Eagles Interested In Brett Favre As A Backup? Commence Freakouts
by JasonB on Jul 24, 2011 1:41 AM EDT
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PrintWIP's Howard Eskin was doing an appearance on his other gig on NBC 10, and said that the idea of the Eagles pursing Brett Favre as a backup when Kevin Kolb is traded is "possible." The Inquirer ran it up the flagpole with team sources and actually didn't seem to get a flat out denial.
A team source told The Inquirer that bringing Favre to Philly was a "long shot" and that a "lot of things would need to fall into place" for it happen.
In reality, not that many things would need to fall into place. Kevin Kolb would have to be traded, which we all know is going to happen and may already basically be done. So there's one thing falling into place. With Kolb gone, the team would be in need of another QB and it's likely that a guy they could feel comfortable starting a few games would be preferable. It would be even better if he already knew the system...
What's that you say? Brett Favre has already played under Andy Reid and Marty Mornhinweg when they were in Green Bay? Well, we seem to have a fit. But Favre is retired and he would have to want to come out of retirement. Clearly, that's never been too much of an issue.
So Kevin Kolb would need to be traded and Favre would need to want to unretire. Doesn't seem like that many things need to fall into place...
Now, of course there's the issue of whether Favre would actually want to be a backup, which all he would find here. Would the lure of another Superbowl ring help with that? Did the sexting scandal finally sour him on being in the spotlight?
Who knows? But there's no doubt that the arrival of Favre would only amp up what is likely to be a circus of a year for the Eagles. They've already got Michael Vick and this explosive offense that's going to be national TV a bunch of times. They could also bring in Plaxico Burress, which would be sure to create headlines. There seems to be a good chance that the Eagles will spend big on at least one high profile free agent. Add Favre to that mix? ESPN just become the Eagles channel. Fox might as well get rid of Curt Menafee and hire Dave Spadaro, because it would be all Eagles all the time.
Also by the way, did anyone else catch the writeup of this "rumor" on PhiladelphiaEagles.com? The writer (Bo Wulf) actually says Favre is" perhaps best-known for his seminal appearance in There's Something About Mary."
Seriously? If he was slipping in a sly joke there, then good on him. I sure laughed. If he wasn't joking... he should start claiming he was.
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no way this happens
favre wont come on as a back up and I dont think we need his gun slinging inmobile style of play.
And if R. Kelly goes to jail, I'LL PISS ON YO' CAT!!
by Riley Freeman on Jul 24, 2011 2:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
No way this happens
Please dont ever use favre and Eagles in the same sentence ever again or i will have to leave this site..not really but u get my drift
hmmm i dont
think he’s a choke artist his skills are just declining
And if R. Kelly goes to jail, I'LL PISS ON YO' CAT!!
by Riley Freeman on Jul 24, 2011 2:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Last couple years when he went to the playoffs withna chance to end the game, he just throws a pick
Across the body right into the hands of the defender
My mojo so dope. BITCH!
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by dday on Jul 24, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
last couple?
Much more than that. I’m having trouble thinking of a year that he didn’t end his team’s season with a pick… all the way back to 4th & 26
by Sparki on Jul 24, 2011 7:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
wich has to do
with his gun slinger style. its all or nothing I mean he has his ring. I consider choke artist not wining anything ever.
And if R. Kelly goes to jail, I'LL PISS ON YO' CAT!!
by Riley Freeman on Jul 24, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here we go with nonsense superlatives for an interception machine who has been an average QB for the better part of a decade. The guy is the most overrated football player in NFL history, which is saying something because he was pretty good in his own right. Not even a top 5 QB of all time and people make him out to be a God.
Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"
by Ed Van Chimp on Jul 24, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I think the thing with Favre is has more to do with his “mystique” than his on field performance. Hes the ultimate “Iron Man” with that whole streak, the crazy arm strength, the games where he somehow dominates even though he looks like a fuckin 40 year old alcoholic.
