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Which Players From IR Can The Eagles Expect to Contribute in 2011?

By the time the play-offs finally rolled around, the Eagles had no less than 11 Players on IR, including 4 rookies selected in the 2010 Draft, and 4 starters. Last season we all eagerly awaited the return of Stewart Bradley to solidify the Linebacking Corps, and marvelled at Jamaal Jackson's quick recovery from his ACL tear, both of whom of course made the first day roster as starters. Who can we expect to recover and make the roster for the September 11th showdown with the Rams?

Player Analysis After the Jump

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DE: Victor Abiamiri

It is forgotten that he was the 2009 opening day starter and only gave way to Juqua Parker due to injury. He was recovering from Microfracture surgery last season off-season, but spent the whole season on PUP & IR. The DE position is crowded with Cole, Tapp, Sapp, Graham, Parker, Hunt & Teo Neshiem plus himself and a possible FA. With Jim Washburn at the helm tutoring a healthy Abiamiri, he could be a Wildcard to start opposite Cole in week 1.

FS: Nate Allen

Definitely the Eagles Rookie of the Year last season. Was playing well until rupturing his patellar tendon against the Giants. Patellar Tendon tears are less serious than ACL tears so we can expect to see Allen in the starting line up for week 1. However as with all late season knee injuries he may not return to form until Mid-Season.

CB: Jorrick Calvin

Apart from his hilarious end zone stroll against the Cowboys can we remember anything from his time as a KR? I surely can't! Even coming back from injury he will face stiff competition at KR and may end up the odd person out at CB (stuck behind Samuel, FA, Lindley, Marsh & Hanson). Regardless of recovery, prospects for making the roster are very low.

DE: Brandon Graham

We can't wait to see Brandom Graham being coached by Jim Washburn, who in turn rated him as the top DE in last years draft. However he is recovering from a Torn ACL suffered in Week 14. As the injury was so late in the season the likelihood of him being opening day starter is low. But by mid-season should be pushing for the starting role again.

S: Antoine Harris

A roster casualty of his own injury. Signed a 1 year contract last off-season, and hit IR before ever playing a down. Unless Allen, Jackson never leave IR and Coleman, Jarrett, Adams & Anderson all perform poorly, Harris will not be near the opening day roster.

CB: Ellis Hobbs

After tossing up possible retirement following 2 season ending head injuries in 2 seasons, it is unlikely that Hobbs does return. However if he does return he is a FA. I cannot see the Eagles resigning him as he will go to a team with dire need for a starter at CB. The likelihood of him returning to the opening day line-up is pretty much zero.

C: Jamaal Jackson

After a miraculous recovery to make the opening game last season, he was hit by the injury bug again after less than 2 quarters. After a full 18 months of recovery for his torn ACL, and a full year for his torn biceps, Jackson can be expected to fight McGlynn for his starting role once more. The likelihood of his displacing McGlynn for the spot as opening day starter is 50/50

FS: Marlin Jackson

Was meant to fight it out to play as opening day FS with Nate Allen. Unfortunately he picked up a torn achilles tendon to go with his 2 previous ACL tears leading to another visit to IR. If he can finally stay healthy, he could push Nate Allen for the starting role at FS, or even for time at CB, his previous position. Will probably be a reserve safety on opening day if he stays healthy.

DT: Jeff Owens

In a cruel twist of fate, having forced his way into the roster following being drafted in the 7th round of the 2010 draft, and spending all season on the practise squad he finally got his first NFL appearance against the Vikings in week 16. Before the game was up he had a torn ACL. Although most of the season the Eagles only dressed 3 DT's (even 2 when Bunkley injured his elbow) it is likely that Jim Washburn will not limit DT snaps by placing DE's inside on passing downs. Due to sustaining the injury so late in the year, it is likely he will not make the opening day roster and may remain on PUP until mid-season.

DE: Ricky Sapp

A 5th round selection last season who hit IR before playing a single pre-season snap due to a knee injury. Expect Sapp to compete for a roster spot for the opening day. He is a fast edge rusher who appears to fit washburns scheme well.

FB: Leonard Weaver

A hugely disappointing story for him last off-season. Going from an All-Pro Fullback signing the richest FB contract in history, to suffering one of the worst ACL tears in NFL history which included nerve damage. Even if Weaver makes a full recovery (not likely) he has to beat out Owen Schmitt, who performed well in the passing game last year, or newly drafted Stanley Havili to the FB spot. Opening day prospects are minimal, most likely he will retire or might sit on PUP for a season if the Eagles really want him.

 

TE:Cornelius Ingram

Ok he wasn't on IR last season, but I do expect him to really push for a roster spot. He was on IR in 2009 and picked up an injury just prior to the pre-season games in 2010 and was cut. He spent this season on & off the practise squad near the seasons end. With a full year removed from any injuries we could finally see how he performs. In the 2009 Draft he fell to the 4th round due to injury concerns (although had 1st round talent) and tore his ACL again. There is no reason why he cannot finally reach his potential this season. Opening day prospects is that he could displace Clay Harbor as Celeks back-up.

