The 10 Philadelphia Eagles With The Most To Prove
[Note by JasonB, 05/26/11 12:43 AM EDT ] Promoted from fanposts
The Philadelphia Eagles have depth. There is no doubt about it. We may not have a RCB yet. We may not be the vegas favortieto win the Superbowl, but we have depth. Two things that are true with depth: For one, a deeper team can survive a lot of injuries to starters(we face that obstacle every singleyear). Two, the difference between starting and not making the team on a really deep team can be a very small margin for a lot of players. The top 10 Eagles with the most to prove in order after the jump.
10. Brent Celek- He more than doubled his yardage from his first two years in his third season in 2009 with 971 receiving yards along with 76 receptions and 8 TD's. Last year those numbers dipped tremendously to 511, 42 and just 4 touchdowns. It was pretty obvious that his numbers had to do with staying in to help in pass protection, but Celek did have 7 drops last season. Celek doesn't have a big contract to play for in 2011, as he is signed thru 2016, but he does need contribute more in the offense as he can and should be a reliable 3rd down/red zone weapon.
9. Marlin Jackson- Remember him? Very good player when healthy, unfortunately he hasn't been healthy in over 3 years. The last 3 years he has torn both of his ACLs and last year he tore his Achilles tendon. He hasn't played a full season since 2007. This is probably his last chance to prove he can stay healthy and make a team. He can still play at a high level, he just needs to prove he can stay healthy. The last 4 games he did play in, he had 16 tackles, an interception, 1 forced fumble and a pass defensed.
8. Broderick Bunkley- The former 14th overall pick in 2006 really took a turn for the worse in 2010. He had 20 tackles and a grand total of 0 sacks. Bunk has never really thrived on our previous DL scheme, accumulating just 6 total sacks in 5 years with 0 forced turnovers. He played in a more aggressive scheme at Florida State and could benefit the most from Coach Wash. He is in the final year of his contract so he is not only fighting for a starting spot, he is fighting for a long term deal.
7. Moise Fokou- Stats don't really tell the whole story with MoFo. He got a lot of playing time at the end of 2009 and played really well. For some reason, Akeem Jordan got the start at SAM over Fokou in 2010 and the defense got run over the first 4 games. He started every meaningful game after that at SAM and the run defense greatly improved. However, with Chaney possibly starting at MIKE, Fokou could be battling with Stewart Bradley at the SAM spot.
6. Mike Patterson- 13 career sacks since being drafted 31st overall in 2005, but just 4 total sacks in the last 3 seasons. Patterson was a dominating force in college, earning him the nickname "Baby Sapp", but has been used more to just take up space rather than wreck havoc in the backfield. Patterson, like Bunk, is another DT who could thrive under Jim Washburn but maybe have to lose weight to get some of his quickness back.
5. Juqua Parker- Started the year off hot, getting 4 sacks in the first 3 games but finished the year with just 2 more in the final 13 games. Lack of a true rotation at DE and the injury to Brandon Graham played a part on his decline sure, but he is 33 now and entering the final year of his contract where he is set to make 4.3 mil. If he shows any decline is his ability in training camp, he could be gone.
4. Chad Hall- Didn't really wow anyone in 2010, but he was removed from football for two years serving our country in the Air Force. Maybe a full year in the NFL will get him back physically to where he was at Air Force in 2008 where he lead his team in both rushing and receiving as a senior. The Eagles are already loaded at wideout with DeSean, Mac, Avant and Cooper, along with the rumors of adding Plaxico Burress. Making the team as a wideout won't be easy, but if he can show us something as a kick returner, he has a very good shot at making the team again.
3. Jamaal Jackson- Our starting center for 3 1/2 years after beating out Hank Fraley in 2006, and after taking over for an injured Hank in 2005. However, he tore his ACL in the 2009 season and tore his triceps in 2010. Before his injuries he proved to be one of the top center in the league. Now he must not only show he can stay healthy and that he hasn't lost a step, he must prove he can fit in Howard Mudd's OL system. He also must beat out his replacement Mike McGlynn who filled in admirably last season despite having no experience at the position. Jackson is signed through the 2013 season but isn't set to make anymore than 1.8 mil in a given year.
2. Stewart Bradley- Once thought of as a future multi-pro bowler is now a injury concern who could be moved to the outside or could be be on his way out altogether. In 2009 he tore his ACL at Flight Night and in 2010 he suffered both a concussion and a dislocated elbow. When healthy, he has the ability to be one of the best 4-3 linebackers in the league and is capable of playing MIKE or SAM. His contract status is a complete mystery. Depending on the new CBA, he could be tendered on a one year deal or he could be a unrestricted free agent. The question is will he be brought back or not, and if so will be moved to SAM to make room for Jamar Chaney?
