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My top 5 targets in FA.. and my 5 "no-go" guys.

Loooong offseason with nothing to talk about...

 

Well here's basically what this is.. A wish list for the 5 players I'd like to see in Eagles Green (in order) and why.. Now this doesn't mean I expect to get anybody, this doesn't mean that I'm crazy, I'm not looking at cap, I'm just listing the 5 guys I want (there are more but I could write for years)... 

then...

I'm going to list the 5 guys I think the Eagles should avoid and my justification as to why.... 

***Note, I'm assuming under the new CBA UFA's will only need 4 years.

Star-divide

Top 5 FA's.

5. Bruce Gradkowski, QB (Oakland)- Bruce is a guy who pretty much plays like Jeff Garcia. He's a fiery type of guy, doesn't have elite mobility but enough to move up and makes some plays, he's got a decent arm and is generally pretty accurate. The reason I have him in at #5 is because we're pretty much certain to deal Kolb and while I love Kafka and I know the Coaching staff does to you just have to get somebody in who can back up Vick for another year or two. Gradkowski's that guy, he did it in Oakland where he was actually leading the team to wins before he got hurt, he did it with the Buc's for a few years.. He's basically a Jeff Garcia clone in my mind.

4. John Kuhn, FB (Green Bay)- Kuhn was tendered, which under the leaked CBA beliefs would make him available. Now people let's not jump off the deep end here.. With Weaver most likely being finished, Havili being a rookie whom I don't give two turds about and Schmitt being solid-yet-unspectacular we need to bring in a guy, and Kuhn would instantly upgrade the FB position and he's got a pretty good ability to actually run the ball like Weaver did in 2009.. Now if we cannot get him then we stick with Weaver or Schmitt.

3. Quintin Mikell, FS (Philly!)- Not ready to let this guy go yet, he's still got some left in the tank.. We need a veteran presence who can stay healthy in our Safety core to help Nate Allen and Kurt Coleman mature a little more, and teach Jarrett how to be a SS in the NFL. I think resigning Mikell would be a smart idea especially with Nate Allen saying he's only 85% as of right now.

2. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB (Oakland)- Best CB in the game of football, he'd make us instant contenders and would really make our D a top 10 caliber group. I don't think I need to say anymore on him since we all pretty much have this wrapped up.

1. Doug Free, OT (Dallas)- Free's one of the better OT's in the game, he's played RT up until the 2010 season and he did a pretty good job at LT last season. Signing him would take our OL which was boarderline decent and make it special, and with his ability to block the blindside of the QB and his background at RT it'd be an easy transition for him.. That and it'd cripple the fuck out of Dallas which is what pushed him to my #1.

 

My 5 to avoid:

5. Antonio Cromartie, CB (Jets)- Cromartie's the biggest joke I've seen, he's not physical, he's not a ballhawk, he's unspectacular and he's just plain stupid. I don't want this guy anywhere near Philly, I'd rather play Hobbs at RCB than this clown, and I hate Ellis Hobbs as a player.

4. Richard Marshall, CB (Carolina)- Somebody put it like this in the comments of one of the other fanposts (can't remember who it was or which fanpost so sorry bud)... Take a guy who guesses as much as Asante but fails 80% of the time and that's Richard Marshall for you... 

3. Thomas Davis, LB (Carolina)- I actually love Davis as an LB, I like the way he plays, I like how he plays, he's a guy who 2 years ago or even last year I would've taken in a second.. But in 2010 he suffered his 2nd ACL tear in 2 years and that's what's landed him on my avoid list. I'll admit if the Eagles sign him for cheap I'll be ok with it but I'd rather just avoid this Marlin Jackson-like player.

2. Ray Edwards, DE (Minnesota)- Ray Edwards is a guy who everybody overhypes. Put anybody opposite of Jared Allen and next to the Williams Bros and they'll do what Edwards does. At 6-5 270lbs and being decently quick for his size he SHOULD be dominating opposite of Allen, the thing is that he plays like he's unmotivated and like he's just waiting for a big payday instead of earning it so what happens once he loses the only motivation to play well? I certainly don't want to find out first hand.

1. Gloxico Burress, WR (Prison)- We don't need Plaxico, we don't need another guy who's come out of prison, it worked with Vick yes, but we're not miracle workers (we being the coaching staff).. You all will say "But we need a big WR who's a RZ threat" and I'll reply with Jeremy Maclin had 7 of his 10 TD's in the Redzone and was actually one of the better RZ receivers in the NFL in 2010.. You'll say "we need a big body who can win jump balls/run the fade route" and to that I say Riley Cooper, he's 6-2 222lbs and has a 33 inch vert. Also Cooper excelled at the Fade and jump ball situation as UF, trust me as a Kentucky Fan I saw plenty of them.. My final point as to why we should avoid Gloxico is that picking him up would completely kill Coopers growth, Cooper would move to 5th on the depth chart, Hall would be gone and Cooper would probably never see the field til he's dealt or Plax shoots himself again.

 

Please feel free to make a list of your own on this comment section, let's try to avoid 40000 fanposts on the same subject.

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I’m all for getting Ray Edwards.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

why? he's a joke.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 28, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because he isn’t a joke? Compare his numbers to Justin Tuck’s over the past three years:

Ray Edwards: 40 QB Hits, 77 hurries, 21.5 sacks, 142 tackles, 17 stuffs
Justin Tuck: 29 QB Hits, 54 hurries, 29.5 sacks, 202 tackles, 26 stuffs

And look at their stop rates against the run from last year:
Ray Edwards: 78% stop rate (3rd in the NFL), 2 Yards a play on plays he was directly involved in (23rd in the NFL) and the left side of the Vikings line (his side) allowed 3.29 yards per carry when the opposing team ran behind the right side of the line (6th in the NFL) and allowed 2.26 yards per carry when the opposing team ran outside the right tackle (1st in the NFL).

Justin Tuck: 85% stop rate (1st in the NFL), 2 yards a play on plays he was directly involved in (23rd in the NFL) and the left side of the Giants line (his side) allowed 3.35 yards per carry when the opposing team ran behind the right side of the line (7th in the NFL) and allowed 3.78 yards per carry when the opposing team ran outside the right tackle (14th in the NFL).

Ray Edwards is one of the most disruptive defensive ends in football that doesn’t get his due because he plays across from Jared Allen. Ray Edwards is a complete beast who would destroy in Jim Washburn’s system. And do I need to remind you how athletic this guy is? He is 6’5" and 275 pounds and he has great explosion (39" vertical at the combine), strength (30 reps of 225 at the combine) and length. The guy is a beast, he would instantly become the most talented defensive end on the Eagles (not the best, Trent Cole is a beast).

