Why Would The Eagles Want Plaxico Burress?
by JasonB on May 24, 2011 12:43 PM EDT
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PrintLike everyone, I read the story in the New York Post claiming the Eagles would be "first in line" to sign Plaxico Burress once he gets out of jail. The writer claims that "he's heard" the Eagles would be interested, but offers very little in terms of corroboration aside from the circumstantial type that seems to be driving this whole story.
You see, the Eagles once signed a player straight out of prison and it worked out well. Somehow, doing this once has led everyone to assume that this will be a trend for the Eagles and they'll be interested in every convict or malcontent in the NFL. Never mind that their 2011 draft class was filled with the squeakiest clean, high character guys available. They literally picked a choir boy.
They also are rumored to have interest in Nnamdi Asomugha, who is widely seen as one of the most charitable and high character guys in the game.
But because the Eagles signed Michael Vick, they must be interested in Plaxico Burress right? That's hard to see. First, let's see why they might want him and I don't think the fact that he's a reclamation project and the Eagles are some kind of charity is one. Michael Vick was a special case, not a rule.
He's an Eagle killer for one. The Giants haven't beat the Eagles since Burress was sent away. The Eagles always struggled with his size, particularly Sheldon Brown. That size is certainly something that the Eagles might have interest in as well. At 6-5 he would provide a big red zone target that the team doesn't have.
But the reasons why they might not have interest are a lot more compelling. For one, he's going to be 34. That might not be too old for a guy like Terrell Owens, who is a workout freak, but Burress was declining even before he went to prison. Then of course, the Eagles don't really have a need at WR. They've already got arguably the best young pair of starters the in the game. Jason Avant is a solid #3. They've got a promising young guy with size in Riley Cooper... There's no doubt that a guy like Burress in his prime would still be valuable here, but it's just tough to see where he'd fit at this moment.
Burress did something very stupid and dangerous but he paid dearly for it. If he can still play, he deserves another shot at the NFL... If prison does for him what it did for Michael Vick, that could be a great thing for his life, but I just don't see the reason why the Eagles would be the team "first in line" to sign him up.
That said, Michael Vick could see him in green.
"I think with the guys we have now, I think we can fit him in and we can make it work," Vick told WIP. "Obviously the ultimate goal at the end of the day is to put that ring on your finger at the end of the year."
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There are only 2 reason why the FO would sign Plax:
1) To keep him away from our NFC East rivals, and
2) To drive the members of Bleeding Green Nation insane.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
would make me happy
if we got him for cheap
Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.
"The way I figure it, if my heads gonna pop off it's gonna pop off anyways" - Ellis Hobbs on the possibility of his neck breaking.
by MightyJoeBanner on May 25, 2011 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Outside of him being a RZ target
Not sure why the Eagles wold go after him… they already have a very talented WR group, a rather young one that should not have a place taken up by a 34 year old leg blaster.
Because he’s probably not worse than Chad Hall, would likely be one of our best RZ targets, and would come for a big bargain.
"There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
by alcatraz0109 on May 24, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If he is willing to be a 20-25 receptions, 5-10 plays a game WR next year, then he is a value. Otherwise, he is taking a roster spot that could go to grooming a very good WR that is 23 and can play for the Eagles for a long time.
I won’t even get into his attitude issues of the past, which make the above scenario not look too likely.
I highly doubt Michael Vick would every say anything bad about a player that is leaving prison and coming back to football.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"Yeah, I like to hit people"
-Brandon Graham
I think Vick has learned enough (probably from McNabb) about managing Public Relations and would never say anything bad about anyone.
by thePurpleLion on May 24, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
if the price is right, i’d sign just about anyone of this guy’s former caliber, you never know what’s left in the tank. see mike vick, mike williams for reference.
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Bradshaw was a pretty good caliber, and we need a backup QB
I would like to thank my hands for being so great, for allowing me to type this post.
by corn on the kolb on May 24, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Paraphrasing, but you can pull it up…
Andy Reid has said that he is big into 2nd chances, and if any player deserves a 2nd chance, that the Eagles want to be that team to do so.
Not saying they will or should sign Plaxico Burress, but just pointing out that this isn’t unlikely or even far-fetched or outrageous like others think.
“Michael Vick was a special case, not a rule " (sorry, havent figured out the block quote thing yet)
I worry that his outlook is much different than that of Vick. Burress also doesnt have a Tony Dungy-like sponsor to vouch for his character.