1. Winston Justice- Pretty obvious right? He had knee surgery in the off-season and was benched in the playoffs last year. That right there gives him a lot to prove, factor that with a new but very very highly regarded OLcoach, and he has a 2011 season that will make or break him as an Eagle. The Eagles didn't draft one offensive tackle so that may be a sign that the team has a ton of faith in him, or maybe they're just waiting on free agency. Justice has had an up and down career already from that SNF game where Osi Umenyiora made him his bitch(there really is no other way to put that), to the 2009 season where his high level of play earned him a 4 year 18 million dollar extension. A healthy knee should go a long in getting him back to his 2009 form, this team won't stand for another year of mediocre play on the right side for a team that's new motto is Superbowl or bust.
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you're stupid, retarded, or drinking to much hater-aid!!!!
with out Vick the Eagles would of been in last place behind Washington moron.
Get over it all ready…
Death is coming for everyone, and that makes living fun.
Wow, I could say the same to you
If Vick sucks next year, which I doubt, he’ll have a lot to prove. A lot of QB’s have one great year then die off, Vick needs to prove he can do it again, anyone who says otherwise is, well, you already gave a list.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Oh shut the fuck up.
He’s got a point.. Here’s a quick list Vick needs to prove:
(1) He can stay healthy for 19 plus games
(2) he can continue to play at this high level he’s been at.
(3) He can continue to stay out of legal issues.
(4) he can read blitz’s better.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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(5) Start games off better, a lot of comeback wins last year.
(6) Makes teams pay for selling out to get after Vick
(7) Get the ball to Celek, killed my fantasy team last year
"The positions I played, every play, I was making contact, not like that … Deion Sanders. He couldn’t tackle my wife. He’s back there dancing out there instead of hitting." -Chuck Bednarik
by MidwesternEaglesfan on May 27, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Start games off better, que?
He’s had three passing plays of more than 30 yards on the first play of the game.And we are the second best team in the NFL to the Saints in scoring in our first drive.
Rivals beware
by starship 007 on May 27, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
When I say start games off better
I’m talking about the first quarter.. He’s got his plays, but there’s no denying that at times we went 2-3 quarters without Vick being spectacular, then he’d turn it on at the end.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
I agree..
On all of that.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
1) Vick WILL stay healthy when the Offensive line improves. This line is horrible!
2) Mute point
3) How long does the dog fighting have to hang around his neck. He did his time and is going out and doing public speakings on the matter. Refer to answer number 2.
4) “he can read blitz’s better.” Vick is a natural blitz reader. He’s a run first minded QB, and had the skills to do it well. It’s the way he plays the game, yet you’re claiming hes getting sack more than most other QBs, WOW!; refer to number 1.
5) You can blame the crummy Defense for that, giving up all those points, they’re not that talented or very good.
6) Refer to number 1, and a bigger back would help.
7) Celek had a garbage season. Celek dropped tons of passes last season. I hope he’s not a one year wonder.
Death is coming for everyone, and that makes living fun.
by bojackson34 on May 29, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Umm
(1) What about runs like when he fucked his chest against the Redskins? His beating wasn’t just the OL’s job, he could slide and duck out of bounds when he scrambles but he doesn’t..
(2) How the fuck is that a mute point dumbass?
(3) Because he’s a professional athlete, his image isn’t fully rebuilt, that’ll always hang over his head just like it would anybody else, his is just on a larger scale due to his fame.
(4) Oh you’re fucking dumb.. Reading blitz’s has nothing to do with avoiding them, it’s presnap, you see who’s coming and call them out, this is remedial shit bro… and as for getting more sacks than most other QB’s, yes, anybody who know’s anything about football knows running QB’s get sacked more than non-mobile QB’s.
(5) No, I won’t blame the Defense for Vick’s struggles in the 1st quarter.
(6) A bigger back would help how?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Bo Jax apparently missed
Michael Vick for MVP
in maximdm’s signature line. Couldn’t be less of a hater.
Beat it, troll.
Secretary of State for BGN aka "Most diplomatic man on this site," as appointed by Talon Talent
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Reread my post before you open your mouth.
swallow it, pillow biter.
Death is coming for everyone, and that makes living fun.
by bojackson34 on May 29, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
who are you?
you root for the dumbest team in sports and it shows. Don’t come on here callin people names and expect to get away with it.
