Eagles 2011 Free Agents: Who Stays And Who Goes?
by JasonB on Jul 26, 2011 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintThe NFL has released the official list of free agents and the Eagles have 15 players who will be unrestricted and can sign with whomever they like this week. We're going to take a look at each guy and assess his whether he should stay and what the chances are of him doing so.
David Akers, K - When the Eagles drafted Alex Henery, the departure of the greatest kicker in franchise history became fait accompli. The Eagles don't need him and he's still plenty good enough to be in demand by other teams. 0% chance he's back.
Stewart Bradley, LB - The market will probably decide whether Bradley comes back. Obviously the Eagles like him as a player, but his spotty injury history likely has them a bit worried. Combine that with the fact that Jamar Chaney played so well in his place and they drafted two middle linebackers (Casey Matthews & Greg Lloyd) and seems like Bradley could be gone. If he was willing to sign a one year deal, I think the Eagles would be interested. 40% chance he's back.
Quintin Mikell, DB - With the three kids at safety, Nate Allen, Kurt Coleman & Rookie Jaiquwan Jarrett, it doesn't seem likely that the soon to be 31 year old Mikell is in the Eagles plans. It's a shame though, because he really was one of the most underrated and best safeties in the NFL last year. He should also be in demand this year, which further hurts the chances of the Eagles bringing him back. That said, if the Eagles are "going for it" this year, it's not crazy to think they would make a real effort to bring back one of their defensive leaders who is still in his prime. 30% chance he's back.
Nick Cole, G, Dimitri Patterson, DB, Max Jean-Gilles, G - I'm going to group all of these guys together because my thought on them is the same. These are backup players that have shown that they really aren't good enough to be starters, so the Eagles may be happy to simply try someone else as a backup to see what happens. That said, with rosters being expanded to 90 this year, there's a better than normal chance that these guys could be back for competition. You can only have so many undrafted rookies in camp and the Eagles could see value in having some of these vets around in a year like this. 30% chance they are back.
Omar Gaither, LB - I considered putting Omar in the above group, but he's been here long enough and the team has brought in enough linebackers that I think his time has come. For the reasons listed above I'll say there's a chance, but not much. 10% chance he'll be back.
Jerome Harrison, RB - A really good back that would be valuable here, but might finally get a chance to do more elsewhere. Plus, the Eagles probably drafted Dion Lewis to be their backup. 20% chance he'll be back.
Ellis Hobbs, DB - If he plays at all next year, it won't be here. 0% chance he's back.
Akeem Jordan, LB - Useful guy that can play all linebacker spots. With all the youth at LB next year, Jordan will likely be an important guy to have around, especially since he can play special teams as well. It's doubtful he'll get any big offers from anyone else, so he should be back. 70% chance he's back.
Sav Rocca, P - There's really not any punters of note on the market and Rocca has turned into a solid NFL punter. No one has ever really made a big offer to a punter, so if the Eagles want him back they should get him. Presumably, they will. 80% chance he's back.
Ernie Sims, LB - He is exactly who Lions fans told us he was. 0% chance he's back.
Antoine Harris, DB - Frankly, I don't even know who this is. So I assume that means he won't be back. 0% chance he's back.
Reggie Wells, G - 0% chance he's back.
Bobby McCray, DE - 0% chance he's back.
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Please Please PLEASE bring back Mikell. It’s ridiculous to think that the FO believes that it’s a good idea to have all of our safeties at such a young age. If they are going to bring in a FA veteran, why not just keep Mikell instead? Also, there is no way that Dion Lewis will be our #2 this year. I just don’t see how it’s plausible. It’s too bad that we can’t have Harrison back because he is exactly the type of #2 we need.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"Yeah, I like to hit people"
-Brandon Graham
Why isn’t is plausible? LeSean McCoy was the #2 in his rookie year.
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Caplan was saying that it won’t happen. I just personally think that he’s too small at this point. Wasn’t he under 200? Plus he’s not a good blocker (yet). I think they have to bring in a ve.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"Yeah, I like to hit people"
-Brandon Graham
He is under 200, but he’s also 5-7.
Running backs play early. That’s a position where guys don’t usually have to sit on the bench. They may very well bring in a vet for now, but I don’t think it’s all unlikely that Lewis ends up as the backup.
Actually of the vets out there, I may not be shocked to see Buckhalter back.
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Interesting Jason
I was thinking about Buckhalter as well. What do you think he will cost to bring back?
Yeah, Buckhalter is available, and so is Westy. It would be nice to have one of those guys back. I am still amazed as to how Buckhalter even has knees, what a class act.
Some other intriguing names:
Cadillac Williams
Joesph Addai
Cedric Benson
Michael Bush
Kevin Faulk
Ronnie Brown
There are a LOT of good FA RBs available. I know they are going to want a pass catching one, but I hope they get a good blocker as well.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"Yeah, I like to hit people"
-Brandon Graham
Micheal bush was a great compliment to Darren McFadden last year
My mojo so dope. BITCH!
