The Linc - Arizona Cardinals Most Interested In Kolb?

by JasonB on Mar 22, 2011 10:05 AM EDT in Philadelphia Eagles News

Source: Arizona expressing most interest in Kolb
According to Peter King of SI.com, one team is willing to offer a first-round pick for Kolb. A league source has told CSN's Derrick Gunn that a number of teams have made significant offers for Kolb. The source wouldn’t confirm or deny whether a first-round pick was offered. Another league source said that the Arizona Cardinals have expressed the most interest in Kolb.

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While Eagles president Joe Banner would not confirm the offer, he did say that there was a "more aggressive market" for the 26-year-old Kolb than there was for Donovan McNabb. The Eagles dealt McNabb to Washington last April for an early second-round pick and a 2011 fourth-round selection.

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Well the Cardinals might be interested in Kolb, but they’d be out of their minds to give up the fifth overall pick for him. Not that I’d complain.

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by jaws1385 on Mar 22, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions

Not really.

He’s a better bet than Newton or Gabbert. If they really think Kolb is a franchise QB and, more importantly, that he’s better than the other options, they should make the deal.

by Tracer Bullet on Mar 22, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions

Well all three are still unproven. And the Cards have some offensive line issues. Newton’s athleticism could help offset that, whereas Kolb could potentially struggle. I like Kolb a lot, and I’d love to get the five spot for him, but I’m just not sure he’s worth that high a pick, at least from Arizona’s point of view. Depends how desperate they are.

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by jaws1385 on Mar 22, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions

kolb isn't exactly unathletic

I remember him scrambling out of some bad situations when he did play for us. It was almost like he was trying to be Mike Vick at points haha. But really, he is somewhat elusive in the pocket, unless Clay Mathews is coming at him full speed from his blind side.

by phillyfan330 on Mar 22, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Ugh, bad news about Graham. Have to wonder if the team believes that DE is higher priority than we do.

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by JimmyK on Mar 22, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions

Read my “sixth option” idea on GreenInBaltimore’s “Different Business” post and tell me what you think, it might help with the Graham situation.

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by jaws1385 on Mar 22, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions

Well, they still have the other two guys they drafted last year. And Abiamiri I guess…

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by JasonB on Mar 22, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions

I would love to see what Sapp could do. I don’t know why but, I got a feeling about that kid.

by h2o_34_35_44 on Mar 22, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions

He will probably be on PUP to start the season and will be good to go after 6 games. Tapp/Parker/DTO/Sapp should be able to hold it down till then. We also have Washburn who’s going to make them “whoop ass”.

by Route36 on Mar 22, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions

If the 5th pick drops in our laps

HELLLOOOOO PRINCE AMAKAMURA

GET TO THE CHOPPAH

I don't know about the guy(s) upstairs, but I do believe in Welsh Jesus

VICK-VICK-VICK-VICKTORIOUS

by NJoverNY on Mar 22, 2011 10:19 AM EDT reply actions

5th might be high enough to get Peterson.

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by JimmyK on Mar 22, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions

But

HELLLOOOOO PRINCE AMAKAMURA just sounds great. Besides who doesn’t want a prince on our team?

GET TO THE CHOPPAH

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by NJoverNY on Mar 22, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions

I’d rather have a Prince than a King

If you don’t have an Eagles Point along with your critique of my post, then you won’t get a response back from me… I’m not wasting my energy on that anymore…
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by IowaEagle on Mar 22, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions

Well played.

by ATG. on Mar 22, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions

does him scoring a 6 or whatever on the Wonderlic

dissuade the Eagles from drafting him?

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Mar 22, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions

I think it’s a flag, but not the end-all. If a player scores that low, I think it merits more scrutiny when you actually sit down and talk with the kid, but no team is just gong to take him off their board because of a bad test score.

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by JimmyK on Mar 22, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm sorry, I didn't mean take him off the board, just drop him lower than top5/top10; put Prince above him...?

"This is one of the top 10 biggest bonehead trades in the history of the NFL."
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Mar 22, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Right, I actually didn’t mean to take it that far. I think that teams place more value on conversations they have with these guys. For example, when teams interview players, sometimes they’ll show them film and say “Tell me what you see here.” If the kid has a good football IQ, they don’t really care so much about a test score. But the bad test score might cause them to dig a little deeper in an interview process. In other words, it’s almost impossible to know how smart a team thinks a prospect is.

