2011 BGN Community Mock Draft Pick #12: The Minnesota Vikings
With the twelfth pick in the 2011 BGN Mock Draft, DeSean10 selects...
Julio Jones - WR, Alabama
The Minnesota Vikings had a really tough year. As a team coming off of a deep playoff run in 2009, they seemed like a real contender last year. That great 2009 team stayed largely intact, returning a lot of good players who’d had spectacular years. To give you an idea of this team’s talent, let’s take a look at some of those players:
QB: Brett Favre had a renaissance year in 2009, playing like a man possessed for most of the year, hardly ever turning the ball over, and leading their playoff run. It looked like Favre was going to play ‘til he was 50, but if he retired the team still had the talented (if somewhat raw) Tarvaris Jackson to back him up.
RB: Adrian Peterson had some fumbling issues, but he was still arguably the top RB in the game.
WR: Sidney Rice had a breakout year, making himself a top 15 WR in the league. Percy Harvin tore it up as a rookie (when healthy), both as WR and KR. Berrian had an off year, but his history with the Bears indicated a rebound in 2010.
TE: Shiancoe was coming into his own at TE; not a single worry there.
More after the jump...
OL: Bryant McKinnie and rookie Phil Loadholt were excellent bookends for a solid o-line. Herrera and Hutchinson held down the guard positions
DL: The Williamses’seses were still a dominant duo at DT. Jared Allen and Ray Edwards were equally great at DE, which convinced FOX to create the unfortunate acronym, "Shock and AWWE."
LB: Henderson, Leber, and Greenway were a more than serviceable group.
DB: The safety spot was solid, while Antoine Winfield, Cedric Griffin, Asher Allen, and former Eagle Lito Sheppard created an above-average group at CB.
We all know what the 2010 season amounted to… So what the heck happened? Well, Favre came back, but unfortunately he came back wearing his 2008 hat and then (mercifully) got injured. He tried to fight through it (humiliating for all involved), but Favre was a big stumbling block. And to make matters worse, he sent pictures of his junk to a few women he wasn’t married to, embarrassing the team (but mostly himself). Thankfully he appears to be retired for good. Jackson? He got injured too. Joe Webb, the Vikings WR project, took over and was hot and cold as QB. QB is now a need.
Adrian Peterson had a good year, and former Stanford monster Toby Gerhart is backing him up. So RB is fine. The wideout spot, on the other hand, is in trouble. Rice missed most of the season with an injury and is likely headed to free agency. Harvin struggled with migraines and other ailments, but managed to produce nonetheless. Berrian failed to rebound. Randy Moss had a brief and excruciatingly awkward revival in purple. He was traded, and HC Chilly eventually lost his job, (supposedly) because of the whole Moss debacle. The football-playing Iglesias, Camarillo, and two former Eagles round out the WR depth in sub-par fashion. WR is now a need.
Tight end is fine, as Shiancoe is still playing well. While McKinnie’s career is in decline, the guy can still play, and Loadholt is doing just fine on the right end. Herrera missed the season with a torn ACL (yes, non-Eagles players sometimes tear their ACLs too) and also required triceps surgery, while Hutchinson also spent his season on the IR. Both are at risk of being released, and depth/youth is a must. OG is now a need.
The defensive line did great in 2010, but Ray Edwards is looking for a big payday, and is likely leaving via free agency. Pat Williams is getting older, but he’s still playing well. Everson Griffen and Brian Robison can adequately replace Edwards, but his pass-rush production will be sorely missed. In my opinion, DE is now a need.
The linebacker position may be the best position on the team, outside of RB. Greenway is an absolute monster, and the Vikings were smart to slap the franchise tag on him. Leber is probably on his way out of town, but the Hendersons and Jasper Brinkley can make up for the loss. LB is not a need.
Now on to DBs. The safety saw a few injuries (the Vikings had a rough go with that in 2010, and I think most of us can sympathize there), and even before the injuries it was a weaker position for the team. At CB, Winfield is not getting any younger, and Cedric Griffin was also injured. Asher Allen is a solid player, but CB may also be a need. In general, DB is a need.
