Report: Redskins Will "Take What They Can Get" To Keep Albert Haynesworth Away From Eagles
by JasonB on Jul 14, 2011 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintJason LaCanfora, who was a beat writer for the Redskins with the Washington Post before joining the NFL network, wrote an interesting story today about the Redskins post-lockout free agency plans. Basically, he says they plan on going after multiple big names.
Of course, before doing that they will likely have to shed themselves of big, albatross contracts like Donovan McNabb and Albert Haynesworth, who will both be very tough to trade because of those contracts. That said, with contracts like those gone, the Skins will have a lot of room to play with under the projected cap.
The article has a litany of players the Skins will reportedly pursue, but the note of most interest to Eagles fans is what LaCanfora has to say about their plans for Albert Haynesworth.
Team sources maintain that they can't foresee the Redskins keeping either quarterback Donovan McNabb or defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth. Receiving much for either in a trade will prove quite difficult given their contracts, and several team sources believe Shanahan ultimately will take anything he can for Haynesworth. The Redskins are particularly concerned that if they release Haynesworth, he will sign with the NFC East rival Philadelphia Eagles and reunite with his former Tennessee Titans position coach, Jim Washburn.
I've always found this a curious way to do business. This idea of trying to "keep a player away" from a rival. I think that any time you do something that isn't 100% geared toward making your team better, you are doing your team a disservice. Plus, it's all just a guess. No one even knows whether the Eagles would want Haynesworth if he was cut. The only reason anyone thinks they would is because they employ his former defensive line coach. Is that enough to make Shanahan paranoid?
In the end though, getting something for Haynesworth is better than nothing, which is what they'd get if they cut him. It will be interesting though to see what a team would be willing to give up to take on his contract. He's owed $12.6 mil over the next two years (and then silly money after that), which is a pretty big number for a guy that just might give you absolutely nothing. The Redskins might actually have to send something of value with him to get another team to take that on.
If Shanny did that just to keep him away from the Eagles (who may or may not even want him), then he's hurting the Redskins.
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Wait, the Redskins are afraid that Haynesworth might HELP the team he signs?
There’s more wrong with that front office than I had originally assumed.
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Comparison:
Mike Shanahan is afraid of Haynesworth of potentially helping a rival team, so he’ll harm the Redskins to keep him away from the Eagles.
Reid traded McNabb to the Redskins – because he didn’t a shit about helping the Redskins but wanted to improve the Eagles.
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by Imp on Jul 14, 2011 6:36 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Wow Shanny has legit brain problems
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Do you hear that? That's the sound of the media ramming the Miracle at the New Meadowlands down your throat for the rest of your life...BAHAHAHAHA....
He’s owed $12.6 mil over the next two years (and then silly money after that), which is a pretty big number for a guy that just might give you absolutely nothing.
or a pretty small number for a guy who might be a defensive POY
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 14, 2011 7:49 AM EDT reply actions
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Chris Canty got a 6 year / $42M contract from the Giants. That’s the market rate for DL.
Would you rather have Canty for $7M/yr or Haynesworth for $6M/yr?
I guess its debatable but considering the going rate for DL I really don’t see $6M / yr for Haynesworth being an expensive number.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 14, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s about 5% of your cap if the rumored cap figure is to be believed. That’s not money teams usually spend on a “what if” type player.
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by h2o_34_35_44 on Jul 14, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he still is. It wasn’t like he was a model citizen in Tennessee. He gave more effort than in Washington, but the guy still had his problems.
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Even with Washburn, I think Andrews is still a what-if. And if his attitude is not right, I wouldn’t want another Andrews-style headcase eating up the Eagles time, money and coaching resources. Albert may not be injured like Shawn was, but his play I saw last year showed me he isn’t very motivated to play, at least for the Skins.
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He wasn't motivated because of the scheme change, then shit got personal.
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I'd be pissed, too.
