Giants' Kevin Boss Had The Worst Hands Of Any TE In The NFL In 2010
by JasonB on May 26, 2011 10:30 AM EDT
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Pro Football Focus is back with some more numbers about drop percentages. Last time out, it was rough news for Eagles fans when they found out that DeSean Jackson led the NFL in drop percentage among WRs. Thins time around, it's Giants' fans time to take their medicine.
Giants' TE Kevin Boss led all NFL TEs in drop percentage, with a whopping 23.91% of catchable balls thrown his way dropped. You may remember that DeSean Jackson led WRs with 19.67%.
But that's not even what's really ugly about this. Not only was Boss the worst TE in terms of drop percentage last year, he was the worst by a wide margin. As I said, he dropped 23.91% of catchable balls (11 total drops). The second worst, the Patriots' Aaron Hernandez, dropped just 16.36%. In other words, Boss was epically bad catching the ball last season.
That said, we don't have too much room to gloat as Eagles fans. Brent Celek came in with the 10th highest drop percentage at 10.2%. However, he was credited with just 5 drops. Two fewer drops would have put him close to the bottom 10.
Celek does not however make the list of the TEs with the 10 worst drop percentages over the past two seasons, but a few NFC East TEs do. Kevin Boss is obviously on the list (#10), Martellus Bennett of the Cowboys (#5), and Fred Davis of the Redskins is actually the worst over the past two seasons dropping 15.29% of the catchable balls thrown his way.
Not surprisingly, Jason Witten is among the leagues' best in terms of drop percentage.
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whers the real LT when you need him?
someone gotta get ripped for this and he just leaves himself open every time. i guess we jus sit and wait for it lol
I wasn't very suprised about this or the Desean article.
Kind of weird though that they were the worst in the NFL…
Wilpon thinks he's going to get Yankees money. He won't get it. Everything's been wrong with this team.
Fred Wilpon: Not a good owner. Really not a very good owner. Definitely not a superstar.
I'm the shmuck who gave him my contract of loyalty even though he's an idiot. And now, he's increased that idiocy by 65-70%
by BigBlueIntervention on May 26, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions
Even before seeing this
I knew he was going to be up there… but that high? I guess he had the dropsies even worse than I recalled.
no surprise
dude dropped several that i can remember like they were yesterday. a few big 3rd down ones too. i love Kevin Boss, but the man is def not a top receiving TE. He can absolutly get it done in the passing game but hes not even close to a Witten. An above average all-around TE, just not the greatest pass catcher.
by Plaxico Burress on May 26, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
lmao this shit was funny
Goff is a f%^#ing BEAST mutherf*$*r!!!
I’m kind of surprised; it felt like Celek dropped more than that.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
He did.
Here are the official drop stats of NFC players from Stats Inc…
Miles Austin – 10 (5th in the NFL)
Brent Celek – 8 (T-7th in the NFL) I counted 8 myself as well during the season.
Kevin Boss – 6 (T- 17th in the NFL)
Desean Jackson – 6 (T-17th in the NFL) NO WAY he had 12 like PFF said. That would’ve have been noticeable.
Jeremy Maclin – 8 (T-17th in the NFL)
Hakeem Nicks – 8 (T-17th in the NFL)
Now it depends on if you wanna go by official stats that the NFL uses or stats calculated from interpretations by fans like you and I.
There's no difference
A drop is a subjective stat either way. So why would it matter who is recording them? If anything the official NFL stay keepers would be more forgiving. Look at the difference between the stats the eagles keep and the official ones. Tackles especially get inflated.
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by JasonB on May 26, 2011 2:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Plus everyone is judged on the same scale
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by JasonB on May 26, 2011 2:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Let’s say I watched a Panthers game live and I counted four solo and 1 assisted tackle by Jon Beason. I write it down in my little notepad. The box score at NFL.com after the game says 5 solo and 1 assist by Beason. I would be compelled to change it because at the end of the day, their stats are the only one that count and what people(fans, reporters, coaches, agents, players) go by.
It does matter who is recording them and they are not judged the same way. PFF interprets a LOT. A drop to the official stat keepers is probably if a ball hit you in the hands and you don’t catch it, it’s a drop. That’s the same way I look at it. To PFF, they look at “catchable balls” and what not. Let’s say a WR is running a comeback, the QB throws the ball a little early and as soon as the WR turns around, the ball hits him on his arm before he was ready to catch it. PFF might have counted that as a drop while I or Stats LLC would not. I like some of their stuff but some of their stuff is just bad. If I can’t find any official stats, then I use whatever they have.
I watched every single Eagles game and there is no possible way Jackson dropped 12 passes that him in the hands nor did Brent Celek drop only 5 passes.
But, all those things you said are just guesses. We don’t know what criteria STATS INC or PFF use to count these subjective stats. So we can’t know what is better.
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I thought I'd see...
“It’s not Boss’s fault, it’s how the Giants use him.” like I see in every other post that makes the claim that Boss is not the best TE ever.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
Well, it is the Giants fault. After all, they are the ones throwing him the ball…. :)
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You're the only one who thinks that.
But of course (even a dumb eagle fan should know this), if you are targeted more, you will have more chances for more catches, which comes with more yards.
Kevin Killdrive (G-Men OC) dislikes using TEs, that’s why Jeremy Shockey was a disgruntle player when he was with the Giants.
Goff is a f%^#ing BEAST mutherf*$*r!!!
To summarize
1. Claim no one would make the purported statement.
2. Insult the commenter and 99% of readers.
3. Make a vague statement about chances and yards, ignoring the fact that the article was about drop rate.
4. Make the exact statement dismissed in #1.
I hope you were going for irony, but I just can’t convince myself.
by ATG. on May 27, 2011 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I knew i'd get someone with that comment
Almost too easy
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on May 27, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do you always come on the EAGLES fan board and make posts about how dumb Eagles fans are? I don’t mind Giants fans coming on here, namely BigBlueIntervention, when they have something worthwhile to say. But you contribute nothing, just get defensive if someone says something bad about the Giants. That’s what Eagles fans do!
by The Mad Hopper on May 27, 2011 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Because this article is about the Giants dumbass.
Goff is a f%^#ing BEAST mutherf*$*r!!!
And we have a winner
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on May 27, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The last few years
it has been.
The article shows he had 15 drops in the last 3 years, 11 of them last year alone!
Which means he only averaged two drops a season the two years before ’10.
I don’t think anyone ever claimed Boss was the greatest TE, but there was reason to believe he’d be better.
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Dead Serious. ..
It’s not Boss’ fault, Eli sets him up for a devastating hit after catch EVERY time. Nobody in the NFL was blasted at any recieving position MORE times than Boss. Not even Collie, who after a while it just became freakish w/ the constant concussions.
'Study long. ... Study wrong. ..' Chad Butler
by Illadelphia-Braintrust on May 26, 2011 7:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It's not entirely Eli's fault.
Kevin Boss has very little plays, that are called, designed for him. Whenever you see a player get cracked, it’s most likel, because the QB was trying to make a play, after their initial reads were covered.
Nobody is going to design a play for the intended receiver to receive a devastating blow.
Goff is a f%^#ing BEAST mutherf*$*r!!!
Not surprisingly, Jason Witten is among the leagues’ best.
in terms of drop percentage
by CowboysFan4Life on May 26, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
He's not your problem
its the fact that u guys have the only female qb in the NFL
"Laying in an empty pool,with a pistol" -Warcloud.
by Dunta Is A PUNK on May 27, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
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