Todd McShay's Latest Mock Draft Is Terrible For Eagles

by JasonB on Apr 6, 2011 3:00 PM EDT in Philadelphia Eagles News

On the same day Mel Kiper unleashed his latest mock draft, Todd McShay did one as well, and for the Eagles...it's ugly.

The two ESPN draft gurus agree on the position the Eagles take in round one, but they differ on the player. As we discussed earlier, Kiper has them taking Gabe Carimi. McShay, on the other hand, has them reaching for Derek Sherrod from Mississippi St.

I struggled with this pick more than any other in the first round, having a hard time finding a player who fit Philadelphia's needs and was worthy of the pick. In the end, guard and tackle are priorities and Sherrod has the versatility to contribute at both positions. He's not explosive or dominant and is a bit of a reach here but Sherrod consistently gets into position and rarely makes mistakes, and recent off-field issues for current OT Jason Peters could increase the urgency to address the offensive line. The Eagles could also consider the top available cornerbacks here but all come with questions.

I agree with McShay on one thing, he did struggle with this pick. More after the jump...

This is a pretty awful explanation and pick from McShay. Let's first take a minute to laugh hysterically at his suggestion that Jason Peters' noise pollution incident changes the Eagles draft plans in any way... Then how about his assertion that Sherrod is "not explosive or dominant and is a bit of a reach here." He really is a reach. Sherrod should be a second round type player. With Miami CB Brandon Harris and Colorado CB Jimmy Smith all still on the board, reaching for an offensive lineman in a draft pretty deep in the position would be terrible.

McShay then has the Eagles reaching for Illinois LB Martez Wilson in the second round and making an ok pick of Buffalo corner Josh Thomas in the third.

Ouch...

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Let’s first take a minute to laugh hysterically at his suggestion that Jason Peters’ noise pollution incident changes the Eagles draft plans in any way.

Apparently, Andy Reid is the Reverend/dad from Footloose.

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by JimmyK on Apr 6, 2011 3:06 PM EDT reply actions

Kick off your Sunday shoes, Jimmy!

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by DSmith215 on Apr 6, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions

the scene in the train yard is the best!!

by Stuk on Apr 6, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks, now I can hear all the songs from that movie. Haha…

by 92-74-99-96 on Apr 6, 2011 9:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

McShay is a bum

He can’t hold the grease Kiper uses in his hair.

It's even possible that Jim Tressel drinks out of the toilet

by jman07 on Apr 6, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions

Todd McShay ~~Latest Mock Draft~~ Is Terrible ~~For Eagles~~

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by Imp on Apr 6, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs

In fairness for the LB pick, as you’ve pointed out in your draft bust series, we do have a bit of a history of reaching for fast, undersized LBs in the second round.

I can’t find any justification for the OT reach though. Since when does AR reach for OTs? Justice was picked well below his projected draft position, what tackles have been picked high since Andrews (who was instantly moved to guard)? Tra Tomas?

by AZ Eagle on Apr 6, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions

Martez Wilson

is not undersized (6’4 250). I like the Martez pick alot to be honest. I do completely disagree with Sherrod in the first though.

I do think its funny that he has Bowers going 20 to the Bucs. I think its funny that during BGN’s mock draft people were getting “mocked” when Bowers fell to 8. Saying that no way he slides that far. Well, I actually think McShay got this right. Bowers will slide and I completely defended the fact that he did slide in our mock. Just goes to show that NOBODY KNOWS and its unfair to mock other people’s picks.

by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Apr 6, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm sorry

I must have had him confused with another player the Eagles have brought in to look at.

Thanks for the information.

by AZ Eagle on Apr 6, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions

No problem

Completely agree on the rest of your comment though. I’ve said this before, I do not think we are drafting a tackle in the first 3 rounds. If we do, he will be drafted to play RG. I think Andy trusts Winston and knows he was affected by his knee injury. I honestly see us taking CB, RG, DE with our first 3 picks (maybe not in that order).

by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Apr 6, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Agree on Wilson

He would look great wearing an Eagles jersey. In fact if we could get Jimmy Smith and Martez Wilson, that would be ideal in my mind.

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by SKOHR on Apr 28, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions

After 4 of these things, he probably just gave up and looked for something to generate comments.

by DLawrence55 on Apr 6, 2011 3:20 PM EDT reply actions

lol Todd McShay

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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Apr 6, 2011 3:24 PM EDT reply actions

I dont know about "reaching’ for Martez Wilson in the second round, he’s considered the top inside linebacker in this year’s draft and some mock drafts I’ve seen have him going in the first round. IMO that might be a steal to have mid-second.

by fhqwagads on Apr 6, 2011 3:30 PM EDT reply actions

Going by ESPN’s own grading system, he’s a 3rd round prospect.

