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Terrelle Pryor in the NFC East?

It's been over a week now that news of Terrelle Pryor's and fellow buckeye players received improper benefits, costing Ohio State, teammates, Jim Tressel, and himself. He's a young, physical, exciting player with his arms and feet. But his mouth and ego can't be run over like opposing defenders. His lack of maturity and selfish nature might have cost him a shot at a NFL career with the combination of his ability to play quarterback at the next level. 

He is taking steps towards saving his career at least. Hiring Drew Rosenhaus was a necessary move, Pryor is coming out of a bad situation at Ohio State and while I am not a fan of Rosehaus, he is extremely good at his job, he has helped athletes out of questionable situations in the past. By teaming up with Rosenhaus, Pryor's NFL chances has improved. His best shot is the NFL supplemental draft, which can only occur until after the lockout. But at least he has committed to going through the supplemental draft. His gifted ability is intriguing, however very few will take a flyer on him due to mechanics, reading the field, leadership, and now this. However, one team that can be a perfect fit for both parties is in our division....

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The Washington Redskins and Terrelle Pryor are perfect fits for each other, I'll start with Pryor.

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First off, Pryor will be able to work with a Mike Shanahan, a quarterback coach that will be to coach him up. While Shanahan hasn't been that legend we saw in 1998, he has groomed quarterbacks pretty successfully. Second he'll have a basis of a running game. Ryan Torain may not be a superstar, but is a solid work horse. For only starting 8 games, he racked up 742 yards and 4.5 yards per carry, a solid number. A running game is a rookie's best friend and while we can all agree the Redskins don't have much, they do have a basis for a running game. Third, he does have weapons to throw to, the biggest one to highlight is two tight-ends, which are key for any rookie.  Chris Cooley is a top 15 TE, arguably top 10. Fred Davis stepped up big time when Cooley went down in 2009, racking up +500 and 6 TD'S, he was a real spark for their offense in 09. In 2010, his role was reduced with Cooley healthy, but did well with limited time with 21 grabs, 316 yards, and 3 TD's. I'd make a lot of sense if the Redskins run a lot of double tight-end sets next year, offering a saftey blanket for Pryor, who also relied on his tight end Jake Stoneburner often, Stoneburner having a career year this year.

Why it makes sense for the Washington Redskins

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First off, their offense needs to turn around. As much of a McNabb fan I am, I will attest he is no longer a viable option as a starting quarterback. Teams are probably better off using him as only a stop gap. With McNabb under center most of the season the Redskins were abysmal. They ranked 18th in the league in terms of total yards per game (335.9), 20th in 1st downs per game (18.4), 31st in 3rd downs made (61) out of 208 attempts making a percentage of 29%, 24th in ToP per game with 28:50, and 20th in turnovers with -4. They need an identity and a leader on offense.

Which brings me to point two, John Beck and Rex Grossman are not the answers. They are not faces of the franchise, they are not field generals, they are decent backup options (I'm being nice). There is no future for this team and good coaches and franchises have those. Mike and Kyle needs to find one and one is available. They like to have a strong arm quarterback that throws the ball down the field and outside the hashes. they like to have an mobile quarterback that can they can roll out to make big plays and that can make a play on their own. John Elway and Jay Cutler are prime examples. Pryor fits their mold like oreos and milk, Pryor has racked up 2,164 yards and 17 touchdowns in 3 years as well as a 4.33 40 yard dash at Ohio State's Spring Training. As a runner he is quicker and more elusive than Cam Newton while being just as powerful. He is up there with those athletic quarterbacks like Cam Newton, Tim Tebow, Jake Locker and Colin Kaepernick. Throwing the ball he has over 6,000 yards in the past three years with a 57:26 INT ratio. He’s had over 60% completion and double digit TD’s.

Finally, he puts less pressure on the offensive line. The Redskins offensive line is near embarrassing and well as inexperienced. Wait what? Yeah that surprised me too. The Redskins offensive line has gotten considerably younger, younger in fact than our very own Eagles according to JimmyK and his Blogging the Beast. But the fact that they allowed 49 sacks last year in unacceptable. Pryor's athletic ability takes pressure off the offensive line and allows more plays to occur like a Big Ben or Mike Vick.

In summary, it's like hooking up two of your friends that you know will be great together. Pryor will get an opportunty to start with them and develop his game with the Shanahan's. There will probably be some growing pains and might end up as a development year for them with Pryor, but it befits Pryor with starting experience and they aren't kidding anyone with competing in the NFC East with Beck or Grossman. In reality there is either developing the future with Pryor, which will pay dividends later or signing a free agent vet like Orton or Alex Smith. If they decide to do neither of these options then truly they will be better off losing a season in a lockout. 