So maybe you are right. I suppose they could monitor his physical condition – remember how he failed the physical for the Skins last year at training camp? And get Tony Dungy involved to OK his attitude – It sure worked well with Vick. Then I would say, “Gopher it!”
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Honestly, I'd look into his physical condition..
but I think there was no way he was passing that fitness text Shanny was giving him, they singled him out and got on him and then made it harder and harder.. Shanny used that to try and gain some sort of dominance over Haynesworth and it didn’t work.
We don’t need Dungy, Reid will just have to explain “we have 3 very young, very talented DT’s behind you, if you fuck up I’ll cut you like I did TO… You want to work with Washburn? You want to be in the system you were at your absolute best in? Then you play by our rules”
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
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The problem with this is that any other GM in the league would trade for Hayneworth then trade him to the eagles in a better trade. Say trade Hayneworth for a 7th and the Eagles give the middle man team a 6, hypothetically of course
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Well, Redskins can put into the agreement of “If you trade Haynesworth to Eagles, you must give up multiple first round draft picks.” I believe Packers did that with the Jets with the Favre trade a few years ago.
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So why would that team take Haysworth then in the first place if they couldnt. …they wouldnt…and he would remain with Skins to be cut. Shanahan is in a lose/lose situation with this guy regardless….
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by BWestFactor on Jul 14, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
LOLSkins
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by Eagles02 on Jul 14, 2011 9:48 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I can see why a team might trade for him
If they have to get to the salary floor AND they want to avoid a bidding war. Otherwise, why burn the picks? The LOLskins HAVE to cut him at some point if they can’t make a trade.
The [sic] Redskins might actually have to send something of value with him to get another team to take that on.
Wouldn’t a Haynesworth + McNabb twofer be extremely funny?.. (i know, never happen).. but still the idea of “Hey, if you’re willing to take Fat Al, we’ll supersize it by adding in a McRibb for 39c!… Would you like some fries with that?”
You are just a sic dude.
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RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
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by Imp on Jul 15, 2011 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they will likely have to shed themselves of big, albatross contracts like Donovan McNabb and Albert Haynesworth,
the Redskins post-lockout free agency plans … they plan on going after multiple big names.
They WILL get rid of both Al and Don. This is a threat to the Eagles FA plans: ie, Nnamdi, Reggie, Plax, Free, etc… you name it. And now, they want to fuck with us by playing keep away. Fuck you skins! I have been waiting for TOO DAMN LONG for free agency, and now they suddenly think they can be a contender?!?! Who the hell do they think they are??
There is an upside:
If they do go on a spending spree, it means they haven’t learned their lesson and will continue overspending in free agency and pissing away draft picks instead of accepting that they have to take the time to build a team the right way.
by Tracer Bullet on Jul 14, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
how about ...
Haynesworth + Orakpo … we can use a LB since Ernie was disappointing.
by thePurpleLion on Jul 14, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
If Orakpo were to play here we would probably put his hand in the dirt full time. I know his first year he played Sam & also put his hand in the dirt but I have a feeling he would do it full time here.
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by h2o_34_35_44 on Jul 14, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
True
Also the Redskins would never give him up. They love that dude and he’s more or less the best (only) solid young talent with star potential on their roster.
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We think like winners. TO to Dallas? Dhani to NY? McNibbles to Wash? So be it. Our focus is doing what’s best for OUR team.
The lolskins’s front office has that losing mentality, because they’re already worried about losing. They need to scrap that, help Fat Albert pack his bags, then drive him up 95 to Philly.
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by goodfella46er on Jul 14, 2011 10:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Cobb'd
I meant Carlos Emmons to NY. Obviously the bow tie killer came here.
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by goodfella46er on Jul 14, 2011 10:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cobb'ing aside
I think you hit the nail on the head. The Redskins think like losers. “Oh no, we can’t be embarassed by our FA decisions again!” What a joke of a team.
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Jul 14, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly.
"This is one of the top 10 biggest bonehead trades in the history of the NFL."
