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Pulse of Eagles Nation: Albert an Eagle?

Alright, let's really address this whole situation with Albert Haynesworth. Really look at it from both sides, because there are two sides to this story. Hate him or respect him, we all know he can be both a cancer and a dominating defense by himself. The question is do we as fans really want him or does this have disaster written all over it? Poll and points after the jump.


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First the positives of signing Albert Haynesworth. Alberto's last two season in Tennessee he had 14.5 sacks and 91 total tackles. Those are pretty impressive stats for a defensive tackle, a position where stats rarely tell the whole story. Haynesworth actually stuffs the run a lot more than he gets after the quarterback which is saying a lot in Washburn's scheme. Our run defense has always been our achilles heel, sooner or later it bites us. Haynesworth would address that, even in a pass rush happy scheme.

For those worried about Albert's age, he actually is only 29 years old. He could easily give us three or four All-Pro type seasons. His contract won't be as bloated if we sign him for two reasons. One, our owner is not Dan Synder. Two, Albert has had two disapointing seasons and his on-field performance of "The Worm" on MNF will alone scare any team of giving him a fat contract. There are plenty of reports that Albert would love to play for coach Wash again and would take less money to do it. He would probably play for satan before he would play for Shannahan again. A motivated Albert Haynesworth and Jim Washburn just go hand in hand. Add that with a very reasonable contract, at least for our side, and this move just makes sense. Mike Patterson would probably be moved to clear some space and we are still very much in play for Nnamdi Asomugha and possibly even Plaxico Burress.

Now the easy part, the negatvies. In two seasons for the Lolskinz, Al has somehow mustered up a total of 6.5 sacks and 53 total tackles. 2010 was a nightmare, Haynesworth had just 16 total tackles and 2.5 sacks. Not exactly the type of numbers that gets fans excited about a player. Especially a player who has been a major headache for the past two seasons.

Haynesworth can't seem to stay out of trouble. Whether he is groping waitresses or racking up DUI's, Haynesworth is a major character concern. We passed on a play with huge potential in Jimmy Smith because he got caught smoking dope. I'm sure there is a lot more to that, but it raises a big question. Will Andy Reid really take on a player with that much baggage and attitdue problems? The answer has been no since Terrell Owens.

Haynesworth is entering his 30's as of this Friday. He has one final big contract left in him and he will certainly want to pursue that. He's gotta feed his family. Judging by what Albert looks like, that's probably a pretty big family. Nothing in his personality would make me think he is going to take a incentive based contract or jus less money in general and be a model citizen at the same time. He hasn't been motivated since 2008, which means he is really out of shape. Will he actually be in prime shape by the start of the season, which is guaranteed to start on time now according to Mike Freeman of cbssports.com.(twitter is realfreemancbs, no e-mail provided)

Poll
Do you want the Eagles to sign/trade for Albert Haynesworth this off-season?
Yes
101 votes
No
35 votes

136 votes | Poll has closed

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I voted for NO, because he is a locker room cancer. I trust our front office to do the right thing and would back their decision.

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by MidwesternEaglesfan on Jun 15, 2011 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

i almost voted NO then i came 2 my senses.....

ok i know the guy isnt the model citizen, but lets remember this whole thing in Washington started because of him not wanting to play NT, factor that in with Shanahan’s huge ego and need to shit on his own players publicly. It really is all about the situation, i think if Haynesworth did in fact wind up here he’d be on his best behavior, you gotta admit when this guy is focused and determined he is one of if not the most dominating defensive lineman in the NFL, i know i know..thats a big WHEN. I think this could work wonders for our defense which is going to have to get Cole sum help up front, imagine wat Cole’s numbers might look like if Albert were here.

by goldenbird09 on Jun 16, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

With the following provisions:
Not in a trade with the Redskins.
New contract that is incentive based.
Cut him off like a dead finger if things start going south.

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by no1pipelayer on Jun 15, 2011 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Here’s my thinking: Andy Reid and the FO are sticklers for locker room chemistry. Whatever deal Haynesworth would get to play here, it would likely be very cheap, or at least cheap for a player of his caliber. Hopefully, the presence of Washburn will be enough to keep him in line (or at least more in line than in DC).

