine Game Legend" Mike Kafka
Flyers: Sigh
Phillies:Gah enough with the injuries!.
Let’s see how the rest of the week goes, you might be right…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s just that Mikel and Rocca were known entities. Bradley was a strong maybe, and MJG could hold his own as a backup. I think they are trying to change too much in one year and it’s gonna bite them in the ass.
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I've seen this movie before...
Except the way I remember it the game was played on ice and everyone was wearing orange.
If Vick and McCoy were gone, you’d have a point. LOL>
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
anybody want to do a post on our finances? see what exactly we can expect?
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by henry-dekoeyer-eagle-fan on Jul 26, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
TigerBlood. Eagles are WINNING! LOL
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 26, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I never have to see Dimitri Patterson, MJG, or Nick Cole in an Eagles uniform ever again?
SWEET
With that said, I’m surprised Eagles didn’t even offer Bradley a contract. He was, although injury prone, decent player and the linebacker with the most experience on the team.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
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The Eagles have never signed or resigned a LB at a premium price. So a guy like Stephen Tulloch or Paul Posluszny is out of the question. It’s safe to say that our LB core will compose of Chaney, Clayton, Fouku, Matthews, and some combination of Rolle, Jeanty and Lloyd. We might be able to resign Trotter midseason!
agreed, my name is special
any day is a good day to be a Dodgers, Eagles, Penguins, Clippers, Texas A&M fan! except when they loose
I was born the year Brett Favre started playing.... amazing
by henry-dekoeyer-eagle-fan on Jul 26, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
dont we all?
And if R. Kelly goes to jail, I'LL PISS ON YO' CAT!!
by Riley Freeman on Jul 26, 2011 5:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They’re just having a good ole time there… that’s me in the middle…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
mcnabb likely to be traded to vikings
any day is a good day to be a Dodgers, Eagles, Penguins, Clippers, Texas A&M fan! except when they loose
I was born the year Brett Favre started playing.... amazing
by henry-dekoeyer-eagle-fan on Jul 26, 2011 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
lesean mccoy on nfln
any day is a good day to be a Dodgers, Eagles, Penguins, Clippers, Texas A&M fan! except when they loose
I was born the year Brett Favre started playing.... amazing
by henry-dekoeyer-eagle-fan on Jul 26, 2011 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
Ugh.
As much as I loved having football talk today…
Today kind of sucked and was pretty anti-climatic as far as anything major happening (so far).
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
You gotta wait for it buddy… with the Eagles nothing comes easy, if it comes at all.
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol no doubt. But as far as hype goes and the build up both on TV and radio between the last 2 days. It’s been a pretty simple day.
It will be a domino effect and it’ll be exciting once it gets under way. It’s the wait that’s just blahhhhh
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by soman319 on Jul 26, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
When it goes down, you’re gonna be outta your mind, so get ready….
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s like drugs. I know. lol
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
The lockout was forced rehab and we are finally off probation…time to get our fix. We are just waiting for our dealer to bring us some of the good stuff
by Daniel Solomon on Jul 26, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be pretty funny if Dallas or NY signs Akers, Mikell, and Bradley. One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.
The caps of Dal & NYG mean they aren't signing anyone without cutting a ton of dead weight themselves.
They are 1-2 in highest cap numbers (before any offseason transactions)
Dal $18.9 million over
NYG $11.3 million over
13.
Unrelated Question
Any news on negotiations with any of our draft picks? Watkins, Jarrett, Marsh, etc?
Dont know but Watkins and Jarrett were both at the NovaCare complex today per Spadarrow
The news of the day: A bunch of Eagles reported to the NovaCare Complex on Tuesday, including quarterback Michael Vick, defensive end Trent Cole, running back LeSean McCoy, first-round draft pick Danny Watkins and second-round draft pick Jaiquawn Jarrett. I guess maybe 25 to 30 players reported to the Complex to get physicals, meet with coaches and work out. The chemistry in the building dialed up a lot with the presence of the players. It was a really fun day.
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Charles Johnson agrees to terms with Panthers, per league source.
$32 million guaranteed for Charles Johnson. Full $ details in post coming soon.
Per ProFootballTalk
Edwards time?
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http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-rumors-tuesday-craziness-edition/#comment-51098
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The Jruth shall be told.
Heard isn't gonna cut it
We need more!
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I'm inclined to not believe it till I see it
The Eagles have made way too backsided moves that we thought we knew so until he actually signs with another team, I’ll keep my ears open.
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agree, and not only this
Everything you hear this week could possibly fall through until it is inked. Maybe it only takes one domino to fall.
