More Reporters Than Teammates Show Up To Eli Manning's Camp

yea it was fucking awful

Woah, woah, woah. That is not what I asked.

1.) You envy someone elses ability to mutilate puppies? So you desire to do that, but dont have the balls? Thats a pretty scary thing to envy. Just saying.
2.) Eli is a champion. But to say that there are only 2 sure-fire QB’s you would take over him is just stupid. Even Vick would be listed above him, despite your feelings for him.

Yea it was almost like the giants were puppies and Vick went back to his bad habbits that day

Now that was funny.

Hey how many INT’s do you think Eli threw at practice today with no defenders?

hahaha even a post on your own site has the Eagles WR core ranked above the Giants…

I was leaning towards self-imposed eugenics. You don’t want to pass on that sort of mental illness.

Well… Since you asked.

Steve Smith is a glorified dump off option. He has no skill after the catch and he isn’t explosive down the field. In terms of talent, Jason Avant is his superior. In terms of usage and statistics, Steve Smith is superior. When you extrapolate Jason Avant’s numbers based on Steve Smith’s target numbers you would see that Jason Avant, if used as much as Steve Smith would match and probably exceed the numbers that Smith puts up.

Despite the fact that Steve Smith only played in 9 games he still racked up 75 targets. That is 8.3 targets per game. Jason Avant played in 16 games and got 75 targets. Compare their numbers (and keep in mind that Jason Avant was probably the #4 option in the offense):

Steve Smith: 57 receptions, 529 yards, 3 TDs, 2.4 YAC
Jason Avant: 51 receptions, 573 yards, 1 TD, 3.8 YAC

And just to prove that this wasn’t some one year thing, look at 2009 the last healthy season Steve Smith put together.

In 2009 Steve Smith had 157 targets, Jason Avant had 58. I’ll extrapolate the numbers for this. If Jason Avant had gotten 157 targets his numbers would’ve looked like this:
111 catches, 1,587 yards and 8 touchdowns

Compare that to Steve Smtih’s numbers on 157 targets:
107 catches, 1220 yards and 7 touchdowns

Jason Avant is bigger, stronger, better after the catch, has better hands and a more powerful athlete.

Jason Avant is more talented than Steve Smith and it shows when Jason Avant gets the ball. Jason Avant is a better receiver than Steve Smith.

it’ll probably be calling the giants name after week 17 this year too…

I’m not talking stats. A statistical argument clearly favors Smith. I’m saying that in terms of skill, Avant is equal to if not better than Steve Smith. Steve Smith is the most overrated receiver in the NFL, he is an over glorified dump off player who isn’t a game breaker and he does little to nothing after he gets the ball. He is so overrated it’s ridiculous.

And I’ll get right on that. In terms of skill, Maclin and Nicks are equal. It’s simple really. They’re nearly identical as players.

Steve Smith is a glorified dump off option. He has no skill after the catch and he isn’t explosive down the field. In terms of talent, Jason Avant is his superior. In terms of usage and statistics, Steve Smith is superior. When you extrapolate Jason Avant’s numbers based on Steve Smith’s target numbers you would see that Jason Avant, if used as much as Steve Smith would match and probably exceed the numbers that Smith puts up.

Despite the fact that Steve Smith only played in 9 games he still racked up 75 targets. That is 8.3 targets per game. Jason Avant played in 16 games and got 75 targets. Compare their numbers (and keep in mind that Jason Avant was probably the #4 option in the offense):

Steve Smith: 57 receptions, 529 yards, 3 TDs, 2.4 YAC
Jason Avant: 51 receptions, 573 yards, 1 TD, 3.8 YAC

And just to prove that this wasn’t some one year thing, look at 2009 the last healthy season Steve Smith put together.

In 2009 Steve Smith had 157 targets, Jason Avant had 58. I’ll extrapolate the numbers for this. If Jason Avant had gotten 157 targets his numbers would’ve looked like this:
111 catches, 1,587 yards and 8 touchdowns

Compare that to Steve Smtih’s numbers on 157 targets:
107 catches, 1220 yards and 7 touchdowns

Jason Avant is bigger, stronger, better after the catch, has better hands and a more powerful athlete.

Jason Avant is more talented than Steve Smith and it shows when Jason Avant gets the ball. Jason Avant is a better receiver than Steve Smith.

Hakeem Nicks did play 2 more games (Mac played 1 drive in the Cowboys game) but he still had 13 more targets. They’re nearly identical.

Maclin caught 61% of passed thrown his way. Nicks caught 62% of passes thrown his way.
Maclin averaged 4 yards after the catch. Nicks averaged 3.9 yards after the catch.
Maclin averaged 13.8 yards per catch. Nicks averaged 13.3 yards per catch.

Nearly every single per and average statistic is identical and when you extrapolate the target numbers for either player their numbers are nearly identical.

Also keep in mind that Nicks is playing on a team where the second best option is Mario Manningham, the rest of the players are either stat whore players who aren’t as good in reality (Smith) or mediocre in the passing game (or at least in comparison to the players on the Eagles). Jeremy Maclin is the #2 option on an offense where there is DeSean Jackson, Jason Avant, LeSean McCoy, Brent Celek and Mike Vick’s running ability.

I admit I wagoned ball teams this season, but I didn’t just become a Heat fan.

i’d still prfere nicks intangibles to djax’s speed and agility (and pertsonality). but i would love to have what he brings to the table

When Eli goes to get herpes treatment under the nickname Roy Paraguay, than you can compare. When Eli get’s busted for running a gambling ring across state lines based on a bloodsport involving the torutre of defenseless animals, let me know.

I don’t need to pray that Eli sucks. He does.

The stats point to Romo.

And they would say the Giants won the SB because of defense. Not Eli and the offense.

Plus Wild Card games are playoff games. You’re on crack if you think otherwise.