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Totally agree on Ingram

I think he can take the 3rd TE spot this year. What a boost in the red zone it would be to have another receiving threat from the TE position. Garrett Mills is a better blocker, but we’d be dynamic at TE if Ingram can get back to where he was at.

by Mc5 on May 9, 2011 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

IF

they keep 3 TE. With the amount of RB and FB on the team, I wouldnt be surprised if they kept an extra back and only 2 TEs

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by BWestFactor on May 9, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so.

I think Buckley gets cut this year. He’s a good special teamer but the drafting of Lewis tells us that they aren’t happy with his production at RB. And there is no way they keep two fullbacks so either Schmitt (likely) or Havili is gone.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 9, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

as good as buckley is on special teams he will be replaced by younger talent from this draft who still have the possibility of starting sometime

by CSJones on May 9, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve given up on Ingram now. I’ve seen NOTHING at the NFL level.

by AZ Eagle on May 9, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree on Ingram

I had the honor of meeting him and the guy is amazing (no homo). I am not a small guy and I work out and all that good stuff and this guy makes me look like a third grader. It is no secret that I really like CI and I am really pulling for him to stay healthy and make a huge impact on the team this year.

by Two Nickels on May 10, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Opening day prospects is that he could displace Clay Harbor as Celeks back-up.

correction* opening day prospects is that he could displace Celek…..PERIOD*

"if you’re going to act like bitches, then I will treat you like bitches". - AR

Do you hear that? That's the sound of the media ramming the Miracle at the New Meadowlands down your throat for the rest of your life...BAHAHAHAHA....

by theaction on May 9, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Celek Sucks

"if you’re going to act like bitches, then I will treat you like bitches". - AR

Do you hear that? That's the sound of the media ramming the Miracle at the New Meadowlands down your throat for the rest of your life...BAHAHAHAHA....

by theaction on May 9, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU SUCK

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 9, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think he has a better chance of a 2nd TE rather than 3rd..

by EAGLES805 on May 9, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Celek Sucks

"if you’re going to act like bitches, then I will treat you like bitches". - AR

Do you hear that? That's the sound of the media ramming the Miracle at the New Meadowlands down your throat for the rest of your life...BAHAHAHAHA....

by theaction on May 9, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU SUCK

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 9, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

towards theaction.. i’m not good at replying on this site

by Mc5 on May 9, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Celek Sucks

"if you’re going to act like bitches, then I will treat you like bitches". - AR

Do you hear that? That's the sound of the media ramming the Miracle at the New Meadowlands down your throat for the rest of your life...BAHAHAHAHA....

by theaction on May 9, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU SUCK

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 9, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you did reply to him

by 4who-4what on May 9, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he’s being sarcastic. Hard to to tell on the internet

by 4who-4what on May 9, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

No sarcasm....Celek Sucks

"if you’re going to act like bitches, then I will treat you like bitches". - AR

Do you hear that? That's the sound of the media ramming the Miracle at the New Meadowlands down your throat for the rest of your life...BAHAHAHAHA....

by theaction on May 9, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU SUCK.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 9, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That is a very well thought out and nuanced argument you make. Clearly worthy of all of our time in reading and considering your opinion. Well done.

See, that would be sarcasm. Your approach, on the other had, well, sucks.

by ATG. on May 9, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly its worth your time since you took time out of your day to respond

"if you’re going to act like bitches, then I will treat you like bitches". - AR

Do you hear that? That's the sound of the media ramming the Miracle at the New Meadowlands down your throat for the rest of your life...BAHAHAHAHA....

by theaction on May 9, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just cuz he took the time to respond doesn’t make it worth it. Kind of like taking a shit every morning, you do what you gotta do. Celek’s a beast btw, get lost.

by cin7 on May 10, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Werent they in the process of converting Ricky Sapp to OLB? Im pretty sure that was the case. He is a little light to play DE. I think he has a better shot at making the roster at LB anyway.

You only think were front runners because our team is winning.

by andyb on May 9, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

No, they’re keeping him at DE. Spuds had a story up a few months ago about how he’s put on about 15 lbs working out while on IR. He doesn’t have the skills to play LB in a 4-3

by DLawrence55 on May 9, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he put on 15 pounds...

…then he is now the exact height, weight, and armspan as Jevon Kearse.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 9, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they tried him at OLB in OTA’s and minicamps last offseason, but that was quickly kicked to the curb. DLawrence is right. They moved him back to DE and told him to put on weight for this season.

by Smitty2K3 on May 9, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

My thoughts...

…in no particular order.

