About Desean Jackson

by Jeff Sun on Jul 22, 2011 10:24 AM EDT

Desean Jackson gets flak for a lot of things: his supposed arrogance, fragility issues, not playing up to his full ability, unwillingness to go across middle...

I was watching the 2009 NFC Championship Game - you know, when McNabb had a 2.2 Passer rating in the first half - and wow: Desean Jackson looks like a much different player. In the first quarter, McNabb tried fitting in a pass into triple coverage, and it got intercepted. Desean Jackson comes back, chases the ball-carrier down and causes a fumble to give it back to the Eagles.

After watching that play, I made sure to look for Desean Jackson at every opportunity I could - he was going all-out: dishing out blocks for Kevin Curtis, running post routes and just generally doing what you want your all-around receiver to do.

My conclusion is that in the past two years the Eagles coaching staff has made him conform into the home-run threat so he doesn't have the same mentality that he had as a rookie. Back then, he wanted to win, and now it just feels like he's trying to make the weekly SportsCenter highlights. Of course, some of this is probably because of his insanely stupid contract. Of course you can't blame this on the Eagles staff it's really because of the old CBA (?) which overpays 1st rounders and underpays 2nd rounders when history has shown they have nearly identical success rates.

Just my thoughts on D-Jack.

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Well, I don't think he packs it in but I do agree...

at times that do not use him effectively. He seemed to run many go routes, skinny posts, drag posts and corner patterns last year to stretch the defense. The problem was, with all that success, the offence became easy to read. Also, keep in mind, our defense was so inconsistent last year. Andy’s thoughts were to score early and often to make the other team tweak their offenseive gameplan.

by Sikahema on Jul 22, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions

disclaimer: if you’re a pro WR, you run the risk of being a diva.

don’t think that’s the intent of the coaches, but it might be a result of the makeup of the rest of the offense’s roster as well as the play calling. anyway, this has been a less than uncommon topic of discussion for desean, so i guess we’ll just have to wait and see how he does this season. i’m not saying he has to prove himself, but it doesn’t hurt to know that he’s going 100 percent every week.

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by Bleediots on Jul 22, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions

I think hes been a pretty standup guy this off season..

(despite the gay slur) He hasn’t talked much about his contract and seems to be in PR mode

by Sikahema on Jul 22, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

agreed. couldn’t be happier about that.

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by Bleediots on Jul 22, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't expect that kind of play again anytime soon

His near career ending concussion last year will make him a softer player from here on in IMO. Unless he suddenly puts on 20 pounds of muscle….I expect more of the same as last season…

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by BWestFactor on Jul 22, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions

The concussion came from being hit in the head and having his head snapped back, it has nothing to do with how big he is nor how much muscle he has. This argument is absolutely incorrect.

by The Reddgie on Jul 22, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Not exactly

he wasnt hit in the head, more hit with a helmet in the shoulder/chest area causing his head to snap back and then his head hit the ground.. but to say that this has nothing to do with size isnt really true, a guy his size getting caught not ready to be hit is always going to be bad. so if it was Brent celek u think he would have been hurt just like desean was? didnt u see the avant block against the giants on the punt return.. this was an even bigger collison since both guys were running down field, sure the giants guy was hurt but both he and avant walked away from it after the game.. in deseans case both guys were injured, and missed the next game. celek took kill shot after kill shot last year the few times he caught passes..

by EagleEyes on Jul 22, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions

From the Wall St. Journal, the first article that came up when I googled “concussions in football.”

The injury generally occurs when the head either accelerates rapidly and then is stopped, or is spun rapidly.

Now tell me, what does DeSean putting on 20 pounds of muscle have to do with preventing cranial acceleration and then a sudden stop?

by The Reddgie on Jul 22, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions

It wouldn’t protect him from a shot to the head, but it would make a concussion less likely from a shot to to body.
How much less likely a physicist could calculate, but think about it. If he put on 2000 lbs of mass all 11 players could hit him full speed and he would not suffer a concussion because they would feel the effect. Hell, they might all suffer concussions.

20 pounds would help. Maybe just a little, but it would help.