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Portis can block too
I love that list, and I would welcome back Buck or Westy.
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Jul 26, 2011 9:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm like Williams from Tampa.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
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I also disagree with the notion...
…that Lewis can be the number 2. He would be the number 2 back in a pass-happy offense that saw the number 1 back only get 20 carries in a game once. It’s not like he would be in a DeAngelo Willams/Jonathan Stewart kind of situation where he is getting 10-12 carries a game.
I-C-Y-U-H8-ME
“He would be the number 2 back in a pass-happy offense that saw the number 1 back only get 20 carries in a game once”
That’s the Eagles.
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That's what I am saying.
I am saying that Dion Lewis would be the number 2 back for a team that doesn’t run the ball so why are we worried about his frame like he’s going to get 300 carries?
I-C-Y-U-H8-ME
AAhhhhh....
…I see why you thought I wasn’t talking about Dion Lewis. I meant that I disagree with the notion he can’t be the number 2.
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Aside from the fact
that Dion is terrible. I like Graig Cooper alot more then Dion.
by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Jul 26, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
So, is that...
…30% for all of them or like 10% each for Nick Cole, G, Dimitri Patterson, DB, and Max Jean-Gilles, G??
I’m hoping it is 10% individually adding up to 30%. lol
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I think Greg llold the first to go on phantom ir this year
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Yeah, you are probably right.
He is clearly a project pick for further down the road. I’d be surprised if he didn’t turn up to camp and “re-injure” himself while stretching.
I-C-Y-U-H8-ME
I always wondered this...
Does the team actually tell the “red-shirted” player the real deal as they place him on phantom IR? Or is it the unspeakable yet obvious “diagnosis” once the player trips when coming back from the water jug? (i.e one the asst coaches pulls a NYJ move and trips them as they’re jogging down the sidelines! haha)
Because if the team actually says it, cant the player use that against them down the road if they have a vendetta?
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by goodfella46er on Jul 26, 2011 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Lloyd will either be cut, practice squad, or ir.
In honest answer I think coaches will tell the player the heads up, thus telling them they got potential and wants a second look next year when they’re healthy. Remember that Greg Lloyd tore his acl his junior year and never completely recovered from it like Ingram, I don’t know much about Greg Lloyd jr other than his dad was an extremely good player, I call this the bloodline draft class because of Mathews also. Hopefully I’m wrong because I want every eagle draft pick to make a good impact on the team.
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Yeah, but in college.
I think his skill set and size will translate him better as a SAM on the pro level than as a MLB. He’s about Stewart Bradley’s size with less speed so I don’t know that you can put him in the middle and expect him to go sideline to sideline.
I-C-Y-U-H8-ME
If he's slower than Bradley how can you expect him to cover TE's?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Not after his Knee injury.
He’s a run stuffing LB.. He’s more of a Mike at this level.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Off topic but since today is the big day for the Kolb trade – Kolb for Patrick Peterson, straight up. Don’t need two non-tackling cb’s in Samuel and DRC.
This is the true test...
…“Max Jean-Gillis: 30% chance he’s back”
Q: What do a leaky tampon and Sean McDermott's defense have in common?
A: They are equally ineffective in the red zone.
"If Roger Goodell was on fire and I had to piss on him to put him out, I wouldn't do it...I hate him and will never respect him."
--The often wrong (but right in this instance) James Harrison.
But that’s exactly why there’s a decent chance he won’t be back. If after five years in the NFL the best that can be said about you is that you are “serviceable,” teams tend to look younger and cheaper.
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Couldn't help but spill a bit of my OJ, Jason
Frankly, I don’t even know who this is. So I assume that means he won’t be [back].
Can't lump big Max in with Nick Cole or Dimitri
I’d give Nick a 0%
I’d give Dimitri 10%
And I’ll give Big Max 50%…he’s not a terrible back up. Sure, not a starter by any means. But he could be valuable to fill in
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Yeah, Max did actually have a couple games last year where he played quite well. But Watkins means one less roster spot and there are a few other young guys…
I dunno, like I said, there’s a lot of roster spots so there’s a decent chance. I just wonder after five years if a guy has shown you he’s nothing more than a backup whether you might want to move on try something different?
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Agreed
I look at it a little differently. I lump Cole and MJG in together. And if I do that, I see it as about a 70% chance that ONE of them is back. One or the other (depends on the money). Not both.
Neither of them are good by any means. And I’m tired of seeing either of them in the starting lineup. But they’ve been valuable backups the last few years. And that holds some weight to Andy. I’ll actually be shocked if they’re both gone.
Saw this on the Raiders SBN site:
Visit the site if you get some time, truly great stuff there.
Talking Nnamdi
I love the following! This is the kind of numbers you see all the time with baseball, but seldom with football. It is an inexact science, but it is still a solid attempt at putting value in terms of projected wins and losses.