I dont like the guy, not even a little. But i understand why people do(the ones who believe what i said above), but when it comes down to being a QB, i can name 10 other guys id go with.
the games where he somehow dominates even though he looks like a fuckin 40 year old alcoholic.
But this is such a selection bias. Because when he’d clearly not be ready to play people would continue to make excuses for him and then give him all the credit for his receivers grabbing jump balls for a TD. It’s absurd how one sided people judge this guy’s playing abilities.
Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"
by Ed Van Chimp on Jul 24, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Stay away from Philly farve
My mojo so dope. BITCH!
Revis Island, NA continent, Jimmy Smith's EGO
by dday on Jul 24, 2011 2:08 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If Kafka is my other choice...
I think, I’d much rather have Favre as a backup. That’s if he honestly wants to back up Vick tho.
No way.. Groom the young guy, Kafka's at least a 2nd rounder in 2-3 years when we trade him.
Our young QB’s are Monaaaay
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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i think Khafka can get it done.
This is his 2nd or 3rf year in the offense. I think he can take over for a game or 2 if needed.
i dont
think he is. I just dont trust him he has absolutely no experience. all we know is the coaches are high on him wich doesn’t really tell me anything because its not like there gonna say he sucks.
And if R. Kelly goes to jail, I'LL PISS ON YO' CAT!!
by Riley Freeman on Jul 24, 2011 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well no real game time experience
And if R. Kelly goes to jail, I'LL PISS ON YO' CAT!!
by Riley Freeman on Jul 24, 2011 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He really is the NFL version of Rasputin.
by 92-74-99-96 on Jul 24, 2011 2:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I remember when I brought this up months ago I was crazy and than Gargano ran with it now this
xEgan on Twitter
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2011/5/12/2168169/would-you-want-brett-favre-as-vicks-backup
Good for you
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
by Ralf E Chubbs on Jul 24, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
What if Kafka just texted some pics of his junk to female staffers instead; could we just call that close enough?
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
If Favre comes to the Eagles, I will not root for the team until he leaves.
True story.
I hate Brett Favre. He sucks monkey tits.
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by DSmith215 on Jul 24, 2011 3:25 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I actually dislike Favre more than I dislike Kolb.
I would rather have Kolb as the backup quarterback. Now that’s saying something.
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by EvilBanner on Jul 24, 2011 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Eagles dont need this
Every year there was some Mcnabb controversy and last year it was Kolb speculation. This is the first year the Eagles havent had an offseason sideshow. The only thing they have to worry about is getting better and signing a few key pieces. I really dont feel like watching eagles games and having to see them pan to Farve every drive.
"Philly fans are the greatest in the nation" --- Anyone with common sense
Here's my theory
If Vick goes down, it wouldn’t surprise me if Reid/Marty have already talked to favre (he’s retired so they could talk during the lockout) and he’s very interested in playing in our sic ass offense in just an emergency situation… what quarterback wouldn’t want to throw to our guys… in an offense he knows… with a coach he loves…
^Nights Of Cabiria
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Jul 24, 2011 6:27 AM EDT reply actions
issue is that Favre can't throw no more.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Im alright with this.
The problem with Favre is he can’t hold up to a full season as a starter, he’s just too old. His joints won’t hold up. When healthy, he is still a top 15 QB in this league (kind of sad actually). If he is going to be signed, I don’t want to wait for Vick to go down. I want him in practice building chemistry with our offense.
Yeah all the other stuff is true as well.. he’s a diva…. doesnt like going to training camp… likes young female reporters a little too much…. but this stuff is no secret by now everyone is very familiar with who Brett Favre is and what to expect. Besides we would be looking for a temporary solution here and Brett would be a great stop-gap for us. He can go sit in his corner of the locker room and wait for his number to be called… think “break glass in case of emergency”. If in this emergency would you want to have Kafka or Favre (future first ballot hall of famer)?
