Another OL post I've been working on all day before a
I'm going to go through who I think will be where next year in this post.
As we all know we need to do something about our offensive line. I know how vital the OL is, this is a look at who we have for each position in house RIGHT NOW... As in no rookies coming in, no speculation on who we'll sign.. but at the end I'll say some thing about who'd I'd like, but I'll just leave it at that.
We'll start with the LT position.
Jason Peters- Jason no doubt will be our LT next season barring a surprise trade (which would be stupid) or some retards idea to move him to the RT position which would be completely unnatural for him. Peter's a probowler and blah blah blah.. You all know about him.
King Dunlap- King is one big guy. I honestly thought at times last season when he was on the field that he was the biggest guy out there, but he still seems to thin. Dunlap had a few good games in place of Justice and Peters throughout the year, he's what you want out of a backup OT who can swing both ways and be decent for a game or two. As of now, not a guy you want starting full time.
Next is the LG position.
Todd Herremans- Todd is a nasty player. I think some of us really don't give him enough credit. When he was out during the preseason our line looked like super ultra shit, with him we look bad-good depending on the week. He and Peters make that right side McCoy likes to run behind time and time again to close out a Cowboys game and kill the clock with 4 mins ago.
Backup? As of now we don't have a backup. The only other OG on the roster is Max, who hasn't signed his tender yet. So obviously theirs no B/U yet.
Now for the Center.
Mike McGlynn- Mike is the starter in my mind. He actually never played center until last offseason when he began snapping, so for him to play as well as he did actually amazes me, if he can go from OT and OG to playing center in about a 1/2 an offseason of work I can't wait to see what he can do with another offseason and preseason under his belt. I know McGlynn wasn't the best center, I know I'm going to take some flak for this but take a look at what he did, he was very good in the screen game, he didn't fuck up many snaps (I never saw him mess up at all actually, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen). He's our starting center going into next season, he had a solid year and got better as it went along, he needs to work on his blocking calls a little and recognizing the fronts, I think he can be elite if he gets those mental aspects down.
Jamaal Jackson- I don't think Jamaal is going to be here much longer. He's had what? 9-10 snaps in 2 years? His knee is untested, his triceps are fucked up.. He's messed up 2 essential components to an OLman (especially a center) in 2 consecutive years. I know we all love Jamaal, but he's over 30 (will be 31 or 32 this season) and has now been injured. Healthy players over 30 don't last here so I don't see how one who's been injured and over 30 does. I like Jamaal, but I think we go with the younger option and make Jamaal a backup or free agent.
Ugh, RG....
Max Jean-Gilles- Max is the only other OG on this team, and that's only if he signs his tender. Max is pretty much a "look out!" blocker. This means when Vick gets the snap, Max stands up, dusts the DLmans jersey off and turns to Vick and says "look out!"... He's an average backup at best, and can swing both sides. Our starter will most likely (hopefully) come via FA or the draft.
And now for the RT.
Winston Justice- I know you guys are all down on Justice. I see no reason to get rid of him, if we get an upgrade he's a better option than Dunlap and Howard as a backup. But as a starter he was actually doing pretty well till he hurt his knee last season, and that playoff game was bad, but honestly he was just getting back from a knee injury and sat 2-3 games. As the starter I'm ok with him, if we got an upgrade I'd feel better but i don't see why everybody wants him gone, even as a b/u he's valuable.
Austin Howard- The kid is big, and apparently he was good enough to go from undrafted to making the team. He had one game this season and went against Ware. Not enough knowledge on/from him to really make a decision, but if he keeps improving I think his ceiling is higher than Dunlaps so if we add a very good OT I think we keep Howard and go with Dunlap.
What OG's really appeal to wild_eagle?
Free Agents.
(1) Harvey Dahl- He's a nasty little man. Honestly he'd fit right in with Herremans and McGlynn. He gets after people and is slightly cheap. I watch Falcons games from time to time just to watch him. Yes, I mean what I say I will watch a Falcon's game when the Eagles aren't on to watch an OLman play. This is my first choice if the Eagles asked me who to go and get. (Note: I don't know if Dahl was tendered or an UFA)
(2) Davin Joseph- Joseph has been up and down as a player, last year he had a pretty good year till he got injured. I think he's pretty good, he's further down on my list but he's worth a look.
(3) Mike Gibson- He's started for Seattle the past few years, he's done a pretty good job there at LG. We drafted him once, he's worth bringing in, most likely the cheapest FA option out there.
Draft Prospects.
(1) Pouncey- I'm up and down with Pouncey, I'd like to have him but I'm not to sure he's really gonna be as good as everybody things.