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by JimmyK on Mar 22, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions

If the Cards offer a first round pick, it could very well be in next years’ draft rather than the #5 this year.

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by JasonB on Mar 22, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions

In that case we should also demand either a 4th in this years or a 3rd/4th in next years

No way we let him go this year without getting assets in return this year

GET TO THE CHOPPAH

I don't know about the guy(s) upstairs, but I do believe in Welsh Jesus

VICK-VICK-VICK-VICKTORIOUS

by NJoverNY on Mar 22, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions

Well, if the Eagles definitely think they can get a first round pick, if it’s a first round next year they would probably want a 2nd this year too. 1st rounders next year are treated more like 2nds this year so two second rounders doesn’t seem like too hefty of a price.

by outsyderz34 on Mar 22, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions

I wouldn’t want that, if Kolb goes to the Cardinals and plays well then the pick could end up in the late teens or early twenties. No thanks unless they’re giving up a second round pick in this years draft.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Mar 22, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Graham may never amount to anything he could have been.

by h2o_34_35_44 on Mar 22, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions

neither will Shady after his Lasik...

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Mar 22, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Heard an interesting arguement on 610 this morning.....

Is Kolb better than Brandon Graham?
Is Kolb better than Jeremy Maclin?
Is Kolb better than Brodrick Bunkley?
Is Kolb better than Mike Patterson?
Is Kolb better than Shawn Andrews?
Is Kolb better than Jerome McDougle?
Is Kolb better than Lito Sheppard?
Is Kolb better than Freddie Mitchell?
The reason for the question is because those are our 1st round picks for the last 10 years. I can say no to about 3 with a give or take in there. I’m fine with trading him, but we’ve got to do something better than we’ve been doing to make the trade worth it.

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by SGTSteve on Mar 22, 2011 2:14 PM EDT reply actions

that list is a joke

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Mar 22, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Agreed

but those were our picks

by SGTSteve on Mar 22, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions

real good point

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by BWestFactor on Mar 22, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions

wow we fuckin fail

Now I see why we never drafted in the first round til 2 years ago. We missed on everybody. Freddie Mitchell was a first rounder? WTF?

by phillyfan330 on Mar 22, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions

everybody was an exaduration btw

before I get ripped, Shawn Andrews could have been great, Lito was somewhat solid,Bunkley and Patterson are OK, Maclin is the only true standout in this entire group. We don’t know enough about Graham yet to judge him.

by phillyfan330 on Mar 22, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

I hear ya...

I don’t know if “better” is the right word, since Kolb’s sample size is so small. I’d go with “more valuable.” It’s too early with Graham, and you can answer “no” only to Maclin and Andrews (when his head/back were right). For the rest, you can emphatically say yes. So I get the premise – #1 picks are no guarantee, especially with the Eagles’ spotty history of drafting guys in the first round.

But if you look at the draft going back to 1999 (the beginning of the AR era) to 2007 (and I use 2007 because it’s a year that will have given those players 4 years to mature into the players they are today), there isn’t a single year that a first round didn’t produce at least 10 Pro Bowlers:

2007 – 10
2006 – 13
2005 – 10
2004 – 15
2003 – 13
2002 – 10
2001 – 16
2000 – 13
1999 – 14

I think what 610 is saying is valid (and correct me if this wasn’t their point), in that the Eagles need to be careful about trading Kolb. And I might agree if the reality wasn’t that Kolb is in the final year of a contract and if you don’t trade him now, there’s a very good chance he walks for nothing. But I think a first round pick is far, far too valuable to pass up. Sure, the Eagles have whiffed in the past, but if you can add a guy that has roughly a 40% of eventually being a Pro Bowler (with a 20% shot at being a bona fide elite STAR), and at least a 75% at being a regular starter, I think it’s a no-brainer that you roll the dice a little. No risk, no gain. Gotta be aggressive.

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by JimmyK on Mar 22, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Also,

It is a good argument why some team should happily give us a first for Kolb. If you look at (almost) any team’s first rounders over a decade, there are plenty of misses, and especially if you look at the teams that are in consideration for Kolb. A first rounder is exciting for fans a full of potential, but in reality there are never 32 starters (let alone stars) added to the league after it is over.

by ATG. on Mar 22, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions