Your best-case/worst-case scenario for Round 1?
Okay, it's draft day, and I'm finally willing to accept there will be no free agency beforehand. As annoying as that might be, the Eagles are going to get better tonight in some way, shape or form. Aren't they?
Let's have a little fun with it and lay out your best-case scenario for Thursday night's first round, and your worst-case. I suppose if you were feeling frisky you could best-case/worst-case for Friday too, or the entire NFL draft. Your call.
My original best-case was to have them sign Nnamdi or Jonathan Joseph in free agency, then draft an RG at No. 23. That would have addressed our two biggest needs off the bat (and I think it's okay to draft for need when you have a super-bowl ready team and a prospect that can step in immediately) and left room to round out the roster (LBs, more OL and CB, and BPAs) in the rest of the draft.
Given that FA never came together, nor was a Kolb trade technically possible, my best-case scenario is now this: Eagles trade their 2012 first-rounder (knowing they can recoup one by trading Kolb, and it will likely be a higher pick if it's a non-playoff team that grabs him) for one tonight, giving them two picks, which they use to draft Peterson, Amukamara or (more realistically) Smith at corner, and use their No. 23 to trade back a few spots and pick up later picks, and grab whichever O-lineman they covet who falls (Carimi, Solder or whoever fits the Mudd mold).
I obsess over specific players a little less than most, so your best-case scenarios might well be more detailed than mine. That's cool, throw them out there.
While the Eagles trading back and not drafting anyone tonight might feel like a worst-case scenario, if they have a first-round grade on whichever player they draft in the second, and they still end up with players they believe are top talents, plus more picks, I'm fine with that. I think this is the year where it's time to profit from all that ammo they've stacked up over the years, but I won't nitpick. I'll be patient.
Worst-case for me is them burning up that ammo to move up and draft another D-lineman. Look, I know the better the pass rush the better your secondary looks, but I think we've got the horses on the DL and with Washburn here to coach them, an improvement is to be expected. My personal feeling is this is one of those times where the Eagles ought to just do the obvious and grab a CB and someone who could challenge to start at RG, and then go after top free agents at those spots later just so we're not completely dependent on rookies.
What are your best and worst scenarios?
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I want the Eagles to let the draft come to them
If the players that they like are gone at 23 then trade out. But if they trade out I want a first next year not an extra third or forth for this year. The draft just doesn’t seem that deep to me this year.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
BEST: Trade 23 for 48 and next years 1st
To the raiders.
Worst: Draft Gabe Carimi.
by Kyle Middleton on Apr 28, 2011 10:12 AM EDT reply actions
Worst: Draft Gabe Carimi.
I concur…
FLY #7 FLY !!!
by BWestFactor on Apr 28, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Gabe Carimi is a great offensive tackle,Outland trophy winner,would of been great pick up for us. Best oline men in this years class.
by PhilsNBirds on Apr 29, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Your short changing Carimi
Why Gabe Carimi. He is a great tackle and an instant upgrade I think over Justice. He plays with the physical toughness of Jon Runyan and is sneaky athletic. he is a solid technician. If you watch film on him you will see he handles his own very well against some of the top DE in college football, some going in the first round like Clayborn and Heyward. I think he will be a very solid player in this league with pro bowl potential. You could also plug him into RG at first if you want to give Justice one more shot.
by mlbsports23 on Apr 28, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Lets load up for next year nd hit FA hard when it comes
Yeah I don’t know about your 2012 draft pick logic as they can’t get a first round pick for the 2012 pick maybe a second round pick for 2012 but def not a first.
My best case is to trade back for a high second round pick and either a 2012 first or a 2012 second and a third or 4th this year most likely 4th. So to make that more clear a top ten second and 2012 first or a top ten second and forth this year and 2012 second. With this pick we can do so many different things as after the first 18-20 players in the draft the next 20 or so grade out very similar.
Also Trade Kolb once FA hits for a first rounder next year plus whatever we can get like a third with a conditional drop to a second if he makes the pro bowl or takes them to the playoffs or something.
The real coo here is getting a possible 2012 first rounder for our first rounder this year and the one from Kolb. Next years draft is stacked, plus with multiple first round picks we could always be in the running for the Andrew Luck Sweepstakes. (Vicks legs won’t last forever and he is said to be the best QB prospect for a very long time, Manning like, and future of the franchise for next 12 years possibly)
I still would like to see them go after a cornerback in FA like Nnamdi Asomugha or Johnathan Joseph (depending on his restriction) and or a right guard like Logan Mankins. That would free up our pick for whatever we wanted without feeling the pressure of getting a guy for our two biggest holes.
The worst possible situation is to trade up and waste picks for a DL that we don’t need. D3Kieth is right we do have some horses and with Washburn he could really do wonders with the talent we have. Some players who I think will surprise everyone this year are Sapp (added like ten pounds of muscle from what I hear and the wide nine tech. is perfect for his skills set), TLAWS (came into his own last year finally and got some good pressure on the QB, with Washburn chewing out his butt he should keep improving), and Bunk (still has not seemed to get “it” but Washburn might be able to get “it” out of him, he has tons of talent and strength).
If they take an Adrian Clayborn or a Brooks Reed I’m going to throw my shoe at the TV.
If your best case scenario happens...
I’d be so obsessed with mock drafts that I probably would never be able to get my work done when I’m on the computer from now till next years draft.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Apr 28, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Idk.
If Robert Quinn, or AJ Green/Julio Jones fell to the 23 spot and one of them was selected I’d be pretty damn happy.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Perfect Offseason Scenario
Draft the best OT/RG or DL available at 23.
Draft the best LB available in the 2nd.
Draft the best Safety or DL (or OL if not taken in 1st) available in the 3rd.
Give up a 2012 2nd or 3rd rounder for Janoris Jenkins in the Supplemental Draft.
Sign Nnamdi or another starting caliber veteran CB in FA.
Trade Kolb for 2012 1st rounder and conditional 3rd/4th.
Sign veteran backup QB.
Call it a day.
Let's fuckin pray for it.
This offseason plan would skyrocket Reid and Co. into history, and most likley send us to a few Superbowls.
by phillyfan330 on Apr 29, 2011 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions
The thing is
This offseason plan is completely feasible.
There isn’t anything I mentioned that would be a “stretch.”
Having said that… MY SCENARIO IS STILL ALIVE. We got the best RG available at 23. Now onto the next steps. Here’s to a good round 2 and 3.
BTW
we have 2 second rounders. Let’s hope for Ayers and Ras-I Dowling? Ras may be a reach but if we can snatch him up with NA in free agency we’re gonna have once sick group or corners. Plus the supplimental draft is coming up with that guy from Florida(forgot name sorry)
by phillyfan330 on Apr 29, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Smitty, you're doing well so far
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Best and a couple of worsts
Best: any one of the top three cb’s, Peterson, prince or smith. Worst: cam newton, Brandon Harris or not drafting for need. By this I mean drafting a dt or a de, when we clearly have real needs at other positions.
by Saidrick on Apr 28, 2011 12:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Here's my crack at it.
Best- Getting Peterson, Quinn, Carimi or Bowers.
Worst- Taking Solder, Pouncy or trading up and overspending on something stupid.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5

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