Projecting impact of NFL free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Ray Edwards, DeAngelo Williams – ESPN
Nnamdi Asomugha Asomugha is rightly considered the top free agent in this class. The “arguably” is often dismissed when considering whether the longtime Raider is the best pure cover corner in the league. And with a projection that says he could give the woeful Texans passing defense a lift, and deliver an 11 percent bump in playoff likelihood with a move to the AFC South, he could be worth every penny Houston would spend on him — particularly with what should be an improved pass rush in Houston, with new coaching and personnel in that department.
But Asomugha alone, we know, can’t guarantee wins — the Raiders’ eight wins in 2010 were the most (by three) by a team that he’s ever been a part of.
Philadelphia Eagles WINS WIN% WIN DIV PLAYOFFS
Baseline 9.8 61.3% 49.7% 70.6%
w/ Nnamdi Asomugha 10.3 64.4% 55.0% 76.3%
Impact 0.5 3.1% 5.3% 5.7%
Washington Redskins WINS WIN% WIN DIV PLAYOFFS
Baseline Forecast 5.8 36.3% 2.6% 6.9%
w/ Nnamdi Asomugha 6.1 38.1% 3.4% 8.1%
Impact 0.3 1.9% 0.8% 1.2%
Houston Texans WINS WIN% WIN DIV PLAYOFFS
Baseline Forecast 7.5 46.9% 18.5% 25.5%
w/ Nnamdi Asomugha 8.1 50.6% 26.9% 36.6%
Impact 0.6 3.8% 8.4% 11.1%
This set of projections isn’t meant to simply lay waste to the idea that free agency can truly pay off — a 10-plus percentage increase in playoff chance improvement from the addition of a single player to a 53-man Sunday roster is actually extremely impressive. But it should serve as a reminder: The personnel questions that face NFL teams are extremely nuanced. If Houston’s defensive problems don’t disappear with the addition of a player of Asomugha’s talent, it’d just be further evidence. Nnuanced indeed.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
It seems you guys picked up Chas Henry?
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:44 AM EDT reply actions
where did you see this? link?
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http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011-nfl-undrafted-free-agents
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Breer was just on NFLN from NovaCare
saying he thinks Roseman will take his time with the Kolb trade. He really seemed to know the Eagles well but that was the only new insight. Said no haps on Asomugha, Dallas maybe.
I guess this isn’t really the thread for it but I had to mention.
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by D3Keith on Jul 26, 2011 9:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
How the hell will Dallas get Nnamdi???
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"Yeah, I like to hit people"
-Brandon Graham
Cut half their team.
Mortonsen said on Mike and Mike that Nnamdi wants to go somewhere that he can work towards his post playing career gig, which, is apparently acting. So, NYJ wouldn’t shock me as a possibility. Most people seem to think Houston is going to go balls out for him.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Seriously, that kills that dudes credibility on everything else in that statement. Any team dealing for Kolb probably wants to do it today/tomorrow depending on when they’re camp is opening up. Also I seriously doubt the Eagles want Kolb in their own training camp….. awkwarddddd
The Jruth shall be told.
His point was Roseman isn't going to move
Without trying to bid teams up. And I think he meant no trade at 10:01 but maybe still today.
I think this is no time to BS free agents, but it’s okay for them to slow-play the Kolb trade, especially if DRC is the offer from AZ & picks are from elsewhere, the Birds have to feel out the FA CBs.
Re: Dallas, yeah, Rob Ryan was his coord in Oakland. Would take major cuts. I feel like NA likes the Jets but he hasnt said much. I think the Ravens and us would be better fits, and speculation involves Texans & Bucs too.
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Jul 26, 2011 10:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yes but if Roseman keeps saying "Eh we're waiting" they'll throw a little more at us just to expediate the process.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Akeem the only guy over 50%?
I agree on the Akeem assessment, but I think he belongs in the MJG group. Plus with the 6 young LBs & Jeanty, there might not be a spot available for Jordan. Even if Bradley is gone and Lloyd hits phantom IR, it’s Chaney, Clayton, Mathews, Rolle & Fokou for the first 5 spots, I’d guess.
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by D3Keith on Jul 26, 2011 10:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Rocca!
I just think Akeem is over the MJG group because he proved that he’s at least an average starter.
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I think Akeem will be back if Bradley is not.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I disagree with Bradley & Jordan, I would bump up Bradley at least 20% & bump down Jordan at least 35%
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Bradley is so tough to call. I was going to put it at 50-50
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fuck you.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
fuck you
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
fuck you
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
fuck you
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
fuck you
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Mike Florio can suck it!!
“If they want a first round pick for Kolb, then Kevin Kolb should be their starting quarterback.”
Yeah…because we haven’t had any other talent at the QB position! (eyes rolling)
Trufant? Hall? Weaver? Moss?
I know these guys arent a significant part of the squad,just curious wut their odds may be.
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