I think Jamaal Jackson EASILY wins the starting center job back over McGlynn. I would put the chances more at 80/20 than 50/50.

I think Marlin Jackson is a HUGE wildcard. He is a gamer when he is actually on the field and has now, like Jamaal Jackson, had more time to heal his ACL because of a separate injury.

I don’t think Abiamiri will be a factor. Lets face it, he was a good talent when drafted but not a great talent. With all of the time missed, I doubt that he becomes a factor…though with all of the time we’ve held on to him, I hope I’m wrong.

Calvin is gone. He is unspectacular as a kick returner, only getting big returns when huge seems are opened right in front of him. Since he doesn’t even see the field at CB, there is no reason to keep him.

I think Ricky Sapp’s niche will be at defensive end. If he can put on 10 pounds, preferably of muscle, he is the exact size of Jevon Kearse with similar instincts and arm length. I think he could be a force at defense end on the weakside of the line.

Sad deal with Weaver. Outside of football, he seems like a very good person and I hate to see bad things happen to good people. On the field, both Weaver and the Eagles had struck gold finding the perfect player for the perfect situation. With reports that he still walks with a significant limp, I don’t think he makes it back at all.

Mark my words…Ingram will be the number 2 tight end this year. Harbor had more terrible plays than he did good plays and is only an average blocker. The number 2 tight end under AR is normally held by a good blocking tight end but if Harbor and Ingram’s blocking are equal, you take the better receiver which will CLEARLY be Ingram. I don’t think he ever displaces Celek, as someone stated above, but I do love him as our number 2 tight end.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 9, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

My reaction to your thoughts...

… in order.

I think Jamaal Jackson EASILY wins the starting center job back over McGlynn. I would put the chances more at 80/20 than 50/50.

Chances of him being on the team next season are slim. His knee’s untested, his triceps injury could rob him of some range of motion. He doesn’t fit the zone blocking scheme we’ll be running… I’d put the chances of him being on the team next year at 40-60, chances of being the starter at Center at 25%.

I think Marlin Jackson is a HUGE wildcard. He is a gamer when he is actually on the field and has now, like Jamaal Jackson, had more time to heal his ACL because of a separate injury

Agree on him being a huge wildcard.. He’ll be helped by little secondary depth though.

I don’t think Abiamiri will be a factor. Lets face it, he was a good talent when drafted but not a great talent. With all of the time missed, I doubt that he becomes a factor…though with all of the time we’ve held on to him, I hope I’m wrong

The Eagles are wasting money on this guy. Paying him to sit around and rehab, what he he done for us in his years here? Jack shit.. Time to let the walking wounded limp into the sunset.

Calvin is gone. He is unspectacular as a kick returner, only getting big returns when huge seems are opened right in front of him. Since he doesn’t even see the field at CB, there is no reason to keep him

Agree sorta.. he was pretty good in college them missed the year due to injury.. I can see him clinging on due to lack of depth and possibly learning a few years and being a decent role player.

I think Ricky Sapp’s niche will be at defensive end. If he can put on 10 pounds, preferably of muscle, he is the exact size of Jevon Kearse with similar instincts and arm length. I think he could be a force at defense end on the weakside of the line.

If he gets his burst back he’ll be fine.. I don’t see him as a starter but definitely as a good rotational guy.

Sad deal with Weaver. Outside of football, he seems like a very good person and I hate to see bad things happen to good people. On the field, both Weaver and the Eagles had struck gold finding the perfect player for the perfect situation. With reports that he still walks with a significant limp, I don’t think he makes it back at all

While reports said he tore just his ACL are still coming out.. I don’t believe it. That bend in his knee was awful more than just his ACL went.. I read somewhere (an Andy Reid quote a few months back) that he has nerve damage, that’s a big deal… It’s sad but he’s finished here IMHO.

Mark my words…Ingram will be the number 2 tight end this year. Harbor had more terrible plays than he did good plays and is only an average blocker. The number 2 tight end under AR is normally held by a good blocking tight end but if Harbor and Ingram’s blocking are equal, you take the better receiver which will CLEARLY be Ingram. I don’t think he ever displaces Celek, as someone stated above, but I do love him as our number 2 tight end.

Harbor had a big adjustment to make coming into last season and he did well enough.. none of our TE’s did much.. I’d take Harbor over Ingram right now 10/10 times just for the fact that Ingram cannot stay healthy.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 9, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

My reaction to your reaction to my thoughts. lol

Not gonna quote cause I’m cooking…lol

I will reiterate…Jamaal Jackson will not only be on this team next year, but he will be the starter at center. How much different from Jeff Saturday is he really? Zone blocking affects the center least of all the offensive linemen. But his value comes in his ability to recognize what defenses are trying to do and make the line adjustments.

Agree on Marlin.