Frankly, investing in Haynesworth at this time sounds like a medium-risk high-reward deal to me. If he behaves and pans out, the Eagles get an elite DT in his ideal scheme for pennies on the dollar. If he doesn’t play as expected, he probably wouldn’t really hurt the team financially. If he misbehaves or causes trouble, we’d cut him and still not suffer financially.

But Reid won’t let himself get burned after the TO debacle. We’ll see if he’s interested.

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by alcatraz0109 on Jun 15, 2011 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Andy Reid and the FO are sticklers for locker room chemistry. Whatever deal Haynesworth would get to play here, it would likely be very cheap, or at least cheap for a player of his caliber. Hopefully, the presence of Washburn will be enough to keep him in line (or at least more in line than in DC).

Yeah because guys like Terrell Owens, Michael Vick, DeSean Jackson and Freddie Mitchell were obviously known for their locker room decorum when the Eagles brought them in…. The Eagles don’t care, they’re willing to bring in character risks if they think it can help them win games and they’ve proven that time and time again. The Eagles are sticklers for values and getting Haynesworth cheap is a HUGE value because Haynesworth was the most dominant defensive player in the league under Washburn.

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by d-jackfan10 on Jun 15, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said it would preclude them from getting him. They’re not averse to taking on players with behavior issues.

I only said that if he became a problem the Eagles would be quick to take action, and are probably quicker and better at dealing with these behavior issues than many other teams, or at least Washington.

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by alcatraz0109 on Jun 16, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I CAN SPOT A "CANCER" A MILE AWAY

Fat Albert is a Cancer period.
look at the game against the eagles (The Ass-Whooping) he clearly gave up
on the Avant touchdown. You tell me is he worth it?

by wagone on Jun 16, 2011 1:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Not sure

you have enough info to make this judgement.

Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.

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by MightyJoeBanner on Jun 16, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn't a cancer until they changed the scheme and Shanny got on his ass...

if he came to Philly he’d be in the Defensive scheme he had his most success in, he’s be reunited with Washburn and he would most likely be kept in check by our strong locker room.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

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by wild_eagle on Jun 16, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry but how is the best 4-3 DT in the game worthless?

He got pissed that they switched schemes then didn’t show up to OTA’s and got punished.. Yippy.

Haynesworth is a beast, if we can control him we’d go from one of the best DL’s in football to THE best defensive line in football.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 16, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 16, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we dont get him ill be pissed

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by phillyeaglesfan on Jun 16, 2011 3:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I look at it this way: with the right contract structure we could make it so that if he becomes an issue, we can cut him at very little relative cost.

What it comes down to is whether Big Al wants to show the rest of the NFL that Shanny was the problem in WASH and not him. If he does, and I think he does, then Big Al needs to find the team and defensive strategy that will be the most conducive to helping him achieve that. In Philly, he would be rejoining the DL coach that he was the best DT in the game under and joining a DL that has another above average member on it in Cole. That sounds like a pretty good situation to be in.

by The Reddgie on Jun 16, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

MWEF...you gotta change this poll...

You need to separate the TRADE and SIGN options…

TRADE = hell no…contract, actually giving the skins something for him….
SIGN = faster than AR can eat a cheesesteak…to an incentive contract w/ marks he has to hit, reunite him w/ Wash..

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by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 16, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

im desperate for a superbowl and im willing to take chances. i think washburn would keep him in line and he would be a beast

by eaglesinmd on Jun 16, 2011 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Despite the risk, this moves makes too much sense

With Wash on board, this reunion looks to be a match made in heaven. He’ll fit our scheme perfectly and we’ll finally have that monster in the middle we haven’t had since Jerome Brown. As for the chance to play the Redskins twice, Big Al would probably play those two for free.

by captainmike011 on Jun 17, 2011 12:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Redskins games

He would dominate those games just to stick it to coach Shanny. I am doing a 180 on Haynesworth. Happy 30th Big Al!

"The positions I played, every play, I was making contact, not like that … Deion Sanders. He couldn’t tackle my wife. He’s back there dancing out there instead of hitting." -Chuck Bednarik

by MidwesternEaglesfan on Jun 17, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

His contract needs to be incentive based

His is like a child who needs constant motivation. When he is having an off night (you remember his beached whale routine last year as Vick was having a picnic behind the LOS)

by Sikahema on Jun 17, 2011 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Sign on the cheap, yes.
Trade for, no?

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Jun 19, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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