And then whenever Graham gets healthy you would have a three headed pass rush that was only rivaled by the Giants. Could you imagine having Trent Cole lining up at RE with Ray Edwards and Brandon Graham moving around creating mismatches other places on the defensive line?

Could you imagine having to face this:
RE- Trent Cole
NT- Trevor Laws
UT- Ray Edwards
LE- Brandon Graham

That would be scary. Ray Edwards would be a great addition to the Eagles.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that he was saying Edwards numbers are inflated by the circumstances he plays under. I believe that he was labeling Edwards as the Vikes’ line Ringo equivalent. You wanna sign Ringo Starr to a recording contract?

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jun 28, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ringo’s music was pretty good actually. At least some of it was.

Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"

by Ed Van Chimp on Jun 28, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not as bad as people make him out to be...It's not an insult to be the 4th best beatle...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZfAik7wP8U

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 28, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly lol.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ringo gets a lot of shit

but every time someone covers a Beatles album, the drummer almost always comes up saying something like “I had no idea how talented and important Ringo was to the Beatles until I played the White Album blah blah blah…”

He does simple drum riffs, but just because he didn’t change the course of music for drummers like the other band mates did doesn’t make him a bad drummer at all. He was amazing. And good point by greenbean, Being the 4th best Beatle is not a bad thing.

"I don’t know whether I prefer Astroturf to grass. I never smoked Astroturf." - Joe Namath

by David_K on Jun 29, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ringo gets shit because of who he is being compared to, 3 of the greatest musicians of all time. He was good, and there is nothing wrong with that.

by The Reddgie on Jun 30, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Graham

is a long shot to ever be dominant

Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.

"The way I figure it, if my heads gonna pop off it's gonna pop off anyways" - Ellis Hobbs on the possibility of his neck breaking.

by MightyJoeBanner on Jun 28, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

the fact that he sucks.....

"if you’re going to act like bitches, then I will treat you like bitches". - AR

Do you hear that? That's the sound of the media ramming the Miracle at the New Meadowlands down your throat for the rest of your life...BAHAHAHAHA....

by theaction on Jun 29, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

How can you say he sucks after getting hurt in his rookie season? He is going to be much more comfortable in Washburn’s system whenever he gets back on the field. He was a QB’s Nightmare at Michigan. Give the kid some time.

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"When I'm dead and buried, and my time here has passed. I want them to bury me upside down, so my critics can kiss my ass." - Bob Knight

by James_C on Jun 30, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The reason I say he will be more comfortable in Washburn’s system is because it is similar to what he did at Michigan. Just fly around the edge, no read and react BS.

formerly jdcvr6

"When I'm dead and buried, and my time here has passed. I want them to bury me upside down, so my critics can kiss my ass." - Bob Knight

by James_C on Jun 30, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

His injury

he wasn’t dominant before it and coming back after surgery and being better than before usually doesn’t happen.

Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.

"The way I figure it, if my heads gonna pop off it's gonna pop off anyways" - Ellis Hobbs on the possibility of his neck breaking.

by MightyJoeBanner on Jul 3, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

that if Reid built his team based upon the stats the players had playing for other teams, that the Eagles would not be as successful as they have been.
I understand your point of view but I don’t think Reid and now Washburn share it.

"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson

by waterfield on Jun 29, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why would we play Ray at DT?

that’s stupid… He’s not that good.

He struggles against OT’s 1 on 1, if you put a TE on him or double him he’s non-existent…

The guy’s the Finnigan of the DL.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why would we play Ray at DT?

that’s stupid… He’s not that good.

Because he has the type of ability to move around ala Justin Tuck to get favorable match-ups.

And he very clearly doesn’t struggle against one on one blocks. I’m trying to find evidence of this but all I could find was this (do yourself a favor and mute it). Ray Edwards pretty much just flew over the running back, are you really going to turn away a guy with that type of ability? Go rewatch the game against the Cowboys and then try and tell me this guy ‘sucks’ and ‘struggles against 1 on 1 blocks’. That’s some BS if I ever saw it.

Ray Edwards would be the best left end that Andy Reid ever had here in Philadelphia.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 29, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way, Ray's not even close to Tuck, just because he's got size doesn't mean he's got the ability.

Yes, I mentioned the Cowboys games, the only time he produces is when the opponent talks shit to him..

He does struggle against 1v1 blocks.

And no, I think it’d be a massive mistake to bring in Edwards

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

inflated stats

this guy plays in Minnesota …. with Jared Allen, Kevin Williams and big boy Pat Williams
he is not the focal point of the opposing team. You have a decent enough argument for Justin Tuck

by wagone on Jul 1, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly lol..

His stats are inflated yet still pedestrian

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 1, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

our oline could be one of the best

If we added free and watkins turns out even close to projections

by CSJones on Jun 28, 2011 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

If we add Jared Gaither or Doug Free in free agency that would be fantastic.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I expect the Eagles to make a move like this

while we all salivate over CBs and DTs and WRs, they’re going to add an O-Lineman or an LB or someone we didn’t expect.

Can never have too many good OL.

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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Jun 28, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they add Free I would be supper dupper excited. 1. sure up the right side 2 weaken the cowboys

"Learning to eat soup with a knife"

by h2o_34_35_44 on Jun 29, 2011 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

supper dupper?

i lol’d. fuck weakening the cowboys, i want a ring!

by fr33thinker on Jun 29, 2011 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

what about both?

wouldn’t adding Free weaken the Cowboys? Yes.
Wouldn’t adding Free make our OL better? Yes.
Wouldn’t giving Vick ample time to pick apart defenses give us a better chance at a ring? Yes.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t want Gaither, primarily because of his injury issues. It sucks because he is a very talented tackle.

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

"Yeah, I like to hit people"
-Brandon Graham

by immynimmy on Jun 29, 2011 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to avoid Gaither because he has some back issues and I don't want another Shawn Andrews.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly lol. I'd love it.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce Gradowski sucks, why the heck do you want him? He is garbage.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Have you looked at the back-up QB options available? While he’s not a guy that you want as your #1 QB, he’s serviceable and probably the best among a list of shitty options for #2. Pun intended.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jun 28, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d stick with Kafka over Gradowski.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get the hard-on for this guy either

He’s okay, but okay is his ceiling.