If Farve decides not to be a total douche, he could be a great mentor to Kafka and fill in while Vick is getting his concussion tests every time he gets sacked. Kafka needs mentorship and Vick is too busy catching his breath from runnng for his life to an effective game-day teacher.
I’d so much rather see Donny McN doing this however.
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Couldnt agree more about DonnyMac coming back. As long as he doesn’t teach Kafka how to consistently throw the dirt ball on 3rd down though.
by Archangel357 on Jul 24, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't hold your breath
Farve has had three opportunities to mentor young QBs and he hasn’t done it yet. When Rodgers was drafted, Favre was quoted as saying that he wouldn’t help him.
by Tracer Bullet on Jul 24, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
OMG, I remember that. But that was when he thought he would be top dog forever. I wonder if a man can change when he looks in the mirror and sees time the avenger.
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This was all I needed to see
WIP’s Howard Eskin was doing an appearance on his other gig on NBC 10, and said that the idea of the Eagles pursing Brett Favre as a backup when Kevin Kolb is traded is “possible.”
It might be possible for me to get a blowjob from Megan Fox in the parking lot of The Linc. Granted a lot of things would have to fall into place and its a long shot, but I thought I would get myself excited about it first. Oh yea and a winning Powerball ticket too.
by Bono Hit My Car on Jul 24, 2011 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Yeah. You’d need a new face, too.
:)
JK, your post was LOL.
Whoever you are, when I log off, you cease to exist.
Yours truly,
H.R.H Emperor Iggy of the Internet, forever to be known as the InterEmperor.
HA!
I always did have a face for radio
by Bono Hit My Car on Jul 24, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
No Favre...
I’d rather Kafka play for a season than have Favre as the backup.
I don’t want them panning to his old pruned ass every 4 seconds, I don’t want the “who’s Reid going to start” bullshit when Vick has a bad game or two… I don’t want Favre’s broken down ass attempting to throw the ball, he completely lost his arm last season, he can’t go for the long haul…
We’re better off with Kafka.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
At the right price (and who knows how much money Favre will command)
I really would not hate this, media circus aside. Given Vick’s injury history, you almost need a back-up with experience that you are comfortable with. Unless I am missing somebody, you are left with Favre, Matt Hasselbeck, and Marc Bulger as the options. If the Eagles want someone comfortable with their offense system, then that eliminates Bulger. So between Favre and Hasselbeck, given equal (low) price tags, I’ll take Favre.
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Let's put the price tag at $3M a year, presumably for only one year (he's 41, turning 42 in October how long of a contract can this be?)
I’d sign Favre to be Vick’s back-up. In a heart beat.
And I am in no way a huge Favre fan or anything like that. But if you think about, 41-year old Favre being a back-up in Andy Reid’s system? From a football perspective, it makes sense if you think about it. Which is probably the craziest part of all this.
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In what way does signing a terrible Qb to be a back up make sense. I’d honestly rather take my chances with Kafka.
Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"
by Ed Van Chimp on Jul 24, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
a). He’s old, and to borrow a way too often used phrase has more guts than brains, but he’s not terrible.
b). Being a Holmgren QB, he is already familiar with Andy Reid’s system, so there is no learning curve for him.
c). When searching for a back-up to an injury prone QB such as Vick, you want a known commodity, as chances are, you are going to have to turn to him for at least 1 or 2 games during the season. Favre is a known commodity. Mike Kafka is not.
d). Favre can mentor Kafka for a year and groom him to be the long-term future Eagles back-up.
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a) throwing interceptions is not guts, it’s stupidity. A hallmark of his play the last decade
b) half the QBs in the NFL have studied under a Holmgren disciple
c) Favre is a known commodity, we know he sucks. I’ll take the guy with potential who could be a good back up for the next 5 years, has mobility behind our OL and no tape on him.
d) “I’m not here to be a mentor” – Brett Favre
Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"
by Ed Van Chimp on Jul 24, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Right. Because no other QB throws interceptions other than Favre. And every Favre pass is an interception.
