Who could be ready to emerge?
(Insert bitch fest about lockout)... so I'm going to write up some stuff on a few players I feel are ready to make a big jump for our Eagles.
Height: 6-4
Weight: 315
Experience: 4
Info: McGlynn took over about 3 snaps into 2010 when Jamaal's triceps tore. He played pretty well throughout the year, in fact for a guy who never played center before last off-season in mini-camps he made a tremendous jump and really had a big learning curve to deal with. Think about all the calls he had to learn, he needs to know how deep the QB's going, he needs to know as much, if not more than the Quarterback does about each and every play, on top of that the physical aspects are difficult, try making a clean snap while stepping into your block, it's not easy. I personally loved McGlynn out in space, he moves well for a 300lb man, and he really got out there on screens and sprung McCoy a number of times.
Why I think he'll emerge?.. Mudd's system relies on athletic offensive lineman, and a smart center.. McGlynn physical gifts match what's needed from a physical standpoint, and any man who can learn how to play center in the span of a few months and then come in at the NFL level and play as well as he did is smart as hell.
Height: 6-9
Weight: 325lbs
Experience: 4
Info: King played in 14 games last season, 5 of which were starts. He filled in for Jason Peters for 2 games where he actually shut down Abraham and did very well against Babin, so he stood his ground against 2 of the best DE's in the league last season. Then in the 3 games where he filled in for Justice he held his ground once again against Osi, Tuck, Edwards and Spencer..
Why do I think he'll emerge?... King's not exactly what Mudd looks for in an OLman, however he's got a tremendous skill set and has been improving vastly every season, I could see him making a push for Justice's job considering he's the cheaper option of the two he could end up being our RT.
Height: 6-1
Weight: 270lbs
Experience: 6
Info: Tapp seemed to be around the ball whenever he was on the field, the Eli fumble is a big example, the guy just got to the ball. Tapp had 27 tackles, 3 sacks, 4 pass defenses, and 3 fumble recoveries.. He's a pass rusher who's very quick and plays with good leverage.
Why I think he'll emerge?.. LDE is wide open with Graham's injury, Parker being largely ineffective when played to much, and there being no other true veteran presence.. that and I feel (aside from Graham) he's the best fit for Washburns system. What does Washburn ask his DE's to do? Line up and get after the QB.. what does Tapp like to do? Line up and get after the QB.. It's that simple, the system's tailored for players like Tapp.
Height: 6-0
Weight: 196
Experience: shitty.
Info: Marlin's a walking medical ward, however when he's healthy he's a first round talent and actually looking back at his days with the Colts he was pretty good. We wanted him at Safety, but then he got hurt. Here's to hoping he stays healthy.
Why do I think he'll emerge you ask??? Because he's a very talented player, I think his injuries and such are in the past and he'll be able to give us a few healthy seasons before he's completely spent. I don't think he'll be a starter but right now with the giant hole at RCB and Nate Allen's injury there's no doubt he has a great shot to make this team and play quite a bit.
Let me know what you think, I left some obvious guys like Lindley, the incoming rookies, Chaney etc out because we know so much about them and their chances already.
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Good job WILD
You picked out guys who all still have a pretty high ceiling but no one is really talking about. Your point on McGlynn picked up center with the help of his wife in the offseason and did a good job. Now with Mudd coaching him up and having even more time to pick up the position he can really take his game to the next level. Everyone wants to make the Jeff Saturday comparision with Danny Watkins but I think McGlynn is the better fit. Same position, both an afterthought on draft day, and both are hard working blue collar guys who are a little undersized but make up for it with tenacity on every single play, no exceptions. The more I think about it, the more I really hope we just let Jamaal Jackson go via trade or just cutting him, starting him over McG would be a huge mistake.
King Dunlap is the guy most casual Eagles fans hate but he actually did a good job last year. He was solid againist the Falcons, no doubt about it. He is a very interesting case, lost his starting tackle spot at Auburn as a senior, but the fact that he still got drafted should tell you that he has potential. If his attitude and tenacity are at the level they should be, he will threaten Justice’s job though I don’t think he will win it. At least not right away, but keep an eye on the King come when preseason starts up in Decemeber.
Darryl Tapp is our most underrated defensive player. A guy who can excel when surrounded by talent on the line, which he will. Put him opposite Trent Cole and next to two stud DT’s and I think he will thrive. I believe Parker will be cut to make room for all the young talent we have at DE.