Agree on Abiamiri…although I will say that there comes a point where you can’t dump him now because of how much you have invested in him to date. He’s one pinky sprain away from being cut though. Better have an injury free year or his CAREER is done.

I still assert that there is no reason to keep Calvin. If he was a dynamic kick returner he’d be fine, but he isn’t. If he was a good reserve CB he’d be fine, but he isn’t. If he was an overall good special teams player, he might be fine, but he isn’t. We can get anyone to field the kickoff and run straight ahead.

Agree on Sapp. I’m not projecting him as a starter…just think he would be a great situational pass rusher that can contribute 6-8 sacks.

Agree with Weaver.

Now…on to Harbor. I am VERY forgiving to rookies trying to learn the pro game and even more forgiving when they have to adjust the way Harbor did. But wide open drops are unacceptable at that position unless you are a dominant blocker…and he had two BIG ones. If he didn’t have a guy with the potential of Ingram behind him, I’d be fine with him…but Ingram is potentially a good tight end….one whom they brought back twice now. They want to see him succeed and if his body holds up, he’ll be 10 times better than Harbor.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 9, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm
I’m cooking

I want some…

I will reiterate…Jamaal Jackson will not only be on this team next year, but he will be the starter at center. How much different from Jeff Saturday is he really? Zone blocking affects the center least of all the offensive linemen. But his value comes in his ability to recognize what defenses are trying to do and make the line adjustments

Well I don’t think Jamaal has the athletic ability we’re going to need.. That and his knee’s completely untested and his arm(s) shot… That and he’s over 30 hasn’t played in over a year, has had major knee surgery.. It’s time to let him go.

I still assert that there is no reason to keep Calvin. If he was a dynamic kick returner he’d be fine, but he isn’t. If he was a good reserve CB he’d be fine, but he isn’t. If he was an overall good special teams player, he might be fine, but he isn’t. We can get anyone to field the kickoff and run straight ahead

Oh I agree.. I was more being the devils advocate on this one… I will say that Calvin was a good prospect before he got hurt, it’s worth a chance to let him compete for a CB job this offseason.. I mean what’s there to lose?

Agree on Sapp. I’m not projecting him as a starter…just think he would be a great situational pass rusher that can contribute 6-8 sacks.

Umm with Cole, Te’o, Parker, Tapp and Graham I don’t think Sapp will touch 6 sacks.. I think 2-4 is his range.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 10, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL
I want some…

Sorry…family ate it all. lol

Well I don’t think Jamaal has the athletic ability we’re going to need.. That and his knee’s completely untested and his arm(s) shot… That and he’s over 30 hasn’t played in over a year, has had major knee surgery.. It’s time to let him go.

All are good points and may very well end up true. And maybe I am just being overly critical of McGlynn, but I was not overly impressed with his play most of last year. He was sufficient…but that’s it. I really think that if the two are given an open competition, McGlynn still doesn’t have a chance.

Calvin…agreed.

Umm with Cole, Te’o, Parker, Tapp and Graham I don’t think Sapp will touch 6 sacks.. I think 2-4 is his range.

Cole is a mainstay on the other side. Te’O is not going to get as much time as people seem to think. Tapp is a two down defensive end and won’t be competition for the situational pass rush attempts for Graham, Parker, and Sapp. Graham is still recovering and not going to be 100% until mid season at best. And Parker is now the second oldest player on the team (after Rocca, assuming Akers is released) and will only be kept around because of his knowledge of Washburn’s system, but tends to wear down as the season progresses so will be used sparingly early on to preserve his legs. These are the reasons I think Sapp can see more than his share of third and 4+ snaps.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 10, 2011 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh....and just to clarify.

I’m not saying that I think Parker should be cut or that I’m unhappy with his production…just that he is a dinosaur when compared to how this team thinks about veterans and that will show in the way that they use him.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 10, 2011 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha.
Sorry…family ate it all. lol

Can I get some second hand?

All are good points and may very well end up true. And maybe I am just being overly critical of McGlynn, but I was not overly impressed with his play most of last year. He was sufficient…but that’s it. I really think that if the two are given an open competition, McGlynn still doesn’t have a chance

I’m probably going to babble so prepare… McGlynn never snapped a ball before last offseason (post draft minicamps actually) then was told he’s only doing it till Jamaal returns (remember Nick Cole was slated as the starter so McGlynn was working with the scout team).. Then Nick Cole’s knee went to shit and McGlynn came in.. Now McGlynn having very little experience at Center, was the man during the preseason, then took over during the first game.. I’m sorry but center is by far the hardest position to play, I played all over the place throughout my time playing football and everything but center came easy, snapping the ball and blocking is hard, the mental aspect’s harder… But McGlynn did very well, he had his off games, but he was never far off, he made some bad calls and that’s on him but for the most part he did his job and did it well, it was the RG position that fucked the OL hard…

Point being.. After a year as the starter if that’s the play we’re going to get from McGlynn from year to year I’m happy with him until we get a younger option in who can grow and be a stud… Not to mention McGlynn on screens with Herremans is the best thing I’ve ever seen they’re nasty and they lay people out.