(2) Watkins- He's 26 I know. But I think he's one who can step in right away and play at a level beyond what MJG can. That and I see probowl type talent in him.
(3) Hudson- This FSU boy in my opinion will the the best of the three listed here. That's my gut feeling. I like watching him play and he fits Mudds scheme pretty well ( I think better than Pouncey and Watkins)
(Note: I know that Howard played LT in that Cowboys game while Dunlap played RT. I put them in those positions because I didn't really care which side the backups were on because they can both play either side if needed)
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Some thoughts (IDK why I’m doing this numbers thing so much lately but whatever):
1. Winston Justice can play in traffic, kick rocks and/or pound sand. Get him away from the Eagles, he is a terrible pass protector and he is a terrible run blocker too, he is pretty much good for nothing. I think Max Jean-Gilles and Nick Cole are better guards than Justice is a tackle.
2. You called Harvey Dahl little lol
3. If King Dunlap isn’t one of the top five biggest players in the NFL then I am shocked. At 6’9", 330 pounds with 35.25" arms he is quite the physical specimen. Based on some of his performances this season I’d argue that he is better than Winston Justice. He shut down some good pass rushers and was better in the run game than Justice. Its all consistency issues with him because the 49ers beat him for 3 sacks and then the next week he shut down John Abraham. He gets better every season and I really want to see what Howard Mudd does with him.
4. I really don’t like Hudson for the Eagles. Personally I want to see Marcus Cannon as a OG prospect. I really really really really really believe the Eagles need a new RT, Winston Justice got our quarterbacks killed this past season. Give me Smith, Costanzo, Solder, Sherrod or Carimi as prospects PLEASE.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
right side of the line...
whether they draft Carimi,Costanzo or another tackle…….or they draft a Right guard like Cannon, Watkins…i hope they other position on the right side is filled by a Veteran…
If you draft a RT…go out and get a Dahl/Nicks/Joseph caliber RG…or draft a guy like Cannon/Watkins and go out and get a Cabo/Bushrod type veteran RT…I don’t know about anyone else, but that would comfort me a lot more then drafting two rookies RT/RG with our 1/2 and then seein if they can protect Vick better than Mcglynn or MJG/Justice….
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by greenbean#twoOH on Mar 4, 2011 3:25 AM EST up reply actions
then the next week he shut down John Abraham
While I agree that he had a good showing, there, I think part of that had to do with the Eagles using extra pieces (meaning bringing in a TE and/or RB to help chip) on him. I haven’t watched the film, so I don’t really know for sure, but I remember Lawlor talking about this after the game. King has certainly improved, but to say that he shut down Abraham 1 on 1 probably isn’t an accurate statement.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Mar 4, 2011 3:39 AM EST up reply actions
Also I remember Atlanta doing other things with Abraham than attacking King 1 on 1.
It seemed stupid of them at the time.
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stop blowing herremans .. he sucks ass .. he is nothign special .. he is equal to max .. they both are serviceable .. max has more potential ..
by jack is better than asante on Mar 6, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Max has 0 potential. He's fucking awful.
Herremans is the one who keeps on producing year after year.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Ok.
1. Winston Justice can play in traffic, kick rocks and/or pound sand. Get him away from the Eagles, he is a terrible pass protector and he is a terrible run blocker too, he is pretty much good for nothing. I think Max Jean-Gilles and Nick Cole are better guards than Justice is a tackle.
Justice isn’t that bad, you people just flip out over his last game.
2. You called Harvey Dahl little lol
LOL you got what I meant by that.
3. If King Dunlap isn’t one of the top five biggest players in the NFL then I am shocked. At 6’9", 330 pounds with 35.25" arms he is quite the physical specimen. Based on some of his performances this season I’d argue that he is better than Winston Justice. He shut down some good pass rushers and was better in the run game than Justice. Its all consistency issues with him because the 49ers beat him for 3 sacks and then the next week he shut down John Abraham. He gets better every season and I really want to see what Howard Mudd does with him.
I never said he was a top 5 biggest, I just said at any point when he’s on the field he LOOKS like the biggest. And yes I realize he played pretty well but Justice is better than Dunlap at this point.
4. I really don’t like Hudson for the Eagles. Personally I want to see Marcus Cannon as a OG prospect. I really really really really really believe the Eagles need a new RT, Winston Justice got our quarterbacks killed this past season. Give me Smith, Costanzo, Solder, Sherrod or Carimi as prospects PLEASE.
I did pure guards as my list of prospects, I would’ve put Carimi, Solder and Smith up there if I were listing OT’s.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Ah, I see on the guard prospect thing.