I’d rather have Tarvaris Jackson or Alex Smith, who are also okay but still have room to get better under the Eagles’ tutelage.

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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Jun 28, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

What kind of ceiling are you looking for in a back up QB...

He just has to be servicable for a couple games IF Vick has to miss a couple….They need to be comfortable that he can get the job done; what was AJ Feely, Garcia, or Detmers ceilings? Kafka is the one they’re developing….

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 28, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Leads team to win if starter is out" is the only criteria

for a No. 2 QB, so we agree there.

But given the QBs that are out there, the guys who have talent and are more likely to be better QBs (i.e. more likely to lead team to win in absence of starter) are the guys who have all the tools and just haven’t completely put it together yet, more than a guy who has maxed out his mediocre ability.

I’m not gonna get up in arms about it, but it’s important to have someone in that No. 2 spot that we can turn to in a pinch. In Week 1 of next season, maybe Gradkowski’s the best guy we could get this side of Hasselbeck or McNabb.

But I think after a half-season or more working with the Eagles’ coaches, Tarvaris and/or Alex could be really beneficial to have. They both have the tools, and just haven’t worked with the right kind of talent or have wilted under the pressure or what have you.

Seems if you’re adding someone and your choices are “okay and best he’ll probably ever be is okay” or “okay with the chance to be pretty good” you’d take the latter. But that’s clearly all opinion on my part.

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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Jun 28, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce Gradowski doesn’t do anything particularly well.

Does he have arm strength? No.
Is he accurate? No, check his 53% completion percentage.
Is he a winner? The 6-14 record in career starts would suggest not.
Is he a risk taker? The 5.7 YPA would suggest not.

There is nothing appealing about this guy other than the fact he once beat the Cowboys and played decently for a couple weeks on the Raiders.

Give me Thigpen, Bulger, Volek, Troy Smith, Dennis Dixon, Drew Stanton, Matt Moore or Vince Young over this guy. Gradowski sucks.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 29, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

if he had good stats...

he’d be a STARTER…..Gradkowski can get the job done, and is a serviceable back up…And if you’re gonna list numbers to help your cause, DON’T list players with the same numbers…I could go through every qb you named and mock every single one of them; the same way you did BG…

Also, how many of those guys are actually FA’s?? Dixon isn’t…. I’d like Tom Brady, and Peyton to back him up before I would want BG…That list is a joke, I’m happy for your opinion of BG… Outside of VY, there’s a not a guy I would consider to be far and away better than BG….and you’d have to TRADE for VY…

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 29, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dennis Dixon is a free agent. And you really are underestimating how much Gradowski sucks.

Bruce Gradowski: 3,883 yards, 5.7 YPA, 20 TDs, 23 INTs, 53% completion percentage

Tyler Thigpen: 3,167 yards, 6.4 YPA, 21 TDs, 17 INTs, 54.2% completion percentage
-He is a far superior athlete who has better arm strength and is a more capable scrambler.

Mark Bulger: 22,814 yards, 7.2 YPA, 122 TDs, 93 INTs, 62.1% completion percentage
-A steady veteran presence who is a proven NFL QB that has been accurate and had success when surrounded with good talent.

Billy Volek: 3,754 yards, 6.7 YPA, 27 TDs, 15 INTs, 60.1% completion percentage
-He is about as good a back up as you’re going to find, he never panned out as a starter but he is a good back up. He has a great arm and can really stretch the field and as you can see he doesn’t turn the ball over and his accuracy is adequate.

Troy Smith: 1,734 yards, 7.4 YPA, 8 TDs, 5 INTs, 51.7% completion percentage
-Troy Smith is better than Gradowski by a lot. Troy Smith has a better arm, is more mobile and has proven he can be a good spot starter. His accuracy leaves something to be desired but he is a game changing back-up with his athleticism. He is younger too and his ceiling is noticeably higher.

Dennis Dixon: 402 yards, 6.8 YPA, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 59.3% completion percentage
-He looked very good as the Steelers’ starter before he hurt his knee. He was completing 68.8% of his passes and had 7.9 YPA. He is younger, more athletic and provides a much higher upside than Gradowski does. He has a good arm and has been timed in the 4.4s in the 40 yard dash.

Drew Stanton had a good year last year.

Matt Moore: 2,640 yards, 6.7 YPA, 16 TDs, 17 INTs, 57.9% completion percentage
-Matt Moore in 2009 was much better than Gradowski has been at any point in his career. Moore has starter talent but he needs to be coached up.

And all the players I listed are higher caliber players than Gradowski who is a complete scrub. What does he bring to the table that Mike Kafka doesn’t? In game experience? That’s about it.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 29, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

im not going to get in a long winded argument with you about your/my opinion...

Dixon was drafted in 2008; so he’s a RFA if he’s a FA….you have an opinion from what you saw from him; just like you have an opinion on GB…you can dislike my opinon of GB all you want (i also like Dixon)….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjZGWIIPTMw If you’ll notice at 3:40; he throws the ball 50 yards with ease…another 52 yarder at 7:25….what’s this weak arm garbage argument; and he’s familiar with the west coast offense….call him a complete scrub all you want; don’t understand the hatred; not saying he should start

all the players i’ve listed are high caliber….HAHAHA…bulger is high caliber? troy smith couldn’t be out alex smith…volek is how old now?? Drew Stanton had a good year? you’re comfortable w/ DREW STANTON, but not BG…hahaha…You make a case for these guys as if they’re Montana and GB is Ryan Leaf…it’s too funny.. I don’t understand the odd bias..

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 29, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I said they were higher caliber players than Gradowski (which doesn’t take much).

And I don’t have a bias against him, Gradowski just isn’t good.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 29, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

and that's your opinion and you're entitled to it...

i respectfully disagree….

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 29, 2011 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Drew Stanton

is garbage….no way would I take him over B-Grad. Same goes for Volek and VY. I do like Dixon and Moore over BG. But Bruce aint bad…he would be serviceable back up

by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Jun 29, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoever said Dixon has a weak arm is an idiot

by The Legend on Jun 29, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are you talking about??

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 29, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

live in pittsburgh, and steelers are 2nd favorite team

and trust me, dennis dixon just isnt really that good. dont get me wrong, i really really like the guy and root for him like hell cause i loved watching him at oregon. but when big ben was out, there were times that it was hard to watch the steelers offense because of dixon

by bwblaney on Jun 29, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with this. Dixon's nothing but a career backup.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

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by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson

by waterfield on Jun 29, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are the Math-familiar JIBTA

"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson

by waterfield on Jun 29, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

===

If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.

by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jun 29, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have reasons for choosing BG over them

I like Thigpen but I think he’s returning to the Dolphins because I believe he’ll challenge for a starting spot there.