First, you tell him to reread your post? He commented before you posted anything (besides your first waste-of-space comment) so there’s a great chance he hasn’t even read it once. Don’t tell him to “reread” it. Second, after READING your second waste-of-space comment, it becomes apparent that either a) you haven’t hit puberty yet but are frustrated because you can’t figure out whether your first pubic hair is actually your penis or not (hint: you can’t pee through a pubic hair), or b) You lead a sad life of solitude and your only escape is calling people who are smarter than you “retard, pillow biter, hater” on the internet. Of course, it could be both.
Either contribute something or go read a book. Don’t just spout stuff you overheard your daddy say.
"I don’t know whether I prefer Astroturf to grass. I never smoked Astroturf." - Joe Namath
by David_K on May 29, 2011 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sorry but.
a) you haven’t hit puberty yet but are frustrated because you can’t figure out whether your first pubic hair is actually your penis or not (hint: you can’t pee through a pubic hair),
Best insult ever.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Dude
You have a threat for your Defensive Player of the Year, better step it up.
"The positions I played, every play, I was making contact, not like that … Deion Sanders. He couldn’t tackle my wife. He’s back there dancing out there instead of hitting." -Chuck Bednarik
by MidwesternEaglesfan on May 29, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, if it's taken then it's taken.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Dude, get out of here, fucking trolls man..
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
even if
marlin stays healthy through camp, i dont see where he fits in on the roster
How can you trust a guy who has missed the last 3 years because of torn ACLs and a ruptured achilles? Those surgeries aren’t like Tommy John surgeries, where the guy comes back stronger.
Those surgeries aren’t like Tommy John surgeries, where the guy comes back stronger.
I disagree with this statement. My Knee’s stronger now than before I tore my ACL, they repair them that way..
Other than that statement I fully agree with you.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
I had never heard that before. Thanks. I guess the guys who re-injure the same ACL after a surgery (I am looking right at you Ingram), it is more a function of the quality of, or lackthereof, the surgery?
Typically when you have ligaments and stuff
replaced they tend to make that stronger so it doesn’t happen again.. I mean there’s times when my knee is noticeably weaker, but for example before surgery I was squatting 225, after rehab I was squatting 275…
Guy’s who typically re-injure themselves have it happen for many reasons (1) Shitty ass luck, (2) The graft fails and (3) Don’t rehab properly (4) The doctors do a piss poor job.
1- I just feel sorry for those guys (people like Marlin)
2- My buddy had his done, his body rejected the graft 4 months after surgery.
3- You’re fault, it’s a common thing that happens.
4- Ingram’s surgery at Florida was done wrong from what I read, and this lead to the 2nd tear.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
I know when I broke my collar bone, the doc told me it would heal stronger, but that was more to do with the bone healing process in that location and how the body naturally overcompensates in healing a bone when the body is still growing (I was 11 when I did it. Ahh, the good old days).
Ligaments and bone are more or less the same
bone just has calcium and other minerals in it, but they both fall into the realm of connective tissue. It’s very easy once you have anything in place to create more connective tissue (that’s how the body repairs itself).
The problem happenss when you tear muscle along with the connective tissue. The bottom layer of the muscle actually has stem cells that can multiply and develop into new muscle. This is essentially what happens when you work out; you have minor tears in your muscles and new cells grow on top to strengthen the fibers and let you lift more.
However, when you injure yourself, sometimes you tear the layer that contains all the stem cells. Then, the body can’t replace the muscle tear, so it replaces the muscle tear with connective tissue…making it much more easier to tear (and of course adds no strength)
Wilpon thinks he's going to get Yankees money. He won't get it. Everything's been wrong with this team.
Fred Wilpon: Not a good owner. Really not a very good owner. Definitely not a superstar.
I'm the shmuck who gave him my contract of loyalty even though he's an idiot. And now, he's increased that idiocy by 65-70%
by BigBlueIntervention on May 26, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
However, when you injure yourself, sometimes you tear the layer that contains all the stem cells. Then, the body can’t replace the muscle tear, so it replaces the muscle tear with connective tissue…making it much more easier to tear (and of course adds no strength)
I found this interesting but I don’t think it’s that true. I mean some of it’s stem cells, however protein and amino acid’s create more muscle tissue, and when you tear the fibers they repair through getting thicker and connecting again.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
the protein is used by these stem cells once they differentiate
to make the fibers to thicken muscle.
For more information, the stem cells that I’m referring to are called satellite cells and they differentiate into myoblasts/myocytes
Wilpon thinks he's going to get Yankees money. He won't get it. Everything's been wrong with this team.
Fred Wilpon: Not a good owner. Really not a very good owner. Definitely not a superstar.
I'm the shmuck who gave him my contract of loyalty even though he's an idiot. And now, he's increased that idiocy by 65-70%
by BigBlueIntervention on May 26, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmm. I've heard of this, but I swear your body only uses those stem cells when you like
tear your bicep, triceps, or chest muscles completely (like an injury).