Cole is a mainstay on the other side. Te’O is not going to get as much time as people seem to think. Tapp is a two down defensive end and won’t be competition for the situational pass rush attempts for Graham, Parker, and Sapp. Graham is still recovering and not going to be 100% until mid season at best. And Parker is now the second oldest player on the team (after Rocca, assuming Akers is released) and will only be kept around because of his knowledge of Washburn’s system, but tends to wear down as the season progresses so will be used sparingly early on to preserve his legs. These are the reasons I think Sapp can see more than his share of third and 4+ snaps.

I actually think Te’o’s going to get more playing time than we think.. He’s a pass rusher who kinda fit Washburn’s mold, I think if he can get healthy (played with a bum shoulder last season) he could be a surprise.. I don’t agree that Tapp’s a two down DE, he’s very Cole-like and honestly he’s a better pass rusher than Parker is, Graham has him beat though… I think Graham’s a non-factor until late next season (kinda like how Bradley picked up towards the end before the Elbow thing)… I agree Parkers old, but I think we have to keep him due to the lack of experienced depth… I think Sapp has potential, however I’m not willing to count him in until he does something.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 10, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry…family ate it all. lol

Can I get some second hand?

Dude… did you just ask if you eat his family’s feces?

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by DeSean10 on May 10, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahahaha..

I was hoping somebody would get it.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 11, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got it...

…but left it alone hoping, albeit unsuccessfully, that it was a typo.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 11, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I'm sorry I just couldn't help it..

it was to fucked up to keep bottled in my head.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 11, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kudos to Brawnybalboa for not calling him “Steward” Bradley

by captain nodar on May 9, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Rec'd

Just for being sensible.

"What a gorgeous dog. What do you feed him?"

by waterfield on May 9, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

What you are missing.

Ingram was a second round talent at worst, but fell because of his knee injury. Had Ingram been there this year, Rudolph would have been 3rd-4th round material. He was tearing it up at camp, catching everything, beating everyone, and then tore his knee up again. Clay Harbor is not half the prospect that a healthy Ingram is and proved that by having a subpar 2010 season. It would really not even be considered him taking Harbor’s job, moreso Harbor losing his job.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 9, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ingram WAS doing a lot of things. Unfortunately, he isn’t doing them anymore.

by DLawrence55 on May 9, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right.

Cause it’s the offseason. He’s had plenty of time to rehab his knee now. If it holds up, he will win the job.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 9, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be more blunt: Ingram could do a lot of things he probably isn’t capable of doing anymore.

I like the guy. But it’s not like we’re missing anything. He’s never played a down for us. All we have is the promise of some unrealized potential. Oh, and a good few weeks of camp. Wish in one hand and shit in the other, see which one fills up first.

by DLawrence55 on May 9, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ingram WAS doing a lot of things. Unfortunately, he isn’t doing them anymore.
Ingram could do a lot of things he probably isn’t capable of doing anymore.

See the difference? Your first comment assumes that he can’t do them anymore. And if that was a safe assumption, your premise would be correct. Your second comment asserts your belief that he might not be able to do those things anymore. It shows that you are not completely sure. And if you are not completely sure, why would you NOT allow for competition at a position where you couldn’t have been satisfied with last year AKA backup tight end.

Look at it this way. Schmitt was adequate at worst at FB. But any way you look at it, Schmitt was MUCH better at FB than Harbor was as the second TE. And they still drafted a player to push/replace him at a position where they will only keep one player. Why wouldn’t you deploy this same thinking onto Harbor when his play was sub par.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 10, 2011 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

First of all, the quotes from DLawrence you took are a major nitpick.

Second, I think you’re way too quick to give Ingram the benefit of the doubt here while writing off Harbor as not being a capable backup TE. I disagree — I think Harbor is every bit as likely to impress during camp as Ingram. If the team didn’t think Harbor had upside, why would they draft him in the fourth round, higher than they drafted both Ingram and Celek?

by Rujasu on May 10, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not a nitpick...

…it is a fundamental difference. One says that he can’t do it which, if true, would completely back up the assertion that he doesn’t need to be brought in for competition. The other, says that ‘he thinks’ he can’t get back to form which means he warrants a look.

And there is nothing wrong with disagreeing. Neither of us are right or wrong…just have our opinions. Hopefully there will be a camp battle and we will see.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 10, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hah! That made me laugh.

by DLawrence55 on May 10, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Soooo...

…what is your response?