Does Marlin Jackson have even a puncher’s chance of staying healthy for a full season ever again? Doesn’t look very probable but at least he didn’t hurt his knee last year, it was that damn Achilles heel tendon. He can be a stud CB or FS when healthy, same old story as Bob Sanders.
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by MidwesternEaglesfan on May 29, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions
Alright, some good conversation.
You picked out guys who all still have a pretty high ceiling but no one is really talking about. Your point on McGlynn picked up center with the help of his wife in the offseason and did a good job. Now with Mudd coaching him up and having even more time to pick up the position he can really take his game to the next level. Everyone wants to make the Jeff Saturday comparision with Danny Watkins but I think McGlynn is the better fit. Same position, both an afterthought on draft day, and both are hard working blue collar guys who are a little undersized but make up for it with tenacity on every single play, no exceptions. The more I think about it, the more I really hope we just let Jamaal Jackson go via trade or just cutting him, starting him over McG would be a huge mistake.
Yeah I really tried to pick out guys nobody would look at this way.. McGlynn picked up snapping the ball during OTA’s where there’s really no reads or anything to learn, most of the mental work came in Training Camp.. The comparison to Saturday really works, I am surprised I never noticed it McGlynn’s 6-4 315 and Saturday’s 6-2 295, I wouldn’t consider them undersized, but they’re definitely very athletic and smart… If McGlynn’s half of what Saturday was I think we’ll be good for 7-8 years… On a side note I don’t see Jamaal being here.
King Dunlap is the guy most casual Eagles fans hate but he actually did a good job last year. He was solid againist the Falcons, no doubt about it. He is a very interesting case, lost his starting tackle spot at Auburn as a senior, but the fact that he still got drafted should tell you that he has potential. If his attitude and tenacity are at the level they should be, he will threaten Justice’s job though I don’t think he will win it. At least not right away, but keep an eye on the King come when preseason starts up in Decemeber.
Yeah I don’t understand all the King Dunlap hate, it’s gotta be that he’s just to thin, but he does his job and did it very well… I don’t think Dunlap will take Justice’s job, I think Justice is going to surprise us come January when the season starts and really make his mark.. But Dunlaps success, and if he fills in this year for 2-3 games and plays like he did this year he’d be interesting trade bait to a team in need of OL help.
Darryl Tapp is our most underrated defensive player. A guy who can excel when surrounded by talent on the line, which he will. Put him opposite Trent Cole and next to two stud DT’s and I think he will thrive. I believe Parker will be cut to make room for all the young talent we have at DE.
Completely agree.. The issue is though is that I think Parker will be kept until Graham’s ready to return.. if he returns.
Does Marlin Jackson have even a puncher’s chance of staying healthy for a full season ever again? Doesn’t look very probable but at least he didn’t hurt his knee last year, it was that damn Achilles heel tendon. He can be a stud CB or FS when healthy, same old story as Bob Sanders.
I have to believe he’s got a shot. His knee held up, it was his achilles tendon that crapped out… I think the extra time to rest his knee and a year for his heel to recover.. I’d give the odds at 50-50.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
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I think Dunlap will be a very solid starter if given the chance. He looked really good last year, and with a system that focuses on smaller linemen (remember, he’s tall but he’s pretty lean and athletic) I think he has a good chance of stealing Justice’s starting job.
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I think Dunlap will be a very solid starter if given the chance.
But between Justice, Dunlap and Trevor Laws, it’s a good reason to remind ourselves we shouldn’t be in a rush to jettison the Abiamiris and Marlin Jacksons of the world. Maybe they don’t make the team out of camp, but someone this year will play suprisingly well. (Dmitri Patterson belongs somewhere in this discussion too)
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I agree..
I’d say Patterson deserves some credit.. aside from a few games he played really well.. He proved he’s nothing more than a spot starter and backup, but he’s very good at that.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
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Yup. I definitely think he should make the roster.
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Especially if Marlin doesn't..
Patterson was being taught Safety for a bit too.. He could be that swing DB.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Interesting
bit about Patterson being taught safety (granted I don’t see him there) just adds a nice bit of extra value to a role player.
by Two Nickels on May 31, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it was when Allen went down,
they came out and said they were teaching Patterson for emergency’s.
I could see him being a safety with his size and abilities, and he tackles well… He’s worth keeping.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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I agree
He is one of those guys that does a lot of things. He is not great at any one of them but he is some on you can plug in when someone goes down with injury
I'd take Patterson as a fill in at CB for 2-3 games.. he's by no means a guy you want in there as a starter
for much longer than that.. But he did well against Wayne and other good WR’s.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
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"if you’re going to act like bitches, then I will treat you like bitches". - AR
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why don't you write something an post it?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
lost all my time to post...hence the reason i havent really posted lately
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1. McGlynn was barely adequate at C last year. He can’t long-snap, struggled all year to pick up blitz assignments/stunts/et, and didn’t some much overall improvement as the season progressed.