Mark Bulger’s shell shocked, he’s comfortable in Baltimore and even Kurt Warner who talks to him has said he doesn’t think Bulger ever wants to be a starter again.

Bill Volek’s old as fuck.

Troy Smith is garbage, he couldn’t beat out Alex Smith and when he did play was pretty unimpressive.

Drew Stanton is garbage.. Absolute shit.

Matt Moore.. He’s not very good either.

Dennis Dixon has knee issues.. I like him, I wouldn’t be mad if we took him but I’d rather have the healthy guy.

And all the players I listed are higher caliber players than Gradowski who is a complete scrub. What does he bring to the table that Mike Kafka doesn’t? In game experience? That’s about it.

Exactly lol.. I would be more than OK with Kafka as the #2 QB in 2011, but I’m just saying I’d be comfortable with a guy like Gradkowski who’s average in every sense of the word but has experience.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

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by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would take Dennis Dixon in a second but he fucked his knee up twice now.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly,

Gradkowski would be a Garcia, Detmer or Feeley.. And Kafka would be the guy being developed under Reid and Marty.

Gradkowski gets us a solid backup QB who won’t destroy Kafka’s growth like an Travaris Jackson or Alex Smith would.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Umm

Look at what he did in his rookie year (2006) and the past 2 years as the backup QB..

He’d be the absolute best option to be the backup QB out of who’s available and obtainable… I’d like to go with Kafka, but you have to have a guy with some experience.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look at what he did in his rookie year (2006) and the past 2 years as the backup QB..

I did. You can too. He’s not that good.

"There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact it's all dark."

by alcatraz0109 on Jun 29, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy christ,

you people are expecting a guy who produces like a starter to be a backup?

Listen, if we get the production that Tampa got his rookie year then we’ll be fine with him being a backup QB.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're delusional...

They all want Brady to be Beldsoes back up….B-Grad is more then serviceable….apparently they don’t remember when detmer, feeley, or Garcia led us to the playoffs or victories…..They expect the FO to go out and get a starting caliber qb that’s going to want to sit behind vick….

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 29, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes exactly, it's annoying as fuck.

Garcia was suppose to be done before he got here, Feeley was shit anywhere else but here, Mike McMahon made plays and won some games.

B-Grad’s better than Feeley, better than Detmer, better than McMahon and maybe a notch below Garcia (when he came to philly)…

I think as a backup and if he had to play 2-4 game for us he’d be more than capable of winning some games especially in a QB friendly system.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I might be better than McMahon. I’m just sayin’

I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!

by dweebowitz on Jun 29, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

and I don’t even know who you are. while I think Gradowski would be a good back up, and I liked Feeley and Garcia in that role, McMahon was complete shit!

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

by Talon Talent on Jul 1, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t say that. Don’t put words in my mouth.

I’d rather have someone with a little bit more upside/veteran presence as the backup. I’m not expecting our backup to be starter-caliber (though that would be nice), but is it too much to expect our backup to have better than a 65.9 career rating? I bet Kafka could do better.

Don’t forget that Detmer/Feeley were also playing at the peak of our great defenses. Garcia did do a little more but he was more of a starter whose stock had gone south than a career backup, as evidenced by his tenure in TB.

"There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact it's all dark."

by alcatraz0109 on Jun 29, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

it wasn't meant to you personally....

it’s the sentiment on this page, people want a starter as the Eagles backup…

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 30, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course

just look back two years ago… we had McNabb as the end of the road veteran pro-bowler, team record holder for everything , backed up by Kolb with a huge upside who managed to throw in a few offensive player of the week awards in his first nfl starts, backed up by another pro-bowler who went to a superbowl with almost no talent around him. It is easy to get spoiled when you have three guys who can start almost anywhere and many teams are struggling to find a warm body for the position.

by ATLeagle on Jul 1, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather not have a crappy backup. At that point I’d rather take my chances with Kafka.

"There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact it's all dark."

by alcatraz0109 on Jun 29, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just give me Asomugha

I don’t think people realize just how ridiculous Nnamdi and Asante on the same team would be.

Douggie would be a solid addition as well, no doubt, but we’ve got an offensive line. What we don’t have is another starting cornerback.

by cwel87 on Jun 28, 2011 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I really am starting to think the Eagles are prepared to start Trevard Lindley.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

They passed on Jimmy Smith and Brandon Harris. And it’s been reported that one of the reasons Sean McDermott was fired was because he didn’t get Trevard Lindley play time even after Patterson and Hobbs were continually getting burned.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just curious, but do you have a link to where this was reported? I don’t remember hearing about it

by DawkStillBleedsGreen on Jun 28, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Report.

I know that one of the reasons defensive coordinator Sean McDermott was fired was because he didn’t get Lindley on the field enough. The Birds were getting torched at the right cornerback position with Ellis Hobbs and Dimitri Patterson, but he didn’t give Lindley much of a chance after the Chicago game.

The front office thought McDermott made the coverages too complex for Lindley to grasp and kept a guy off the field who could have done the job at the right cornerback position.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

GCobb

There’s your problem right there.

Kidding aside, even in that report, it’s a leap to go from “McDermott didn’t play the young guy enough” to “Eagles are going to ignore CB in free agency and start Lindley.”

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by D3Keith on Jun 28, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went from this:

McDermott didn’t play the young guy enough

To this: The Eagles want to get the young guy playing time.

That’s really not a stretch.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad, you confused me when you wrote
I really am starting to think the Eagles are prepared to start Trevard Lindley.

If you meant

The Eagles want to get the young guy playing time.

You could have written that and avoided all this.

(also me not picking fights to pass the last hour at work could help us avoid this, but never mind that)

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by D3Keith on Jun 29, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

look at these guys

showing off their quoting skills

by TheDtrain on Jun 29, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

look at these guys
showing off their quoting skills

I know

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

by Talon Talent on Jul 1, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont agree with him judging Lindley against Sam Shields though, Shields got a bit more experience:
Shields –
Played in 14 games
Started 6

Lindley -
Played in 11
Started 1 (Week 17 v. cowgirls)

by DawkStillBleedsGreen on Jun 29, 2011 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Castillo has said he’d like to see Lindley on the field more but I wouldn’t trust GCobb on anything, & if we are unable to land a CB I do think Lindley is the frontrunner to start.

by The Legend on Jun 29, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec

d-jackfan is driving himself nuts off speculation.

