Could Curtis Marsh be the 2011 KR?
by Brawnybalboa on May 9, 2011 9:49 PM EDT
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PrintOver the past few seasons KR has not particularly been a position of strength for the Eagles. In 2007 we had Correll Buckhalter on surgically repaired knees, 2008 & 2009 we had Quentin Demps and last year we had Ellis Hobbs, Jorrick Calvin & Gerard Lawson. With Buckhalter & Demps long gone, Hobbs potentially retired, and Calvin & Lawson likely to lose out in pre-season roster cuts, the Eagles have a need for a KR.
To me Curtis Marsh is possibly the answer. Although he doesn't possess much returning experience from college he has the tools to become a good Kick Returner.
40 Yard Dash: 4.42
Height: 6'1
Weight: 197 lbs
We know he will have the toughness to take big hits being a former running back, and due to this time previous experience should also have good open field vision on returns.
He compares favourably to Joshua Cribbs, the All-Pro Returner for the Cleveland Browns, who like Marsh had very little return experience prior to the NFL. In comparison to the stats above:
40 Yard Dash: 4.45
Height: 6'1
Weight: 215 lbs
As his playing time will be limited by the starting CB slots being occupied by Asante Samuel, and potentially by Nnamdi Asomugha or another FA, there is not reason why Curtis Marsh shouldn't be given the chance to KR in 2011.
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He has the tools, but...
A lot of being a good KR is seeing seams, (which he may or may not be able to do,) and holding onto the ball through the biggest hits in football, (which he may or may not be able to do.)
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him getting a look at KR in camp, but KR is as much about instincts as measurables.
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Well he was a running back in college for two years, so I imagine he understands ball security.
That said, I’m not sure it matters much this year with the new kickoff rules.
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As JasonB reiterated from my post, Curtis Marsh was a running back for most of his career (a late CB convert), so ball security issues, and recognising seams should be pretty natural for him.
I can’t see anyone else from the roster challenging for the KR job, except maybe Jerome Harrison if he stays, or this new boy Dion Lewis.
by Brawnybalboa on May 9, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
not so sure
what was the reason that he converted to a DB? If he is fast, can hit , but has problems with ball security, then maybe he was moved for a reason.
He should be given a shot at this, and lets hope whoever is going to be returning kicks actually gets some practice at the position before week 2.
If I remember rightly he volunteered to convert to CB
I read ansomewhere on draft day that he had made about the switch. According to him all the starting CB’s were leaving and the position was effectively vacant, and it was literally as simple as asking the coach to give him a go!
Here is the article: http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Utah-States-Curtis-Marsh-drafted-in-3rd-round/JGxc7Ig2aEOfqLzXSRyulg.cspx
So his change was nothing to do with ball security issues
by Brawnybalboa on May 11, 2011 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Some rules I could understand, for example the fair catch rule as it did directly improve player safety.
Some rules are a little odd, for example preventing contact with LS’s during punts/kicks (C’s do the same job without protection).
Some rules downright suck, like these kick-off ones.
Yeah, the new kick-off rules suck. Along with removing wedges last off-season to the change of starting position it has removed a lot of the excitement of kick-offs. What are the NFL going to do next? Remove Kickoff returns all together and have teams start automatically on there 20 yard line? They preach that this is all for player safety, but you cannot make kick-off returns completely safe without removing them.
I did have to repeat that the new kick-off rules suck
Purely because I usually delve deeper into my vocabulary to express my disgust. Although I was so disgusted that it wasn’t worth wasting time using another word!
by Brawnybalboa on May 9, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Preventing contact with the LS
is a rule because for the most part their head is down, looking through their legs before/during the snap. If they get hit in the back of their neck, which would be exposed it could really do some damage. That is a rule that should be in place! That is all about player safety. A center has his head up, looking forward so he can see what’s coming and it’s not at such a bad angle if/when he is hit.
yes
centers don’t snap it nearly as far back as long snappers do that rule makes perfect sense
and as far as kickoff while it is a sorta stupid rule it was actually the old rule that they had changed to make fewer touchbacks and either way we don’t have a good KR so it helps us to have everyone have touchbacks
I'll return kicks.
I can catch the ball and go down on one knee.
3yr. 1mil?
Done and done.
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Why not?
Like Honestly….Can he do any worse than whats been on the field the past 3 years?
Give him a shot. Athtletic guys, raw or not, are perfect for this type of job…
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Can he do any worse than whats been on the field the past 3 years?
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by alcatraz0109 on May 12, 2011 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions
The new kickoff rules
don’t eliminate kick returns. Weren’t there kick returners 15-20 years ago? It will just reduce them.
Didn't they?
Sign Sinorcine?? (spelling) Moss for kick returns? They can’t of signed him to play WR.
I'm in here trying to get a mother effin scholarship!!
No.
KRing is going to be shit.. They moved Kickoffs up to the 35.. I’ll be surprised if we get 5-6 chances to run a kickoff this entire season.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
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Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Good point
The draft showed us how much the front office thinks a kickreturner’s impact will be in 2011. I have no idea who will be our KR, I think Lawson and Calvin will be gone before we get to our final preseason game. I don’t think they use Curtis Marsh as a KR unless he shows he can be really special as a return man. It probably goes down to Dion Lewis or Chad Hall. Hall has more experience than Lewis as a return man but Lewis can make people miss and probably has more ball security. I think the thing about kickoffs will change as the season goes on is we will higher kickoffs being fielded at the 5 instead of just booting it out of the endzone.
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by MidwesternEaglesfan on May 10, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
Hall was a RB in college a lot of the time, and he certainly wasn’t known for having fumbling problems.
My worry on Chad is his speed, not his instincts or ball security.
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I would not have Chad Hall as a KR
Usually KR’s are one of the fastest players on the team. For example Demps ran a 4.39 at the combine, Hobbs a 4.33-4.5 (depending on source), Devin Hester 4.25, Fabian Washington 4.25 & Jacoby Ford 4.26.
Compared to these speed-stars Chad Hall’s 4.56 is slow beyond belief. His ‘speed’ is in fact short area quickness, his low centre of gravity giving him good agility.
by Brawnybalboa on May 11, 2011 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly It'll probably be a RB kick returning...
That or we’ll throw somebody back there like we always do.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Yes because he's not going to that shit...
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Good post, however, i disagree in one aspect
I think that Calvin will be back so we have a second guy to throw back there with Marsh. And i like the size comparison with the second or third best returner in the league. He must have atleast average field vision because he was a running back so he may be able to hit a hole if one opens up. I’d like to see how he does in training camp if they decide to throw him in there. Although, many guys are being drafted out of college as purely kick returners so if he wasnt drafted for that, the Eagles may not be willing to risk a top rated corner (according to a few sources) in the return game.
Why would you want Marsh as a returner when we could always bring back Reno Mahe?
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by phillyeaglesfan4life on May 11, 2011 2:32 PM EDT reply actions
We should sign a pro for kneel down duty.
Take your pick.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
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