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 10, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jack Ikegwuonu was 1st/2nd round talent as well

by BreckBirds20 on May 9, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry I never

say 1st/2nd round talent out of that guy even when he was in college.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 9, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except I’m not missing that at all. I heard you the first time.

I’m not as down on Clay Harbor as everyone seems to be (seriously folks, he was a rookie backup TE… WTF were you expecting from him?) but that’s beside the point. The point is that Ingram wasn’t valued highly enough by the organization to be seen as the third TE. They went with Garrett Mills instead. If you’re high on this guy’s talent, why in the world would you put him behind Garrett Mills?

If this guy has such talent, why did the Eagles not want to protect him? Why did no one take him in the third round? Why did no one take him in the fourth round? Why did no one sign him to a contract when he was released?

Sure, he supposedly had second round potential. You hear that about a lot of guys. Again, the name Jack Ikegwuonu comes to mind. Second round potential, got hurt, got healthy, wasn’t any good. Injuries can have a lasting effect on players. See J.R. Reed. See Marlin Jackson.

And even if he’s recovered in every possible way from the injury, so what? You have a guy who was maybe a second round pick potentially. Let’s assume he really would have been a second-rounder. What’s the success rate on second round draft picks again? Oh wait.

And as for him tearing it up in camp… that’s camp. Billy McMullen was mighty impressive in camp too. It means basically nothing.

by Rujasu on May 9, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point, exactly.

But in a position battle for the backup tight end spot, isn’t it worth it to see if his potential can shine through?

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 9, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said he shouldn’t be invited to camp. If he looks good in camp, he makes the team and maybe challenges for the backup TE spot. I’m just not expecting it to happen, and at this point he may not even be good enough to take the #3 slot.

by Rujasu on May 9, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I agree...

…the problem is you are discounting a player being impressive in training camp. Probably 20-30% of NFL rosters are filled with players who weren’t projected to make the team but had great training camps.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 10, 2011 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but anyone could have a big camp. Harbor, Ingram, Mills, and undrafted guy… if Ingram has a big camp, by all means he makes the team, that’s what I just said. I just don’t expect him to.

by Rujasu on May 10, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

i think its probably worth it bring him into camp if he shows anything close to what he showed before meaning he doesn’t have lasting effects from his injuries and if he actually manages to stay healthy then yes keep him but i think they bring him in and he gets injured again

by CSJones on May 10, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not as down on Clay Harbor as everyone seems to be (seriously folks, he was a rookie backup TE… WTF were you expecting from him?

I was expecting him to become a serviceable blocker. I was expecting him to NOT drop wide open passes. Sorry if these expectations were too lofty.

The point is that Ingram wasn’t valued highly enough by the organization to be seen as the third TE. They went with Garrett Mills instead.

They brought in Mills because Ingram was still rehabbing. What you SHOULD be asking is if Harbor and Mils are so good, why did they bring Ingram back to the practice squad…TWICE. Mills was able to play then…Ingram wasn’t.

If this guy has such talent, why did the Eagles not want to protect him? Why did no one take him in the third round? Why did no one take him in the fourth round? Why did no one sign him to a contract when he was released?

Bowers was projected TOP 5 TALENT and has the same issues with his knee that Ingram had out of school. He slipped to PICK52 at a position of HIGH VALUE…not too easy to imagine a tight end slipping to where Ingram did.

Sure, he supposedly had second round potential. You hear that about a lot of guys. Again, the name Jack Ikegwuonu comes to mind. Second round potential, got hurt, got healthy, wasn’t any good. Injuries can have a lasting effect on players. See J.R. Reed. See Marlin Jackson.

Did you just mention J.R. Reed?? He was an okay player who had an unfortunate injury END his career. Not someone who had an injury that could be rehabbed. And how can you mention Marlin Jackson when you haven’t seen him play post-injury yet? I could understand your argument if he played healthy last year but was ineffective…but you haven’t seen him play since then soooo….

And even if he’s recovered in every possible way from the injury, so what? You have a guy who was maybe a second round pick potentially. Let’s assume he really would have been a second-rounder. What’s the success rate on second round draft picks again? Oh wait.

AGAIN…HE IS A TIGHT END. You are acting like he is an offensive or defensive lineman. Kyle Rudolph was the consensus best tight end in this year’s draft and he went in the second round. Tight end is not a position where you will see a lot of players go in the first round.

And as for him tearing it up in camp… that’s camp. Billy McMullen was mighty impressive in camp too. It means basically nothing.

Now here, we partially agree. However, camp isn’t “basically nothing.” It isn’t to be valued as high as preseason, which isn’t to be valued as high as regular season…but it is far from nothing. ESPECIALLY since the second team offense goes against the first team defense and vice versa the majority of the time. You can’t completely discount it.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 9, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it wasn’t a true career-ender. J.R. Reed returned from his injury, and played some special teams for the Eagles, but he just wasn’t the same. Yes, his injury was more severe than Ingram’s, but like Ikegwounu he’s an example of a guy who lost a step due to a knee injury.