With the whole gun at a night club thing, and shooting himself in the leg, I am leaning to group him with Pacman and not so much Vick.
Here’s a question that I think I already know the answer to but will ask anyway. If Reggie Bush becomes available who would you rather have Bush or Plax?
If I were the eagles
take Plax. Not sure about your WR depth, but looks like you guys could use a really tall, big target rather than a poor man’s Lesean McCoy clone. Plus you likely have to give Bush more $$$$ than Plax.
David Wright played a month with an undiagnosed broken back. I'm pretty sure it was the shitstain of an organization that did it, too.
Thank you, Fred Wilpon, for making my favorite team the laughing stock of the league. You are a disgrace.
by BigBlueIntervention on May 24, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You comment on our blog on a regular basis ….and you’re
Not sure about your WR depth
??? Shit like that will get you booted out lol
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I should clarify haha
I’m not sure as to the confidence level in your taller receivers. Maclin and Avant are 6’0-6’1….Desean is below that, as is Chad Hall. Riley Cooper is 6’3, but idk if you have that, ya know, huge 6’5 guy that uses his size to his advantage….
…haven’t seen enough of Cooper to reliably say that he’s that type of receiver. Plax would add, if nothing else, a diverse skill set to your offense which is obviously a good thing.
David Wright played a month with an undiagnosed broken back. I'm pretty sure it was the shitstain of an organization that did it, too.
Thank you, Fred Wilpon, for making my favorite team the laughing stock of the league. You are a disgrace.
by BigBlueIntervention on May 24, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
the Eagles don't have a big tall WR
but I would rather take a chance on a UDFA or Cooper turning into that guy then take the chance on a 34 year old Plax
haven't seen enough of Cooper?
Humph that’s funny. If you listen to people on here he is a budding all pro! oh btw he only caught 7 passes last year. Probably bc he’s not good enough to get on the field.
Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.
"The way I figure it, if my heads gonna pop off it's gonna pop off anyways" - Ellis Hobbs on the possibility of his neck breaking.
by MightyJoeBanner on May 25, 2011 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure about your WR depth,
The only thing i am still unsure about in our WR depth is Cooper. Other than that, our top three are great.
by thePurpleLion on May 24, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
And none of those top 3 can go up and get a ball like Plaxico.
"If they bring in a cardboard cutout of Nicholas Cage to replace McD, I’d be fine with it as long as it can get this D to execute." - McNabb2Maclin4Philly
by begforme4484 on May 24, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Bush ...
- Clean Reputation
- Would understand his back-up role mentality better
- We have less depth at RB
- I would guess him to be just as injury prone as an out of shape 34yr old.
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- Wont shoot himself in the leg!
by thePurpleLion on May 24, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
good thing
you don’t make any decisions bud. You haven’t evaluated his talent. Do you make all of your decisions w/o researching it through?
Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.
"The way I figure it, if my heads gonna pop off it's gonna pop off anyways" - Ellis Hobbs on the possibility of his neck breaking.
by MightyJoeBanner on May 25, 2011 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions
If money weren’t an issue, I’d take Bush easily. But I think Burress would be more cost-efficient, whereas Bush would likely be very overpaid.
"There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
by alcatraz0109 on May 24, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
please STOP!!
Stop with the “idk where he fits in” crap and the “we dont need him” bs. Did Vick fit in right away? no he was a 3rd string QB and missed the 1st 4 games from a suspension!!! Did we need Vick? HELLLLL NOO. We had our stud QB (who actually endorsed the move.. ) and we had our QB of the future in Kevin Kolb!! … HOWEVER I agree we cant speculate we are gonna sign him just becuase we signed VIck.. but we CANT say we arnt gonna sign him either just because we signed a player coming out of jail before!!! it goes both ways! The Eagles are the favorites to land Burress, OK!?!?!! Even If he dosent make an impact this season.. who cares? It was a win win with VIck and it is a WIn WIn now..
Best case scenario: Burress steps in DAY 1 and hasnt missed a beat and we have 3 potential pro-bowl WR’s….. (sounds pretty good to me)
WORST Case scenario: Burress shoots himself again and we have 2 potential probowl Wr’s… (sounds good to me)
SO PLEEEEEASE STOP with the negative comments!!! We’ve learned by now that these moves are low risk High reward moves!!
Let's go EAGLES!!!
someone didnt take their happy pills today ...
GEEZUS, who shit in your Cheerios this morning!
by thePurpleLion on May 24, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
There is way too much punctuation and bolding in there ...
… but he makes a decent point.