But if we’re out of the running we need to see some action soon, to appease those of us closely following Free RAGEncy
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Only one I’m sad to see go is Stew, I had already made my piece with Q & Akers leaving
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So this pretty much forces us to sign a veteran linebacker, right?
Really worried about all the youth at the safety position.
by BitterSportsFan on Jul 26, 2011 6:00 PM EDT reply actions
Believe it or not, I'm actually surprised to see Stew go
I mean me of all people.
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I will miss the striped shirt
[insert Disco Stew image here]
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Good work finding it
Well, good for Cowboys fan.
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Haha... Thanks I suppose?
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by Jeremiah_24 on Jul 27, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
So the second-round tenders?
Was it just the Eagles covering their butts? Or did it mean they wanted the guys back but the guys thought they could get more money and bigger roles elsewhere?
This makes the team look like the bad guy and in some cases they most certainly are, but the guys they appeared to want back, would be interesting to know what was said between the agents and FO and if there was some interest at a lower price or just none at all.
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What happened to Joe Banner or whoever that was saying the Eagles have a plan to get everything done fast when the lockout was lifted
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Shit's been open since 10 a.m.
chill.
If they’d have made moves at 10:05 everyone would be blasting them for not doing due diligence.
If it gets to 48 hours and we still have this unwrapped Kolb spoiling on the counter, then let’s worry.
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But everyone reported yeterday that it would be a “0-100 mph” start, so how are we not supposed to be a little disappointed with this “if it was any slower it would be going backwards” beginning to FA?
I understand what you're saying
But I think that was mostly media guessing not front office people saying that.
It’s smart for front office types to make their cuts first and clear cap space (for teams like the Ravens and Cowboys) and then call around and egg some people on. Once the first shoe drops it could get good.
I’m not gonna lie, I had NFL Network on all night and woke up at 8:45 to go back and forth between that and SportsCenter, but the more I thought about it, the more it made sense that it takes time for agents to call around and see what teams are really serious about what, and to come up with all the necessary “if x happens, then we do y” scenarios that they couldn’t have anticipated all summer.
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In other words
I think if you look at this in 48 hours you’ll be like “wow that was a fast start to free agency.”
At this point, 8 hours in, yeah it’s a little drab, but it’s also a little early to call it disappointing. It’s like the first two drives in a game.
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You make some great points, a lot of reporters are saying that the FOs are still trying to understand the CBA and all of the in’s and out’s of the nitty gritty details.
I would have actually preferred they opened up FA on W or R, a day or two before official contracts can be signed because it would have left less time for re-negging (sp?), which I think a lot of teams are legitimately, and rightfully so, scared of. Agents are necessarily the most honest human beings out there.
lol
you do have to be careful with that word. I can’t spell it either except in its plainest form.
It’s tough to be patient, but the dominoes are starting to fall.
Waiting on you, Asomugha.
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I have been in the “NA isn’t worth the money” camp for the most part, but if we 1- aren’t signing a big time DL
2- not bringing back Stew or Mikell
3- and are going with a lot of young guys
then signing NA should be an absolute must.
And yes, as soon as he signs with someone, the domino’s will start falling quicker than we can keep track of.
And you know what, fuck NFLN. They led off the 3:30 segment with “big name FAs are starting to sign …” bullshit and it was the exact same shit they had been blabbering about for the past 3 hours.
That's the problem with 24-hour news channels
They’re on all 24 hours no matter how many hours worth of news there are.
I would still love Asomugha above all else; I really think we can get by at the other positions if we have two sick corners. Plus that’ll mean we made an FA move and can trade Kolb for something else.
I would also be very happy with DRC or anyone down the list until Ike or Carlos Rogers, which would make me only kinda happy, and then require some other big moves to appease me. (and yes, the Eagles have to appease me and only me)
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so which mike do they target?
Barnett? Tulloch? Posluszny? I can’t imagine they are going to stand pat with Chaney and Matthews
"Have you seen this Perez guy pitch? I'm a pacifist, but I've never seen anything so violent look so beautiful."
Fokou @ SAM, Chaney or Matthes @ MIKE, Chaney or Clayton @ WILL.
They love Chaney, Clayton showed flashes in the DAL game, Matthews was specifically targeted by our OLine coach DC. Stew was young when he got his shot. Ditto for Fokou. Going young, cheap and inexperienced is the standard operating procedure for AR @ LB.