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Which makes the most sense for the Washington Redskins?
Grab Pryor
25 votes
Sign a vet like Orton or (list below)
43 votes
Stick with Beck/Grossman at take their bumbs
24 votes

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Pryor is not a QB

He doesn’t have what it takes to be a winning QB at the NFL level. No accuracy whatsoever. He could be a dynamic wide receiver some day. Miami could be in play for their wildcat formation but that is probably just mindless speculation because of what they did with Pat White.

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by MidwesternEaglesfan on Jun 15, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

this.
a team with an established QB and depth at the position could attempt to develop him. it will take 4-5 years. but at that time the teams QB will be leaving the league or retired. and if it works out, you have a guy who you spent what the league min. on ready to lead you're team. and it could always not work out and you dont lose much. the reason i woldnt want the guy on my team is because he's a selfish peice of shit and i wouldnt want him as my QB, WR, TE, or waterboy

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 15, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a Michigan fan, I can’t wait to see him fail. But as a football fan, I can’t wait to see him fail.

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by MidwesternEaglesfan on Jun 15, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

As an Ohio State fan, I can’t wait to see him fail

by IwearNumber20 on Jun 16, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

As an Ohio State fan, I agree

by Manoovi on Jun 16, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Washington would be one of the worst places Pryor could go if he is trying to be a QB

by BreckBirds20 on Jun 15, 2011 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Pryor is a non-entity and a non-story.

Maybe he can play baseball or something.

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by waterfield on Jun 15, 2011 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Firstly, how many players does Drew Rosenhaus have? It seems like every other player uses him. And secondly, Pryor is never going to be successful in the NFL. I don’t think he nor Cam will be able to be successful.

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by IwantVick on Jun 15, 2011 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Pryor is a HUGE project that has HUGE upside but also has massive bust potential, he needs to go to a place where he can develop and learn in practices, be coached by great QB coaches, have a solid mentor and be shown the ropes in a locker room. You’re going to need at least 3 years before this guy is ready to go and Mike Shannahan is in no position to take on a project like this.

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by d-jackfan10 on Jun 15, 2011 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

do you really think much will be accomplished with Beck/Grossman at quarterback? This season will probably be a developmental season with them at quarterback anyways.

Why not take a shot, give the kid some experience, take some beatings and get better for the next couple years. The only other explanation, is that Shanahan is blowing the season on purpose to get Luck or Barkley

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by number5 on Jun 16, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two words: David Carr

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by DeSean10 on Jun 16, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

So?

"If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent." - #5
"Or if the rest of the defense if even decent then
our two Rookie safety’s don’t have to go all Ed Reed-Palamolu-Dawkins-super sayan badass mode to help us win." - W_E
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by number5 on Jun 16, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

You don’t just throw a rookie QB who isn’t ready into a starting role to get kicked around. Carr looked good on the Texans when he wasn’t running for his life, but he became so trigger happy and contact shy that his career was ruined. You try doing that to somebody who hasn’t put in the effort Carr has and you’ll get another Jamarcus Russell.

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by DeSean10 on Jun 16, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

except this guys best ability is him running when the pocket is breaking down. He's not a statue like Carr

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"Or if the rest of the defense if even decent then
our two Rookie safety’s don’t have to go all Ed Reed-Palamolu-Dawkins-super sayan badass mode to help us win." - W_E
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by number5 on Jun 16, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

running in the NFL is not like running in college …. Plus the fact that he has barely
developed at Ohio State is cause for concern. The throwing mechanics of Tim Tebrow don’t do any athlete justice.

by wagone on Jun 16, 2011 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carr wasn’t a statue either. He wasn’t Drew Bledsoe, he was closer to Daunte Culpepper or Roethlisberger in the mobility department.

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by DeSean10 on Jun 16, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

carr is a pretty good QB if he has a solid oline

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 16, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prior needs at least 2 years before you can even mention him in the same sentence as Beck or Grossman. He doesn’t even know how to read defenses for Christ’s sake…probably needs to learn 3, 5, & 7 step drops. Not to mention his mechanics need to be completely overhauled.

Beck and Grossman are not good; there can be no argument. But at least they have a foundation you can build on. You don’t have break down their games and start from scratch like you would with Pryor. If there’s one thing the Skins don’t need to waste it’s more draft picks.

by DLawrence55 on Jun 16, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grossman or Beck

Tank the season and hope for Luck.