I don’t think people realize just how ridiculous Nnamdi and Asante on the same team would be.

Uh, I do. Make it happen cap’n.

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by D3Keith on Jun 28, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m driving myself nuts because I think the Eagles might give a second year player who played well in his first year a shot at the starting job? Interesting.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Eagles have said nothing to indicate

they would ignore adding a FA CB and start Lindley. In fact, they’ve done quite the opposite, publicly acknowlegding their need for a corner.

Given that their hands have been tied — and it’s not like they’ve been sitting on them through free agency and then the draft — yes, you are driving yourself nuts off pure speculation. As I said.

If free agency comes and goes, or if someone in the organization expresses confidence that Lindley can and will be the starter, then I’ll march in the worry parade with you.

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by D3Keith on Jun 28, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said that Lindley is “Plan A” but when the season starts I don’t think they would feel bad about Lindley starting. Andy Reid said they’re “fine” at CB and I think that if it comes to it he’ll be just fine with starting Lindley. They’re prepared to let him start.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I disagree

Let’s leave it at that.

I think they’re prepared to let Lindley take Hanson’s nickel job if he shows the right kind of improvement, especially given what Joselio makes, but I don’t think there’s a chance in hell that with the money they have to spend, the way this franchise values corners and the number of good ones on the market that they’ll let Lindley start.

They could get Carlos Rogers easy, for a reasonable cost, and have it be a major upgrade. Why would they just not do anything, even if they love Lindley?

(guess I didn’t leave it at that)

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by D3Keith on Jun 29, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now you did.
Lindley is "Plan A"

by d-jackfan10

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by waterfield on Jun 29, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

to make that legal

you have to put … in front of Lindley

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

by Talon Talent on Jul 1, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey he never said they indicated..

He said he just feels the Eagles are going to go forward with Lindley.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I "feel" that Jessica Alba is going to sleep with me

She’s never said anything to indicate that, but apparently I can go around trumpeting it as a realistic possibility! Cuz I feeeeeeeeeeeel

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by D3Keith on Jul 1, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok

He never said they indicated. He just stated his opinion that the Eagles may move forward with Lindley.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 2, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've been feeling that too..

And I like it.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I started my last post about an hour ago

But that was more to address speculation and not my own list. Here’s my top 5

1. Haynesworth- I have done a 180 on Albert, he makes to much of a diff to pass on him when he is motivated to both player for Wash and destory the skins 5 mil

2. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie- Contract is cheaper than some kickers and he has good ability but tons of room to grow. Oh and he’s tall. Bottom line, he’s an upgrade for next to nothing Est Salary- 1 mil

3. Lawerence Vickers- Blocked for 2 1,000+ yard seasons for Jamal Lewis when he was past his prime and last season for Peyton Hillis. Good receiver as well. Est Salary- 2 mil

4. Tyson Clabo- Blue collar type lineman coming off pro bowl season at RT. Not a pressing need, but championship teams have championship lines. Est sal – 8 mil

Steve Weatherford- Downed 20 punts inside the 10 last year, Sav downed 3. Also great on kickoffs. Est sal 1.5 mil
Grand total of 17.5, room to resign Vick and Jackson

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by MidwesternEaglesfan on Jun 28, 2011 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Vicks contract is already included in our current cap...

whatever it is (16-18mil)…im sure they’ll bring that number down w/ an extension as soon as they can….

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 28, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good list...

But I mean FA’s.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Manny Lawson...

to play WLB….

Kuhn would be a great short yardage FB but he doesn’t get the ball thown to him; so he doesn’t fit on paper…unless he can catch and doesn’t get the ball…Id rather bring in a RB like R.Brown and keep Schmitt/Havili…Maybe Mclain if im bringing in a FB that doesn’t catch much…Or go all out for Leach..

Don’t really need the vet leadership of Mikell if we get NA, i think the Eagles are OK at safety.

Everything else i pretty much can agree with, but i don’t mind the thought of bringing in Edwards or Plax…I can understand both sides for both players; personally i like Edwards size…

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 28, 2011 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Manny Lawson? The 3-4 LB from the 49ers? I’ll pass on ‘Mediocre Manny’.

Why do we need a short yardage back? LeSean was one of the best short yardage backs in the league last year.

by d-jackfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Short yardage back is what Kuhn is, so it was in response to that...

Plus the FB’s i listed are good lead blockers…don’t remember much of kuhn doing that…

Manny Lawson sucks in a 3-4 and would be a better 4-3 will backer….been looking at him since Willis said he wanted him back, and I read somewhere (think it was a Lawlor article), that he would be a good fit at WLB..There hasn’t been much talk about the Eagles and a LB FA signing…I think it’s the one spot I’m not comfortable with the LB’s that we have…Most comfortable if Stu regains his form as the MLB and Chaney is moved to WLB…but i like the idea of Lawson at WLB if Stu is let go….MANNY/CHANEY/MOFO….

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 28, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I like Manny

But I dont get why people keep talking about signing a FB. Why??? I like Owen and I personally think Havili has a ton of potential. I like the Havili pick more then the Dion Lewis pick.

by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Jun 29, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know...

how you could really like one more than the other….Havili was never really asked to do much besides go out and catch passes; he’s a large wr in the backfield….Got to see if he can lead block and pass protect….They’re both rookies, Dion is the more exciting pick since he’s like Shady…

Idk, I guess since the Eagles tried to convert anything and then signed Weaver, everyone has FB on the mind even though it doesn’t mean much…I don’t know why they would get rid of Owen..Not too worried bout them doing anythign on offense, outside of getting a stud RT…I want to see some name DEF FA’s…

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 29, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Schmitt..

It’s just Kuhn is Kuhn lol.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

see my comment below....

I’m right with you!!!!!

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 29, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny Lawson sucks in a 3-4 and would be a better 4-3 will backer

That is pure speculation. manny has been playing for a few years now and hasn’t shown the ability to be anything more then adequate. We already have adequate and somebody who is younger that has the same opportunity to flourish. Bypass Manny and let Clayton get his feet wet.

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Mike Vick is a piece of shit

by Talon Talent on Jul 1, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for pointing out the OBVIOUS!!!....

you’re very astute…only it’s not just MY speculation..(yes if i can find the articles i’ll show you others opinions)..he has the proper abilities for the position, he just hasn’t really played it..