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
oh and btw
Burress has no other legal records or any other charges or run-ins with the law besides the gun incident. so yea enough with the racial stereotypes and get ur facts straight !!
Let's go EAGLES!!!
Calm down. I haven’t seen anyone mention anything about his race. Frankly, his race has nothing to do with anything.
by 92-74-99-96 on May 24, 2011 4:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
stop your pissing
nobody said anything at all about race or antthing close to that. And why do you think that the Eagles are the favorite to sign him? Did you just get that from the article or do you know? So shut the hell up and stop ranting and raving all over the place.
Please go away and stop thinking you know everything and that everyone is hating. Nobody is hating they are just saying their opinion about the Burress situation.
And Burress may not have any other run ins with the law, but he is a cancer in the locker room and bitches a lot about not getting his touches or his money, etc. That’s what happend in Pittsburgh and he wasn’t a great teammate in NY either.
Stop thinking you know it all.
He doesn't have any other record...
…however he has been labeled a locker room cancer in both Pittsburgh and New York. That means something and lots of times gets lumped in with off the field issues.
I-C-Y-U-H8-ME
race?
what like run down the street? I’ll race you. I mean can you even run with the boulder you carry on your shoulders? How long are your imaginary chains?
Cmon man this is professional sports not Wall street.
Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.
"The way I figure it, if my heads gonna pop off it's gonna pop off anyways" - Ellis Hobbs on the possibility of his neck breaking.
by MightyJoeBanner on May 25, 2011 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't want anything to do with him.
"A true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights and fights and then fights some more, because surrender is death, and death is for pussies." - Kenny Fuckin Powers
When bargain-hunting ...
… taking a guy who already has a strike or two seems to me to be a way you’d get a guy who damn sure isn’t going to have a strike three, especially if he’s 33 and on what could be his last chance.
T.O. cut out the locker room cancer stuff when he was on thin ice, for example …
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
We definitely "don't" have solid receivers! Plax would "with no doubt" be an upgrade
Our biggest problem was that we didn’t have any receivers to catch those short passes over the middle that move the chains. No one had that “beast mode” catch it regardless of being hit mantality. I saw Desean Jackson not even try to catch balls when he knew he would be hit. Once desean got hurt, we didn’t seemed so stacked up as we thought we were. Think of it like this. We already have seen games where teams shut down Deseans deep threat and keep Vick in the pocket (see bears game). Well what do you do now when Maclin, Jackson, and Plaxico are lined up? Plus Vick can take off for a 15 yrd run at will. How would you defend that? Plax will be going up against the 3rd corner!!!! I don’t think any team will think Plax can easily be shut down. Now factor in how cheap he would come and add the fact we have Mccoyy who can also run routes!
Offensive Coordinator...
Not the players going up the middle or taking the short catch. I have been frustrated watching our games because there is no one getting the quick check down pass or dump pass. Don’t blame the player for not running a route the play did not call for. When McCoy is sitting waiting for the short pass he does not get it especially when the play down field is still developing. Plax will change our game plan very little. I for one would like to see Albert or a Tall LB (they don’t fit our system either).
by Dr Phil E Fan on May 24, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Kolb
Lit up the #1 Seed in the NFC with DeSean gone in the first Quarter
Avant catches over the middle or on the edge, apparently everywhere but wide open in the endzone.
Cooper has had a year to adjust to the NFL and could very well blossom into a solid WR so our depth is fine
by CSJones on May 24, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you mean the falcons when you say # 1 seed?
Because Jackson scored the 1st touchdown on the opening possession in that game on a reverse run play with 12 minutes left in the 1st quarter. Jackson also caught a TD pass in the 1st quarter 6 minutes after his 1st TD.
Kolb also threw the ball to Desean on a cross route which got him smacked into the concussion.. Which is exactly why I say we need a receiver like Plax. I like our receivers but from a defensive standpoint you would almost be certain that teams will almost never leave desean in single coverage with any corner in the league. If desean is out. our receivers go from a 9.9 rating to a low 7. And the whole defensive scheme will change. (no need for 2 deep safetys) which makes it easier to blitz and still cover. But who knows.. Plax may be terrible now.. But just think about this.. A 75% plax is still better than most # 2 receivers in the nfl
Just think.. If Avant caught the game winning TD pass..
If we beat the LOLskins and the Vikings like we were supposed to.. We could have actually tried to win that last Cowboys game and went 14-2.. We should have also beat the titans. We could have easily went 15-1
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