I dunno, maybe I’m underrating him, but I can’t see him as a 4-3 MIKE in the NFL. Despite his gaudy 40 time, he doesn’t seem to have the speed.

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by JasonB on Apr 6, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions

He’s consistently popping up in the 2nd round, but I agree that it’s an unnatural fit for the Eagles.

These mocks are just too difficult to do for these guys. Their strength (or at least Kiper’s strength) is being able to spout a few bullet points on every prospect. But it’s just completely unrealistic to know all 32 teams inside and out. I know the Eagles, Giants, Cowboys and Redskins inside and out. That’s about it. While I don’t analyze the NFL as my profession, I do spend countless hours on it as a hobby… and there’s no way in hell I could ever pretend to know what a team like… say… Jacksonville likes to do offensively and defensively. There are only so many teams you can really have an intimate knowledge of before your work becomes extremely cookie cutter.

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by JimmyK on Apr 6, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree. I think the true die hard Eagles fans know the entire NFC East inside and out. I don’t know what the hell McShay was smoking or has been smoking the past couple of weeks.

There are so many linemen in this draft, why would we reach for one in the 1st round when corner is very weak in the draft this year. I say go with Jimmy Smith. OL in the 2nd round. JJ is back at center and McGlynn can slide over to RG while the rook is learning the playbook and scheme/technique. But then again, new OL coach so everyone will be learning new scheme/technique probably.

by Shady25 on Apr 6, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Martez Wilson

WIlson can really play Jason. He’s the top rated ILB prospect on most scouts big boards. At CBS Sports he’s 38 overall. There’s a possibility he could go late in the first round if a LB needy team likes his upside enough.
He’s got size 6’4" 250 AND freakish speed 4.42. He’s also not just a combine wonder as he has produced very well too (112 tackles, 11.5 tackles for loss, four sacks and three forced fumbles). He is good in coverage so with his size and speed he could also play any of the LB positions. If he hadn’t had the herniated disk in 2009 he might have been a top 20 pick but those types of injuries tend to scare teams off and get prospects rated lower.
I agree with you though that CB is a much bigger need but since when have the Eagles really drafted for need instead of just taking BPA? I think if Wilson is available for their 2nd Rounder it would be a great pick regardless of need. Plus, whenever free agency opens up we’re gonna sign Nnamdi anyway ;)
But back to the first round pick, before reaching for Sherrod in the first I do believe we’d take a chance on Harris or Smith at CB or else try to move down. Odds are the Eagles will not stay put so most mocks are pretty much useless anyway.

by brza37 on Apr 7, 2011 4:16 AM EDT up reply actions

As someone who does mock drafts, just for a lot less money, there comes a point in the mocking process where a team’s pick comes up and no one available really fits them. If we do get to the point in the real draft, we know Andy and Howie will trade the pick away for more picks later in the draft rather than reach on a future bust.

by MidwesternEaglesfan on Apr 6, 2011 3:34 PM EDT reply actions

Totally agree. If the guy or guys they want are off the board. They are out of that spot at 23. That’s how we roll.

by Shady25 on Apr 6, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Exactly.

They like to determine where the dropoff in value is. And if they reach that point, they’re out of there faster than Saban leaving Miami.

by 92-74-99-96 on Apr 6, 2011 9:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

At least this one is 10x more realistic being that it’s the Eagles and they always surprise. Let’s all hope to God this isn’t it though.

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by David_K on Apr 6, 2011 4:18 PM EDT reply actions

I actually wouldn't mind Sherrod, but I would mind him at #23. That just won't happen.

If the Eagles were going to take Sherrod, they would trade back to do it, not pick him in the first round.

by NOLACuse on Apr 6, 2011 6:21 PM EDT reply actions

trade down...

if we dont like anyone on the board who says we HAVE to pick. the eagles have made it clear they will trade down if they dont like anyone left on the board. Sherrod isnt terrible id like him later tho

Let's go EAGLES!!!

by DirtyBird7 on Apr 6, 2011 6:58 PM EDT reply actions

Mayock > Mcshay + Kiper

I only listen tot Mike Mayock on NFL Network. Mcshay n Kiper suck. they are all about the hype. than when a surprise pick happens they agree like they saw it coming… C’mon son!!

Let's go EAGLES!!!

by DirtyBird7 on Apr 6, 2011 7:00 PM EDT reply actions

I listen to Kiper only when he talks about players he think will go number 1 overall in future drafts

because he is usually right or close

Rivals beware

by starship 007 on Apr 6, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions

True Mayock is definitely the best. Kiper is good too but McShay doesn’t really have a good track record imo. It seems like he makes some questionable picks just to be different from Kiper. Then once it gets real close to draft time he aligns his draft with what Mayock has been posting all along.

by brza37 on Apr 7, 2011 4:20 AM EDT up reply actions