They’re both good in coverage, and I would feel more comfortable with Lawson at WLB than Clayton…it’s just my opinion….and we certainly don’t have ADEQUATE…i most certainly don’t call clayton anything near satisfactory; we havn’t seen enough from him yet….If we let Stew walk, I’d like a veteran LB to be brought in…I’d like Chaney to WLB with the current LB’s…

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jul 1, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

your welcome

And yes we do have adequate. I don’t get why people want Chaney at WLB. To me he is either a MIKE or SAM. As far as wanting someone more proven i get that, I just don’t think he has proven so much that he should get automatic starting position over someone who looks like he can be our WILL for years, even if it is a small sample size. The sample size doesn’t get any bigger if we keep putting people in front of him. I agree on bringing in a veteran LB if Stew’s gone, but I’d rather bring him in as a back up and mentor.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

by Talon Talent on Jul 1, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec’d just for the last part.

formerly jdcvr6

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by James_C on Jun 28, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahaha..

I’d love Mathias Kiwanuka.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Juqua is overpaid, but he’s been underrated. He seems to be our best DE against the run (i dont have the stats, i just notice him more than anything) and he’s productive.

by Mc5 on Jun 30, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

first 4 games we were getting raped in the running game.

then we replaced Jordan with Fokou and Graham with Parker as the starters and our run D went from bad to very good lol.

I think Dixon had a lot to do with it also.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 1, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i agree haha

i dont think we have to keep Juqua because he’s making what, 5 mil this year? i just dont think he;s gotten due credit

by Mc5 on Jul 1, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure, Kuhn is a rookie, making him a RFA, and anyways I wanna to stick with Schmitt.

He became one of my fav eagles. A great run blocker and while he isn’t spectacular in the passing game. Its fun to see him make something happen after the catch, usually a funny hurdle. He might not be great as a pass catcher, but he fights for yards and that’s what i want from a position that is dying.

"If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent." - #5
"Or if the rest of the defense if even decent then
our two Rookie safety’s don’t have to go all Ed Reed-Palamolu-Dawkins-super sayan badass mode to help us win." - W_E
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.

by number5 on Jun 28, 2011 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Rookie?...

Dude is 28 and been in the league for 5 years….I like keeping Schmitt if he doesn’t smash is head w/ his helmet anymore..

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 28, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha...

I would die if the Eagles signed him; I LOVE when they scream his name….I know it’s wrong, but it’s funny…I’d get his jersey before the ink on his contract dried….

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 28, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think I’d call him a “great” blocker. I think he people get that idea from that monster block he had (during what I think was the 49ers game). He’s effective, but not spectacular, at least from what I can remember.

If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.

by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jun 28, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say he's better than Kuhn

"If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent." - #5
"Or if the rest of the defense if even decent then
our two Rookie safety’s don’t have to go all Ed Reed-Palamolu-Dawkins-super sayan badass mode to help us win." - W_E
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.

by number5 on Jun 28, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t really know since I haven’t watched him play all that much, but that wasn’t my point.

If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.

by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jun 28, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schmitts a better blocker...

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope..

He’s 28, and has 5 years in the NFL.

And so what if he isn’t spectacular in the passing game look below.

FB A- 15 receptions for 97 yards and 2 TD’s.

FB B- 19 receptions for 136 yards and 1 TD.

Fullback A is Kuhn, Fullback B is Schmitt.

To much focus on the passing game in regards to a FB.. Nobody will ever be like Weaver.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m friends with Kuhn on facebook because he went to my high school, i blast his page with Eagles stuff all the time, i found a bunch of legit packer accounts on there and do the same thing, like Aaron Rodgers HAD one, and Jordy Nelson..

but i digress, Kuhn would be a good signing but i dont think its necessary. he gets a lot of touches in Green Bay.

by Mc5 on Jun 30, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know he gets a lot of touches in GB.

But Kuhn could play some RB for us, he is solid on special teams etc.

He’d be a poor man’s Weaver and honestly if we don’t get Harrison back we could roll with Lewis, Buckley and Kuhn as the backups to McCoy.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 1, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

my point is i dont think he’d leave Green Bay to get less touches with us

by Mc5 on Jul 1, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dont agree i think plax would be great for the team

by eaglesinmd on Jun 28, 2011 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

What makes you say that?

If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.

by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jun 28, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beacuse

He was good in NY before the time off, leg wound, older, Probably even slower then he was before, Learn a new system on the fly, outta football shape.

But hell im in

by greenage on Jun 28, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The point that seems to be overlooked here often ...

… is that we all have our wish lists, preferred RCBs and what we hope to get for Kolb.

But the real overarching thing is that we can come up with all these scenarios and make them realistic because the Eagles are primed to move.

Given that they have already addressed the line, made the coaching changes, and had a decent draft, PLUS they have Kolb to trade and money to spend, whatever they end up doing I’m sure we’ll all quibble with, but they are going to be a better football team than the one that nearly beat the Super Bowl champion Packers.

No matter what they do, assuming they address RCB and replace Kolb at No. 2 QB, we’re going to have a contender. All our wish lists are gravy.

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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Jun 28, 2011 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

My top 5:
 
Johnathan Joseph
Albert Haynesworth
Mathias Kiwanuka
Reggie Bush
Tyler Thigpen

I want Stewart Bradley and Quintin Mikkell to be resigned as well.

Other players that I am intrigued me are:

James Lee
Jeremy Trueblood
Jared Gaither
Manny Lawson
Rocky McIntosh
Thomas Howard
Santonio Holmes (why not?)
Jacoby Jones.
Michael Spurlock
Kevin Smith
Vernon Gholston
D’Qwell Jackson

by Noble Psychopath on Jun 29, 2011 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

what the hell is a tyler thigpen?

"I was the first option on the play and the quarterback made a great throw. I landed on my shoulder and neck and blacked out for a little while, but I'm fine now." - Djacc

by Eagles02 on Jun 29, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a Kevin Kolb outside of Philly….

FLY #7 FLY !!!
In MUDD I trust !!!

by BWestFactor on Jun 29, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Vernon Gholston

LLLLLLOOOOOOLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!

by Troy O on Jun 30, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why in gods name would you be intrigued by Vernon Gholston? Surely you’d prefer a more rewarding activity than signing him to your team, like band sawing your own dick off.

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by Bro Namath on Jul 1, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Qwest made the comment about Marshall

"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson

by waterfield on Jun 29, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

My top picks ...

First off, my picks are expensive and understanding that, I only suggest we take 4, not 5 people.