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by waterfield on Jul 24, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions

R u serious

U do know that games like the giants game, the cowboys game among others came after the concussion right??? its the COACHES fault when he is under utilized, he cant make the plays himself.. Marty has to find a way to get him open from the triple team long enough to get a ball in his hands

by EagleEyes on Jul 22, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions

exactly

by Sikahema on Jul 22, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m sick of hearing the criticism that he can’t go in the middle or is not tough. Desean has made many catches in the middle which moved the chains… and a handful that he took to the house. The hit that got him the second concussion was illegal and would’ve knocked out just about any WR. He has only missed a few games in 3 seasons!! Not that bad. Plenty of bigger, “tougher” guys tear ACL’s without even being touched (See Stewart Bradley, Brandon Graham).. Desean had made hussle plays including TWO forced fumbles after ints, including the one from the NFCCG… He helps out blocking downfield for Maclin too. If you want your top receiver to recklessly expose himself for a 5 yard pass on 3rd and 10, just think, is that really helping the team? IMO he contributes more to the team if he’s on the field than in rehab. Oh and by the way, I recall a legendary punt return touchdown made by said WR who ran straight up the middle of the field with bigger guys barreling full speed at him from the other direction.

by MikeCampy on Jul 22, 2011 12:12 PM EDT reply actions

i agree with you...

but i think we can both agree that he isn’t as aggresive as before

by Jeff Sun on Jul 22, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions

The fact that he still returns punts says enough about his toughness. Returners are big hit bait.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jul 22, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions

good point

by Sikahema on Jul 22, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Lets not forget that he is like 5'10 175-180

For those few ppl that cry “He doesnt go over the middle” or “he doesnt break tackles” lets be real, a guy his size shouldnt even be a main target let alone ur best target, but he is not just a 5’10 180 pound wr he is a PLAYMAKER whatever pos your playmaker plays its up to that team to give him chances. You cant be a playmaker if ur not tough specially at deseans size and the “He’s just fast” speech is old because it takes more than just “Speed” to elude defenders at this level. Since im from Arizona (currently in Seattle) i dont really get to many chances to go to an Eagles game, but i was at the NFC championship game vs the cardinals and was watching desean that whole game and he is nothing but tough.. if not a lil stupid for taking on guys that he takes on but he was special to watch.. and that catch over DRC for the lead…. goes with me to tha grave.

by EagleEyes on Jul 22, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions

damn

that game was one of my favorite arizona’s crowd was really pumped up too

by Jeff Sun on Jul 22, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Game was EPIC... well almost

I think that was the game to put Jackson’s ego/confidence on full blast bcuz he played lights out in our biggest game of his rookie yr. I Cant believe we let Fitz Go crazy like that, he looked amazing also.. and i didnt know it at the time but that was BDawks last Game he would play in Eagle Green (and also Jim Johnson’s last game he would coach for us). But Eagle fans are the best… i sat directly in back of a row full of all cards fans but luckily I was in front of a row of like 10 Eagles fans (from philly) and they were hilarious… we had the E-A-G-L-E-S ringing… it was tough for a long part of the game since we were getting killed by the cards but we remained calm, talked over the stat line at half time, yelled at a few cards fans and then that 3rd qr and the beginning of the 4th when Mcnabb gunned that long bomb too Djack for the lead… priceless. Until the part where old men with bad sun tans cried their eyes out cuz the Cardinals were going to the superbowl.. that was hard to swallow. But as that was my first Eagles game.. ill take it

by EagleEyes on Jul 22, 2011 2:47 PM EDT reply actions

man

and i forgot about that retarded non-call on kevin curtis at the end…

what happened to curtis anyways he wouldve been a good 3rd/4th option on our team right now

by Jeff Sun on Jul 22, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions

He had testicular cancer and I think he's on the Dolphins

Rivals beware

by starship 007 on Jul 22, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions

You're wrong...

I saw numerous times last season where Desean got down the field and blocked for McCoy, I believe McCoy’s 50 yard run opening the 2nd half against the Giants is a prime example.

Also take a look at some of Maclin’s long plays, Desean got down there and laid some blocks for him.

In fact what’s really impressed me about Desean and Maclin is their willingness to block. They’re always blocking or at least getting a body on somebody to free someone up… Hell even some of Vicks runs I saw Desean block.

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by wild_eagle on Jul 23, 2011 1:22 AM EDT reply actions