2. Dunlap had some moments last season. He will be interesting to watch in camp.
3. Tapp is a known quantity at this point and a pass rusher he ain’t.
4. Jackson? A few more quality seasons? Seriously?
Umm
1. I said he needs to work on the mental side, which would be everything you listed.. That can be taught.
2. Agree.
3. He’s a pass rushing DE.
4. If he can stay healthy he’d give us 2-3 good seasons.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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1. McGlynn was solid last year, more than just adequate. He isn’t a pro bowler yet, but he maybe on his way. Never playing a position every in your career and then having to learn it and play it in just a few short months says something.
2. The level between Dunlap and Justice is a lot smaller than people think, Justice has to rebound or he will be on the bench.
3. Tapp is solid, not a DE you build around but a guy who will thrive if surrounded by good players.
4. We really don’t know how his knees will hold up for a season and if he is slower or not. Most interesting player to watch in pre season for sure.
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by MidwesternEaglesfan on May 30, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
1. I agree on McGlynn, I also feel he fits this new system so well.
2. I know it’s smaller than what I think, but for right now over a 16+ game season I’d trust Justice and his track record over Dunlap and his 5 starts.
3. Tapp’s a guy who will benefit from the DT’s and Cole, he’ll be our Ray Edwards.
4. Yeah we don’t know yet, hopefully he’s healthy, I hate seeing people so talented lose everything due to injuries.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Great post wild
1- The thing about C is that it is a position that most guys grow into. Hank Fraley grew into it, as did JJax and I would say that McGlynn is as strong and athletic as both of them. Considering that last year was his first true season there, McGlynn should only get better with each snap he makes.
2- I think Justice holds on to the RT spot, as long as he is healthy. That being said, I wouldn’t be worried if Dunlap either won the spot or had to fill in from time to time. He was a big time prospect before his senior year @ Auburn,
3- Tapp could be a huge boost @ LDE if he can thrive in the wide 9 system. I am really excited to see what he can do this year.
4- Here is the head-scratcher. I know that he was good before all of the injuries, I just don’t believe that there is any way he can return to his pre-injury form after dealing with those 3 season ending injuries in consecutive years. And if he does, how can you trust him to stay healthy.
Thank's bud.
1- I completely agree, that’s the point I’m trying to get across and that actually I’d say his growth into the position is much faster than Jjax and Fraley considering how quickly he picked it up.
2- Exactly.
3- Tapps pretty much a lesser version of Cole, he’s bigger but he’s athletic and gets to the QB (see his 13 sack season).. In the Wide 9, which he’s been applauding, he did it in the senior bowl and did well.
4- Agree. I think he could stay healthy but I don’t count on it.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Tapp is a known quantity at this point and a pass rusher he ain’t.
I don’t get where that “pass rusher he ain’t” bit comes from. I don’t even know if he’s even a proven commodity. He’s a season removed from posting 7 sacks and 13 QB hits (in ’09, more hits than Cole, Allen, Ware, Matthews, among others) as a full time end. This year he ended up with reduced numbers (3 sacks, 7 hits) as a result of playing in a greatly reduced role, and even those numbers are decent for the PT he got.
He basically went from being a potential defensive cornerstone in Seattle to a rotation guy here. It’s not fair to judge him based off only this season. And we already know the transgressions of McDermott and Segrest, so he may actually get a chance to blossom under Castillo.
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by alcatraz0109 on May 30, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Tapp
I give a 50% of doing something. To me the rest are just roster spots.
Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.
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by MightyJoeBanner on May 30, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions
Good post
another guy I see up and coming is Riley Copper
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I think he is an interesting player to watch also. He has a bit of fire to him and it will be interesting to see if he can come in and be hungry for a larger role in the offense.
by Two Nickels on May 31, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Cooper
Def gotta show up and be productive this year I think this will be his time to shine if the Plax rumors don’t come to pass. I believe he’s 220lbs at 6’2 with a 4.52-40 so he has the tools to show out. FINGERS CROSSED
He's
6’3 222lb’s runs a 4.45-4.52 depending on where you’re looking.
He had 7 rec for 116 yards (average of 16.6 yards) and 1 TD.
I’d rather keep Cooper over Plax.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5

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