1. Nnamdi. Big hole. Best CB in league. Easy.
2. Haynesworth. Asshole, yes. Talented, yes.
3. Doug Free. Dont have the faith that some have in Justice. I think Justice should have been gone 2 yrs ago. Upgrade + give Jerruh Jones a big black eye, you bet your ass I’d do it!
4. Plaxico Burress. I still think he will be cheaper than most expect and, even if we use him primarily as a decoy, that leaves lots of room for DJACK and MAC.

by thePurpleLion on Jun 29, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Uhhh...

I like your list but I was hoping for only FA’s.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 29, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot about Gholston...

I’m sure MOST will disagree, but he could be had for the minimum; just to see what he can do as a 4-3 end in this system….He’s my pick for “Washburn saved my career” player of the year..

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jul 1, 2011 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Fuck Gholston.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 1, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank you for that....

hate him all you want, he’s not my brother…..im talking about bringing him as a look and see in the preseason…He continues to suck, you cut him w/ the 53 shake down….His confidence has to be shot, and he’s not gonna get much in a contract; it’s worth a shot to see if Washburn can rebuild him…I don’t think it’s a crazy idea, and I don’t think we need a big time DE to be bought in. A cheap “lets see” option at DE and spend the FA money on CB, LB, DT(only Haynesworth really), and possibly an RT….

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jul 1, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck Gholston.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

by Talon Talent on Jul 1, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

golf clap....

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jul 1, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

by Talon Talent on Jul 1, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude.. Even DE's who have issues early on

like Babin.. atleast do something lol, even Babin had a few plays.. I can’t remember 1 play where Gholston did anything worth while, I like him coming out of College, but in the NFL he’s not able to do shit.

He’s done. I’d rather just sign Babin.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 2, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

You NEED to trust me here

You don’t want him.

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by Bro Namath on Jul 1, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude i live in north jersey...15 mins from East Ruth..

Ive watched many Jets games, have Jets and Giants buddies…..I know as much as you do..I’d like to give him a chance to play on the line in a 4-3…. see if he can still do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yot9ClPvZDg ….he’s only 25, and i think he needs to be better motivated…he didn’t work in the 3-4….just sayin I would like to give him a chance; not expecting him to be a beast…he won’t cost anything to look at in the preseason…

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jul 1, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defense, defense, defense

If Mikell is gone (and all signs are that he is), this team has several huge questions on defense including LDE, RCB, and SS. Just not a very good unit that doesn’t have much depth right now.

by MG77 on Jul 1, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

0.5

Lots of opinion, not much substance. Try to be more objective and do more research like MidwestEaglesfan.

by IggleGreen on Jul 2, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'll write whatever the fuck I please and I'll do as I please.

I don’t need to be more objective this is a list of 5 guys I’d like and 5 guys I would not. Simple as that.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 2, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

0

Nothing personal, but this is just not up to the level of professionalism of the other posters. And your response makes you sound like JIBTA, Jr.. I think you’d be better off if you just respond to the posts of people who are better at this than you.

by IggleGreen on Jul 2, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol,

I wrote a piece completely based of opinion. I don’t see you ever post anything.. My shit barely ever get’s O’d.

It’s alright, obviously you have some issue with me for some reason. One day when you grow up and become a man (by your attraction to me I’m betting a gay man) you’ll understand this is a blog, and while people of all different writing abilities and writing styles are here, some will be better, am I up to Jimmy, Jason, Bob, d-jackfan10, BBI? No. But what I write is good enough to evoke conversation and a though pattern in those who choose to read (which I doubt you read) and that’s all I hope to achieve.

Also, I fully understand you want to call me JIBTA Jr, go for it, I honestly don’t care… Do yourself a favor and quit acting like a child who just lost a bet to his friend.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 2, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well there is the problem right there, Jr. You are comparing yourself to Jimmy, Bob and the others and your are not close to any of them in the quality of your posts. You should show some humility and respect for these people and shut up and listen every once in a while.

If I want to listen to someone uninformed opinions about the Eagles from someone who is more mouth than knowledge, and have them pick fights when someone doesn’t agree with them, I’ll go to my local bar and sit down next to the first drunk I can find.

Hence the comparison with JIBTA. You have gone from being a nice respectful kid two years ago to a big mouth that is full of himself and too busy talking to listen.

So there it is. Take it or leave it.

And BTW, while I have a wife and a kid, I got no problem with being called a gay man. I know and have served with too many gays to take that as an insult, you ignorant, homophobic child.

Whoever you are, when I log off, you cease to exist.
Yours truly,
H.R.H Emperor Iggy of the Internet, forever to be known as the InterEmperor.

by IggleGreen on Jul 2, 2011 6:14 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Note: this reply was to Wild_Eagle, who has positioned himself as the new JIBTA.

Whoever you are, when I log off, you cease to exist.
Yours truly,
H.R.H Emperor Iggy of the Internet, forever to be known as the InterEmperor.

by IggleGreen on Jul 2, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have a wife and kid, yet nothing better to do than to rip an amateur writer on an amateur football blog for not writing at a professional level? Do you read the posts here? At least W_E’s are substantive, which is a lot more than can be said for 50% of the shit we get here.

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by DeSean10 on Jul 2, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

d-10..

Is what I write really that bad? I’m sure it’s not ideal, I’m sure it’s not exactly what people want to see, I know I have my spelling errors and grammar fuck ups but really?

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 2, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

its readable and that’s all that matters

by CSJones on Jul 3, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

And that's all I'm trying to achieve.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 3, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll be completely honest with you here. If I’m gonna rate the quality of your posts from 1-10, with 1 being the bottom of the barrel trolls and 10 being the best writers (D-jack and the Big 3), I’d put you around a 7. And I don’t think that’s anything to sneeze at; we have some excellent writers here, and I’d put you on my top 20 contributors here as far as posts go. As far as commenting, you’re one of the best, a solid 9 out of 10. Like I said, your posts are substantive. They contain solid opinions, good analysis, and are thought-provoking, even if grammar/spelling and style are a bit below the bar set by the writers I mentioned above. It would be a shame if you stopped posting.

Hopefully none of this came off as me being a jackass, I just want to be completely unbiased here so i don’t sound like “W_E is god and can do no wrong in his posts.”

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36-5-20-JJ Bleeding Green Forever

by DeSean10 on Jul 3, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO honestly no this was no jackass-ery.

I didn’t think I was above a 5 on my fanposts.. and my commenting is wild yet effective.