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Yeah, defnitely involved in that
If you just do a normal work out, then you probably don’t tear it enough to kill some of the existing myocytes that are pumping out fiber, but enough, and you’ll see some of those cells getting into the action…but you’re right, its mostly during injury
With all this I was just trying to give a possible explanation about why some people after surgery might be a bit weaker, whereas some get stronger. Those who are weaker could’ve also torn muscle, possibly.
Wilpon thinks he's going to get Yankees money. He won't get it. Everything's been wrong with this team.
Fred Wilpon: Not a good owner. Really not a very good owner. Definitely not a superstar.
I'm the shmuck who gave him my contract of loyalty even though he's an idiot. And now, he's increased that idiocy by 65-70%
by BigBlueIntervention on May 26, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I always thought it was only with a big injury…
And yes I understand your basis for throwing that info out there.. This is the reason I don’t feel Jamaal Jackson’s going to be playing for us next year.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Yeah pretty much, you're body just packs on some more calcium and shit where it broke,
you can normally see old breaks on x-rays because they’ll be darker due to more material.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Completely disagree...
I’ve seen people come back immensely stronger afterwards. I don’t know whether it is due to the surgery or the intesity of the rehab, but I have seen it happen.
I-C-Y-U-H8-ME
I'd both.
When I did my knee they told me that they double up the tendon and mammy ligament to make it stronger than the one that was there before.. And that the rehab helps make you stronger.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
I'd = it's.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
When I tore my ACL they replaced it with an African american’s and it added 6" to my vertical leap.
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on May 26, 2011 12:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't know if you're joking or what..
But I added about 5 to my jump.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
He could....
…be moved back to cornerback, if nothing else. What our team has learned is that it is best to get your best 11 on the field however possible. If he’s in that group and has the versatility to do it, he’ll find the field.
I-C-Y-U-H8-ME
I've been saying..
That 3rd safety plays a lot for us.. Even when it was Mikel and Allen, Coleman still saw the field a little before the injuries. And even when it was Coleman and Mikel they got Anderson and others involved at Safety.
Also it’s not like Hanson’s that good and he’s making some good money. I’d risk letting Hanson go, letting Jackson play the slot and if he gets hurt letting Lindley be the 3rd CB.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
My top 10 with something to prove.
10. Mike Vick- Last year could’ve been a fluke, he kinda got figured out towards the end of the year and struggled, couldn’t really stay healthy. He needs to prove he can play at a high level still while staying healthy.
9. Bradley- Needs to prove he can return to a high level and stay their.. Oh and stay healthy.
8. Watkins- He needs to prove we’re not crazy for drafting a 26 year old man.
7. Justice- Personally I think he played fine. He needs to step it up again this year to make up for his play at the end of 2010, he’s gonna be very important with Vick’s blindside.
6. McCoy- Doesn’t have to prove he’s got the talent, ability, work ethic etc.. He needs to prove he can do it again.
5. Bunkley- We’re moving into his system, the one he created havoc in at FSU. Everything’s aligned for him to succeed now we just gotta see him do it.
4. Marlin- Could be a good piece in our secondary. Needs to stay healthy, he’s very talented otherwise.
3. Jarrett- You don’t spend a 2nd round pick on a guy and not play him especially when this is all but announcing to the world you’re letting one of the best DB’s on your team go.. He’s gotta prove he can fill Mikels place.. (this could easily be Coleman too).
2. Chad Hall- He’s gotta prove he’s worth a roster spot. I buy he was rusty from being away from football for so long, I buy he needed to get into football shape. I thought he looked pretty good late in the year and at times.. Doesn’t have to be a big part of our offense, but I’d like to see him do more with the chances he gets… If we’re gonna get what we got outta Hall last season again this season I would rather us go out and get a guy like Chris Matthews who’s 6’5 and 218lbs who runs a 4.5 and had 61 catches for 925 yards and 9 TD’s opposite of Randall Cobb.
1. Tapp- I think he needs to prove he was worth the trade. He played well last year in limited time, but I really think he’s a potential starter especially with Graham out. He needs to play at a high enough level to help out Cole.. I think Tapp’s got the potential to be one of the better DE’s in the game (not top 10 or 20 but better than average.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
BTW there's no real order on this, I wanted there to be but I just kinda listed.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
I like your inclusion of Hall, Tapp and Bunkley. If Tapp and Bunkley can improve from last year, then our DL could be really good and hopefully get pressure without an excess of blitzing, which would make it easier on the rest of the defense to do their jobs.