So we can gather that QB, WR, OG, DE, and DB are all needs. Given all the info you’ve seen above, I’d say these needs can be ranked as follows:
QB
OG
DB
WR
DE
The only QBs worth a 12th overall pick are Newton and Gabbert, both of whom are already gone. Pouncey and Watkins are the only OGs I’d take in the first, but I wouldn’t take either before pick 20. There are no safeties worth a first rounder, and arguably only one who should even go in the 2nd (Rahim Moore). At CB, Peterson and Amukamara are both elite prospects, but both are gone in this draft. Jimmy Smith and Brandon Harris are possibilities, but both have their concerns. Brandon Harris has size issues and misses a lot of INTs, but he’s still a solid player. Jimmy Smith could be the best CB in this class, but he has character concerns. In my opinion, either of these players could be smart choices for the Vikes, but I think there are better players on the board at other positions of need. Also, if Griffin recovers well from his injury, the Vikings will be okay at CB for another season or two. I still don’t know how Bowers and Quinn lasted as long as they did, but with Aldon Smith, JJ Watts,Cameron Jordan, and Ryan Kerrigan, it’s still a tough choice. Robison and Griffin should be able to hold down the LE spot for now, with Pernell McPhee, Greg Romeus, and Ugo Chinasa available in the mid- to late- rounds.
For of all of the above reasons, the best pick for the Vikings is Julio Jones, the stellar wideout from Alabama. The Vikings are getting a steal here, as Julio Jones is one of the most talented players in this draft. I think Julio Jones will be a better player than AJ Green, and will probably be the best player to come out of the 2011 class. He can immediately fill in for Sidney Rice and will be an excellent weapon for whoever the Vikes decide to start at QB.
At 6’3" 220lbs, Jones is an absolute monster at the WR position. He ran a 4.34 at the combine and posted a 38.5 inch vertical – all on a broken foot, no less. He has shown great burst off the line and can use his strength and quick hands to manhandle CBs at initial contact. He’s not an amazing route runner and can be a little slow coming out of his cuts, but he makes up for it with his strength and size. Jones is an absolute beast after the catch, breaking tackles like a running back, and shows a great competitive drive as a downfield blocker. He’s a tough player and an outstanding citizen, known for his community service. His hands are suspect at times, but this is likely due to lapses in concentration rather than naturally bad hands. This is the sort of thing that can be coached up, and he’s too dynamic of a player to skip because of a few drops.
Julio Jones’ production throughout his college career is solid. As a freshman he racked up almost 60 receptions for 924 yards and 4 TDs, earning SEC Freshman of the Year and a Freshman All-American selection. He struggled with injuries his sophomore year but still managed over 40 catches, 596 yards and 4 TDs. He also came up big when he needed to, including a monster game against LSU at the end of the season. His senior year was his most productive, as he caught 78 balls and managed over 1,100 receiving yards. He’s an impact player who makes huge plays when it counts the most. The biggest concern, however, is his injury risk. He dealt with leg injuries during his sophomore year and, as previously noted, participated in the combine with a broken bone in his foot. He’s played through the injuries, but he needs to remain healthy to make a big impact in the NFL.
With the exception of the whole "outstanding citizen" thing, Jones bears a remarkable resemblance to another talented wideout that we Philly fans are familiar with – Terrell Owens. The first similarity is size, as Owens is also 6’3" and weighs 230lbs. Neither are great route runners (although Jones certainly isn’t bad) and both have questionable hands at times, but both players compensate with their strength and after-the-catch explosiveness. Jones’ best-known play was a huge touchdown on a WR screen against LSU in 2009, and TO was (in his prime) also very good on WR screens. I think Julio Jones will be Terrell Owens without the drama – the only concern is his injury history. But I think the risks are far outweighed by the rewards at the #12 pick overall.
Next on the clock will be Kowalski with the Detroit Lions.