And honestly I admitted to IggleGreen that I wasn’t one of the best and that I was average at best yet he kept saying I thought I was Jimmy or Bob or Jason lol.

And all I look for is to write some longer pieces, have solid (and hopefully) unbiased opinions, a good analysis and I like to spark a conversation with what I write… What most on here probably don’t know (or care) is that I have some bad learning disabilities, I couldn’t read til I was in the 3rd grade, I’ve got bad dyslexia and to top it all of I have 2 different central auditory processing disorders which make it very difficult for me to put what I’m thinking into writing, my grammar and spelling mistakes stem from my learning disabilities.

So yeah, I’m more than happy to be average when it comes to the things I write, to be honest this site has helped me a lot as far as trying to get what I think across and actually writing better pieces.. In my own mind I’m overachieving and I am more than OK with that.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 3, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

by Talon Talent on Jul 4, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

ahaha,

Yeah I mean I’m not fucking retarded, I just have a hard time sometimes.. I’m a million times better than 3rd grade, I couldn’t read till about halfway though but I was doing physics so I looked like a badass.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 4, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, having a ‘big boy’ life means a lot of nights home with the baby and little time to read. I don’t read all the posts but I do take umbrage to those who think they are the shizbat. There are a few guys on here that deserve the respect W.E. demands. And while he’s no CNCITINFO, he’s no Bob, Jimmy or Joe_D either and from your posts DS10, neither are you – but I haven’t seen you get as ignorant about it as W.E.. I used to defend him like you do. I’m done.

Whoever you are, when I log off, you cease to exist.
Yours truly,
H.R.H Emperor Iggy of the Internet, forever to be known as the InterEmperor.

by IggleGreen on Jul 2, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't demand anything.

Like me, don’t like me, hate me, disrespect me.. I personally don’t care.

And I’ve said about 3x on here now.. I know I’m no Jimmy, Bob, Jason or D-jackfan10, but what I write is readable and evokes thought and conversation which is all I aim for.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 3, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't need to be defended.

But he doesn’t need to be followed around being attacked. That’s complete trolling, and we don’t need that shit here. For the record, I’ve never claimed to be as good as JimmyK, JasonB, or Bob_Q. I don’t think anyone else here is. Combining both football knowledge and writing skill is a difficult task, and I don’t think we have a single contributor here (outside of possibly d-jackfan) who is at the level of those other guys. If you expect professional writing, go to a professional site. But don’t crowd up these boards with your petty personal beef with one person.

And btw, did you just include Joe_D with Jimmy and Bob? Joe_D is a good writer, but how can you attack W_E for being a bad writer and being arrogant when he’s no worse than Joe in either aspect?

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by DeSean10 on Jul 3, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly,

I think d-jackfan10 is a great writer on here, while I may not agree with everything he writes he (1) makes it time consuming (sometimes to much so) (2) does a great analysis (3) Makes me think and (4) Will talk about it and have a good conversation about it..

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 3, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well there is the problem right there, Jr. You are comparing yourself to Jimmy, Bob and the others and your are not close to any of them in the quality of your posts.

I clearly stated that no I’m not as good as they are, they’re looking to do this for a living. I’m not..

You should show some humility and respect for these people and shut up and listen every once in a while.

Umm I’d say the vast majority of the people on here like when I come to talk football because between the jokingly insults and the cursing I tend to have a very good point, whether they agree with it or not..

If I want to listen to someone uninformed opinions about the Eagles from someone who is more mouth than knowledge, and have them pick fights when someone doesn’t agree with them, I’ll go to my local bar and sit down next to the first drunk I can find.

I’m actually pretty informed on football and the Eagles, I can see you don’t read a lot of what I write.

Hence the comparison with JIBTA. You have gone from being a nice respectful kid two years ago to a big mouth that is full of himself and too busy talking to listen

While I’m not the definition of respectful I do show respect, while I do pick fight 90% of the time it’s to defend somebody on here, giving a troll their tolls or I follow it up with an apology for the way I acted.. Please go back and look.

And the gay man comment wasn’t a stab at gays, it was more of a stab at your goal of attacking me on every single post in here. I have no issues with gay, sure I did at one point but hey people change.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 2, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Note to self: IggleGreen is a bitch who is very judgmental and rude.

Iggle, how the hell are you going to criticize someone’s writing skills when you post the shit you do? You’re in no position to provide criticism.

And second, what is wrong with this? This isn’t the New York Times, we can write whatever we feel like. This is the ‘FANpost section’. This is a place where fans are free to write about their favorite teams. This is a place for opinions. At it’s best we arrive to our opinions through analysis and objectivity. Nobody here claims to be like JasonB or JimmyK, Wild_Eagle never intimated that at all so please try not to pull random stuff out of your magic internet argument hat and stick to what has actually been said. Thanks in advance.


I read this awesome set of rules over at SacTown royalty:

You want to call someone out or insult someone? Take it to another site. Disagree with someone’s opinion all the live-long day, but don’t insult the individual. I used to umpire, and I used to tell the players that they could say that I made a horsesh*t call, but they better not say that I was horsesh*t. Same thing applies here. In other words, it is OK hate the play, but don’t hate the player. This includes attacks on nameless or faceless individuals. Leave the “in spite of what others would tell you” bull-plop at the door, as it is a flame war just waiting to happen. If you have a point to make, make it, but do so without discrediting others. Let the conversation take its natural course. This does not mean that you cannot respond directly to a thread post. To be clear, you may disagree with someone, vehemently so if you are impassioned. But leave the personal rancor out of it. You are disagreeing with the viewpoint, not the individual.

You should really make an attempt to abide by this rule. You came in here guns blazing attacking Wild_Eagle for not being professional enough for your taste, you certainly implied that Wild_Eagle wasn’t intelligence, called him JIBTA 2.0, called him ignorant, big mouthed and said he has become disjoined from the community here at BGN because of it.

And for someone who lives a ‘big boy’ (condescending much?) life you sure are immature, why are you attacking someone on the internet? What’s the matter, your wife won’t put out and now you’re going to go huff and puff on the internet? Don’t be a dick, it won’t get you anywhere.

With all the extra time in your ‘big boy’ life why don’t you actually be a constructive presence here at BGN and write something ‘professional’ enough to meet the standards you have set in this thread.

by d-jackfan10 on Jul 3, 2011 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Thank's bud.

And I would never live through those rules..

I sometimes start shit with hey dumbass etc (90% of the time I am joking to be honest) but it’d cause issues lol.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 3, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

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