Yeah I mean
Tapp’s got some talent, he’s big, fast, strong, and he seems to love Washburns system.. Bunkley master this system in college…
I can’t wait lol.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
DT dominance is the biggest key to a great defense. We have 4 guys who I honestly think can form a dominating rotation. All 4 of them, maybe not Patterson so much, have room for improvement and from everything I jave been reading, these guys fit the wide 9 better than what McD was trying to do.
Eh, DL dominance is key..
But I understand what you’re saying.. And yes our DT’s really fit the mold well.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Agree with you on Tapp.
But I think if anyone is poised for a breakout year, It’s this guy. If it was my choice, He would start, and Parker would be rotated in….Not the other way around.
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
That's exactly what I've been saying all offseason.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Sims needs to prove that he was not lobotomized.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
Who would have thought the world could go so crazy that Eagles fans would actually have to defend the rights of Giants to say fuck the Eagles. What’s next, cats fucking dogs?
by KByars on May 25, 2011 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I was just gonna say that.
Sims really needs to make a bigger impact. I was expecting a lot more from him last year. I don’t see him staying if he doesn’t impress at camp (if there is one).
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He's the kind of guy who impresses at camp though
and stinks in games. He has all the tools but lacks the football instincts I guess. I can’t remember one great play he made in 16 games last year.
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
uhhh.. Brandon Graham
He did nothing of significance last year and drafted him 13th overall.
Who's Been Eatin' Hummus?
She passed wind, excused herself, and sponged off in the corner as I sat dazed and confused...
I wouldn't list him because he's gonna be a non-factor
most likely
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
I wouldn’t mind seeing him on PUP all year so that he can get completely healthy and come back at 100% (or better) in 2012. We have a plethora of pieces at DE right now, I am hoping that they can perform at a high enough level that Graham isn’t needed on the field.
PUP only last till week 6..
I’d like to see where he’s at after the PUP list, if he’s not ready then sit him, if he can come in and atleast learn the system and practice then keep him, I’m sure we’ll make a run into the playoffs, by the time we’re in the WC’s and shit he should be fresh and ready to go..
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
I think
Cornelius Ingram has to have something to prove. Its all or bust this year. " Im leaning towards bust" But who knows
This
I think if hes healthy he could be a great TE who could be good in the red zone
AKA Detective Electric
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by Mr.electric10 on May 25, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If Ingram is healthy
He will be a monster this guy has all the tools to be amazing. Crap repair job he got in college let to the NFL injury. Keeping my fingers crossed
Abiamiri should be on the list.
2nd rounder who’s done nothing.
Kolb too?
As long as Kolb gets us a 1st rounder i’ll be happy
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by Clint Eastwood on May 25, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
How the hell is this the first time I’m seeing Moise Fokou referred to as “MoFo?” It’s been just sitting there on the tee for 3 years.
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by JimmyK on May 25, 2011 11:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 4 recs
I thought that too, but didn’t say anything because I was afraid that everyone else was calling him that, and I just missed it.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
Who would have thought the world could go so crazy that Eagles fans would actually have to defend the rights of Giants to say fuck the Eagles. What’s next, cats fucking dogs?
I know!
I can’t believe no one has said that before. When I saw that I was like,“oh… Shit.” now he actually has a good nickname.
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on May 26, 2011 1:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My thoughts exactly!
I was coming down to post just this. I think if he had been a bigger factor on the team it would have happened sooner.
Remember where you heard it first
"The positions I played, every play, I was making contact, not like that … Deion Sanders. He couldn’t tackle my wife. He’s back there dancing out there instead of hitting." -Chuck Bednarik
by MidwesternEaglesfan on May 26, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Kimmy I think a lot of us feel a little sheepish for not noticing it earlier. I hope he comes in a works his ass off because saying “hes one bad MoFo” is just perfect
Beleive it or not.....
i still think vick has the most 2 prove, not only to his critics but the rest of the league, lets not take anything away from Mike he had a sensational year but sorta tailed off at the end once teams decided 2 throw the kitchen sink at him. I also think.
Also im very surprised that nobody has mentioned Danny Watkins, this guy has to validate his 1st round status in a hurry.
Read my comment above,
Vick, and Watkins are on it.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
But he's saying Vick has the MOST to prove
I do think Vick should be number one on all of these lists, because of his importance to the team, because of the magnitude of proving that which needs to be proved: that last year wasn’t a one-year-only resurgence, that he and the coaching staff can outsmart and outplay defenses that have had more then enough of an off-season to scheme against him, that he can stay healthy (and learn to slide just every once in a while), other players may be sitting on a hotter seat, but Vick has the most significant and important results to prove.
by Nathan Mandel on May 26, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I covered all that lol..