Previous picks: 1 - Nick Fairley, 2 - Patrick Peterson, 3 - Blaine Gabbert 4 - Cam Newton 5 - Von Miller 6 -Marcell Dareus 7 - Prince Amukamara 8 - A.J. Green 9 - Da'Quan Bowers 10 - Corey Liuget 11 - Robert Quinn
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Nice pic
I think the vikings would have been the team if we could have traded Kolb. Swap first round pics and Minnesota would have come
out with a legit qb and maybe take a OG or cb with the eagles pic
by BluLion on Mar 12, 2011 6:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
With the high demand for QB's...
I think the Eagles could get much more than a 12th for Kolb and a 23rd.
by flyeaglesfly1020 on Mar 12, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Kolb is worth far more than just moving up 11 spots in the first round.
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by JimmyK on Mar 13, 2011 9:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed/
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
For all the people voting 'no'
Could I hear your reasoning on that? I’m just curious what player would have been a better pick in your eyes.
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I like this pick a lot
Julio Jones is in a 2 way tie with Anthony Costanzo for my Big Board of players that may be available to the Vikings at 12.
1. Blaine Gabbert
2. Cameron Newton
3. Prince Amukamara
4. Julio Jones/Anthony Costanzo
It’s a good pick, because with no really immanent free agency period, this gives us 3 very athletic and good receivers. Two Home run hitters in Percy and Julio and a very polished possession receiver in Sidney. Then that leaves the middle wide open for Vishanthe Shaincoe who’s a very good catching TE and when you get the pass game going, its nearly impossible to stop the run game and that’s not taking into account that the run game consists of the Best Running Back in the NFL.
Solid Pick
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your entire rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Mar 12, 2011 6:50 PM EST reply actions
You just screwed whoever has the Rams. Good pick though since Sidney Rice is a free agent. Jones was far and away the best player on the board. You could make an argument for a defensive lineman like Cameron Jordan, Aldon Smith or Ryan Kerrigan but they’re not nearly as good as Julio is .
And their defensive backs are terrible outside of Antoine Winfield.
Also have you watched the Vikings lately? Bryant McKinnie is bad and Loadholt is a penalty machine. Steve Hutchinson is on rapid decline and the Vikings could really use an upgrade at RG and C. Pat Williams is on a steep, steep decline. Jared Allen and Ray Edwards are hardly equal. Everson Griffen has done absolutely nothing in his NFL career thus far aside from getting arrested and Brian Robison is a free agent and no where near as talented as Ray Edwards. At linebacker I’m not really sure what you see in Jasper Brinkley or Erin Henderson. Brinkley is a one dimensional run stopper who can’t defend the pass to save his life and Henderson has been a special teams player who has massive knee issues.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
Y'know d-jack
I really respect your opinions and I think you’re by far the most knowledgable commenter here outside of the front-page writers. But every single comment you write is condescending. No, I have not watched a lot of Vikings football, but I said that O-line is their second biggest need so I’m obviously not disregarding those problems. I even mentioned specifics, such as McKinnie’s decline as well as Herrera’s injury concerns and Hutchinson’s decline. As for DE, I never said that Edwards’ production was the same as Allen’s — you misunderstood my use of “equally great,” (meaning equal to the job done by the DTs, not equal to each other). i know that Evrson Griffen has done nothing yet, and I’m also aware that he was an incredibly over-hyped prospect who plummeted down the boards last year. That doesn’t mean there’s no chance that he can play 8-15 plays a game and be a decent fill-in. Robison is not a free agent, he re-signed with the Vikings last Thursday, and while I’m well aware that he’s no Edwards, there’s no reason to believe he can’t be their starter if needed. As far as DT concerns, the fact that Pat Williams is flat-out refusing to re-sign with Minnesota is probably a bigger issue than his declining play. My phrasing of “making up for the loss” when talking about LBs was poor, I meant that Brinkley could fill in as a starter, not make up for his production. Henderson is okay depth. And yes, I know about his knee injuries and I know about Brinkley’s weakness at defending the pass, but that doesn’t mean he can’t fill in if needed.
The point I was making was not that the Vikings are all set with the team they have now, I was saying that the only player that made sense at the 12 spot was Jones, because he was the best player to fill a need, rather than a lesser player filling the biggest need. I really do appreciate your input, d-jack, but if you toned down the condecension I think people would be practically deifying you here. You know your shit, but you tend to be overtly negative and critical of others when you could probably let some things slide.