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by no1pipelayer on Jun 16, 2011 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

The biggest lie ever perpetuated...

Is that Mike Shanahan is a QB coach guru. Hell, the guy is no type of coaching guru at all. His coaching “style” is to have a hall of fame ability QB and a workhorse RB that you are going to run into the ground like a 1979 ford festiva with 186,000 miles on it. I give Mike Shanahan no credit for Elway’s ability. Elway came out of Stanford as a very cerebral and mobile QB with a cannon for an arm. He was a lot like Peyton Manning was coming out of college: brilliant, and physically talented, just needed to learn a few NFL ropes. Does anyone credit Jim Mora Sr. for Peyton’s early success? Not anyone I’ve spoken to.
         Look at the Qb’s that Shanahan coached in Denver after Elway. Jake Plummer? If you read any Jake Plummer comment about Shanahan, he says something to the effect of “Shanahan would never have an answer, and always expect me to come up with it. He was obsessed with finding the ‘next John Elway’, ’cause he needed it”.
And then there’s Jay Cutler.
In short, without an uber talented QB, Mike Shanahan has done nothing. If he was able to coach to save his life, he would’ve gotten the most out of Plummer and Cutler. Washington is not the place for Pryor, because as long as Shanahan is the coach, Pryor will learn nothing about playing the QB position.

by IwearNumber20 on Jun 16, 2011 3:14 AM EDT reply actions  

John Elway was in the NFL for a very long amount of time before Shanny coached the Broncos.

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by d-jackfan10 on Jun 16, 2011 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

kind of...

he was on again/off again fro 88-94 as the qb coach/offensive asst./OC until he finally became the head coach in 1995. If anything, that just helps prove my point. The only success Shanahan had as a coach came with a QB that someone else had groomed for him. After that, he just focused on what he needed, finding the next Elway, that “I can put the team on my back and carry us to victory because I know what I’m doing” player, which he never found

by IwearNumber20 on Jun 16, 2011 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to say this but...

…doesn’t the “ideal situation” everyone seems to be describing seem to fit in going forward with the Eagles?

Someone said he’ll need 4-5 years to develop under a like-minded QB who will be facing retirement after said years (Michael Vick)….

Someone else said he needs to go to a place where he can learn, develop and learn locker room sense. You’d be putting him behind one of the better QB developers in the game in Andy Reid and into a locker room with great leadership.

That being said, I do NOT want Pryor on our team, period. But as much as I hate to admit this, he would be learning from a QB that has a similar skill set, behind a great QB developing coach and in a locker room full of guys who won’t take his B.S. Just like Plax and Haynesworth, if we can get him at a low cost w/an incentive laden contract, maybe he is worth the risk?

by Eagles02 on Jun 16, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe several people have suggested this, and d-jackfan10 wrote a fanpost about it. So yes, people definitely agree that it makes sense.

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by DeSean10 on Jun 16, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is worth it, might as well take him for a project and hopefully help him realize his potential for when Vick deteriorates in a few years, when we trade Kolb we’ll be stuck with Kafka as the only other QB.

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by Djax10 on Jun 16, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Terrelle Pryor...

…he is extremely stupid, laughably untalented and possesses the work ethic of Jamarcus Russel after 3 or 4 “purple dranks.” He is a bullshit fraud

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by EvilBanner on Jun 16, 2011 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed, EB.

There’s a reason why he didn’t declare for the 2011 draft, and is only now entering the supplemental draft after he got himself kicked out of college: because no NFL team in their right minds would have drafted him before the 6th round if he had. The fact that Rosenhaus is now pushing him as a “first-round talent” is fucking hilarious.

And am I the only person who finds it telling that despite all of his success in Ohio that every single one of his teammates hated his guts? The guy couldn’t even win the respect of a bunch of young college kids; how does anyone expect him to command an NFL huddle?

by licensetochill on Jun 16, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say Pryor to Eagles would be a good thing..

He’s likely to be a 3rd or 4th rounder, the Eagles will need a talented guy to develop behind Vick for 2-3 years.

Reid and Marty worked wonders on Vick’s mechanics in a little over a year, I have full confidence they’d be able to fix Pryors mechanics.

Also Pryor’s athletic ability is close to what McNabb was IMHO, he may be a little quicker… I think he’d be able to run our WCO where we need a mobile QB.

Also why not take a flyer on this guy? He’s been considered a potential 1st rounder for 2012, so for a 3rd or 4th why not pick him up and try to develop him?

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

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by wild_eagle on Jun 16, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Kiper or someone had him rated as the 71st best player this year if he chose to come out. I seriously doubt he would have been able to ramp it up to 1st round consideration

by DLawrence55 on Jun 16, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has the personality to fit your lockerroom

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 16, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice one..

It’s better than having a brain dead QB and a DE who doesn’t produce like a top 5 DE but is bitching that he was promised to be.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

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by wild_eagle on Jun 16, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol. touche (tho eli is one of the smartes qb's in the league)

round 2 tommorow?

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 16, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smart QBs don’t have that many turnovers

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by Clint Eastwood on Jun 16, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

50% came off recievers hands.

its not his fault that his 4th-7th options always tip the ball up in there air putting it up for grabs

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 16, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

His passes have should been more accurate that way his receivers don’t have to make difficult catches that end up being tipped ones.

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by Clint Eastwood on Jun 16, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly lol

im from north jersey all my friends are giants fans….. “elis ints were not his fault” bullshit he threw a shitty pass hence the receiver had to make a difficult catch…….

by Mike GinZ on Jun 16, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it hits the hands the reciever must catch it.

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The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 17, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

No it’s not, if it’s a good pass then it’s a must catch ball.

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by Clint Eastwood on Jun 17, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

no. if it hits the hands and you are in the NFL as a wide reciever you must catch it

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The new Prince of NY is here
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 17, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not true.. while some of the passes Eli threw were good and the WR's popped them up in the air,

a lot of them weren’t catchable balls that WR’s just did their best on.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 17, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know this.

but if the ball hits your hand you gotta catch it.
unless you’re being drilled.
otherwise dont be a wr

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The new Prince of NY is here
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 18, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Completely wrong..

but ok, you’re free to think what you like.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 18, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

its a known fact. and more than just me will tell you that if the ball hits your hand, you catch it

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 18, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it's a catchable ball and it hits you in the hands yes,

however you can’t expect a guy to barly get fingers on it and catch it.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 18, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

but that not hitting you in the hands.

there is a difference to hitting your hands and touching your fingers.
most of eli’s Tipped passes hit the recievers hands in a way that it should be caught. i can remember maybe one where it was off the finger-tips

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The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 18, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

what if it's a shitty ass pass? Do you know how hard it is to run full speed, stretch out

and have to try and pull in a wounded duck?

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 18, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i do know how hard it is.

but they are paid to do it.
if its a shitty ass pass and it doesnt hit you in the hands, then fine.
but if its a shityy ass pass and still hits you in the hands then you catch it.
its what tehy are paid to do.

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Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 18, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree..

So many factors… to many to list.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 18, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know what you're saying.

but its their job. unless they are about to be drilled. or hit the gound hard. if it hits the hands you catch it.
other-wise find a new job

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 18, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Completely wrong but ok...

You play DE right? Get to the QB otherwise find a new job.

You play QB? Deliver a catchable ball each time, otherwise find a new job.

You play OL? Execute the perfect block and never get beat, otherwise find a new job.

You play DB? Don’t allow any catches otherwise find a new job.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 18, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is differen tho.

different logic in what you said.
I play on the dline, and if i have the qb within my grasbs, i get him or i hould find a new job.
if you play QB, and you have a wide open WR, and your not under immense presure, you deliver the ball to him or find a new job.
You pay oline, so you block the guy in front of you when the play goes you’re way. do what your told you may get beat. but do what you are told or find a new job.
You play DB, when the ball comes your way, you go for it, you try to pic it off/bat it down, but if the guy catches it then you hit him, hit hm hard, or find a new job.

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 18, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umm, sorry but you're not stating any criteria for the WR's.

DL, your sole job is to contain and sack the QB, if you don’t do that you fail.

QB, you’re wrong, if he doesn’t throw a catchable ball then he should be out.

OL, you block the guy or you get a new job… If “do what you’re told” were a good enough excuse for the OL then it’s good enough for WR’s they’re told to catch the ball.

DB, same concept, if you’re covering a guy and he makes a catch then find a new job..

Point being you’re finding excuses for every position but WR… Just stop. WR’s drop catchable balls, they all do, is TO a shitty WR because he pretty much leads the league in drops each season?

Also just to drive my point home.. you’re telling guys like Steve Smith (NYG), Santonio Holmes, Micheal Crabtree, Wes Welker, Brandon Marshall, Mike Williams (TB), Steve Smith (Car), and Desean Jackson to go find different jobs…

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

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by wild_eagle on Jun 18, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Point being you’re finding excuses for every position but WR

i already provided that. i dont se how i needed to repeat myself

WR’s drop catchable balls

sure they do. yea, it happens a lot.
but they are paid to catch it when it hits the hands. so its their fault if they drop the ball. not the QB’s, which was the whole argument

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 19, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

And you're still being stupid..
Also just to drive my point home.. you’re telling guys like Steve Smith (NYG), Santonio Holmes, Micheal Crabtree, Wes Welker, Brandon Marshall, Mike Williams (TB), Steve Smith (Car), and Desean Jackson to go find different jobs…

All of them were in the bad part of drop percentage which is based off catchable targets… you’re theory is stupid.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 19, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

wtf are you talking about. your just being an idiot now.

the argument was about wether or not it was eli’s fault for those picks.
sure players drop balls, dont be a fucking moron.
but its their fault if they drop the balls that hit their hands. not the QB’s. which in that case, i am again right.
learn what you are arguing before you speak

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 19, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh huh.. you're saying WR's that drop balls

need to find a new job…

I provided a list of WR’s with the highest drop percentage and then you get all bitchy and act like a dumb little bitch.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 19, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

no. i not saying that.

read what i said instead of making it into something its not.
i said they get paid o catch it, so its their faults that its picked not eli’s.
i love however the dumbass fight you’re trying to put up now that you know you’ve lost.
this is my point, no intelligent conversations can be had here hen you wont accept you are wrong

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 19, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, it's Eli's fault.

If he get credit for the TD passes he gets credit for the INT’s.

As the QB you accept the responsibilty for the bad, and by doing so you get the responsibility for the good..

I’m not wrong, I saw a lot of the passes, they were ducks for over the WR’s head to a point they had to jump and stretch, a lot of the balls would’ve been picks anyway due to the position of the CB behind them..

Yippy, got any arguments you can gladly present them to your wall because it’ll care more than I do.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 19, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wont argue now, because i know that eli is better for us than vick would be.

but watch this year, and you’ll see what happens when his recievers dont drop the ball

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 17, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

50%?

What bullshit is that? I’ve seen all of Mannings 25 INT’s and only 8 were tipped(32%). He’d still have 17 INT’s by himself which isn’t good at all.

Rivals beware

by starship 007 on Jun 17, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

then you havent seen all of them.

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 17, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank god ur gone

this is the same retarded arguement u keep using and we keep saying is stupid

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by Mr.electric10 on Jun 20, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL smart QB's aren't in the top of the League for INT's..

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jun 17, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

or 2nd in TD's at the top in yards?

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jun 17, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Negated almost entirely by the fact that he gives the other team the ball more than his punter.

Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"

by Ed Van Chimp on Jun 20, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i will

be laughing in everyone who hated on Pryor and cam when they become the next Brady and manning or some other great QB to be in the NFL They are the next breed of NFL QB’s, and i think Pryor would be a great addition and back up to Vick.

by Alex Klinger on Jun 16, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

The next breed of QB?

That line has been used over and over for a couple decades now. It’s kind of crap. Athletic QB’s are great, but if they can’t learn pocket presence, quick release and how to use their legs to aid the pass instead of just running, they don’t go anywhere. Vick was hugely overrated in Atlanta and it wasn’t until a couple years of working with Reid and McNabb that Vick harnessed his potential in an effective way at the QB position. Sure he was fast and hard to catch when he was in Atlanta, but he was very predictable and teams with good defenses figured him out pretty quickly. McNabb’s best years happened once he used his athleticism as a way to extend plays and give his receivers time. He didn’t just take off running whenever pressure came. The next breed doesn’t mean a thing if they don’t take the time to learn some of what it means to be a QB in the NFL.

For what it’s worth I do think the Eagles would be a good place for Pryor. Whether or not Pryor is worth the trouble is a different story.

by NOLACuse on Jun 16, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Washington would be a terrible place for Pryor.

Their QB situation being murky is exactly what Pryor doesn’t need. He needs to fill in as the third QB behind an established starter and learn. He will need 3 or 4 years of grooming and practice before he really is ready. In Washington he would get thrown in far too quickly, probably in his first year. Washington will go with Beck for now I suspect, but what that team needs is a) a young NFL-ready QB to start or b) a serviceable veteran to back up Beck (and probably take over when Beck fails). Pryor would fit better in Philly than anywhere (as far as the NFC East goes) I think. He could sit back and learn from Reid and Vick how to properly harness his talents. I don’t think highly of him so I would be upset to see us spend anything higher than a 4th on him in the supplemental draft, but I would be fine with a 4th or lower just to see if he can become something worthwhile.

by NOLACuse on Jun 16, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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