I get all that, but regardless…Chaney is a 2nd year 7th rounder with limited experience paired with a rookie 4th rounder transitioning from a 3-4…they like to go young and cheap when possible, but that is even a bit over the top for them
"Have you seen this Perez guy pitch? I'm a pacifist, but I've never seen anything so violent look so beautiful."
You are right, but this group doesn’t scare me very much at all, especially if we bolster the DL in some way (Big Al and/or Edwards).
Chaney has room to improve, but has shown he can get to the ball and wants to be a beast, which is important for his progression. Clayton did as well in a much smaller sample size, and wants to play next to Chaney and be just as good, which is also important. Fokou can hold his own at SAM. Matthews was probably the best cover LB in teh draft, so he could be a great fit if we transition to more Cover 2/Tampa 2.
They have a lot of potential and promise. Maybe I am just being overly optimistic, but I like the group. Would feel better if Stew was still in the picture, but I don’t think he will be that big of a loss.
Risky Business
JasonColeYahoo: Philly is still trying to leverage AZ on kolb. Thats a pricey game to play
True
But if we know Arizona is in and we mess around and hold out on them, we can always just accept at any time. Especially during this week where reneging on deals is totally in play.
Same deal is always, if we didn’t try to bleed them for as much as possible, we’d be down the FO’s throats for taking the offer too quickly.
Can’t get mad at them for blowing it til they actually blow it. Then it’s irate time!
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Makes sense
I’m sure Spags loves him.
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You knew somebody was going to overpay…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
No idea… but i’m sure they’re overpaying… usually bad teams have to overpay, broncos overpaid for dawk…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
And for it to be done instantly
It had to be a no-brainer. I’m sure playing for Spags was appealing, but Mikell didn’t even feel out the interest around the league? Or he did it in half a day (or tampered)?
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Mikell agrees to deal with Rams, heard on Sportscenter from Schefter
Last name Ever
First name Greatest
That's gonna be a stone-cold ass beating
Either that or I’m way overconfident.
Iggles never start off hot though, they’re always like 2-3 and then win 8 of 9.
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I like the confidence
But I wouldn’t sleep on the Rams.
NFCW champs. Granted, that’s not saying much…
Stone-cold ass beating is right.
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by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Jul 26, 2011 7:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Les Bowen
on twitter is saying that Bradley’s agent is saying the Eagles still would like to bring Stew back.
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
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MonSTARZ forever!
He’s still worth giving a 1 year shot
The first Drauschak.
by birds'n'raiders on Jul 26, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
OT
HAve you done anymore writing bro? I know we kind of went at it when you posted your latest piece, but I still want to keep track on your progress. Let me know if there is somewhere I can peruse (that is a big vocab word for you) your grammtical stylings!
ha
Well, an agent picked me up, and she wanted me to work on a full book. The short story is being shopped right now to The New Yorker, Harper’s, The Atlantic Monthly, etc. But I’ve had some woes writing a full novel. I have 2 different story-boards all set up. I could show you some snippets of other chapters (that are obviously far from done) if you’d like.
The first Drauschak.
by birds'n'raiders on Jul 26, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Good for you! I have no experience in the writing industry, but I would say “follow your heart” and everything will work out.
I think you should do another Fan Post. Your last one was well received, I don’t think anyone would have any reservations. Thoughts?
if Kolb is traded tonight, I will do so in celebration.
The first Drauschak.
by birds'n'raiders on Jul 26, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
See!
(made similar point above)
These guys are going to shop around.
Maybe teams are trying to sign FAs, but agents like to play that interest up against other teams’ interest.
Even if the Birds aren’t interested, the agent is going to leak that they are so that the other teams are quick to pull the trigger and/or up their offers.
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1st offensive possession of the year
Desean running by Mikell…I can see it now
"Have you seen this Perez guy pitch? I'm a pacifist, but I've never seen anything so violent look so beautiful."
Tarvaris to the Seahawks
(is only one who is sad; wanted him as Eagles’ No. 2)
This hurts Eagles leverage if they were trying to play them against AZ. Hopefully Cleveland or Miami sneaks out of the doldrums to bid up Kolb.
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Hope the Eagles don’t mess up the trade…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be a bad omen
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See you Week 1, Q!
Sooo Seattle fucked us over w/ the T Jackson signing…
Here’s hoping we get this deal done soon.
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to talk to you yet.
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
by Ralf E Chubbs on Jul 26, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Ralf is a good guy, i was out of my mind a little bit in the off season… not anyone else’s fault…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I'm waiting until I'm positive you're not nuts.
At least I’m willing to do that; many others here won’t talk to you at all.
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
by Ralf E Chubbs on Jul 26, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
to answer your question
Who the fuck knows?
