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Just in case there was any doubt that the Browns were out of the Kevin Kolb race, the Cleveland Plain Dealer has reported that a deal between the two teams won't be happening. So much for Tom Heckert offering up those two first round picks.

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smokescreen?

by The Legend on May 21, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Could be

But the Cardinals are so far out in front in this race, it’s not even funny.

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by Bob_Q on May 21, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Did you see the article on CBS yesterday that claimed there was “chatter” that a deal was “already in place” that consisted of Kolb for Peterson AND a 2012 2nd rounder?

Peterson AND a 2012 2nd rounder? I would love to know how much weed this guy smoked before he put that out there. I love the Eagles and hold Kolb in high regard, and even I would have trouble arguing that Kolb would bring back that kind of haul.

by The Reddgie on May 21, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can’t even trade Peterson until he’s signed. And to sign him you have to pay a signing bonus. You really think that cheap ass team would do something like this then also sign Kolb to an extension? It doesn’t even remotely make sense.

by cin7 on May 21, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure the Eagles could include cash in the deal to the Cardinals which would pay for the singing bonus.

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by EREX21 on May 21, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t find any previous deals that involved cash for NFL players, got a source or example?

by cin7 on May 21, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not off the top of my head but I am pretty sure I have seen cash considerations as part of a trade, usually to match up salaries.

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by EREX21 on May 21, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, when Gruden went from the Raiders to the Bucs, the Bucs sent money to the Raiders as part of the trade. Gruden was under contract for one more year with the Raiders I believe at the time of the trade. So it can happen. At least, under that CBA, who knows what the case will be going forward.

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by EREX21 on May 21, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to be clear, this is not my opinion, I was referencing an article I read.

Regardless of all other issues, I don’t think AZ would trade Peterson straight up for Kolb.

by The Reddgie on May 21, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny, when I read that I immediately thought it was with the Vikings and Adrian Peterson. That really had me scratching my head. Thank God you said AZ.

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by David_K on May 21, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Been saying the Browns should stick with McCoy and help him out instead of trading for Kolb. Good for the Browns.

Now… Cardinals, first rounder, plz.

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by Imp on May 21, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe it is the right call to stick with the young guy they have, but Heckert couldn’t have let some rumors swirl and help his old buddies make sure the price doesn’t fall? How would it have hurt for the team to allow a “Sheldon Brown says that Kolb is an excellent leader” or a “Heckert claims Kolb pick was one of his best in Philly” story leak out over the next few weeks?

by ATG. on May 21, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Clevelan Plain Dealer

knows as much as any of the Philly reporters or papers. Unless its a direct quote from the FO I don’t even listen.

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by MightyJoeBanner on May 21, 2011 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Not that you can really take what the FO says for anything but yeah I agree with you in principal.

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by EREX21 on May 21, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe the Plain-Dealer is a reputable source ...

… but I agree with you guys in principle in that nothing we hear now means jack. You can say you’re not trading for a guy and then trade for him with no consequences.

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by D3Keith on May 21, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

So it says a deal between the 2 teams wont be happening…..

Must be a 3 team trade.

I still see the Browns almost as likely as the Cards. I think that they placed themselves firmly in control over this situation. They want kolb? They get him. With the arsenol they have, no one else could compete.

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by GreenInBaltimore on May 21, 2011 5:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

These rumors gives me a :(

but good for your FO for taking advantage of this QB starved situation to get the most out of other teams.

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by BigBlueIntervention on May 21, 2011 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

This is amazing.

The market for Kolb is unbelievable. It seems as if it wil set a precedent. becauser he is NOT worth what is being reportedly offerted for him. More power to ya eagles…

Just get it done already...

by tommy d. on May 21, 2011 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

why would Cleveland

Want to be out of the bottom half of their division anyway?
 
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by corn on the kolb on May 21, 2011 9:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He's going to Az next yr

Cuz nobody is playing this yr.

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on May 21, 2011 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Never thought Cleveland...

…would give up both 1s anyway but thought the acquisition of one of them meant they had to consider using one of them if they didn’t believe in McCoy. That being said, I don’t think Kolb is a clear upgrade over McCoy so, at least from their perspective, its a smart move for them not to make.

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by Qwest on May 21, 2011 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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