Give Favre a small 3-game sample, and who knows what could happen. Just because he was not great last year, does not mean he could have a few good/lucky games this year.
When did Favre give that quote? Certainly not since his latest retirement. Things could change.
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Give Favre a small 3-game sample, and who knows what could happen. Just because he was not great last year, does not mean he could have a few good/lucky games this year.
Grammar fail. I got caught up in my negatives. That should read: “Give Favre a small 3-game sample, and who knows what could happen. Just because he was not great last year, does not mean he could not have a few good/lucky games this year.”
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No other QB throws as many…. at such inopportune times.
“Give Kafka a small 3-game sample, and who knows what could happen. Just because he has little game experience, does not mean he could have a few good/lucky games this year.”
When somebody asked if he ever mentored Aaron Rodgers. And no, don’t say out of context because there is no context in which Favre does not look like a dick with that statement.
Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"
by Ed Van Chimp on Jul 24, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
No other QB throws as many…. at such inopportune times.
Evidence? Or is this just perception bias which may or may not be true? Unless you have numbers involving Favre’s passes in certain game situations in comparison to other star/veteran QBs and have done a thorough analysis concluding that Favre throws INTs that are his fault at a greater rate than other QBs, I’ll just assume the latter.
"Give Kafka a small 3-game sample, and who knows what could happen. Just because he has little game experience, does not mean he could not have a few good/lucky games this year."
Right. So who is to say the same can’t happen with Favre. Proven commodity familiar with Reid’s system or unknown who has only been in the league one year and has not played much under Reid’s system. If Favre would settle for $3M or less, I’ll take him for this year over Kafka every day of the week. And twice on Sunday.
When somebody asked if he ever mentored Aaron Rodgers. And no, don’t say out of context because there is no context in which Favre does not look like a dick with that statement.If he did say this because for the record I can’t find this quote anywhere (link would be helpful), then two things: You know his stance on being a mentor has not changed in three years, how, again? And so what if Favre is a dick? I’ve followed football the past several years. I know what Favre is about. Favre being a dick concerns me about as much as the smell of the next shit I take. If he’s willing to settle for a back-up role and back-up money, he can say all the dickish things in the world in circle jerk interviews with Peter King. As long as he does job and performs well in spot starts when Vick is ailing, it would be a low-risk move I would not mind at all.
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Evidence?
He’s thrown the most interceptions of any QB ever. I can innumerate the hilarious number of terrible ones if you’d like. Off the top of my head he ended his teams season with playoff INT’s in 2003, 2007, 2009. He essentially ended the Jets season with a barrage of INTs in 2008. He almost broke the NFL record with them in 2005. He threw 19 in 13 games last year and that team never had a chance. He’s an interception machine.
So you’ll take a media circus for a guy who we hope doesn’t suck over developing a back-up QB for the next several years? Really?
How is Favre a proven commodity? Please elaborate on this. Seriously, I’m not kidding you keep throwing it out there like it’s accepted fact. It isn’t. He’s a turnover machine, he’s over 40+ years old, he’s a media shitstorm waiting to happen and he hasn’t even been that good the past 10 years.
Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"
by Ed Van Chimp on Jul 24, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
This one is getting intense.
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He’s thrown the most interceptions of any QB ever. I can innumerate the hilarious number of terrible ones if you’d like.
Considering the fact he started 297 games from 1992 to 2010, none of this is a surprise. Interceptions are a given. And when you play more games than just about everyone, you are going to have more interceptions than just about everyone. I do not need you to give anecdotes of hilariously awful interceptions. They happen to everyone at some point.
Off the top of my head he ended his teams season with playoff INT’s in 2003, 2007, 2009And you are 100% positive these are all on Brett Favre? Interceptions can be caused by defenses making a good play and wide receivers running bad routes too. A QB can do everything right and still get charged with an INT.