Ever since Pete Carroll came to power, they’ve been dealing with the diamond-in-a-rough find, backup quarterback stuff…
All I know is that this Should take Seattle out of the running for K2.
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
by Ralf E Chubbs on Jul 26, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re pretty much screwed… i’ll take a 4th rounder for Kolb now…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully not too good a fit.
It’s still the NFC.
Speaking of which, if Nnamdi isn’t coming here, my wish list is 1) Texans 2) AFC team that sucks 3) Baltimore 4) Ravens
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Speedster Noel Devine to us!
Wait, is that good?
I liked him in College FWIW; He and Pat White and Steve Slaton were money.
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
Undrafted Rookie
In my opinion Darren Sproles 2.0 but stronger and faster.
"truTV is like BET for white folks." - Chuck
Nice… should be fun, this year is gonna be crazy…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
wow we are killing it on the UDFA market, i must say i like what we have done there so far.
NFL, I am no longer disappoint.
Great story, but I don’t see him having an impactful NFL career. Which is too bad, seems like a really great person.
any chance at RB?
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
by Ralf E Chubbs on Jul 26, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he can
With the exception of his senior year, he was incredibly durable during his college career. And annually was the strongest person on the WVU team at 175 lbs. Prior to his junior season he was benching 435, squating 500+, and power cleaning 300. He is going to be one of the guys I definitely root for since I’ve been following him since his junior year of HS.
"truTV is like BET for white folks." - Chuck
The way it looks...
…this season is going to get seriously ugly unless they actually sign some decent players. Right now, it looks like they’re going to war with a whole pile of camp bodies and hoping a whole bunch of them come through in a major way.
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!
Mikell and Bradley
are really the only solid guys we are losing so far. Plus it’s only been a few hours into Free agency. I bet our roster looks different come Week 1. =P
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
"this season is going to get seriously ugly unless they actually sign some decent players"
Can you give it a full 24 hours?
As noted, we haven’t lost anyone we weren’t expecting to lose. We’ve got our 11 draft picks, plenty of money to nip the Jackson holdout in the bud and still sign people, plus Kolb to trade.
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And for some reason...
…I don’t think Kolb is going anywhere. Just a gut feeling. I don’t think they’ll get what they want for him, so they’ll just keep him.
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!
4 year, $28 mil for Q?
Way too much, but glad he got PAID!
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
one more jersey I gotta retire...
that’s 3 in as many years
D Mc
Dawkins
Q
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
by Ralf E Chubbs on Jul 26, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw the Leinart-Tarvaris-Whitehurst tweet
a while back and was about to ask.
That’s be quite the battle. Maybe nobody emerges as a legit starter! lol
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well, that answers your previous question
Sort of.
Probably a QB battle to see who comes out on top- Seattle’s out of the running for K2.
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
by Ralf E Chubbs on Jul 26, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone else other than Arizona need a qb ???
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
they already took aj feeley off our hands once, they won’t fall for it again…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
nobody as bad as AZ...
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
by Ralf E Chubbs on Jul 26, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s not good for the value of Kolb… hope they don’t come out of this saying that they’re gonna keep kolb this year…. although i wasn’t looking forward to another non-tackling cb in DRC… in that case, if we keep kolb, then we gotta get asomugha… that’s the only way the eagles can make it up to us…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
possibly tennessee or cleveland. maybe san francisco but that’s even more of a stretch
by Turd.Ferguson on Jul 26, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
im tired of kolb already… just trade him to the cardinals and get it over with, nobody else is gonna give more and the more you wait the less his value will be…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You must not be very good at poker
Or, um, anything that requires negotiating.
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Okay, i’m all for it if they can get more, just don’t see it happening, we got screwed this year because we couldn’t trade him before the draft when so many teams needs a qb…
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s calm down now folks and regroup…. there has to be a plan b to drive the value up, right ??
by Eagladelphia on Jul 26, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure where else to say this
but espnNFCeast is tweeting that the Giants might cut andrews and try to pick Burress. Are they trying to kill their O-line?
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
They were planning to get rid of Andrews from the beginning, but yeah, it does seem like that’s the only position they’ve been cleaning out
by Daniel Solomon on Jul 26, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Just surprised they are cutting him
after their other cuts already.
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
I guess it's risky
But it seems like they could get all those guys back for cheaper if their runs at free agents fail.
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Winner
Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.
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by MightyJoeBanner on Jul 26, 2011 7:39 PM EDT reply actions
Henery also punted in college
just an fyi.
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
R2C2!
RIP JJ
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