Again, Ingram was projected as a high pick, but high picks fall off the board for a reason. As a rule, in the NFL, knee injuries don’t just go away. They linger, and they ruin plenty of careers.

by Rujasu on May 9, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ingram was projected as a high pick, but high picks fall off the board for a reason.

That’s what they said about Aaron Rodgers.

The NFL draft only has a few themes. 1. Make sure to hit on your player in the first round. 2. Make sure that your middle round picks fill a need and/or at least provide depth. 3. Use some of your low picks for projects or low-risk/high reward players.

Ingram fits into theme #3.

Ingram was drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles in the fifth round (153rd overall) of the 2009 NFL Draft on April 26, 2009 and eventually signed a four-year, $1.9 million contract.
Ingram tore his anterior cruciate ligament during Philadelphia’s training camp in 2009. This was the same injury that kept Ingram from playing his senior season at Florida. He was placed on injured reserve on September 1, 2009. He was waived on September 4, 2010 during final cuts, but was re-signed to the Eagles’ practice squad on November 11.1 He was released from the practice squad on December 16.2 He was re-signed to the practice squad on December 22. His practice squad contract expired after the conclusion of the season. He was re-signed to a future contract on January 11, 2011.

Injuries do linger and they do ruin plenty of careers. But looking at the bolded parts, it certainly doesn’t seem like the Eagles think it has ruined Ingram’s. Or, at the very least, they want to see.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 10, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

In 2010, they waived Ingram and put him on the practice squad, then released him from the practice squad. Look at the other guys who were on the practice squad, and bear in mind that the Eagles were so high on Ingram that they let him go to make room for these guys. Sure, you get a surprise from the practice squad every now and then, but for the most part they’re 7th round guys who didn’t make it and are just kept around because they’re young and no one else wants them.

Obviously they didn’t give up on him totally. But they didn’t even have a permanent spot on the practice squad for him. That’s pretty damning, and it says a lot more bad things about Ingram than good things.

Also, if Ingram was really suffering from a serious injury in 2010, he should have been IR’ed. Apparently the team thought he was able to play.

by Rujasu on May 10, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not completely true.

It’s not necessarily that they didn’t have a place for him on the practice squad. It is a combination of things. The first consideration the team must make when releasing someone from the practice squad is the interest of other teams. Now, as you, I and others have clearly laid out, he slipped all the way to the fifth round, so the interest level can START there. When you combine that fact with the reinjured knee, you scare off the other teams completely. So it isn’t like Ingram was the player on the practice squad they most wanted to cut, it’s more like he is the person on the practice squad they were most likely to cut and still be able to reclaim. They were obviously right since they were able to re-sign him twice now to the practice squad.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 10, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The practice squad doesn’t protect players from being signed by other teams.

by Rujasu on May 10, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have no faith

that Ingram will be able to stay healthy its sad but just like marlin and abiamiri he will not make it because of his injuries in my opinion

by CSJones on May 9, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is a healthy Ingram?

Sophomore year at Florida?

"What a gorgeous dog. What do you feed him?"

by waterfield on May 10, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

blood line

Ricky Sapp hope he’s ready to rumble! He’s last name says it all. He was a BEAST at Clemson

by pragit on May 9, 2011 11:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Ingram

He was a Monster before be got injured his rookie year. I remember reading training camp reports that he was almost impossible to cover in the red zone. It’s a shame his knees were shot. I do remember somewhere it saying that his first surgery in college wasn’t done correctly. IF he is healthy it will be interesting to see how he does. But that is a big IF.

by Skulman7 on May 9, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I watched Training Camp Live...

…everyday that season and this kid was beating EVERYONE and not dropping ANYTHING. And I’m not talking about routine passes either…he was making spectacular catches.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 9, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but haven’t there been reports that he hasn’t returned to the same level of athleticism after rehab that he was at prior to the second ACL tear? If he hasn’t, I think it is a longshot for him to be out Harbor. But, there is no harm in letting him try.

by The Reddgie on May 9, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Haven’t seen those reports. But I’ve seen knee rehabs go both ways. I knew a guy in highschool that tore his ACL and rehabbed and could jump out the gym afterwards after barely being able to dunk before. I’ve also seen people who had to turn into set shooters afterwards. It’s a coinflip…but well worth a camp battle.