And I was agreeing with you about King Dunlap, I said I think he is one of the biggest players in the NFL, the guy is massive.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
Oh, lol
I saw that “I’d be shocked” statement about Dunlap as “If he’s one of the biggest I’d be shocked” lol.
I see we’re on the same page.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Only negative to your post...
Jackson only missed a year….He now has a full year of rehab on that ACL…even tho it wasn’t in games, and it will be good to see what he’ll look like year after rehabbing that arm for a year….I dont think he’s a problem at all at center when healthy, he’ll be 31…..He was the one that was protecting Mcnabb when he was setting the offensive records that Vick broke this year…Probably a little harder to keep Mcnabb clean than it was for Mcglynn to keep Vick up…Eagles seem to be okay at center if he’s not healthy w/ Mcglynn as a b/u…Just fix that RG spot and upgrade our RT draft or otherwise…
Don’t get me wrong, i think Mcglynn did a great job at center this year…only negative would be his lollipop shotgun snaps, and snapping before Vick was ready (although i think that was only a couple times, not know who’s fault it actually was)….
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
We'll a meant he had 2 season ending injuries,
and has now missed a lot of time..
Yeah I do remember McGlynn snapping it to soon a few times, but honestly that can be fixed.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
i agree with u about mcglynn
he isnt that bad at all and for someone who never played center before he stepped it up real big last year…… the only oline man i can remember screaming about last year were justice and dunlap……. so either mcglynn wasent that bad or i was just really distracted rofl
I screamed about McGlynn once or twice.
but he’s more positive than negative.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
joseph is better than dahl
the thing about the falcons line is that none of the lineman are actually that good individually. They only play well as a unit when they have all their starters in (which they usually do).
Todd actually didn’t have that great of a season. He let up more sacks than usual, got beat a lot, and commited way too many penalties. He is lucky he had Peters beastin at LT to disguise most of his flaws this year
Umm
No you’re wrong. Dahl is much better than Joseph, I can say that because Dahl is way more consistent than Joseph. And so what if he’s been playing on a unit that’s started every game together for 3 years straight, that means he stayed healthy, it shouldn’t be a knock on him.
I want to see the stats on your assumption on Herremans.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Your right
Joseph is not better then Dahl. Joseph is a run blocker plain and simple. Pass pro is weakest part of game and he is not consistent. I live in the Tampa area and hear ALL about the Bucs. Some like DJ and some dont. But the biggest thing with him is he gets pushed back into the pocket on pass plays ALL the time. Not sure if we would want that type of player when we drop back to throw 70% of time
by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Mar 4, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Ahh that's some good info thanks.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Correct me if I'm wrong
Next is the LG position.
Todd Herremans- Todd is a nasty player. I think some of us really don’t give him enough credit. When he was out during the preseason our line looked like super ultra shit, with him we look bad-good depending on the week. He and Peters make that right side McCoy likes to run behind time and time again to close out a Cowboys game and kill the clock with 4 mins ago.
I’m pretty sure they made up the left side. I’m not knocking your post I’m just saying. I dunno if anyone else caught that.
But anyway, good post, Wild.
I personally dont like Pouncey though and I think we should select Marcus Cannon from TCU and play him at RG. I think He would be a monster on the inside in the NFL. Also, one could only dream of getting Dahl. sigh
Ahh well my bad lol..
I mean it was a small mistake.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Was Carl Nicks tendered?
"If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent." - #5
"Or if the rest of the defense if even decent then
our two Rookie safety’s don’t have to go all Ed Reed-Palamolu-Dawkins-super sayan badass mode to help us win." - W_E
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.
Trade a first rounder for Carl Nicks plz. He is worth it.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
Why Winston Bustice sucks...
http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-giants/09000d5d802d9b18/Week-4-Osi-Umenyiora-highlights
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A: They are equally ineffective in the red zone.
Never can forget this game
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.
by Mr.electric10 on Mar 4, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Umm got anything recent?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Your Right About Justice
I swear people need to take a chilaxitive with this guy. If Howard Mudd can turn Jeff Saturday into a probowler, then I would love to see what he can do with Justice. Everyone go read about Jeff Saturday’s journey to the NFL if you don’t know what I’m talking about. Guy is 6’2 295 pounds, and that’s probably dripping wet, he went undrafed and Howard Mudd first saw him and didn’t think he was in the right place. Justice had the Giants Game we will never ever speak of again, and he was injured in the Green Bay game and got punked by one of the best edge rushers in the NFL, Matthews made a lot of higher regarded tackles look pathetic too this year. Great post, really enjoyed it.
Thanks bud,
and you understand what I’m getting at.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5

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