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I’m not being condescending at all actually. You people just read my comments that way for some reason. I can’t really figure out why. Maybe I’m being too direct? Maybe I don’t toss in enough LOLs, HAHAs or jokes? Maybe its because I don’t really ever say “I think” or “In my opinion”? That wasn’t meant to demean you in any way, I just read through your little write up and wrote down things I thought, that’s all. Quite frankly I’m sick of apologizing for people reading my comments in a ‘condescending’ tone because it really isn’t written that way at all.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
Well if everyone is reading it the same way then maybe its not everyone else, its you. Just because you don’t mean it that way doesn’t mean its not true. Tom Cruise doesn’t try to be a douche, he just is. Maybe its the same for your comments. I’m not saying you should apologize, I’m just saying that you’d get less annoyed responses if you toned it down.
Here’s where I’m getting “condescending” from:
have you watched the Vikings lately?
And then the fact that every sentence thereafter was telling me how I was wrong. Most people find that condescending. You said it yourself, its not just me who feels that way.
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I like the pick too, I don’t think D-Jackfan is condescending overall, he is tough to respond back to sometimes, and I should know…
Missanelli: "Is he (Reid) on the clock this year, and if doesn't win it, will you have a different viewpoint on him ?"
Banner: "I can't give you a direct answer to that question, as much as I (would) like."
by Eagladelphia on Mar 12, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
I should know…
Haha, true. My attitude towards you was the entire reason I got this whole “you’re too harsh” thing going for me.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
I know, you should hire me as your PR guy to rebuild your image… :)
Do you take back everything you said to me now ? lol
Missanelli: "Is he (Reid) on the clock this year, and if doesn't win it, will you have a different viewpoint on him ?"
Banner: "I can't give you a direct answer to that question, as much as I (would) like."
by Eagladelphia on Mar 12, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
It's not the entire reason
And DeSean10 is right, if everyone is noticing something about you, the chances are it’s you.
Think of it as a chance to get feedback and improve now, in a way that doesn’t really matter. You’re in college right? That’s time to hopefully work on some of this kind of stuff. Imagine if you came off to a boss, or client, or employee of yours this way on a regular basis. It wouldn’t go over very well. Now’s the perfect time to become more self aware.
Oh, and by the way,
I love your contributions on here. I always look to see what you have to say on both current and prospective players.
Great feedback
D-Jack, he’s got a good point man. It doesn’t mean we don’t like the info and energy that you bring. I had to change my style too, I was taking everything too personally before, now my perspective is totally different after a couple emails back and forth with JasonB while I was in exile. So I gotta give credit to JasonB for that.
Missanelli: "Is he (Reid) on the clock this year, and if doesn't win it, will you have a different viewpoint on him ?"
Banner: "I can't give you a direct answer to that question, as much as I (would) like."
by Eagladelphia on Mar 14, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a good pick
Because he is the best available and the vikes have a butt load of holes to fill.
I just hope jones is use to catching crappy throws. He will get a lot of those from Webb.
by Saidrick on Mar 12, 2011 7:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Damn you DeSean10
First of all Julio Jones was my pick for St Louis and now thats all gone to hell. Having said that, I hate this pick regardless. You have nobody at QB, an aging offensive line, one good aging corner in a awful secondary and you draft a wideout. I get that you do want to draft the best player available but you have 3 outstanding pro bowl caliber WR’s with a lot of other holes and no one to throw them the ball. Ryan Mallet wouldn’t of been bad here. Forget all the off the field BS beacause it’s exactly that. He has the best arm in the draft and will be outstanding. Nate Solder would of been a better choice too.
by MidwesternEaglesfan on Mar 12, 2011 7:42 PM EST reply actions
Here’s the problem: Mallett sucks. He doesn’t perform in big games and he’s slower than MJG smoking weed. He has a big arm, but that’s about it. There are no DBs worth a 15th or higher pick left. And I’m not touching Locker, Ponder, or any other remaining QB with a top 25 pick. Castonzo, Solder, and Tyron Smith would all be reaches here. You don’t reach when you only have one position that’s not a need (RB).