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 9, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Reddgie

If I remember rightly, at the start of training camp last year he looked like he did in his rookie OTA’s and training camp. But then he began to struggle as he had picked up 2 injuries, a strained calf (nothing too serious) and build up of pus behind his surgically repaired knee (again nothing too serious). With a whole year free of injury I wouldn’t be surprised to see him start to show his talent!

by Brawnybalboa on May 11, 2011 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

FS: Nate Allen

Definitely the Eagles Rookie of the Year last season

I think Coleman/Chaney can be put in there as well. Allen knew from day 1 that he was going to be a starter. Coleman came in and played both positions during the year and did farely well. And Chaney had to beat out 2-3 guys to get the nod against the Cowboys, and he came up huge in that game…

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by BWestFactor on May 9, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

It was definitely Chaney in my opinion. He was a beeeeeeaaaaaasssst!

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by DickMuffin on May 9, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chaney no.

He played well at the end of the year but Nate produced more.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 9, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Nate tailed off midseason and then got hurt. I guess that could have been due to the RCB play, but I think that Chaney made more of an impact when he was given the opportunity.

Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.

by DickMuffin on May 9, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

While Nate tailed off,

he still did his job. The INT’s and stuff slipped, however he still stopped people and made his plays..

Not to mention the game he got hurt in (the Cowboys game) he had some sick plays and was all over the place.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 9, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think anyoen is saying

Nate didnt play well or is bust or anything. But, when it comes to rookie of the year, I think Chaney (or even Coleman given the circumstances) is as worthy as Allen is …..

Let’s call it a draw.

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In MUDD I trust !!!

by BWestFactor on May 9, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chaney played 3 games..

I don’t think 3 games can really push him up to that status…

Coleman yes I’d make an argument for him..

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 9, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He still worked his way up dude

Allen was GIVEN the job…here you go ..a little present. He performed well at times, he performed poorly at times.

We’re debating on opinions here, but the writter of this post said “Defintely” the rookie of the year, and I just dont think its a fair assessment. “Defintely” means that no one else even close, which isnt true.

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In MUDD I trust !!!

by BWestFactor on May 9, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

* Definitely

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In MUDD I trust !!!

by BWestFactor on May 9, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see your point BWestFactor

But I must disagree with your proposition that Jamar Chaney was the Eagles rookie of the year over Nate Allen.

I will admit, during his 3 starts Jamar Chaney racked up some impressive numbers. But he only contributed down the stretch. You could be picky and compare Nate Allen and his first 4 starts where he racked up 3 INT’s.

I don’t think it is fair to say that Chaney was Rookie of the Year for the Eagles as he played less than 25% of the games in the season. The sample size is too small.

by Brawnybalboa on May 9, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the argument I've been making,

I just couldn’t formulate it.. thanks.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 10, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

While your argument is true...

…there is something to be said about the location on the timeline of the starts. What I am saying is this:

Allen started out of the gate, at a time where the Eagles would have been able to get another FS, either by trade, or free agency. Now, that player probably wouldn’t have been as good as Allen was, however he would have been better than the player that the Eagles could have gotten after the trade deadline to play MLB on a playoff run.

I agree that Allen was the Def. Rookie of the Year, but the reason that the argument for Chaney is valid can be summed up in your three words. “Down The Stretch”

I-C-Y-U-H8-ME

by Qwest on May 10, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair points

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In MUDD I trust !!!

by BWestFactor on May 10, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly Allen

wasn’t really given the job till Marlin got hurt.. And by all reports before that he pretty much already seized it.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 10, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

He seized the job in rookie OTA’s? It was handed to him after that because he was the only other viable option.

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by d-jackfan10 on May 10, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't matter he produced didn't he?

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 10, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I’m just saying, lets not romanticize things and say that Nate Allen was so great that he seized a starting job in non-contact OTAs.

Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
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"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango

by d-jackfan10 on May 10, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's be honest.. That job was his day 1 either way..

Like Watkins is the starter at RG… Jarrett’s most likely the SS day 1.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 11, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jeff Owens is not coming back. He tore his ACL for the second time. He also tore his patellar tendon. He had microfracture surgery. And he then had his ACL repaired via surgery after he healed up from the microfracture procedure. He is done.

Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango

by d-jackfan10 on May 9, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

And for a guy of Owens size he's got a harder road ahead of him than somebody like Sapp.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 9, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I only one that keeps on forgetting about Abiamiri’s existence?

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
Cam Newton: future QB bust

by Imp on May 9, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Who?

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.

Screw being the holder, I wanna be called the quarterback of the field goal team.

by KByars on May 9, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. I ignore he's even there.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

by wild_eagle on May 9, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly forgot that he was on the team until there was that post about how a loophole in his contract kept him with the Eagles for an extra year.

Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.

by DickMuffin on May 9, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

McDougle’s looking VA and thinking "Damn, that dude knows to milk those sons of bitches!’

by DLawrence55 on May 9, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are right DickMuffin

There was some post documenting the loophole in his contract.
The long and short of it was that because he spent a whole season on the PUP list the final year of his contract got voided and repeats this season, hence getting an extra year out of him without the need to resign him.

by Brawnybalboa on May 9, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

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