Vick’s got a lot to prove.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
He does
but I still do not think he was “figured out” I think he wore down, and teams figured out our O-Line more then Vick. I think he is still far to spontaneous and athletic to totally game plan for. Vick sort of goes how our O-Line goes. I cannot name many QB’s who would have survived behind that line. I do agree with everything else you stated though
While I agree he may have "worn out"...
That raises far worse issues than being figured out.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Well he could have become " worn out" because of all those hits he was taking behind that suspect line. More time in the pocket will mean less hits, less running, and more accuracy..
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on May 27, 2011 7:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's true.. However running QB's historically take more sacks than non-mobile QB's.
And while yes the suspect line was to blame for some of the issue, him running and not sliding or ducking out of bounds is solely on him, I love it personally, but it’s on him.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
True
As much as our O line contributed to a lot of the hits Vick took it also spills over to Vick minimizing some of the more “self inflicted” punishment he receives.
by Two Nickels on May 31, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Look at the vast majority of his runs,
he ends them by colliding with an opponent for 1 yards rather than ducking out of bounds.
Now I love that, it’s good if we need that 1 yard for a first down, but other than that when you pick up the first plus more just avoid the contact and go out of bounds..
Also Vick’s injuries pretty much came from when he was running and not going down.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Chad Hall
Stinks and hopefully we won’t be talking about him after preseason.
Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.
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by MightyJoeBanner on May 26, 2011 7:56 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’d love to see a fellow Airman on team. But then again, I’d love to see Baskett back too. Obviously my opinions are a bit bias.
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Baskett?
This is why you shouldn’t smoke crack.
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Eli Manning has the personality of a baked potato.
I didn't say my opinions were good!!!
How can you not like Baskett after reading the Silver Lining Playbook!?
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The real question is....
how can you like Baskett?
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by Two Nickels on May 31, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Bunkley and Patterson.
Both of them were terrors and disruptions in college. Major disruptions. And yet here, in Philadelphia, we asked them basically to just eat up blockers. So why, oh why, did we draft two DTs whose strengths were penetration and use them to… stand there. Why didn’t we draft those NTs who were already 320-340 lbs? That’s what I don’t get. I don’t really mean to slag on the guys, since we drafted them and forced them to fit our system, but honestly, this is as irritating as drafting big OLBs to play DE and small DEs to play OLB. The latter, I’m glad we finally broke that trend this past draft.
Alex Henery
He’s going to walk in with the expectations to perform just as good as one of the best players at his position in the last 15 years.
What about Victor Abiamiri?
He has shown some flashes when he did play. He is still our biggest DE also. I would like to see him finally stay healthy and contribute in certain situations. If he can do that, we will have one hell of a rotation at DE. My biggest fear with guys like him is that we cut him, he goes somewhere else and becomes a Pro Bowler.
First off..
When has Abiamiri played? and what do you consider flashes??
I’m nor worried about cutting him and risking him becoming a probowler, he can’t stay healthy here and we’re loaded at DE.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
I would like to see him
I thought he was good against the run when he played.
I wouldn’t worry about the Pro Bowler part, but I do hate when you put all the work in on a guy and then he goes somewhere else and stars.
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What about,adding dto to this list?
by ytylerdurden on May 26, 2011 11:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think it goes without saying that 3/4 of this team has something to prove. Less than half of the starting spots are “guaranteed” to specific players. The depth on this team (while young) is pretty deep. Should make for an interesting start to the season ….if it ever gets here…
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In MUDD I trust !!!
1. Justice for the reasons you mentioned. He got benched!
2. Jerome Harrison we need a change of pace back.
3. Avant or Cooper we need one of these guys to be consistent on possession downs and/or redzone.
4. Celek or Harbor neither impressed last year.
5. Jackson or Kelce our C position has been a weakness for us for sometime.
6. Watkins we drafted him ahead of J.Smith when we need a CB, Wilkerson, Ayers, Aaron Williams and both DE Camerons.
7. Graham, Te’O or Tapp one of these guys has to step up and help Cole.
8. Every LB
9. Every DB not named Samuel or Hanson
Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.
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by MightyJoeBanner on May 26, 2011 2:20 PM EDT reply actions
Every DB not named Samuel or Hanson
Hanson has a lot to prove to remain on this team. The only reason he’s still on it is because of lack of depth at the position, and they would be eating up too much of a cap hit by getting rid of him. Patterson or Lindley could step up and steal his “great slot CB” role in a sec…..
Hanson is one of their worst CBs IMO…
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Typical opinion
But it’s wrong. Hanson is a very solid Nickel CB, he sucks on the outside but he is solid in the slot. That doesn’t mean he will never give up a completion, but he does a good job. He will be replaced soon because we have Marsh and Lind fighting for time on the field now and Hanson has already hit his ceiling.
"The positions I played, every play, I was making contact, not like that … Deion Sanders. He couldn’t tackle my wife. He’s back there dancing out there instead of hitting." -Chuck Bednarik
by MidwesternEaglesfan on May 26, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
So let me get this straight….. You oppose my opinion by trying to give a fact, which is YOUR OPINION?
????
Who the fuck are you?
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In MUDD I trust !!!
btw this isnt meant to be an ass towards you or anything … I just hate it when people dismiss opinions by giving their own opinion and stating them as fact…. its pretty low of caracter….
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by BWestFactor on May 26, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your wrong again
This is a dictatorship and whatever you say is wrong. If you remember that than you’ll be alright. But seriously though, not the best way to put my opinion, but there’s too many fans who don’t think Hanson is any good based on…? I just don’t get it. Explain to me why he sucks.
"The positions I played, every play, I was making contact, not like that … Deion Sanders. He couldn’t tackle my wife. He’s back there dancing out there instead of hitting." -Chuck Bednarik
by MidwesternEaglesfan on May 26, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ive seen him fuck up too many times, he has a big ego & he’s over paid…
That is my opinion and I really dont care what anyone else thinks.
For the same reasons some people hate patterson and others think he has value, its our opinions…
I dont care what Joe Scout says, I base my opinions on what I see. If you dont like it, too bad.
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I dont
put a ton of confidence in these stat sites that rank players. But I read a blog that ranked him the best Nickle back in terms of. yards per completion and completion per attempt.
So he can’t suck. But I don’t find his play exciting. It is what it is.
Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.
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by MightyJoeBanner on May 27, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I could be wrong but i think there was a study and it found that Hanson was one of the best nickel corners in the nfl.
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by Clint Eastwood on May 26, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
Ask any NFL scout and they will tell you Hanson is solid.
"The positions I played, every play, I was making contact, not like that … Deion Sanders. He couldn’t tackle my wife. He’s back there dancing out there instead of hitting." -Chuck Bednarik
by MidwesternEaglesfan on May 26, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes he is but....
I think he might have hit his stride and alot of young guys coming to challenge that could take that spot given the chance. I like all opinions though.. Always good to have a nice debate on here. lol lind will challenge and I think with the most to prove,, Avant, he came in with prob t top 3 best hands in the league and dropped some easy catches throughout the season., this guy will not do that again this year,, he has in my opinion the best hands in football,, and he kicks himself for the drops,, watch him blow up this year
Not really... He was up there because he barely made the quota of targets.
and his production honestly was more a product of him going against Slot WR’s rather than his “amazing play”…
I believe he was the ONLY slot CB on that list.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
I personally don't like Hanson.
I feel he’s paid to much to be just a slot guy..
Lindley should be the slot man (if we get a Vet at RCB) because he’s younger and has way more upside.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
I think Marsh looks like a good candidate for 5th CB or Redshirt lol.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Awwww man really
The guy breaks up a ton of passes, He is durable and could really benefit from coaching at the NFL level more then I think a lot of players. He is still fairly “New” to the CB position and has not had a chance to develop the bad habits and has improved his numbers every year. I happen to like him on the team but we will see… lol Redshirt your a jerk lol
by Two Nickels on May 31, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Marsh's potential,
but with a TC and stuff possibly being cut short I could see us redshirting him letting him learn the system then teach him the reigns next season..
I’d rather us keep a guy like Patterson who know’s the system, knowing our injury history and the probability of him playing than keep Marsh on the roster.. So it’d be smart to redshirt then keep the Vet this time around.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
I do see your point
but that was pat of the reason why I think we keep Marsh active. RCB is a huge question mark at this time as is if Q is going to be with the team still. So your boy TLin might see a very decent amount of time (because of all the injury question marks) since he would be a year two player. I agree with keeping Patterson totally, but he might see a good amount of time as a starter if some one goes down also. One thing that makes next year interesting(yeah if there is one blah blah blah) is that so many people are coming back from injury on all phases of D.
Why people were left off
Rookies are a no-brainer. If your an early round draft pick you have to prove your worth it and if your a late round draft pick you have to first prove you deserve to make the team. Rookies are too obvious. I left off last year’s runner up to the MVP because he doesn’t have anything to prove to most of the sports nation. We Philly fans demand a Superbowl so until any QB does that for us they always have something to prove. Guys like Ernie Sims, Victor Abr- he’s been hurt so long I can’t even remember his last name, Ingram, and Harrison, these guys probably won’t be a part of this team during pre-season so they won’t get the chance to prove themselves.
"The positions I played, every play, I was making contact, not like that … Deion Sanders. He couldn’t tackle my wife. He’s back there dancing out there instead of hitting." -Chuck Bednarik
by MidwesternEaglesfan on May 26, 2011 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
I think Vick proved enough last year other than leading the eagles to a superbowl win. What about his play last year would suggest it was a fluke? I just don’t see that.
by PhilsForever on May 26, 2011 8:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Look at the Vikings game when he couldn't do anything,
all but 7 minutes of that Giants game, and the Playoff game he couldn’t do much..
He needs to prove he can continue to play at such a high level, and that he can stay healthy.. and that he can read blitz’s better because to be honest that part of his game was shit towards the end of the year.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
WE
You also have to take into account that he was a bit worn down. He got punished throughout the season and you damn straight hearing footsteps skews your ability to read blitzes a bit. Better line I think you see a better Vick. Also High level is a bit of an understatement he was playing out of this world, and for a while the best player in pads in the NFL; not bad for a guy who was not our projected starting QB when the year started.
I really
Have taken that into account..
I agree a better line = a better Vick, however DB’s aren’t the OL’s problem if they cannot see them, Vick’s responsibility is to point that the DB is coming and let the OL adjust, I never saw that when the Giants brough Rolle, when the Vikings brought Winfield and when the Packers brought Woodson… Point is that he relied on his ability to improvise more than reading the blitz when it came to those DB’s coming.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Point taken but...
Giants were playing good D at that time as were the Pack. The Vikings game was a bit of a head scratcher so… your guess is a good as mine. Vick is not the biggest QB and I cannot remember where but usually needs the ball back a bit further from the LOS which gives the blitz more time to get to you. I do agree though his field vision pre-snap could use some work
You also have to believe that the team as a whole played like shit in those games. Also when we are being blazed that much the coaches should also be changing things up a bit. EVERYONE knew teams were gonna be blitzing, but we didn’t change a thing. Why was Celek running routes instead of blocking. How much worse was the o line at the end of the year. How many touchdown were dropped? Vick’s improvement relies heavily on other positions improving also.
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by EaglesandRavensFan on May 27, 2011 7:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
While I agree that Vick's improvement relies on other positions improving..
I have to say Celek didn’t have the chance to run as many routes as he did in 09 because he was being kept back to block, he became more of a blocker than a pass catcher this year..
And I’m sorry, the issues came when the DB’s were coming, EVERYONE could see it, Winfield would walk up about 5-8 yards outside of the OT and show blitz. Rolle did it, and so did Woodson. You cannot expect the Center who makes the line calls to see a guy who’s probably 10-15 yards in either direction walking up and showing blitz, that’s something Vick must be aware of and let the center know..
Also you can’t really blame the OL, McGlynn was our 2nd string Center, Peters was hurt but came back, MJG and Nick Cole couldn’t keep the RG job secured, Justice was solid till he hurt his knee… Also you forget the times when the OL gave Vick 6+ seconds the throw.. Everybody seems to focus on the bad. (little rant) I’m tired of everything being pawned off on the OL.
I’m not knocking Vick, everyone’s wowed by what he did, I am too.. I just saw some things at the end of the year that leave me with some questions.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Vick figured out?
I disagree with this notion, we started off slow in a couple games last year, but we do that all the time. Team make gameplans specifically to stop us and we adjust to that. He was brilliant in the 2nd half againist the Pack until that final pass, which was a good play just a tad bit underthrown. Every player has to prove themselves in the NFL every single year, it’s a what have you dont for me lately type of league. This is just a list of the 10 guys with the most to prove.
"The positions I played, every play, I was making contact, not like that … Deion Sanders. He couldn’t tackle my wife. He’s back there dancing out there instead of hitting." -Chuck Bednarik
by MidwesternEaglesfan on May 26, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
The figured out thing bugs me too ...
… Better defenses played better against him. He ate up teams that sucked.
The Vikings game was the anomaly, but that’s a talented defense. And there’s no shame in having problems scoring against the Packers, Giants, Bears or Colts.
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I honestly would put LeSean McCoy out there, he’s treated around the league as a good back…. He’s closer to a superstar. Honestly might be better than Westy was this year and that is obscene. It is utterly terrifying how easily Andy replaced the best RB in our franchise history with another stud.
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How long was Marlin Jackson's contract?
I thought it was only a year. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’d say the Eagles don’t resign him with the safeties we have at this point, although if hes super cheap, I wouldn’t mind having a veteran chilling on the roster.
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