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Other QB's who were slow and
didnt’ perform well in college in the big games: Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Brady never won a big game at Michigan and Peyton got smoked in the Orange Bowl againist Nebraska. Fast Quarterback are like good hitting pitchers. It’s a nice thing to have but in big games it really doesn’t matter. Pitchers gotta hit their spots well and get out of jams and in the playoffs, fast quarterbacks are contained in the pocket.
by MidwesternEaglesfan on Mar 12, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
And the St Louis Rams are throwing up right now for not trading up ...
by One.Cool.Customer on Mar 12, 2011 7:46 PM EST reply actions
Agree 100%
Julio Jones is their guy, they need a deep threat more then anyone else needs anything right now besides the Cards needing a QB. Julio Jones is perfect for them and If I was their GM I would trade up a few picks to make sure the get their guy. Probably trade with WASH.
by MidwesternEaglesfan on Mar 12, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Jones may be the Rams’ dream pick, but I doubt he’ll be there by then. I think he’ll end up going to the Bengals, Arizona, Cleveland, or Washington come draft time. He’s an incredible talent. Like you said, they may want to trade up.
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I agree completely
Washington seems like the perfect trading spot if Jones is still there.
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.
by Mr.electric10 on Mar 13, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Good pick
I think that Julio Jones is the player most worthy of the number 12 selection.
Good job with the write up too, props for putting a lot of effort into it.
You had the best write-up so far
I like how you broke it down; I just don’t agree with your pick, although I wouldn’t be surprised, if available, the Vikings picked him in RL.
I think OL, DL QB & Secondary are more serious problems as of current. Do the Vikings really need another big name WR? My gut tells me no.
"This is one of the top 10 biggest bonehead trades in the history of the NFL."
-Redskins TE Chris Cooley
Well you have to keep in mind that Sidney Rice is about a 50/50 shot of re-signing, and with that QB situation do you really think he will? Then you’ve got Percy Harvin and his migraine/other injury issues, and then you’ve got Bernard Berrian who hasn’t been good since he was a Bear. Would you really be comfortable with that group?
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This
I agree with you 100%. Who knows how long free agency will last, if it happens at all. Teams need to plug as many holes in the draft as possible. I wonder if that puts Jimmy Smith about OT on the Eagle’s big board.
Fly Eagles Fly, on the road to Vicktory!
by KeepSwinging on Mar 13, 2011 1:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
nope
I agree that J Jones is a surefire WR pick, I just feel they can’t go wrong if they choose to address another weakness…
"This is one of the top 10 biggest bonehead trades in the history of the NFL."
-Redskins TE Chris Cooley
by Ralf E Chubbs on Mar 13, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Good pick
This is one of the toughest picks in my opinion to date. Their are no OL that are worthy of a top 12 pick. The same issue with the QB position while Mallet wouldnt be awful I dont think he is top 12 material. I think the Viks go BPA here and thats exacty what Jones is. Good pick at a tough spot
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Excellent......
I get my first choice pick :D
my opinion
if i were the vikings and i had the 12th pick in real life i wouldnt draft jones…..since this is a mock draft and you cant trade your pick and move back then jones is who i would have taken….however i think on draft day the vikings should move back once or twice….maybe swap with the rams and grab a 5th rounder and then maybe trade the 14th pick back to the late teens early 20’s and pick up a couple of third rounders or a third and fourth….then draft someone like solder tyron smith jimmy smith or someone that fills a better need while grabbing some extra picks in the middle rounds to help depth at other positions like secondary and whatever they didnt draft with their first……overall i think i would have drafted julio jones on the basis that there is no o lineman or corner or safety worthy of the 12th overall pick
My personal opinion is that Julio Jones will end up busting in the NFL. I just don’t see what’s special. I’ve watched Alabama play a few times, and I just never got the hype.
No disrespect to the pick, obviously; I’m just ragging on the player.
DTMWTD
I freakin’ love Julio Jones, the dude is so beast. I’ve like him over AJ Green since their freshman years.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
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