-Washington Redskins TE Chris Cooley
by goodfella46er on Jul 15, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
this story
has more potential than Jason Pierre-Paul
The first Drauschak.
by birds'n'raiders on Jul 16, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha Skins
Im going to put it out there now…the skins will get offered NOTHING for McNabb or Fat Al, because everyone knows they cant keep them if they want to do all these big FA moves they are squawking about. As a result they will try to cut them both late and be forced to pay their salaries while another team comes in and picks both guys up for free. This is the Dan Snyder buisness model…..praise be to Snyder
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by EvilBanner on Jul 14, 2011 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Haha
We put a deep, deep mindfuck on Shanny and co. I wonder how many other teams we can make crazy without actually having to do anything.
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by KeepSwinging on Jul 14, 2011 10:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Its all media speculation. Shanny wouldnt tell anyone what is really on his mind anyways. He’s as two face as they come…
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by BWestFactor on Jul 14, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Well the Giants, for one
We just need to keep beating them. And for @CutonDime25 to keep tweeting
I recently was talking to a Skins fan on the street and he seemed hurt when I said I don’t really consider the Skins rivals. They’re just another team we play. I don’t particularly give two shits about them other than hoping they continue to fail because they deserve to fail. I have no respect for the Redskins.
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Jul 14, 2011 10:41 AM EDT reply actions
someone post
That awesome circle flow chart of the redskins being off season winners, and then pissing their picks away while everyone gets old.
I would like to thank my hands for being so great, for allowing me to type this post.
by corn on the kolb on Jul 14, 2011 10:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
here ya go
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by David_K on Jul 14, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ashley Fox
She has an article on Harrison on ESPN.com. I guess she won’t be covering the eagles anymore.
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by alcatraz0109 on Jul 14, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Sweet!
She’s clueless …. we’re better off…
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by BWestFactor on Jul 14, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey its mine too…lol …Maybe itll happen…
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by BWestFactor on Jul 14, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Smokescreen
This is a smokescreen from Shanahan. He’s trying to spur the Eagles to offer a pick for Fat Al. Like any used car salesman — You’d better take this deal now! If you walk out now someone will scoop up this great deal before you come back!
In contrast to this talk, Shanahan’s actions show nothing but disdain for Fat Al. I don’t believe for one second that Shanahan watches the tape from last year and worries about Fat Al playing for the Eagles.
In any event, Shanahan (who is currently trying to sell the idea of John Beck as his starting QB to the DC media) has far bigger things to worry about than who the Eagles’ DTs will be.
by Clyde Simmons 96 on Jul 14, 2011 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I don't think Shanahan is trying to sell John Beck ...
… I think he legitimately is ready to hitch his wagon to dude. If Shanny cared about PR, he would’ve stuck it out with McNabb.
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I do think you have to take anything reported
with this amount of detail, right before player movement is allowed to begin, with a HUGE grain of salt. How nice that LaCanfora was able to stumble upon the entire “Redskins plans for the offseason” memo and reveal it all for everyone to read.
Rec for that point.
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“I don’t believe for one second that Shanahan watches the tape from last year and worries about Fat Al playing for the Eagles.”
Not a bad point….
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I think Shanahan has lost it.
It’s kinda sad, he use to be such a good coach and his players actually seemed to like him once he get guys who’d listen to him in there.
That McNabb trade really was a fuck up by him, Haynesworth just doesn’t care he’ll sit on his ass and get his 60mill anyway.. And now he’s putting out reports that Beck’s their next QB and that he’ll essentially trade a happy meal for Haynesworth rather than get anything of value and ship him to Philly.
I seriously pity the Redskins fans.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Haynesworth
Im a Giant fan I would take Haynesworth in a second for 2 years 12 million its well worth the risk. I wouldnt want to see him in Philly with Trent Cole thats for sure. I have a feeling if he get let go to another team he is going to have a monster season. If he ended up on the Giants on the line next to Canty ,Tuck and Osi he would produce I guarentee
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