So you’ll take a media circus for a guy who we hope doesn’t suck over developing a back-up QB for the next several years? Really?Right. Because one year of Favre as a back-up means everything about Kafka’s development is ruined. I can’t imagine a scenario where the Eagles sign Favre to more than 1-year. And at low pay, it is a low risk move with little investment. The Eagles are likely signing a veteran to back-up Vick with Kafka as a 3rd string anyway. While the name is to be determined, is Kafka’s future really going to be significantly different if the Eagles give a 1-year contract to Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger, or Alex Smith as opposed to Brett Favre?
How is Favre a proven commodity? Please elaborate on this. Seriously, I’m not kidding you keep throwing it out there like it’s accepted fact. It isn’t. He’s a turnover machine, he’s over 40+ years old, he’s a media shitstorm waiting to happen and he hasn’t even been that good the past 10 years.Do you not know what you are getting with Brett Favre? He is a known (proven) commodity. You know what you are getting with him. The same can be said for Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger, and Alex Smith. By the way, if you want to see me hate the Eagles FO for something, root for the Eagles to sign Alex Smith. Now that would be a terrible choice.
Wasn’t Favre good in 2009? Wasn’t his team in the NFC Championship in 2009? Oh, wait, he threw an interception at a coincidentally bad time and therefore he was not good the whole year. His age in addition to the hits he takes is most certainly a concern, however, in a back up role, you obviously take less hits so there is less of a chance that he plays through pain and does something dumb on the field because of that pain. As far as the media shitstorm goes, the Eagles signed Michael Vick right after his prison sentence for dog fighting. Favre media storm? That will be a tame breeze compared to the media storms Vick brought in when the Eagles signed him in 2009.
Do yourself a favor and check out Brett Favre’s page on Pro Football Reference. You will find that your statement of “[Favre] hasn’t even been that good the past 10 years” is not true at all.
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Not that I agree with everything EVC said…but two things he is right on.
Favre definitely ended 2 of his last three playoff games on absolutely awful picks. Not just awful in the sense of timing, awful in the sense that they were ill advised, horrific throws that if the defense had one guy on the field at the time he would have managed to make the INT. He also blew it in the Jets playoff game but it wasn’t a pick that actually ended the game.
And Favre did say he was not a mentor, it was in response to the Packers drafting A.R.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I can't stand brett fave, i do not want, besides...
From a purely football stand point, if our offensive line doesn’t significantly improve, a 41 year old Favre would stand no chance back there. Yes we drafted Watkins and while he appears to be solid, you really don’t know for sure.
NFL, I am disappoint.
its not an offseason, unless ESPN is covering Philadelphia hardcore and all the local steeler fans think they know what’s really going on.
Pass on Brett unless its november, vick goes down for sure, favre is unsigned, and is willing to sign a 4 month contract.
I don’t see him turning down a contract to go somewhere that loses in the Kolb/Orton race.
I would like to thank my hands for being so great, for allowing me to type this post.
by corn on the kolb on Jul 24, 2011 11:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
This isn’t going to happen. When the FO is really planning to pull something off, we don’t hear about it in advance from anonymous “team sources.” And Howard Eskin is about the last person on earth to whom the information would be leaked. Think about when we signed Vick — huge decision, but not a whisper of it got out.
by Clyde Simmons 96 on Jul 24, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
very true
VERY true. The Eagles decisions always come like a lightning bolt. whispers and rumors are usually dead ends.
by Archangel357 on Jul 24, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Just for the spectacle
I say go for it. The most he’ll be on the team for is a year, anyway.
"I like prime rib and I'd love to win a Super Bowl. I'm hungry for both of them." -Andy Reid
Jay Glazer:
Let’s end the uproar now, 2 Eagles sources tell me an emphatic No to Favre coming there to back up Michael Vick. Not the option they are on
I think that about ends that.
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Signing Farve would also go against the youth movement going on with the Eagles
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